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What an OM wrote about targeting Married Women...Graphic

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 floridaredman (original poster member #15122) posted at 7:32 PM on Monday, September 17th, 2012

WARNING!!

BH's..please be warned that this can cause real triggering if you read this.

Think twice before you read this. It is the true confession of an OM and how he targeted married women at work...

My perspective- as a serial cheat. Before I start, I'm no GQ model look alike and I'm not wealthy.

For me, it was always about extra sex. The thrill of the chase and ego boost was a plus, but I just wanted more sex than my wife did. I always loved my wife and certainly never ever wanted to leave her or lose her. Especially not over someone else's wayward wife.

I had a simple method. I used it because it worked. I targeted married women. I figured they were safer for several important reasons.

1- Less likely to be sleeping around with random guys (STDs).

2- Less likely to pull the crazy girlfriend BS and call my wife.

3- In case of an unwanted pregnancy, I had a built in schmuck to pay the tab and would have claimed to have had a vasectomy.

The most important part of being a player is to hide it. I started with shy looks making certain I'd get caught and then doing my best to look embarrassed. If she started to come around more or dress sexier then I'd try a safe compliment. If she called me on my BS (yes, it happened) I simply acted highly offended. After all, I'm a married family man. That usually got me an apology. A few really smart ones just avoided me altogether.

If she accepted the compliment, I knew I had a chance. I never ever wasted time with someone that I didn't want to bed. If the compliment was successful, I simply followed with more as time permitted and just let things develop. Who knew where it would go? When she would speak with me about her frustrations with her husband (they always complained about their husband) I used that to my advantage. If they complained that he didn't do enough with the kids, I was dad of the year. If he didn't help out around the house, I did everything at home so my wife didn't have to. Yes, it was complete BS, but so what. My job was to make them feel special, pretty and needed and to paint the fantasy. After all, my goal was not conversation or friendship. I wanted to score.

Once things progressed and I had to keep it intense unless it was simply a once and done kind of thing. I would do that by pushing her boundaries for sex. Anal, public hook-up whatever. Keep in mind, I'm in it for the sex so I tried for everything I liked and heard more than once statements like... I never even let my husband do that. That was usually with anal, but sometimes public hook-ups also.

I certainly didn't want to be paying for hotel rooms out my pocket. If she wanted to pay, that was fine. Otherwise, we could hook-up anywhere, it didn't matter to me.

I always advised them to keep the secret between us, because it was so special. Actually, I didn't want to get busted. If they got busted, and some did. That was their tough crap to deal with. I certainly never vowed to love/honor/cherish them.

As I look back, I'm stunned at how easy it was and how many fell for my crap. I had some that would try to pull away and I'd feed them the star crossed lovers BS, you know... kept apart by the cruel hand of fate. That worked like magic to seal the deal. I also used things like I think my wife may have cheated on me. Then I'd work in how I got tested for STDs and it was clear and somehow manage to mention my vasectomy (never had one). Understand? I'm safe, you won't catch anything if you sleep with me and I won't get you pregnant. That was the message.

The one thing that sent me running was the fear of getting caught and sometimes I just wanted a quick bang and wasn't in it for a couple of months of an affair. I'm still also amazed by how many didn't see through my crap either. They didn't have to deal with the day to day stresses that adults face with me (finances, mortgages, car payments, child care, time commitments, etc.). With me, it was just fun and sex. The poor bastard at home didn't have a chance once the play was in motion. It also helped me to see him as a douche-bag when his wife whined about him for whatever reason.

I work with a woman that has lost everything over an affair with me. The house, husband, family, etc. It's difficult to see. She hates me now, but I never vowed anything to her or forced her to do anything. That's her tough crap. Her kids are in therapy, their grades tanked and she's struggling financially and the kids blame her, etc. Honestly, I wish she'd quit so I didn't have to see her every freaking day.

I do know a few like me that I consider even worse. They brag and laugh about getting wayward wives to do things and try to get email or text proof to show off. It's pretty easy, just tell her how much he liked doing X with her last night and let her respond. Then they had proof to brag about and trade notes. I didn't do that. I just wanted the sex and avoided the women they talked about. I liked to find the ones who would seem to be the last to ever do anything like this. Goes back to my 3 reasons.

I never flirted with a married woman unless I wanted in her pants. Plain and simple, you do have to hide it so they don't see it coming, but it's really that basic. Other players use different methods, but we all use what works and modify sometimes if we're not progressing to try a different angle. Not all women are the same, and sometimes deviations are required if she'll let you in her pants.

It was never about love, just sex. I sold the fantasy, yes. But that is all it ever was. A fair trade. They were adults and quite frankly should have known better. Am I a predator, I certainly never thought so and I certainly never thought about what would happen to them when we were done. Yes, all my affairs ended. Most stayed married to their H they *****ed about and screwed around on. Therefore, he must not have been that bad. People just get caught up with unrealistic expectations on life I think. For goodness sake, Prince charming is only charming because he wants a blow job.

Before I close, I'll say this as well. An engaged woman would have worked for me also, but I never found one that would go for me. Also, newly married women are much harder to get. I had the best luck with women who had been married for at least several years, throw a kid or two in the mix and they were usually more susceptible to being chased.

It was a fair trade. Attention and compliments for sex.

[This message edited by floridaredman at 1:32 PM, September 17th (Monday)]

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ThoughtIKnewYa ( member #18449) posted at 7:41 PM on Monday, September 17th, 2012

Wow. So despicable.

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Brandon808 ( member #35619) posted at 7:47 PM on Monday, September 17th, 2012

This should be required reading.

They didn't have to deal with the day to day stresses that adults face with me (finances, mortgages, car payments, child care, time commitments, etc.).

^^^This...I'll never understand how the WW (or WH for that matter) cannot see this and think the A is a real relationship.

They were adults and quite frankly should have known better.

^^^This too

How many times has a WS prolonged coming out of the fog because they refuse to accept the truth about their AP? That they were just being used?

p.s. Not triggery for me but my situation was different. I didn't have d-bag like this to contend with.

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She-Ra ( member #36033) posted at 7:49 PM on Monday, September 17th, 2012

This guy sounds almost like the 2 douchebags I met and fucked around with from Ashley Madison... Only they didn't want to charm married women out in the real world, they wanted an easier route and willing to pay AM.

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nooneeverthought ( member #20157) posted at 7:54 PM on Monday, September 17th, 2012

Especially not over someone else's wayward wife

Ouch...I am not a WW but wow...Reel them in and throw them away...

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h0peless ( member #36697) posted at 8:04 PM on Monday, September 17th, 2012

Definitely triggering me right now. Ugh, I should have heeded the warning. Oh well, live and learn.

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whatnow999 ( member #35494) posted at 8:11 PM on Monday, September 17th, 2012

What an interesting read. I think yes, this OM is a douchebag. Without a doubt. But none of this happens if the married person says NO. So it has to still be predominantly on the WW.

I always loved my wife and certainly never ever wanted to leave her or lose her. Especially not over someone else's wayward wife.

I think this is the difference between some WS and others. Personally, I never for a second considered replacing my wife with an OW. Most of my OW were not married but they weren't anywhere near the type of woman my wife is. Perhaps its a gender thing?

Not saying this type of WS is better or worse. There is nothing accidental about a WS like this where as a WS who falls in love with the AP didn't plan it out (usually). All different type of bad.

The other thing is it is so easy to demonize the AP. But it is all on the WW. All of it. Regardless of how aggressive he was, the WW still chose to risk it all. Still chose to give the AP what she wouldn't give her BH (specific sex acts). I would blame everything on the WW in an affair like this. The AP is not special. The AP owes nothing.

I think this is up there with a thread in Reconciliation about a specific BH cases with blaming the AP too much. Its always on the WS.

[This message edited by whatnow999 at 2:14 PM, September 17th (Monday)]

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JanaGreen ( member #29341) posted at 8:17 PM on Monday, September 17th, 2012

Wow. Just . . . . wow.

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MissesJai ( member #24849) posted at 8:18 PM on Monday, September 17th, 2012

WOW honestly, not that surprising. I worked with a douchebag like this. His primary targets were almost always married women or women in committed relationships. Now, I know why...ugh...

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Exit Wounds ( member #32811) posted at 8:28 PM on Monday, September 17th, 2012

HELL has an opening just for him...

Exit WoundsH of 17 years got gf pregnant, left our kids 9 & 11 and we never saw him again. -His choice.

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BaxtersBFF ( member #26859) posted at 8:29 PM on Monday, September 17th, 2012

whatnow, I really don't understand how you could come to that conclusion.

The OM writing this out is also M, and has blamed his own BW for not getting enough sex at home, so he has become a predator.

Are the WW's he's talking about innocent? No. Is this all on them? No.

This "tell-all-extravaganza" is some fucked up guy who can't take responsibility for his own problems and has come up with a "logical", unremorseful explanation for why he does what he does. This guy is sick, and not in a way that would illicit pity from me.

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tryingagain74 ( member #33698) posted at 8:32 PM on Monday, September 17th, 2012

He's disgusting. I wish I could hack into sites like Ashley Madison and post this on their opening pages. Why any of them think that this is about true love is beyond me. And the whole star-crossed lovers bit... well folks, Romeo and Juliet both DIE at the end!

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whatnow999 ( member #35494) posted at 8:45 PM on Monday, September 17th, 2012

whatnow, I really don't understand how you could come to that conclusion.

The OM writing this out is also M, and has blamed his own BW for not getting enough sex at home, so he has become a predator.

Are the WW's he's talking about innocent? No. Is this all on them? No.

This "tell-all-extravaganza" is some fucked up guy who can't take responsibility for his own problems and has come up with a "logical", unremorseful explanation for why he does what he does. This guy is sick, and not in a way that would illicit pity from me.

The OM gave his reason for cheating. Lack of sex in his marriage. Its debatable if that is a valid reason or not. Not taking a position on that.

I don't feel sorry for him. I don't feel sorry for anyone in that entire story.

The wife is the one with the duty to not give in to a complement. The wife is the one who chose time and time again to engage in an affair.

A lot of these threads seem to villainize the male AP and victimize the female WW. I disagree with that a lot. The WW chose. It just speaks worse of her that she fell for a douchebag of such epic proportions. My issue is more with the coddling of WW's that this story invites.

And I do understand how he is thinking. More than I honestly would like to admit. I don't want to make this about me because its not. That said...

I've never gone after older married women at any point in my life. But I was in an affair with a MOW when I was younger. I could do nothing wrong to her. Is it my fault that she was in an affair? With the MOW all I would do was smile at her and gave her a couple minor complements and off we were. Am I to blame or was she for throwing away her marriage for a look?

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Mrs Panda ( member #27303) posted at 8:45 PM on Monday, September 17th, 2012

I feel very sorry for his BW. He sounds sociopathic.

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sportsfan ( member #9918) posted at 8:55 PM on Monday, September 17th, 2012

A nieghbor of mine could've written that. He's a self-centered, egotistical, narcissistic, lying prick whom nobody trusts ... nobody calls to play golf with ... noone gives a shit about him. Everything is about him ... while smiling at you he is thinking about your wife ... or your daughter. I bet the author's wife turns a blind eye ... I'm quite certain my neighbor's wife does.

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Lovedyoumore ( member #35593) posted at 8:55 PM on Monday, September 17th, 2012

Going to post as a BS, but no vent, just observation:

This sounds just the play plan the OW used in our case, so it is not gender specific.

Did you see where he said that the

WS could turn him down at any point and he would walk? Even after the compliment stage? If they were not

interested he would move on? Without pressure or pursuit at that point? That is where our WS are culpable. They did not say whoa, at any point.

Either way, all it usually takes is a "no" and they move on to an easier target.

[This message edited by Lovedyoumore at 3:17 PM, September 17th (Monday)]

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Loyalty2Liberty ( member #36714) posted at 8:57 PM on Monday, September 17th, 2012

Interesting.

He streight up calls himself a predator.

He says there are others "he would consider worse" rather than firmly saying others are worse and maybe emphasizing with superlatives.

He overall speaks quite candidly, displays a curious level of self awareness, and makes little effort to come off as a victim or a saint (though he blameshifts well enough).

Where did you get this, floridaredman?

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Jrazz ( member #31349) posted at 9:11 PM on Monday, September 17th, 2012

Posting as a member.

The OM gave his reason for cheating. Lack of sex in his marriage. Its debatable if that is a valid reason or not.

I'm struggling with this. I think that lack of sex in a marriage may be cause for someone to ask for a divorce if they have no other solution available, but a valid reason to cheat? There's NO valid reason to cheat. Is it ok to steal if you're low on funds? Deception, betrayal, these are the issues at hand here. There's nothing valid about breaking a promise you made to someone. IMHO.

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JanaGreen ( member #29341) posted at 9:15 PM on Monday, September 17th, 2012

A nieghbor of mine could've written that. He's a self-centered, egotistical, narcissistic, lying prick whom nobody trusts ... nobody calls to play golf with ... noone gives a shit about him. Everything is about him ... while smiling at you he is thinking about your wife ... or your daughter. I bet the author's wife turns a blind eye ... I'm quite certain my neighbor's wife does.

POS.

Do we live in the same neighborhood?

Although my neighbor's wife did finally get fed up after he fucked her friend. But it took a while.

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stronger08 ( member #16953) posted at 9:29 PM on Monday, September 17th, 2012

This is the same asshole who my XWW fell in love with. Shit Ive been posting about this dude for years now. They are all the same. If you ever read my posts about OM it was this guy to a T. Everyone saw it. Except perhaps my XWW as she was in love. I also liked the parts about her paying for hotels and the subsequent life falling apart. My XWW also fell directly into those traps as well. This dude is not unique. He is most of the OM out there. All you need is to listen well and have a good line of shit. There is a special place in hell for dudes like him. Im sure of that. He is gloating now. But life will catch up to his ass sooner or later. Ladies I want to apologize for all of mankind because of the few rotten apples like him. But he is the exception not the rule. What he needs is 5 minutes alone in a room with all the BH he created.

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