I attended a lecture by William Walsh, PhD, last weekend. He has done extensive research in advanced nutrition therapy and mental health. He has studied the biochemistry of violent criminals for many years. He said that almost all the school shooters were prescribed anti-depressants.
Almost all the criminals and school shooters who had bad reactions to these meds also had low methyl and low folate, this was particularly true for young males.
He proposes testing for this biochemical picture before taking an anti-depressant.
I know many on this board struggle and turn to ADs and have also met people who felt suicidal or violent when then they took these meds.
I wanted to pass on this information. Please don't get mad at me if you are taking ADs and it is working for you. I am happy for you that you have a great tool. I just wanted to share this practical info about testing before taking ADs in the hopes that it may help someone avoid bad side effects that they may have a particular sensitivity to.
Here are Dr. Walsh's thoughts: http://www.biobalance.org.au/blog/
Almost all the criminals and school shooters who had bad reactions to these meds also had low methyl and low folate
How was he able to ascertain this?
There are power points on his presentations and more info on
I thought this was not only fascinating but potentially really important info to know about.
How did a random PhD have access to the blood, urine and medical histories to be able to say "almost all"? I had autospy samples during grad school, you have to go through hell to get them.
Is he selling something, by chance?
Edit: It just occurred to me. I will bet $$ that the low methyl is histone modification-- if all else fails, blame epigenetics!
[This message edited by roughroadahead at 9:04 PM, May 12th (Sunday)]
He does talk about methyl being a dominant factor in epigentic processes as well as having a powerful effect on neurotransmitters. He says 70% of people with mental health have a methylation disorder.
It's not hard to check yourself for low folate. Use a direct to patient lab and run a test for high homocysteine. If homocysteine is high then folate is low.
Roughroad, why call him 'random'? Just because your grad school didn't include his research in your curriculum doesn't mean his work is invalid. Perhaps you've heard of Carl Pfieffer the famous MD, pharmacologist, biochemist and his decades of work with schizophrenia? Walsh worked as a chief scientist at the Pfeiffer Treatment center for decades. Now he teaches physicians all around the world to look more closely at an individual's biomarkers before prescribing pychoactive meds.
I just wanted to pass this on for any young men or concerned parents of young men to get a simple and cheap blood test for low folate before taking SSRIs.
It is only too common for people, including physicians and scientists, to say lots of things that sound promising, almost "too easy", just to make money.
Anyone else out there with an open mind who wants to explore this avenue of thought, he has a book out.
That being said I don't doubt in the least that we will find many of our answers to mental illness in looking at biochemical and nutritional aspects.
That being said even I as a layperson can't help but wonder if the antidepressants aren't the antecedent variable here.. do they react violently to the meds or are they predisposed to violence, therefore on meds, and reacted violently as a result of the condition that led them to meds in the first place? Chicken/Egg.
I am by no means a pharmaceutical apologist and I do shake my head at those in the medical field so willing to take the current research at face value in the name of science. It doesn't take much to find out that the studies promoting the benefits of these products are often paid for/endorsed by/ sponsored by the drug companies themselves. And honestly.. just because one learned it in med school only means its the accepted science of the time. It's always in flux, and the process of research/peer review/analysis can take decades to change commonly accepted practice, and there will always be someone with monetary interest to throw a wrench into progress.
In the end I think we live in a society that cuts things open or slap a metaphorical bandaid on things to make them better and theres long been a need for us as patients to take a good hard look into how we treat and fuel our bodies before we look for answers in a pill.
And this opinion is from someone who takes meds for anxiety . Yep.. I know.. but when you are feeling like your life is unmanageable, you are very unlikely to wade through all this stuff. You just want to feel better.
I appreciate the link and I will take the time to read it.
I want to be a fly on the wall 100 years from now when we look back at the way we treated mental illness and see the massive changes. Hopefully they are coming.
It is not even about big pharma for me, to be honest. So very little is understood about the biochemistry of the brain. Individual pathways have been elucidated, such as 5-HT for seratonin, but how these work together for brain functioning in a "healthy" brain is far from well understood. The differences between brains with and without various mental illnesses is only just beginning to be understood.
It makes me wary when scientists are selling books (rather than publishing papers). He has a hypothesis, not the answer. If he has some data, great, but that's not the end of the story. Also, folate is one of the most heavily fortified vitamins--you'll find it added to bread, breakfast cereals etc.
I don't discount that there is a lot of promise and good work in metabolism and nutrition. What I am suspicious of is people who take advantage of the general distrust of "big pharma" in order to put promising-sounding, but under-studied treatments/cures out there for their own gain.
Throwing out the accusation that he's just in it for the money is a cheap shot to put down an idea you aren't familiar with or don't agree with.
That doesn't mean that <whatever> is completely invalid; it merely means something seems hinky.
FWIW. I agree with meta's last remark:
...only I hope some Big Answers come out in my lifetime. They seem at times tantalizingly close.
Blowing off someone's work when you just don't know is a shame.