I fucking don't want to live in fear any more. I've been feeling so strong since we have absolutely no contact but now I have that fear creeping back up.
Then I saw his profile picture on facebook and I was overwhelmed with dread and repulsion and I almost threw up. I still feel a little nauseous. Why am I reacting this way? Is this normal? What helped you cope with the repulsion?
I don't see my therapist until next week Friday. Thank you for your help!!
Sometimes I just want to crawl into a hole...never to be seen again. You know?
Your reaction is quite normal. Instead of repulsed, though, mine is depression. To know that I gave this woman everything that I had...
For them to treat us like this is unacceptable.
"You never know how strong you are until being strong is the only choice you have." ~ Bob Marley
I thought by the six month mark, I would be seeing some light at the end of the tunnel, but I think it will take a couple of years before that happens. The trust was broken at such a deep level and I was completely blindsided when I found out about the affair. It has shaken me down to the core of my being and I am questioning almost everything I thought I knew.
I have so many triggers but I have hope that over time, it will heal. Hearing that other people get through this and in a few years, my life will be so much better gives me hope.
In the meantime, we lean on each other to get through......
Due to DS, we are still linked, so I have to deal with XH and his nonsense. I fear for my child's emotional well being, but have accepted that the situation just is what it is and despite what comes our way, we will work through it.
As far as repulsion, well, it just got to be old news after a while. Maybe like witnessing mangled bodies for ER workers... There is still something especially out of the ordinary every now and then, but mostly it is the same old stuff from XH month after month.
2. Time, distance, and NC nudge you ever closer to indifference.
3. DON'T ignore fear. It can be an indicator that something is off/wrong or that there is actual danger. Are you at risk? Is he dangerous?
"Ring the bells that still can ring
Forget your perfect offering
There is a crack in everything
That's how the light gets in." -Cohen
I have fears about Perv, but I don't know if the thoughts are irrational based on all the stuff he's done or if they are justified because of what he's capable of. I don't feel physically afraid of him, I'm 80% certain he's too cowardly for that.
I do have nerves about his DD visits and don't calm down until she's home again. But that happens with anyone she goes off with and I'm not there, so that's one reason I'm not sure of sorting the fears out.
Yes, I feel repulsion and disgust and like he's... dirty. The more I was learning about his SA stuff, the more it helped me become "turned off" by him. The more women I would see on the internet before I stopped looking, the more turned off I became and disgusted, too.
Ironically, he's pushing for "Model Citizen Perv" to come back out from under the rock he slithered under, but now...now, he's simply Perv, no matter how hard he works at being Model Citizen Perv.
Do any of you think that people who cheat can rid themselves of the stigma? Perv (short for "Disgusting Pervert") is working so hard at rugsweeping he must be exhausted, so I wonder if there are people who get rid of the stigma in the public eye?
I haven't met any or come across any that have...what I do see is, like him, trying to change his surroundings and people around him and turn his back on people from his "other life."
I worry about what DD will hear or see or learn in his presence and I never had that before, when "Model Citizen Perv" was present.
The only thing that stays the same, is change. -M. Etheridge
I don't know how to block on FB
Settings (the little cog in the upper right hand corner)
Blocking (menu list on left side of screen)
Tact is for people who aren't witty enough to be sarcastic.
He is a diagnosed malignant narcissistic psychopath. I read Nature_Girl's posts and it's like she's talking about the same sub-human. I also noticed every time I got space and time from having to deal with him, my strength crept up - like being around him was radioactive and just kept me worn down and sensitized to his normal crap.
This past holiday season, he showed back up after NC for six months to try and pull a power play and demand the kids for a weekend, though he had seen them a dozen times maximum in the almost ten years since the D, and after almost nine years since he was around them alone.
He had a new girlfriend and wanted to use the kids to solidify whatever image of the "ideal man" he'd crafted for her. Ironically, when I told the kids about the demand, they looked at each other - all teenagers versus the small kids they were before - and said, "Mom, that poor woman has no idea who she's dealing with. Should we warn her?" I grinned at them as they crafted a plan to agree to a movie, with only meeting him there.
Short story: when she gave them an in by saying how amazing they all were and how surprised she was that they were so healthy with such a difficult "family situation" (meaning me), they told her to be careful, that he wasn't who he said he was, that they wanted nothing to do with him and that I was an "angel" and far too kind to the bastard - and actually said this all in front of him.
He was furious. They stared him down. I couldn't help but beam at their courage as they relayed the story after I got a volcanically angry email from him. They weren't afraid of him. I know if we hadn't been as successful in freeing ourselves, that would have been a very different story.
Before, I would have been anxiety ridden, trying to per-emptively plan for what he would do as revenge, but I found I had an increasing zen about not only what he could do to us, but why any of it would matter.
We'd already seen his worst. Not much to fear after that. And by getting free, they have less opportunity to act out.
I think it's a fantasy to plan for interaction to ever get completely neutral with these type of men, but it does go from Sauron like power to Golem; both are gross, but that sense of power diminishes from frightening to pitifully disgusting.
Thank you for the above! You are absolutely right ... I should not ignore fear. I feel he is dangerous to himself (past suicidal attempts, threats, behavior). The best indicator of future behavior is past behavior, right? He has access to firearms because he is a cop. I don't know if the police department gave him his badge/firearms back and I have no way of finding out.
I honestly can't say that I feel safe but I've done all what I can to protect myself and kids: I wrote to the chief of police begging them to do a comprehensive psych evaluation to protect himself and his fellow officers (since they didn't give a shit about me and my kids) before giving him back his firearms; I've installed security cameras; I've changed my will and trust and made explicit directions who should care for the children should I die; when the kids were participating in visitations, they had an emergency plan; emergency set of keys; cellphones; copy of court order at son's school that states stbx cannot take son out of school.
What do I do with that fear? I understand I should not ignore it but how do I use it in a productive way? At the very least, it has reminded me that I should always be alert to a certain degree. I guess as much as it pisses me off to live in fear ... that is my new normal. Hmmm ... I am going to process this a bit more. Thank you so much for bringing it to my attention!!
e.t.a. I need to get this out. A little less than 2 weeks ago, I had a dream that he came back to the house; I saw him at the front screen door; and he said to me "I should have killed you when I had the chance."
This scared the crap out of me. I usually never have (or at least don't remember having) dreams. I pride myself on being such a good sleeper. I don't watch scary shows because I'm a scardy cat. So this dream really shook me up.
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At 3 years, I find that I go whole days without thinking of him at all. I can have fun and not be looking over my shoulder.
I do still have a few dreams that leave me shaken in the mornings but not often. I also set my day by whether I will have to see him due to sporting events, but I will answer the phone, I will address him face to face if I have to about scheduling.
I have gone to staring through him and actively pretending he doesn't exist in real life to accepting that he does exist, that he is an idiot and I will have to deal with him and that I can do it!
I think it is like the difference between a giant wasp buzzing in your ear and a mosquito. Sometimes the mosquito startles you and sometimes it bites but it is a nuisance and the realization that you can swat it comes quickly. The wasp reaction? yeah, that is different.
And for those who wonder, my reaction to exwh was severe. I had full blown panic attacks, prescribed medication, sleep issues. There was the potential for violence and actual breaking and entering on his part.
I am proof that you can come a LONG LONG WAY from fear and repulsion.
This above all: to thine own self be true, and it must follow, as the night the day, thou canst not then be false to any man, ~ Shakespeare
I was kind of angry because I felt like, DUH, don't you think if I could talk myself down I would???
Anyway, I just wanted you to know you aren't alone. I've said here that I am still repulsed by the sight of him, adn I'm 17 months out from dday and 4 months divorced now. Folks here say it's the other 4 letter word, time, that will help the revulsion pass.
Hang in there hon, you are doing great!!!
"Diamonds aren't a girl's best friend, freedom is."
caregiver9000: I am proof that you can come a LONG LONG WAY from fear and repulsion. Thank you for stating this! I needed to know that it's possible.
Phoenix1: I have reached a point that I don't care, and living in fear is not an option. <<< This is where I want to be. Certain people should not have the authority to carry a firearm, right? When you said he had "an arsenal of firearms", I literally got fear goosebumps. Thank you for responding!