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User Topic: Jodie Arias Trial
Dark Inertia
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Default  Posted: 11:18 PM, May 6th (Monday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Sister, I love Wild! He is so amusing.

I am also getting nervous about the deliberation. I checked my phone every so often, not a thing.

Sitting on the edge of my seat, biting my nails. If she doesn't get M1 I would be so sick. Trying to have faith in our jury.

[This message edited by Dark Inertia at 11:18 PM, May 6th (Monday)]


"If I listened earlier, I wouldn't be here. But that's just the trouble with me. I give myself very good advice, but I very seldom follow it."

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sadtoo
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Default  Posted: 11:41 PM, May 6th (Monday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I heard that they left today at 4:30 and they are not coming back until 10:00 tomorrow. Normally they would start at 9:00. Someone said that may indicate a verdict. They have a decisision, decided to sleep on it, come back in the morning, make sure nobody has any second thoughts, and then announce.

Hopefully they were just hung up on the 1st degree or felony murder.

...but it does beg to question, why did he have sex with her and take "naughty pics" after she arrived at his home unannounced)
.

You know....we have to remember where TA came from. He was "damaged" from his childhood. Friends of his said that he always saw the good in everyone. Even JA. When his friends tried to warn him about her, he refused to believe them.

I think he may have been "addicted" to JA and the sex. I also think when JA says things like, "It was hard to tell Travis no." Like most psychopaths, the opposite is actually the truth. He probably did have a hard time refusing her.

Why they took the photos, I don't have a clue.

But I do think she was there trying to either get him back, to forgive her for "the worst betrayal" or to take her to Cancun. And it obviously didn't work.


It is what it is, not what we hope it can be.

When another woman takes your husband,
sometimes the best thing you can do for
yourself is to LET HER HAVE the worthless
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lynnm1947
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Default  Posted: 8:27 AM, May 7th (Tuesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I'm not at ease with the deliberation time. That can't be a good thing, can it? If they all voited for guilty, it wouldn't take this amount of time, surely.


Age: 64..ummmmmmm, no...............65....no...oh, hell born in 1947. You figure it out!

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lynnm1947
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Default  Posted: 9:42 AM, May 7th (Tuesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I BET THEY REALLY HAVE REACHED A VERDICT.If they are coming back in at 10 local time instead of 9, that gives the family the one-hour required notice!

[This message edited by lynnm1947 at 9:44 AM, May 7th (Tuesday)]


Age: 64..ummmmmmm, no...............65....no...oh, hell born in 1947. You figure it out!

"I could have missed the pain, but I would have had to miss the dance." Garth Brooks


Posts: 6926 | Registered: Jul 2007 | From: Toronto, Canada
JanetS
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Default  Posted: 10:32 AM, May 7th (Tuesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I'm waiting anxiously.

Even though I questioned his taking pictures and having sex right before the murder, I certainly, without any hesitation, feel she is 100% guilty of pre-meditated murder.

I do hope that the 10am start time today is indicative of "something"... ie a guilty Murder One) determination.

I do think if they were going to lower it to "manslaughter" (which would be awful), I think there would be enough arguing the details in the jury room that one day would not be enough time.

So, with fingers crossed and baited breath, I await a result which will have TS's family and friends satisfied that justice was done.

Any result that allows her to walk out of jail, at ANY point in her life, to me, is not appropriate.

[This message edited by JanetS at 10:47 AM, May 7th (Tuesday)]


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Default  Posted: 11:04 AM, May 7th (Tuesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

"I'm not at ease with the deliberation time. That can't be a good thing, can it? If they all voited for guilty, it wouldn't take this amount of time, surely."

It might take this long. When the foreperson was chosen it might have been their plan to take an initial vote. They all have to be unanimous on the count to charge them on. They do not have to be unanimous on which of the three theories under Murder 1 they vote under (so that part is good).

But maybe they felt they should go over each of the counts, carefully and fully, to make sure that each juror is voting with a clear understanding of each count (it is kind of complicated...so they have 21 pages of information to understand).

It's best they are conscientious, take whatever time it is to concur that every juror understands thier vote....reducing the chances of an appeal.

Correct me if I am wrong....I heard once (not related to this trial) that every death sentence gets an automatic appeal. ?????

Maybe I misunderstood, and that every death penalty imposed gets the "right to request an appeal"???


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JanetS
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Default  Posted: 11:32 AM, May 7th (Tuesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Hmmm. Apparently arriving at the door is a "jury mitigator" (I think that is what she was called).

Her role would be to work with the jury guiding them ... I think? CNN said they'd guide them through the specifics of the penalty parts of the Murder One options???

I may not have understood. Whatever, it was taken as a thought that MAYBE they are ready or almost ready!!!

But everybody, including the media, is still just guessing.


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Default  Posted: 1:07 PM, May 7th (Tuesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Everytime i try to see this trial, i get an error or static.

Does anyone have a link they can pass me to watch this?


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sadtoo
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Default  Posted: 4:58 PM, May 7th (Tuesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

OMG!! What are they doing?????


It is what it is, not what we hope it can be.

When another woman takes your husband,
sometimes the best thing you can do for
yourself is to LET HER HAVE the worthless
bum.
OC born 2001
Divorced 2003
Remarried 2008 (New Guy)


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starrysky
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Default  Posted: 7:07 PM, May 7th (Tuesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Good lord, I'm getting nervous now. Another day down & no verdict I keep trying to tell myself they have something like 600 exhibits to go through, maybe they want to review their notes, maybe they just want Jodi to wait like how she made them wait all this time but I really am starting to freak a bit now. She won't be acquitted, at least I don't think so, but I'm TERRIFIED of a hung jury or manslaughter. If I've read the law correctly, if she receives manslaughter, depending on the sentence, she could be FREE on time served. Jesus.

While I loathe Casey Anthony to the depths of my soul (& I DO!), I'm not 100% sure she'll kill again (assuming she never has another kid), Jodi? I really, really think she'll kill again and absolutely CANNOT be on the streets again. I need a drink.


"The grass is not greener on the other side, it's greener where you water it"

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Default  Posted: 7:48 PM, May 7th (Tuesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I want the death penalty but its so easy for these monsters to sit there for x amount of yrs until the needle.

I rather they spend the rest of their lives in prison being told when to wash, eat, sleep and when they can go outside.

Add to the fact the fear of never knowing if tomorrow they get shived for being an monster that even other monsters don't like.


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Default  Posted: 8:03 PM, May 7th (Tuesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

In such a serious trial, you never know what the jury is doing.

I've seen juries take 3 days for a misdemeanor and then perhaps an hour for non-capital first-degree murder.

There's no use in speculating. It just drives us crazy.

We will know soon enough. I hope it's guilty of capital murder.


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JanetS
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Default  Posted: 9:33 PM, May 7th (Tuesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

One of the journalists who was sitting on the fifth floor (near the jury room....I guess a few are allowed there???). Anyway she is on HLN, and she said that when one of the woman jurors came out (for a quick break) she was walking as if she was really angry. If one is to take this to a possible conclusion it looks like there are differences of opinion in the jury. It's all speculation of course, and we have so little to go on. Yet, I'd have been so pleased had they come to a verdict today. It would not have been considered "too short" a time for deliberation, but it sure would help a lot of us rest. I agree with starrysky, I do believe that she could murder again. Her borderline personality disorder is being fed by this trial, and if she gets off easy it would just prove to her how smart she is...that she could get away with it. She could very possibly feel that she could get away with it again (if she could find a man crazy enough to date her).

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Default  Posted: 10:59 PM, May 7th (Tuesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

The problem I have with life in prison without parole, in Jodi's case, is she will THRIVE in that environment. She already has groupies where she is now, she's manipulated all those around her, hell every night she calls a former inmate & tells her what to tweet for her & this chick has been!! Jodi has a Twitter account and has basically been tweeting from jail, it's astonishing! Now granted, if she gets life w/out parole, she'll be moved to another prison but I firmly believe she will thrive & consider it a "win". She'll still be able to draw, have considerable time outside, be able to interact with other inmates..the list goes on & on. Even though she won't be put to death for many, many years, at least on death row, she won't have interaction with other inmates, she'll get 1 hour outside each day, a shower 3 times a week, minimal visitation and that's IT. It will drive her INSANE (well more than she already is).

Years ago there was this chick named Sarah Jo Pender who was accused & convicted of killing 3 of her roommates. In jail, she manipulated EVERYONE around her, including using sex to seduce the prison guards, and eventually, that prison guard & a few inmates helped her escape. While a fugitive, her sister was manipulated into helping her, she met an older gentleman (married) who she seduced & began stealing money from his company & a list of other people she conned into doing things for her. Eventually she was caught & is back in prison....and so are ALL the people who helped her. I truly believe this is exactly what Jodi would do should she end up with life without parole. Perhaps she wouldn't bust out of jail, but I just know she'd manipulate everyone around her & would be somewhere where she felt she truly belongs.


"The grass is not greener on the other side, it's greener where you water it"

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2 Daughters: 15,11
Married 14 years Together 17 years
11 Month EA & PA
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Default  Posted: 9:33 AM, May 8th (Wednesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Well, I avoided this thread and tried to keep away, and avoided some more.

And I just cracked. WHAT IS TAKING SO BLOODY LONG????

I am trying to tell myself that they have not been allowed to talk to each other for 4 months. They have lots of catching up to do...

But jinkies, IT IS SO OBVIOUS! Convict her already!

(I was avoiding because I am already obsessed and because of the time difference I am already spending all my spare time watching testimony, Dr Drew, Nancy Grace etc. Not cos I don't love you guys best )

If this is going to be another Casey Anthony verdict, I swear I am going to fucking lose the plot. LOSE. THE. PLOT.


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Default  Posted: 9:44 AM, May 8th (Wednesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

If this is going to be another Casey Anthony verdict, I swear I am going to fucking lose the plot. LOSE. THE. PLOT.

Me, too. As a true crime junkie, I've spent way too much time watching HLN these past few months. Spent way too much time watching the Casey Anthony trial--and look how that turned out. In this instance, they have a confession from Arias. Surely with all the evidence presented, they won't let her off? Surely?????


Age: 64..ummmmmmm, no...............65....no...oh, hell born in 1947. You figure it out!

"I could have missed the pain, but I would have had to miss the dance." Garth Brooks


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sammie
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Default  Posted: 9:58 AM, May 8th (Wednesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

SURELY???? is my question too... but you never do know.

OJ - slam dunk I thought. Nope. Not so much. Same with Micheal Jackson. And Robert Blake.

Casey Anthony is the one that just slaughtered me though. (as you know. We were on that thread together)

I swear I am giving up trials if she walks. I cant put myself through this anymore. Its too painful.

(I actually said that after Casey and then when Josh Powell did what he did. But this time I really mean it. I cant take watching the bad guys win time after freaking time anymore.)


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Default  Posted: 10:12 AM, May 8th (Wednesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I would put money down that they are sparing over the 'battered girlfriend' issue.

How could they convict if she really was a battered woman

I have only caught the end of this, but battered or not, that woman is guilty.

And personally, i see her getting off, or at least getting a hung jury at this point. People are so quick to see the defendant as a victim now rather then a potential criminal, so unless they show up with literal blood on their hands, its starting to feel like the bad guys are getting away easier.


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Default  Posted: 10:34 AM, May 8th (Wednesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

My God, if she WAS battered, why did she continue to sneak around to him? I mean, she'd got away from him. (Rolls eyes.) And even if she WAS battered, wow, that was an awful overuse of force. And pretty much a slam dunk that she planned it. Oy!!!!

[This message edited by lynnm1947 at 10:34 AM, May 8th (Wednesday)]


Age: 64..ummmmmmm, no...............65....no...oh, hell born in 1947. You figure it out!

"I could have missed the pain, but I would have had to miss the dance." Garth Brooks


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Default  Posted: 10:34 AM, May 8th (Wednesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

oops double post

[This message edited by JanetS at 10:38 AM, May 8th (Wednesday)]


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