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User Topic: Jodie Arias Trial
Aubrie
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Default  Posted: 2:41 PM, May 22nd (Wednesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

When you step back and think about it, the jury has a serious decision to make. This is life or death. That's not an easy decision. Does she deserve death? Well, most people would say, "An eye for an eye. Look what she did to Travis. She deserves the same and worse."

Personally, I would hate to be on a Murder 1 jury. Because I would be fearful of the burden of passing down a death sentence. I don't know if it came right down to it, that I would be able to hand down death.

As much of a monster as she is, she's someone's daughter, a sister, an aunt, a cousin. Not making excuses. She did the crime, it was proven, and justice needs to be served.

It seems like a no-brainer. But each juror has their own personal beliefs and convictions. Gotta be tough for them.

I believe the best sentence would be a tiny cell, in the far corner of the prison in the middle of nowhere, in isolation, with nothing but crusty bread and stale water, with the victim's family member's pictures wallpapered on the cell walls. No running water, no sunlight, no electricity. In the winter she would freeze, in the summer she would sweat. No extra change of clothing. No showers. One small blanket. A wooden bucket in the corner to pee in. No jail store credits. No mail. No visitors. No interviews. Nothing. Just isolation for the rest of her natural life.

If she gets sick in 5 years from a disease and croaks or she lives to the ripe old age of 87, you will know that every day she lives, she will be living in misery. She will not be pampered or catered to.

She would be legitimately wishing for death then.

That to me, would be ideal.


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JessicaFL127
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Default  Posted: 2:46 PM, May 22nd (Wednesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Agreed, that would be ideal. But the closest our justice system has to that is death row. If she gets life, she would have all the "perks" on regular jail life and a way to feed her awful ego and get attention. That is all she cares about getting a life sentence for, she doesn't give a rip about her family. Or anyone else. The best justice would be the twenty years or so on death row in isolation; the death that comes to her eventually is not the true punishment with this sociopath.


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sadtoo
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Default  Posted: 2:50 PM, May 22nd (Wednesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

The problem with "life" is life doesn't always mean life.

Laws change and prisons become over populated. Prisoners who were sentenced to "life" somehow come up for parole.

Then the poor victim's family is subjected to going to parole hearings every single year (or whatever) and seeing their beloved's murderer and reliving this horrific event over and over and over again. It is NEVER over for them.

Just kill the bitch and be done.

[This message edited by sadtoo at 2:51 PM, May 22nd (Wednesday)]


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Aubrie
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Default  Posted: 2:51 PM, May 22nd (Wednesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I understand Jessica.

If she gets life, she would have all the "perks" on regular jail life and a way to feed her awful ego and get attention.
I really, really hope that the jury is taking that into consideration. We as the general public have been exposed to so much Arias Cray-cray. The jury hasn't seen as much. I hope that what they do have is enough.

[This message edited by Aubrie84 at 2:51 PM, May 22nd (Wednesday)]


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ThoughtIKnewYa
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Default  Posted: 2:53 PM, May 22nd (Wednesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I think the DP doesn't necessarily mean that she'll be executed because she will be appealing for years and years. I agree that she needs to be on death row because it takes away all of the attention and perks of being in the general population.

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JessicaFL127
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Default  Posted: 2:54 PM, May 22nd (Wednesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

As far as I understand it, if the jury finds for a life sentence, the judge has the choice of giving life with no possibility of parole or life with parole after 25 years. I don't think she would make parole an option. I would hope.


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Aubrie
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Default  Posted: 3:01 PM, May 22nd (Wednesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I don't think she would make parole an option.
Yeah well, we didn't think she'd lift the yak ban either allowing the drama llama to party all night long with interviewers.

One would hope that she would think about life without parole.


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JessicaFL127
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Default  Posted: 3:05 PM, May 22nd (Wednesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

True. But I took it as a way for the judge to err on the side of leniency with this crazy defendant to make absolutely sure she can't cry victim to ANY part of the trial and lobby for the conviction to be overturned.
Kind of placating her to keep her in line, KWIM? She seems like a tough cookie. But don't listen to me, I also thought Casey Anthony would be toast and look how that turned out...


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"But you said your vows, and you closed the door
On so many men who would have loved you more" -Cath, DCFC

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Default  Posted: 3:06 PM, May 22nd (Wednesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I don't think she would make parole an option. I would hope.

They just did that today...that was what the delay was all about. They had to add in the verbage for them to be able to consider 25 to life, life without P, and death.

When you step back and think about it, the jury has a serious decision to make. This is life or death.

I agree with this. And if JA had just shot him once in the head...or a few good stabs inthe chest and he bleed out, then fine, life WO parole...

She stabbed him 30 times, slit his throat from ear to ear, and shot him in the head.

I dont care how you try to spin self defense, that is over kill right there. You can't accidently stab somone 30 times, almost decapitate them, then shoot them for good measure....you just cant.


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solus sto
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Default  Posted: 5:57 PM, May 22nd (Wednesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

The interviews are so worrisome; why the ban was lifted is inexplicable. If this jury hangs (and honestly, I don't think it will; I think the jurors wanted a "what if" clarification), it will be next to impossible to impanel another jury for the penalty phase.

JSS has been flaky the last few days. The trial has taken a toll on all--and she is showing it. She lifted the interview ban. She "forgot" jury instruction.

But the jury? They have been strong and smart and I still have faith in them. It's been barely 6 hours of deliberation. They're still at it. I have no reason to believe they will fail anyone.

I am a hypocrite. I do not believe in the DP. In my state, there is a moratorium because prosecutorial misconduct has placed MANY innocents on death row, to be exonerated posthumously in many cases.

But we KNOW Jodi Arias committed this crime. I can live with the DP for her. I stand behind the Alexander family in their wishes.

OTOH, I don't think LWOP will be a picnic. She may be a diva with the reporters and in Maricopa County. In prison? Oh, no. Miss Thang will NOT be running the show.

I prefer to think of her on Death Row. Alone.

I heard a rumor--and it's just that because I have no idea whether it's true--that her first 3 years, if LWOP, will be spent in similar seclusion.

THAT would be the worst punishment for a woman as personality-disordered as Jodi Arias.

Take away the audience? She will come undone.

Though JSS appears pro-defense, I believe her modus operandi during the guilt phase was to eliminate cause for appeal. I do not envision her giving the perpetrator of this heinous crime life with possibility of parole. But in the unlikely event that she were to do so, think of the prisoners with the same sentence who face parole boards time after time---and are denied.

The Manson family leaps to mind. But there are many others.

Jodi Arias will never walk among us again.

I have avoided the interviews, but haven't been able to avoid every snippet. She is disgusting. Vile, vile, vile. She has absolutely no self-awareness. No, she's NOT insane. But she is just plain evil.

I hope and pray the jury is able to see this and return with a just verdict.


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lynnm1947
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Default  Posted: 6:46 PM, May 22nd (Wednesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Personally, I would hate to be on a Murder 1 jury. Because I would be fearful of the burden of passing down a death sentence. I don't know if it came right down to it, that I would be able to hand down death.

Aubrie, this jury was death penalty qualified, so they all said they COULD hand down death.


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Default  Posted: 7:59 PM, May 22nd (Wednesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

So disappointed with the deadlocked jury.

Yes I know that when push comes to shove it is hard to sign off on sending some one to their grave.

But Aria is such a smug vile creature with absolutely no redeeming qualities and if she gets out in 20 yrs she will kill again if she fixate on another man.

Just by her actions with calling the shots with the interviews, makeup, the no I'm sorry to the Alexander family, she truly believes she did nothing wrong and has learn nothing since her stay in prison.


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Default  Posted: 8:31 PM, May 22nd (Wednesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Question about one of Dr. Drew's guest Danine Manette was she once a poster here?

I know that a poster from years ago wrote a book about her husband's affair and the aftermath and I know she came back and posted that her book was published.


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sadtoo
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Default  Posted: 8:54 AM, May 23rd (Thursday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Yes, I believe that's her.


It is what it is, not what we hope it can be.

When another woman takes your husband,
sometimes the best thing you can do for
yourself is to LET HER HAVE the worthless
bum.
OC born 2001
Divorced 2003
Remarried 2008 (New Guy)


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Default  Posted: 9:28 AM, May 23rd (Thursday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Wow that is amazing Sadtoo, an extreme negative turned into something positive.


Those three words are said too much and not enough.
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Aubrie
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Default  Posted: 9:53 AM, May 23rd (Thursday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Ok, I'm confused.

I'm hearing/reading conflicting stories. Did the jury actually say they couldn't reach a unanimous vote or did they say, "What if they couldn't reach a unanimous vote"?


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Default  Posted: 10:49 AM, May 23rd (Thursday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

yesterday, the jury could not reach a unanimous choice. I think that was spurned the question as to what would happen IF they couldnt.

So, really, both questions were asked


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sadtoo
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Default  Posted: 5:15 PM, May 23rd (Thursday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

You know....I'm not sure. I don't think the questions was read in it's entirety.

I believe the question was a hypothetical type question. As in, "what do we do IF we do not come to a unanimous decision" type of question.

I think the judge was somewhat checked out. She had forgotten part of the jury instruction, etc.

Then the crazy "court expert" media nuts blow everything out of proportion.

I thought it was weird that this jury who has been sitting on this trial for almost SIX months and has been extremely responsible, reasonable and has taken this very seriously suddenly gets to the penalty phase would call it quits after an hour. It just didn't make sense to me. I just couldn't see them coming back that soon and throwing in the towel and letting the family (and everyone else) down after only a short time of "trying."

I think if this were really a "hung jury" they would have been back saying so by now.


It is what it is, not what we hope it can be.

When another woman takes your husband,
sometimes the best thing you can do for
yourself is to LET HER HAVE the worthless
bum.
OC born 2001
Divorced 2003
Remarried 2008 (New Guy)


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Aubrie
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Default  Posted: 6:24 PM, May 23rd (Thursday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Unreal.


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Default  Posted: 6:28 PM, May 23rd (Thursday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Well I guess the book club sealed the deal.

Freaking unbelievable.


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