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Please bear with me, I'm a bit of a mess.

Last week I bit the bullet and bought a keylogger for WH's computer. Until this morning there's been really nothing of interest. But this morning I discovered he has another email address and there are four sent messages to OW, the most recent is dated April 19th, 2013, my dday was October 7, 2012.

Three of the four have no subject, or content, the other is a simple sentence that says "dinner and a movie on your next day off?"

There are no replies from her and nothing in the deleted folder.

I feel absolutely naseous and I'm not sure what my next step needs to be. I want to confront him but know it's not the smart thing to do, plus he's been a very sick with shingles the last few days.

My God this sucks.

My God this sucks.

I am so sorry for you.

plus he's been a very sick with shingles the last few days.

Sounds like karma is catching up with your WH. Shingles can be caused by stress, and having a secret double life can be very stressful.

I would be in stealth mode and try to collect more evidence. How about a VAR in his vehicle?

eta: (((((happierdays)))))

[This message edited by SisterMilkshake at 8:29 AM, June 4th (Tuesday)]

(((((happierdays)))))

I'm with Sister...Gather the evidence before they know you are on to them.

I ended a TT period by having enough evidence to almost build the story myself, but I just asked a few questions that indicated I had evidence and now was her time to come clean and see how the stories match.

But...I really had to fight the urge to confront at the first hint of a problem. Unfortunately I did that for the first DDay and really wish I had waited. Even with just a few more days, I could have had much more evidence.

Given the details of our situation, the evidence has helped some in R after TT, because it supports the story.

I'm so sorry. ((((happierdays))))

(((happierdays)))

I'm so sorry. I know how painful this is. My first DDay was in September 2012, my second, with same OW, was Feb. 2013. You couldn't have told me on DDay #1 that it was possible to feel more pain...until DDay #2.

I think you should try to gather more info. Just as your pain is compounded so is their determination to go underground. Is it possible that your H has a second phone? It sounds like their email communication is hit-and-miss and probably a backup form of communication when using a phone wasn't possible. Go ahead and get that VAR.

My other comment is that it sounds like it never ended. The email convo. was just so casual and familiar, not like they were reconnecting after a long time apart.

Again, I'm so sorry for your pain. You will get through this. Sending (((happierdays))) and strength.

Thank you guys!

I feel like I'm back at ground zero.

I agree with your thoughts noprincess, I don't think there was any break in their communication, though there's so little information in the messages that are there.

I need to somehow keep my wits about me and continue gathering, but how do you do it??

Are you and your WH still working on R after dday number two no princess?

I just don't know.

It's interesting that 3 of the 4 have no subject or content. That's weird. Do you think he was testing out the new email? Do you think maybe she has replied but he deleted it?

I would want to leave him with those shingles and make him suffer alone. I just couldn't play the sweet nurse maid role.

Big hugs! This is so tough.

((((happierdays))))

It's interesting that 3 of the 4 have no subject or content.

That is odd. It could be tests, or it could be a pre-arranged notice to meet. Sort of like calling and letting the phone ring twice, but not actually picking up. No specific audit trail and easily lied away as there was "nothing to it".

It's not an uncommon practice for the cheaters to create an email account that they BOTH have access to, then they create draft emails and just save it to the draft folder, not sending it. Then the other person later gets into the email, reads the draft, deletes it and creates their own draft and saves it.

This way, if anyone DOES find the email address, there are very few, if any, emails that have ever been sent or received. Makes it easy to say "it's just a spam email I use to sign up for xyz".

I'm so sorry he's still involved with her. Does she have a BS? Does that BS know?

What you need to concentrate on now is not how/when do you confront him, but what are the consequences going to be? It makes little sense to confront him if you are just going to be angry but not give him an ultimatum or his walking papers.

Start writing out your strategy; perhaps even contact a few attorneys to see what your options are. Do not go into this blindly. Put on your bitch boots and get ready to stomp. You do have the power.

Don't confront him yet, wait until you are in a position of strength to do so. Look for that second phone, install the VAR. Get your financial house in order, check and photocopy bank statements, credit card statements, income tax returns, income tax returns, pay stubs etc. Put all of these in a safe place. If there is a second phone, the statements may confirm it. Set some money aside, seek some legal advice and retain counsel.

Sending you strength and hugs.

I was thinking the same thing as Sistermilkshake...shingles...stress.

My ws had 2 trips to ER because he thought he was having a heart attack due to anxiety of a double life. It takes a toll on us for sure...however they aren't always exempt from it.

I'm so sorry you had to fond this new info but now you know and don't have to wonder. Still u know, its like a

kick in the stomach. Take care of yourself...your priority right now.

what are the consequences going to be? It makes little sense to confront him if you are just going to be angry but not give him an ultimatum or his walking papers.

THIS. And practice it in your head. Remember, you don't have to have an answer to every objection he makes. Have your two sentences ready and repeat them over and over.

"I know you are still cheating on me. Your clothes are on the porch."

What, what do you mean?

"I know you are still cheating on me. Your clothes are on the porch."

I don't know what you are talking about.

"I know you are still cheating on me. Your clothes are on the porch."

We're just friends. I had to make sure she was OK!

"I know you are still cheating on me. Your clothes are on the porch."

What a brutal day yesterday was. I ended up leaving work mid-morning and driving home to confront WH. I just kept thinking, what more proof do I need? Of course he denied everything until I opened the email account. Turns out HE was fishing to see if he could get a response from OW, but never did.

I feel hurt to my core. I'm still in limbo about what to do, I told him after dday 1 that if it happened again our marriage was done, but here I am wavering. I did tell him I want him to have a lie detector test before deciding if I stay or go and I plan on speaking with a divorce lawyer so I know what my options are.

He of course wouldn't give me an explanation why he did it again aside from "just another poor choice."

"just another poor choice."

I call bull shit.

Gently, I agree with I think I can. How much is too much? Only you can answer that, but I would put money on the fact it wasn't just a "poor choice". It was deliberate and with intent. I hate playing the "what if" game, but what do you think would have happened had she responded?

I told him after dday 1 that if it happened again our marriage was done, but here I am wavering.

I know this is kind of along the lines of "I thought this would be a dealbreaker for me until I experienced it", but you drew a line in the sand and he deliberatly crossed it, either knowing you'd end your M or deliberatly crossed it because he knew you wouldn't follow through with the consequences.

You have some serious soul-searching to do, happierdays. If you let him off the hook on what was a very clear boundary, he will continue to step over any lines you draw in the future and you will be open for more hurt.

I totally agree with you FeelsSoRight, I already feel like a fool for being duped by him again.

I've good my first EMDR therapy session booked for next Monday, I really hope I can get myself sorted around again without too much of a backslide.

The main thought I haven't been able to escape all day is he knew how much devastation the first dday cause, yet he did it again. That's the part that will be the deal breaker. I feel like he's got zero respect for me or our little family.

On top of that I'm so sick of crying it's not even funny.