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User Topic: Long Term Affairs - Part 31
ReunitePangea
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Default  Posted: 7:43 AM, March 19th (Tuesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

H&C - things will get better for you. Your kids sound like such amazing teenagers, be blessed that you have such great kids that enjoy spending time with you. I hope that when my kids hit that difficult teenage age they like spending as much time with me as yours do with you. Keep being the strong parent that they need in their lives.

MC - I think all of us on here are hoping that your talk with your WW went well. We are here for you if you need us.

[This message edited by ReunitePangea at 7:47 AM, March 19th (Tuesday)]


BS - Me 38
WS - Wife 39
D-Day - Oct 12
Married 10 years
OM1 - 12-year LTA
OM2 - 9 month A turned into open relationship with couple for another 1 1/2 years

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Default  Posted: 9:04 AM, March 19th (Tuesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Thanks for the support everyone. No update yet- things were hectic at home with activities until late, and today my WW is on call. So no big conversations until tomorrow.


I am not a marriage counselor. I chose "MC Jack" in the spirit of a handle like "MC Hammer" or Young MC"...there is a lot of 'rapping' here, no? At the time I did not know what MC stood for on this site. Duh.

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Default  Posted: 9:18 AM, March 19th (Tuesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

((((h & c))))

I am so sorry.

It will be difficult to adjust as my joy in life over the past 20 years has been my family.
I can only imagine what pain you are in. You will still have your family, albeit it will be different.


BW (me) 50ish FWH 50ish
Married 34 years, 3 children
d-day 3/10 LTA (4 yrs./fucking & flirting)

"Oh, why do my actions have consequences?" ~ Homer Simpson
"She knew my one weakness: That I'm weak!" ~ Homer Simpson


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honesttoafault
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Default  Posted: 11:53 AM, March 19th (Tuesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

It will be difficult to adjust as my joy in life over the past 20 years has been my family

H &C: You will still have your children. You sound like a great father who has a good relationship with your kids. That relationship and love will always be there. You will not lose your family. Unfortunately, we felt that our WS's were family too, and that loss is as great as the romantic loss too.

Misery is loving someone whe does not love you and love is a verb.

The WS demonizes the BS to rationalize their behavior. It's easier to put all the blame on another person than to do the hard work to look at themselves. It's easier for them to walk away than do the work to fix themselves and the marriage and to look at the damage they have caused.

MC: I hope that you and your WW can have a good talk. I agree with everyone that there are red flags in her behavior. She is blaming you for the consequences of her actions.

RSEB: I loved your posts to MC_Jack. I completely agree with you that the "Tryn Plan" can't be implemented truly until the BS is healed enough to do it and is ready to forgive the WS. Otherwise, the BS is the one who is doing the rugsweeping.

{{{{{Tribe}}}}


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Default  Posted: 1:03 PM, March 19th (Tuesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

hope: i am so so sorry for your pain....

we don't stop being parents, ever...

on a personal note....2 very good friends of mine, divorced...he left her for an ow.....it didn't work out for him with his ow....he never stopped being the parent though....he stepped up for every occasion, never missed a weekend with them, she put her feelings away, forgave him and co-parented....she had to do more, put more feelings aside, and she did...without an ounce of regret....she worked hard at being a co-parent with him....he did too...his work was easier then hers but still difficult...

these 2 people are wonderful parents...so much so that when i first learned about pfm, we named them guardians to our kids should anything happen to us and my mom.....

this weekend their oldest daughter was hit by a car....she is okay....banged up badly though....broken leg, broken nose, cracked teeth and will need surgery for her knee as well....she and her friend were both hit as they were crossing the street...the friend said that when "e" was struck by the car, she flipped upside down and landed on her face.....

this happened in boston, we live in Long Island....her dad rushed to boston and has not left her side since he got there, this happened on sun...her mom was in mexico on vacation....she has been trying to get a flight out and has finally got one this afternoon....her heart is broken because she cannot be there right now, she needs to be there, her daughter "e" needs her mom....but dad is still there...she is happy that dad is there....and soon she will have her mom there too....i am so proud of her dad....and how fortunate it is that all her injuries are fixable..

now the story does not end there....the mom is engaged to a wonderful man, the dad is married to a nice woman......so now the fiance of the mom is picking up the dad's wife and driving the 5 hour trip to boston together to pick up the mom at the airport in boston and then onto the hospital.....

the point....parenting never stops, and it will be what you make of it.....its hard work but the payoff is extraordinary and a priceless gift to the kids....

and hug your kids a bit tighter....life is short


i am taking my life back, one step at a time!!!!!

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trynhard
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Default  Posted: 1:27 PM, March 19th (Tuesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Let's review my plan...

MC to the best he can possible be, he tries to be the most attractive man possible. He understands every attraction and works hard to make this... him.

With courage, MC brings on conflict with any bad behaviors his W presents to him. He does it in such a way that begins with very light pressure, and should the bad behaviors continue, he adds more pressure. The end of the conflict is the final ultimatum.

He accepts with serenity the things that cannot be changed.

You did what you had to do because that is what a good person does. It is a done deal.

So MC, you have no clue if your W has made contact with OM or not. Too drag yourself down a hole of assumptions will only bring you misery. I say don't even concern yourself. It does not matter. This is about you. Make it only about you. If there is more, it will come out. This conflict is about this situation.

Her bad behavior today is that one where she is sticking her nose into other people's business where it doesn't belong. It does not even matter the reason.

Tell her in a loving way.. Stay the hell out of those peoples lives and focus only on what you should be focused on... us.

“I have made a choice to forgive you. I am executing it. We can talk more in depth about something that happened last month if you want, but that discussion just brings up a past that does nothing to build our marriage. I have been open with you about everything I said and did. There is no more to be done. I am now focused on us and how we both can now focus on the most loving, caring, giving and intimate marriage. I want you to let go of any worry about what happens to them. I will just listen if you want to tell me more about how you feel.”
“Honey, it’s time for you to forgive yourself. If we both focus on just us, I believe we can have something more special than we have ever before. I take on the challenge today to be a far better man. I invite you to join me in the new marriage that I want.”
I believe in MC. I think he can accept anything he cannot control. He can manage this single conflict today and know that no matter what happens tomorrow he can deal with that conflict at that time. Yes, he may need to bring on added pressure. Maybe not.

He might face she did cross the boundary. He must ask why?

“We can be totally honest with each other. You can make a choice to be 100% committed or not. This is your choice. Are you in 100% today?”

If no, he can give her what she wants.. Because I hope his own values are that he will only be in a M mutually 100%.

[This message edited by trynhard at 1:28 PM, March 19th (Tuesday)]


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Wow, Miracle -- I think that accident happened right around the corner from where I live -- I read about a hit and run and two kids (from Boston College? Or BU?) getting hit. What an awful story, but what a great story, too, of people putting aside their hurt for their kids. It's got to be one of the hardest things to do and I'm sure H&C is up to it.


BS (me): 49
WS: 50
Married: 25 yrs
Kids: 2
OW: Co-worker, 7 yr LTA
DD 8/1/2012, Working on R

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iwantamiracle
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Wow...yes that's the story blobette...if i may ask where did u read it...which paper...

[This message edited by iwantamiracle at 2:41 PM, March 19th (Tuesday)]


i am taking my life back, one step at a time!!!!!

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Default  Posted: 2:49 PM, March 19th (Tuesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Tryin,

In my gut, maybe my FORMER WAYWARD gut, I feel like MC Jacks W is NOT being honest. I think, even if she has or has not acting on what she is feeling in regard to OM, the feelings are still there, this is where her misplaced anger is coming from.
I do believe that MC Jack has become a "quality" man, with a great deal of influence from your words of advice, as I also have tried to follow in my life and my road of R.

However I don't believe MC's WW is there with him. When you wrote:

“Honey, it’s time for you to forgive yourself. If we both focus on just us, I believe we can have something more special than we have ever before. I take on the challenge today to be a far better man. I invite you to join me in the new marriage that I want.”

I think that will not engage her, not because she may not in the future, but not right now. Her head is clearly not focused on only her M. Her thoughts are racing in all directions, unfortunately some of those thoughts are still entangled with MOM and his BW. If MC Jack were to say those kind loving words I don't believe it will have a positive effect on his WW. I think her feelings are still with the MOM. I believe MC Jack needs to have a talk with her, but let her do most of the talking as someone else suggested. This is not the time to shower her with loving inviting words. And honestly at only a year out from D Day, I don't know if MC Jack has even forgiven his WW. Had you forgiven your W in that time frame?

If I am correct and her feelings are with the MOM then MC Jacks kind words will make him look weak, and that is NOT appealing or attractive. It puts MC Jack on the opposite side of MOM. MC Jack has to show his strength with a SOLID 180, that is to protect himself, incase there isn't a M to protect.

MC Jack's WW has been transparent and forthcoming as far as he knows since D Day. But for MC Jack something in his radar has shifted. His WW is not as far out from D Day as your WW. She is being influenced by something, whether it be MOM or not, she is not being influenced by their M, or this entire Cellphone bill thing wouldn't even be an issue.

I have to go get my kids off the bus now. I will try and check back in a bit. MC Jack good luck to you. Do what you feel in your gut. You know your M and your WW. I wish you strength.

RSEB


ME - FWS


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...about them consequences...the talking will have to wait until tomorrow night...

First, thank you everyone for the support.

I have done some more reflection on:

where her misplaced anger is coming from

She stated to me the other day that it was not the fact that I told the BW that has made her upset, it is what I reported back from the BW that has upset her. Namely, OM said she was 'fatal attraction' crazy and that OM's friend was 'not surprised' to learn that WW was unfaithful. OM friend also trained with WW and OM. My WW and OM had a 'relationship' in the year prior to me meeting her.

I think there is some popping of a fantasy bubble. It has to do with two things I suspect, though I could be wrong:

1. people part of your regular social or professional circles that it matters what they know or think

The OM trained with my WW 20+ years ago and is well connected with that institution and others that trained at the place. Word will get around. I just realized that though my WW told everyone here, family, coworkers, friends, it was a 'safe audience', meaning these folks had heard many times over the years that WW was 'unhappy', that Jack was neglectful, etc., so they were preconditioned to 'understand' my WW's 'mistake'. Not so for people who just know me or neither of us really well. So prior to last month, the shame was 'contained'.

2. the WW fog somehow, and romanticizing her past with MOM

It is not that WW wants to get back with MOM. She is trying to minimize her losses. She wanted to believe that they were 'friends' with bad boundaries and who made terrible mistakes. Not that she was completely used and womanized, and behaved like a desperate slut. Neither story changes my pain (or does it?), but the latter scenario really makes her question her judgement and how in touch with reality she was, well beyond sliding down a slippery slope. Some kind of self protecting self deception that has gotten burst.

Probably angry at herself...and just can't admit it.

Anyways, we'll see. I'm not worried about MOM. She does not want him in her future. She maybe wants to reconstruct the past to feel better about herself...we all do that to a degree. At what point is it unhealthy? Sounds like a coping skill of the abused...


who's coming out here skiing?

[This message edited by MC_Jack at 3:40 PM, March 19th (Tuesday)]


I am not a marriage counselor. I chose "MC Jack" in the spirit of a handle like "MC Hammer" or Young MC"...there is a lot of 'rapping' here, no? At the time I did not know what MC stood for on this site. Duh.

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atsenaotie
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Default  Posted: 4:23 PM, March 19th (Tuesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

MC_J,

...but the latter scenario really makes her question her judgement and how in touch with reality she was,...

IMO, this is a good thing. The beginning of ownership perhaps.

In the early months after dday, even when FWW accepted that her A's were "wrong", she referred to OM as "fond friends" and felt protective of them. As the scales fell from her eyes and she began to understand and accept the dynamics of her A with them, she began to feel used and dirty.

To this day there are events related to her employment where she worked for last OM where she will not go for fear of what people might know, and potential jobs for which she will not apply for fear of seeing OM or people knowing of her and OM.


LTA BS 53
FWW 60
M 1990, dday 10-5-09
Reconciled

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Default  Posted: 4:24 PM, March 19th (Tuesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Desperate slut.

I think it's safe to say MC has a way to go before WW is forgiven.

I think, even if she has or has not acting on what she is feeling in regard to OM, the feelings are still there, this is where her misplaced anger is coming from.

RSEB -- Feelings are just feelings. They don't necessarily mean anything. They're certainly a poor basis to make judgements on. My feelings are frequently completely disconnected from my reality. I'm not saying she's not acting from them -- but I hope we're all getting too smart to do that very often. It's not that they can't be considered, but they're not the be all and end all and are frequently disorted in situations like this.


BW 38, 5 kids
Dday Dec. 2009

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I think it's safe to say MC has a way to go before WW is forgiven.

Should have been more clear...was positing 'the story of the A' options that the MOM will be reporting to his contacts. I think it is sinking in with WW that among people in their professional circle, she's going to be Glenn Close.

Actually, I have already forgiven her for part of this mess:

1. The one year EA which started it out during which she was a jerk to me most of the time and during which we went to a few MC appts. where she said nothing...
2. Going to see OM the first time where the innocence of our M was thrown away. I understand the idea of this being true luuurve and wanting to see if this is 'what was meant to be' nonsense.

After that...not yet forgiven. Why?

1. After that meeting OM made it clear that this was FWB never anything more.
2. WW had info that there were other APs but chose self-delusion (I can fix him).
3. WW stopped being mean to me and started being nice. Rationalized that since she was hurting me so bad how could she be mean about this or that. That communicated to me that everything was going great and set me up as a PTSD lamb for slaughter.
4. With her being nice, I started doing more nice things. Like me planning a nice vacation (whoops, she snuck up the night before to the mountains to sleep with MOM while I was in class and he was in town). Like me planning a nice anniversary trip (whoops, she had to call him from our hotel for over an hour while I was at the pool). Like planning an nice Valentines Dinner (whoops, she was leaving to go see the OM next day unfazed).
Not only did she let me believe something that was not true, she helped me believe that things were way better than they were.

Yep...setting me up as a PTSD lamb for slaughter... that may be the worst. Has affected all aspects of my life.

[This message edited by MC_Jack at 5:47 PM, March 19th (Tuesday)]


I am not a marriage counselor. I chose "MC Jack" in the spirit of a handle like "MC Hammer" or Young MC"...there is a lot of 'rapping' here, no? At the time I did not know what MC stood for on this site. Duh.

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Default  Posted: 6:03 PM, March 19th (Tuesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Ok MC, we have some renewed info to work with... I remember you saying she understood your contacting OMW. I don't remember your sharing what OWM told you. Ok it was meant to be told to your W. She must now take it.. On her own...She's in fear what others think about her. No positives will come if you rub her nose in it.

I think M3 is saying your W should just be in a place where she releases all.. Let's it go.. Whatever happens, happens and no matter what happens she will now focus on only you and how you feel. Kinda like njgals H won her back with changed his behavior. Then you have RSEB doing all she can do to win her H back to peace Only then do you forgive. Am I reading that right ladies? I am for starting to forgive after a few months of soul searching and a re-commitment and they show they do want the M.. Maybe more will need to think about it.

People don't know how to R. This could be your W. She's still stuck in the Me Me Me mode. The girls might be reading this... They can speak woman talk.. We can't. Lol

You can lead her into mutual mode. She feels unsafe and you have a chance now to make sure she knows she is safe with you. How about this?

"Honey, you are a damn good surgeon. Nothing you do or have ever done will change that. Not gossip, not reality in any of your personal business. I am 100 percent dedicated to our M and I want you to be 100 percent dedicated to our m. What we must do today is be there for each other, forever. I will always be here for you if you give me the same in return. We cannot change the past, we can only improve the future for each of us. For us and for the family we have. Life is full of ups and downs. Good and bad. We can choose to allow to let outside things into this or not. It does not matter to me what anyone thinks about our M. It matters what we think about it."
Reset... "I am going to make some tea, would you like a cup?"

IMO, if you get into a deep discussion about her fears, that discussion will take you both down some hurt. Let her feel what she feels on her own.

Be keenly aware of her actions. Yes, I would love to sky.. But can't.
I
y 2 cents.

[This message edited by trynhard at 6:24 PM, March 19th (Tuesday)]


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MC Jack,

It is EXTREMELY hard for me to read your posts. It is as if my BH is writing them. I can relate to what your WW is going thru as far as realizing her reputation is tarnished, if not forever, most definitely for a VERY VERY long time.

When you mentioned all the times she was with you with the wonderful trips and time together you planned yet she couldn't stay away from either contacting or going to see the OM it made my skin crawl. I too am guilty of such hurtful and disgusting things. I cannot believe I did those things. In my LTA I was sexually involved with the MOM no more then 12 times, but the texting was out of control, like an obsession. And yes, even when I would be having a good time with my BH and kids, I would feel the need to check my phone and if he had texted...whew, it felt like a rush and then of course I texted back. I personally still am working through the fact that it was ME that did those things. I was that cruel and calculating a person. I lost ALL sight of anything but getting to that phone. It was my addiction.

Just the other day I was telling my BH about one of the patients that had come into the office. He was a young guy who is a recovering drug addict. He says he has been clean for 5 years. He has now started a new job helping to counsel other addicts. He needed a note to let his employer know why he was being presecibed Klonipin (for his extreme anxiety). Two days later, he called the office saying that someone broke into his car and stole the meds and he wanted a new script. And there it was...his reputation is tarnished and he was second guessed, even if he IS clean, the doubt was immediately there. We had to call his father to back up his story. So when I was telling my BH, he said yeah it is hard to prove yourself after being a liar for so long, and all I said is "yeah I know, I live it EVERY day"...my BH hugged me and said it was okay. We didn't mean for the conversation to shift towards me, but it was MY realization. How it creeps up on me every day in SO many different situations, but unfortunately I don't have someone to call that can back up my story.

MC Jack, I can see your WW having a hard time with this reality and she does have to work with these people. I can see her frustration. For me, I don't have to see the "friends" that were in the group with MOM. I could walk away. There are family members and close friends that do know of my A and we do see them, but they are rooting for our M.


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MC Jack --

I would never push someone to forgive, at any time really. It's great if you can, but if not, oh well.

After that meeting OM made it clear that this was FWB never anything more.

I think you could probably forgive her for this one too pretty easily if you could keep in mind that women hear this from men all the time and a huge portion of them are bluffing in case it doesn't work out.

As far as her work reputation, it's a social reputation, not about her work, so that's good. Not sure how the culture is with surgeons, but a lot of places they act like real rock stars. Could be that she could talk about it and give an honest assesment of OM too. Turnabout is fair play if he's slandering her. I'm in the law field and it might as well be a mob movie with goombahs (have no idea if that's real in IRL but I'm working on movies here) people are so open about the affairs they have. Anyway, I don't really know. Maybe she doesn't want to close that door all the way yet, beats me. It's likely some people will fish for more gossip from her. If they do she could easily say "you know, I had a fling with him. I hear that he's told a huge portion of the staff. But my husband found out and my husband is way better than OM so I feel pretty stupid now, especially since I hear OM is calling me crazy and slutty to get back at me for dumping him. It's a vindictive thing to do, espeically since going in we were clear it was just a FWB thing and it just shows that ending it was the right thing. But I think it's going to suck for him because my BH told his wife and gave her some hard evidence and his wife is divorcing him over it which I'm sure is going to be pretty pricey. I'm lucky my husband loves me enough to forgive me for being selfish and hurting him." If she says something like that in "confidence" to a few of the right people her "desperate slut bunny boiler" repuation will be solved.

But I don't know if surgeons are that open about those sorts of things like lawyers tend to be. We're all pretty jaded. Even if they're not I bet there are a couple of gossips she could "confide" in.


BW 38, 5 kids
Dday Dec. 2009

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Actually, we're super majorly jaded, at least in the tiny little area of law I'm in. It's like a soap opera. And honestly, a lot of times people think it's funny. Because when lawyers do something stupid, all the other lawyers laugh at them. So, you'll get the gossip -- like A has been having an affair with B for 2 or 3 years and A's wife catches him and divorces him and everybody says stuff like he's an idiot for getting caught and now he's going to be stuck with B and B isn't worth the huge child support check A is going to be writing so he's screwed.

Or, sometimes they laugh at the BS if the BS is a former affair partner. As in, well she was the THIRD time he ditched his wife at the time to marry the secretary -- what did she think was going to happen now that he's filing so he can marry secretary #4.

Seriously. I really know a guy who has married FOUR of his secretaries. Jeesh.


BW 38, 5 kids
Dday Dec. 2009

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M33-
People talk...that's what they do.
Where I work people often 'know' about affairs that are ongoing and of course make judgements, take sides (usually with the BS), and gossip.

But, that's the risk you take when you have an affair.

Did they really think they would get away with everything unscathed?

There are CONSEQUENCES!

And IMHO that's a good thing.

It helps the WS 'wake up and smell the coffee'.

It makes then more aware for the next time a temptation happens (at least some do..obviously not happening for your 4 times married lawyer friend).

But,that being said.....eventually this story becomes old news and everyone is focused on the next infidelity story or scandal.

so, my advice for MCJack's wife remains the same.

She needs tostop worrying about what the OM is saying and instead focus on herself, her children, her husband and on saving her marriage.

That is...if that is her number one priority -which it should be!

And....I really ,really think that she needs to get herself to an IC (physician heal thyself).

I also believe that at this point the majority of your affair related discussions should take place in the neutral territory of a MC office.
(Even though your MC is a bit suspect IMHO for his advice regarding not giving the info to other BS but that's me LOL).


Me- BS
Him- WH
Long term marriage
D-day- Jan. 2007
5 yr. LTA
Reconciled.


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H&C- Just wanted to send you a hug.
You will be OK.

Surround yourself with those that love you -your children, your friends and focus on taking care of yourself.You need to be healthy for them!


Me- BS
Him- WH
Long term marriage
D-day- Jan. 2007
5 yr. LTA
Reconciled.


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Hey Jollum and DP, hoping you are doing OK if you are lurking out there.


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FWW 60
M 1990, dday 10-5-09
Reconciled

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