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ms521 (original poster member #12008) posted at 12:09 AM on Thursday, May 30th, 2013
I ransacked WH's closet yesterday trying to find a missing watch. Long story short, I did eventually find the watch... along with a couple tins of tobacco chew. Ugh. This is something he did decades ago in our old Army life... as a new girlfriend, I used to even pick up a tin for him now and then. As a wife, I told him it needed to stop. And it did. I knew he did it occasionally when old Army buddies came to visit, but never regularly in our last 16 years of marriage.
I confronted him about the chew and he admitted that he has done it "occasionally" over the last year. It's not like cigarettes - he doesn't smell, it doesn't impart second-hand smoke into MY lungs or the lungs of our children, it doesn't make our house smell, etc. But I hate it. And I hate that it's one more thing I didn't know about that has been a part of his life.
He seemed to feel truly awful, and part of me (the "bigger" part) wanted to shrug it off. He's a grown man. If he wants to chew on his own time, is it really something to get upset over if I don't ever know it?? He said he felt bad because it was "just one more thing," to which I replied, "well, hey... maybe you'll get cancer and die and I won't have to worry about your chewing OR your fidelity."
He looked like I'd physically punched him, and I'm stunned that I even said that. It's low and terrible, but it's really just the worst in a long string of "jabs" that I've been dealing in his direction. I can't stop myself... these horrible things come out of my mouth and I can't seem to get my filter back in place! I know I'm trying to hurt him because I'm still hurting, but sheesh... how can I reign it in?? I'm about to go sit on the timeout step myself!
[This message edited by ms521 at 6:11 PM, May 29th (Wednesday)]
Madhatters.
Me: FWW (STA 2002), now a BW.
Him: FWH (OW1: 2006-2007), now just WH (OW2: 2010-2013)
I will never stop trying... because when you find 'the one' you never give up. (Cal Weaver)
crazyblindsided ( member #35215) posted at 12:13 AM on Thursday, May 30th, 2013
I have the same issue. Most times I will type out what I want to say and then decide whether to send or not.
I got a little nasty with my WH yesterday. I called his MOW names and associated him with her
This road is so not easy!
fBS/fWS(me):52 Mad-hattered after DD (2008)
XWS:55 Serial Cheater, Diagnosed NPD
DD(22) DS(19)
XWS cheated the entire M spanning 19 years
Discovered D-Days 2006,2008,2012, False R 2014
Separated 9/2019; Divorced 8/2024
Tiredofthepain ( member #37932) posted at 12:25 AM on Thursday, May 30th, 2013
That is something I have a very hard time with right now. The resentment, the anger, the pain, it is so easy to throw insult after insult at them, I mean they are the cause of all of our pain!
The thing I am trying, but not too successful at is it is hurting ME to have so many negative emotions, but what are we supposed to do with them? I try writing, talking to my sister, coming here, but it just stews and stews until it erupts. Hopefully one day it will simmer down.
ME-BS 48
HIM-WS 38
WS is SA, multiple visits to prostitutes.
Status: Hanging in there
I would rather be told a hurtful truth than a comforting lie.
Blameitontherain ( member #37476) posted at 12:29 AM on Thursday, May 30th, 2013
My WH has dipping (previously quit) then started smoking right after our youngest was born without me knowing, I didn't find out until 4 months later. I know exactly what you mean by hiding something and you feeling betrayed, even if it is little. I also know the being mean part. I consider myself a lady. My mouth turned dirty and I curse like a sailor at him now. While he was unremorseful and deployed and I actually wished him dead. I never spoke of it to him but I have now shared it with him. It was like I punched him when he heard it. Reality of what he did and how much I hurt finally started to sink in. Irony of it all, he told me he wished himself dead on that same deployment because of everything.
ms521 (original poster member #12008) posted at 1:19 PM on Thursday, May 30th, 2013
Thanks all. Glad to know I'm not the only one with filter problems at the moment. I just wish I knew how to reign it in. I mean, I'm an adult - I should be able to express my pain without attacking him. And as for wishing him dead? I don't at all -
But. I. am. still. so. SO. mad.!!! How long does this anger phase last? I keep getting hit with these awful realizations: like our youngest is about to turn 6, and given the timeline of their A, I realized that this will be the first birthday since our youngest turned 2 (TWO!!!) that WH hasn't been cheating. The realization that WH has sat next to OW2 on an airplane more over the last 3 years than he has with me over our entire marriage also kills me. WH chalks these trips up as meaningless - most of them were day-trips, and he assures me they weren't out sightseeing. But I'm jealous of the time. For me to accompany WH on a business trip means finding childcare coverage AND us footing the expense of travel. But OW2 has no kids and works for the same company - so she can just hop on a plane with WH and expense it! In other words, the company actually PAID for their affair!!
Anyway - I keep having these awful realizations and then telling WH about them. But instead of seeking comfort- it's like I'm seeking to hurt him and I know he's already hurting. He's really remorseful and really trying.
I don't want the A to turn me into some ugly bitter woman, but I feel it dragging me down.
Madhatters.
Me: FWW (STA 2002), now a BW.
Him: FWH (OW1: 2006-2007), now just WH (OW2: 2010-2013)
I will never stop trying... because when you find 'the one' you never give up. (Cal Weaver)
bikerider827 ( new member #39186) posted at 3:28 PM on Thursday, May 30th, 2013
I have also been riding my WH's case for the last few weeks and I can't stop myself. It just spews out of my mouth non-stop. I keep threatening him to get out of the house, he is still cheating, etc. Rather than arguing back he retreats so as to not prevent an escalation of the argument. I even screamed the other night I was so frustrated. This is not like me at all but after going through a shocked stage, crying stage and now I guess an anger stage I just don't know how to stop it. I know I could be creating an even bigger problem with our R b/c of my yelling, putting him down, etc. We had MC yesterday and we spent the better part of the hour discussing this. My H is just tired of getting yelled at by me. The MC explained that he needs to put himself in my shoes when responding but he can't do it when I am yelling b/c he wants nothing to do with me when I am like this. She told me that when I feel like I am going to start on one of my fits I need to walk away until I can calm myself down. I dont know how easy this will be but I think i will go run when I feel the urge to spew venom at him. Once I am calm then we are to discuss my concerns and he will then put himself in my shoes to try and understand what I am feeling. I know I want our marriage to work. I know he has stopped the EA and is doing what he can do to make it work. I dont want to make matters worse by being mean so I am going to use this approach. That was our homework assignment this week.
Searchingforhope ( member #38437) posted at 8:28 PM on Thursday, May 30th, 2013
But. I. am. still. so. SO. mad.!!! How long does this anger phase last?
My anger phase was really in full swing in months 3-8 from dday. After that they tapered off as I healed..My H had alot to do with my healing so it wasn't as "easy" to be so angry.
Don't get me wrong though..we still have arguements but, I don't use the "trump card" (as my H calls it)of the A anymore..
What really bothered me about my anger is how I hurt him...I would feel so remorseful afterwards. I realized I needed to control myself. I felt like a monster and I didn't like that at all.
But I think the anger phase is necessary...it's just learning how to be angry without doing damage.
Me: BW 51 at the time(didn't have a clue)
Him: FWH 54 at the time(extremely remorseful about his stupid midlife crisis)
Married 27 yrs at the time
DDAY 04/25/12
Working on R
PA Lasted 2 weeks. OW totally screwed up $@#%.
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