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User Topic: liking the ones who poof, etc.
Why??
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Concerned  Posted: 12:53 PM, July 18th (Wednesday), 2012View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

while not having chemistry with the ones who call and e-mail and like us

Just wondering if I am the only one running into this. I never dealt with this during pre-marriage dating. I don't know if it's the not knowing what happened that keeps me thinking about them but for some reason I have chemistry with the ones who poof. Probably should broach this in IC...

Leaving soon on vacation - yay!!

Anyone having this come up?


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Default  Posted: 12:56 PM, July 18th (Wednesday), 2012View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

IDK if it's the same, but I have the problem of always wanting the one that I know I can't have.

Sounds so high school, and I hate it... but I have found myself in that position yet again...


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Default  Posted: 12:59 PM, July 18th (Wednesday), 2012View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I've had times like that, where I felt like the guys I liked didn't like me, and the guys that liked me I didn't really like as much.

I think it's just one of those things, and you have to slog through it until everything falls into place.


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Default  Posted: 1:03 PM, July 18th (Wednesday), 2012View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

The issue for me was that my picker was wrong. I thought that I had chemistry with certain people but it was based off of my broken picker and I would let people slip away that I my have actually had good chemistry with because I was telling myself they weren't right.

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Default  Posted: 1:03 PM, July 18th (Wednesday), 2012View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Do you really feel ready for a relationship? Sometimes the poofers and the emotionally unavailable types are more appealing when you aren’t quite ready for a relationship or don’t value yourself as highly as you should.

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Default  Posted: 1:09 PM, July 18th (Wednesday), 2012View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I have found that I've been drawn to emotionally or physically unavailable people. In my case, its a self-protective measure to keep myself from getting hurt.

I have recognized this, and am trying to correct this flaw in my picker. But I am still so afraid of future emotional devastation.


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Default  Posted: 1:14 PM, July 18th (Wednesday), 2012View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

many "poofers" are really good at telling you what you want to hear, making you feel really great, establishing what feels like a connection...and then poofing. it's manipulative and it works, especially when you are vulnerable.


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Default  Posted: 1:47 PM, July 18th (Wednesday), 2012View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

It's also easy to blow up the "unavailable" in our minds as something they're not. They can become a proxy for a fantasy that isn't really about them.


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Default  Posted: 4:23 PM, July 18th (Wednesday), 2012View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I've found with women that there's something about them (maybe men, too) that turns them on when they perceive that we're not into them. Chemistry is rather easy to create when you don't give a damn about the person's feelings, too.


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Default  Posted: 4:29 PM, July 18th (Wednesday), 2012View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

from http://www.selfgrowth.com/articles/Wallin22.html


Why we want what we can't have:
1. Heightened attention: When something is hard to get (or forbidden) you immediately pay more attention to it. Notice that when you are on a restricted diet, you sometimes get too focused on what you “can’t” eat. This heightened attention -- which can escalate into obsession -- makes the forbidden food seem very important. Your inner brat takes advantage of this, and tries to convince you that you MUST have that chocolate or pizza.

2. Perceived scarcity: When something is scarce or in short supply, its perceived value increases. You want it more because you think other people also want it. If you’ve ever bid at auctions or on eBay, you know the experience of that last-minute excitement as you watch the bids spiral upward. The more people who bid, the more you’re willing to pay for the item. Your inner brat wants it at any price.

3. “Psychological Reactance”: People don’t like to be told they can’t have or can’t do something. It’s related to not wanting to be controlled by others, especially if the situation feels unfair or arbitrary. The “reactance” is both emotional and behavioral.

The emotional part is your inner brat saying, “Oh yeah? I can’t have what I want? Just try and stop me!”

The behavioral component is what you do about it, which usually involves some type of rebellious reaction. You see this with teenagers whose parents have forbidden them to date certain people. Reactance also explains why a “Wet Paint” sign always invites unwanted fingerprints on the newly painted surface.

Next time you don’t get what you want, ask yourself whether one of the above factors has influenced your desire. If so, let go of the pursuit. Your inner brat won’t be happy, but ultimately (in the words of the Rolling Stones,) you “might just find [that] you get what you need.”


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Default  Posted: 5:26 PM, July 18th (Wednesday), 2012View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

My friends all keep telling me it's a numbers game and I have to keep dating and eventually one of the ones I like will like me.

I've totally had this happen more than once:

telling you what you want to hear, making you feel really great, establishing what feels like a connection...and then poofing

This likely is what is happening with my last poofer:

It's also easy to blow up the "unavailable" in our minds as something they're not. They can become a proxy for a fantasy that isn't really about them.

So nice to have a place to come and talk about these issues Thanks!!

Au revoir for 2 weeks

[This message edited by Why?? at 5:27 PM, July 18th (Wednesday)]


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Default  Posted: 6:03 PM, July 18th (Wednesday), 2012View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Maybe you'll go meet a beautiful parisian man and never come home.

*sigh*

Are you sure I won't fit in your suitcase?


"No girl who plays the role of the hero dates a guy who uses her. She knows who she is; she just forgot for a little while." -my awesome pastor | I edit to correct my iPad's "corrections"

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Default  Posted: 8:42 PM, July 18th (Wednesday), 2012View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

telling you what you want to hear, making you feel really great, establishing what feels like a connection...and then poofing

Oh yeah, Why??, I am thinking this is the reality of the dating world these days.

I think some people (girls and guys), based on insecurities or other issues, like to prove to themselves they are desirable and needed. One they have that confirmation, they can *poof*. They got what they needed emotionally: confirmation that they are desired.

For others It's the hunt itself, not the relationship that is exciting to them. That's why books like "Why Men Love Bitches" tell woman to play hard to get for as long as they can. Some guys love the challenge of conquering the unconquerable. It's the way some men are wired.

Personally, I am sick of these "games" even though some of these guys don't even know they are playing them. I am taking a dating break for a few months. It takes thick skin to date, and a lot of patience.


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Default  Posted: 7:50 AM, July 19th (Thursday), 2012View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I know, Ama...that would be awesome A girl can dream anyway

Yeah, HUM, I've read that book. Funny thing is with this last poofer in the beginning I wasn't too into him and then once I was he lost interest. Also tired of the games!


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Default  Posted: 8:14 AM, July 19th (Thursday), 2012View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

in the beginning I wasn't too into him and then once I was he lost interest. Also tired of the games!

Gently here, but to some extent, this is your own brain playing games, not just the guy.


"No girl who plays the role of the hero dates a guy who uses her. She knows who she is; she just forgot for a little while." -my awesome pastor | I edit to correct my iPad's "corrections"

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Why??
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Default  Posted: 8:28 AM, July 19th (Thursday), 2012View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I guess what I was meaning to say was that the physical chemistry took awhile for me to grow. Oh, well...outta the US dating pool for bit

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