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User Topic: Long Term Affairs - Part 32
atsenaotie
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Default  Posted: 12:54 PM, July 3rd (Wednesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

honest, I am taking off my lecture cap, and just a friendly arm around your shoulder.

Detach. 180.

Arguing with NPD is like arguing with a Yatzee cup to roll all sixes. Sure you get what you want once in a blue moon, but that is random chance, not anything you did or did nit do.

I get it. I get sucked in with FWW thinking this will be the time. Eventually you, dip, and the others come save me from my folly.

He will never be reliable. He will never have empathy. He will never sacrifice to take care of you. If he does do any of these things, look for the ulterior motive.

FWIW, as you all tell me, he does not do these things on purpose with the intention of hurting you. It is just how he is miss-wired inside.

((honest))


LTA BS 53
FWW 60
M 1990, dday 10-5-09
Reconciled

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7yrsflushed
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Default  Posted: 2:24 PM, July 3rd (Wednesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

What old dipstick and ATS said. (((honest)))


D-day 5/24/11
BH = Me
STBXWW = Her
2 children
The first true sense of calm I felt in YEARS was when I filed for D...
Separated 6/2013, D official around 6/2014

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ImNellNow
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Default  Posted: 2:35 PM, July 3rd (Wednesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Trust,
How are you feeling today? I'm sending you healing thoughts... body and mind.

honest,
I think dip and ats summed it up pretty well: He's an asshole fucker Yatzee cup. I'm sending him third world jail thoughts.

miracle,
How'd the 2nd interview go?

That's all I've got time to say. I'm reading along but my brain is too full to remember anything! Bugging in and out, catching up on work before 4th of July.

Hugs all around!
-Nell


BS & D
Drinking wine and thinking bliss is on the other side of this.

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forgivenotforget
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Default  Posted: 9:04 PM, July 3rd (Wednesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Today he tells me that the OC's aren't coming to meet the DS's. He wants peace of mind. Doesn't know when he'll come here.
. . . Geez, what an ass!! It's like he's punishing me that the kids don't meet???

Honest - There are so many things about this that make me furious for you. First, he is the asshole who brought these OC here knowing full well how hurtful it would be to you and to your sons. He is the one who wanted them all to meet - do your sons even want to get together with them?? Do you want them all to meet?? Do you care if they never get to meet?? How hard is this on your children? Has he even once asked what they are feeling?? what you are feeling??

And then he has the audacity to tell you he "wants peace of mind." What about your peace of mind??? When was the last time your mind was at peace??? Does he care that you haven't had peace of mind for years?? Fuck his peace of mind!! Don't let him confuse you with his twisted thinking. There are only 3 people whose peace of mind should matter to you right now - your 2 sons and yourself above all. He is making you sick and I worry about the long-term effects of this extremely stressful situation on your health and sanity. Please, please, please focus on your needs, your peace of mind and your sons well being. He chose to bring them here and its too fucking bad that they have to stay in a hotel. This is his doing only!!

He is trying to make you feel guilty that the children don't meet. Unbelievable!! Please see this for what it is - total and absolute manipulation and his attempt to get you to concede.

How long will they be here?? Is there any way you can get your two older boys to stand up for you if you feel you can not do it for yourself? If your WH tells you he plans to bring them to your home, would your sons agree to come and stand with you while you turn them away?? I know those OC are innocent victims in all this but as I said earlier, this is your sacred place and you need to protect it for your own sanity.

Don't let him wear you down. He is working very hard to do just that. Whatever you need to do to stay strong, whoever can help you to stay strong and whatever we can do to help you, never forget that your peace of mind and your needs must come first because as you said, you must be your own "knight in shining armor." He has proven time and time again that he is the ultimate narcissist - he only cares about himself. Your energies should only be focused on those who truly care for and love you - don't waste another minute worrying about what that selfish excuse of a H has to say. He doesn't deserve you.

((((((((((Honest))))))))


D-day - 12/23/05 LTA - 8 years.
"Love's a matter of trust and I just want to believe in us." M McBride

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honesttoafault
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Default  Posted: 6:24 AM, July 4th (Thursday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Thank you everyone.

NPD had the audacity to bring the OW and the OC's to the beach were DS18 was working as a lifeguard.

NPD lies to me and says he ran into DS by chance and thought he worked at another beach. It's on my Facebook page for God's sake!!

I don't even want to bother calling him out on his lie, it's just another circular conversation and argument. What do you do when someone blatantly lies like that? All he'll do is make up excuses and stick to it.

Yes, FnF, I feel like I'm getting physically ill with this.I'm trying to keep busy, doing laps in the pool, see people, but it's like DDay.

It is my real DDay because I can't hide from the truth anymore. I can't be in denial anymore.

I didn't want to go overseas because I knew I couldn't handle it, so he had to bring it over here. And the way he's handling this situation is horrible.

The anger is simmering and ready to burst and I'm afraid of it. I'm afraid that I'm going to be like the Hulk and create havoc and say horrible things to everyone and in the end I'll be the one who suffers.

Sorry for the rant.


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atsenaotie
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Default  Posted: 9:55 AM, July 4th (Thursday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

((honest))

good job so far honest, keep yourself centered, control what you can, let the rest flow by

step back and observe it


LTA BS 53
FWW 60
M 1990, dday 10-5-09
Reconciled

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honesttoafault
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Default  Posted: 10:05 AM, July 4th (Thursday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Thank you Ats, but how? Geez, I didn't feel like this at DDay, I just was super depressed and crying all the time.

Now, my heart is racing, I feel sick, I can't focus. The rage is simmering.

Wow.


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njgal480
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Default  Posted: 2:02 PM, July 4th (Thursday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

honest- anger is good in cases like this.
There's a great post in General I think about putting on your Bitchboots.
Think of it as your own personal Independence day.


Me- BS
Him- WH
Long term marriage
D-day- Jan. 2007
5 yr. LTA
Reconciled.


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DecimatedHeart
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Default  Posted: 8:19 AM, July 5th (Friday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Honest - It's official. Your WH is an even bigger a$$ than mine. I can't believe how he tried to manipulate/guilt trip you with that 'killing them' comment, and showing up at DS's place of work with OW and OCs?! What he has put you through this past week has been horrific, and I want more than anything to give you a ((hug)).

I agree with the others - there has to be legal ramifications to what he is doing. Have you spoken to an attorney? How long are they here?

I know finances are an issue, but please consider drawing up a plan to get yourself out of this situation. Even if, like me, you are still holding onto a sliver of hope.

I saw this the other day and thought of the tribe (It fits me currently, I think):

It is bitter irony to see people who can't let go of someone or something for fear of emptiness in their life and yet their spirits are wasting away because they choose to hold on. Dodinsky

Has anyone heard from Trust? I have been praying her brother is a match.

As for me - I texted my sister yesterday that there may be an utter lack of human kindness, but there are poolside mojitos. That about sums it up lol.

[This message edited by DecimatedHeart at 9:30 AM, July 5th (Friday)]


Me, BS 41
Him WH 42 - LTA, EA/PA
Together 24 years
DD13 - the love of my life
DDay#1 11/10/2012
DDay#4 4/5/2013 (NC broken AGAIN)
A supposedly over 6/14/2013

All my posts are edited - I hate typos. :)


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honesttoafault
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Default  Posted: 12:15 PM, July 5th (Friday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

It is bitter irony to see people who can't let go of someone or something for fear of emptiness in their life and yet their spirits are wasting away because they choose to hold on. Dodinsky

That's a good quote.

Perhaps I do feel that, but I'm just plain afraid of loss of what I have left.

NPD calls me yesterday and says he's coming over in 15 minutes with his aunt. Turns up without her and said he said he was coming from the aunt's. Stayed for a bit, mostly on the phone.

The good and bad: one cousin invited him to his house and that upset me and NPD gets all mad. It seems that ALL of his cousins and aunt (that's 6 cousins and families) refuse to have him over with OW and OC's. He says to me that they are boycotting him!!

He tells me that he's leaving the poor OW and OC's alone in the hotel room, that he has to concentrate on them and when they go home he'll be here. "Don't expect me to call you everyday" and telling me how he's only human and she's yelling at him and I'm yelling at him.

It seems that OW doesn't want the OC's to come to my house.

I'm so overdone. He'll listen to her, not me.

No respect.
Nothing.
He made his choice
And so have I

My heart is racing like crazy I don't know what the best next step is.

Originally I had decided to put together a separation agreement and give it to him after Christmas to buy myself some time to get a job.

I know I had a lot of time to do these things, but looking back, I realize that between my depression, my mother going into a nursing home and going through her stuff ALONE, her going in the hospital and all the crap from NPD, raising kids on my own, etc, I couldn't do it. I was just able to survive.

I am lucky to be alive, especially because of all of you wonderful people.

I had a lot of suicidal ideation over the past few years, deep depression, sometimes just plain suicidal.

I'm still trying to deal with an ocean of emotions and not let them overwhelm me.

I want to be practical.

Some of you ask if I've seen a lawyer. I've seen many lawyers. One out right refused to take my case.

There is nothing legally I can do to NPD right now with OW and OC's here. He is not legally married to her here, he is legally married to both of us in his country.

Thank you all. I'm sorry for taking up the boards with all of this. DS33 was yelling at me yesterday about all of this. Yes, I was looking for help before, perhaps comfort to keep going, but now I need support as to what my next steps are. DS33 thinks I can just kick NPD out, but I'd have to file, and because of the sitch, filing for D is not the best idea right now. Anyway, then he can marry OW legally here and I don't wnat to do that right now.

She is not going to get everything from me.

I have to fight for me and my kids.

[This message edited by honesttoafault at 12:32 PM, July 5th (Friday)]


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iwantamiracle
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Default  Posted: 12:54 PM, July 5th (Friday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

(((((honest)))))

listen hon....its time...NOW is the time...get the agreement in writing now...not later but now...

you are out of time.....its not on your side anymore and truthfully its just not worth it anymore...

give that poor excuse of a man his walking papers...

You have already lost him, you never really had him...like pfm his head was never 100% in it......his heart is full of himself...and for now this ow does it for him...but not for long...he is not the type to be happy with anyone....loves his ego waaaayyyy toooo much im thinkin

he made his choice years ago....and his choice is to have it all, including YOU.....and if this is what you want then go for it...but we all know that is furthest thing from what you want or signed up for...

as ats and dip both said...you cannot listen to him....you cant make sense of nonsense, so stop trying....

he is so damned smooth..he is pulling out all the stops to manipulate you, even telling you about his family "boycotting" him....every word that leaves his mouth is a manipulation...EVERY WORD!!!!

stay strong honest, i know you can do this....you need to set your mind, if you set your mind.....decide, choose and commit as per hufi......


miracle house update:

we had a huge 4th of july party yesterday to celebrate scrawny boys graduation....more the 50 teens (16 through 21 yrs old) in my yard....i am happy to say the party was a success, the only complaint about these kids is that they were slobs....there was no violence, there was minimal drinking for the over 21 and the younger ones didnt even attempt it....they came at 1 in the afternoon and stayed til midnight....i am exhausted...

in the am before we started pfm looked at me and said "hon, do you think you could forgive me and give me a chance to prove how sorry i am"

i just walked away...hell if you were sorry, truly sorry for what you did to me you would have already proved it by stepping up and stepping back, and put it in writing that when we finally separate you will do right for me and the kids....that is what you do when you are a man of integrity...but alas..no integrity in him.....

pfm...would like to meet mr honest and maybe the 2 of you could go off to bin laden land together.....and fuck your 100 virgins in bin laden heaven....


and btw ats...miracle is not looking for pfm to come through....nope, nope and nope!!!


((((honest)))) stay strong dear heart, stay strong



i am taking my life back, one step at a time!!!!!

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atsenaotie
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Default  Posted: 1:18 PM, July 5th (Friday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

"hon, do you think you could forgive me and give me a chance to prove how sorry i am"

cart before horse

"Don't expect me to call you everyday"

promises, promises

honest, I do not know the answer to your sich, I am not there. I do encourage you to do something different than you have done.

Anyway, then he can marry OW legally here and I don't wnat to do that right now.

Does he want to M OW in the US? If so, can you use that as leverage to get a good separation agreement?

Poor NPD. honest, OW, 6 cousings, and an aunt all disagree with him. How could they all be wrong and he be the only one who is right?

dip, if you are lurking I did boat grilling yesterday. Boneless rib-eye steak (yes, I did custom cut them, thank you) on the magma grill while anchored off the beach to watch fireworks. From the beach we can watch all the community shows up and down the coast, plus all the people shooting off their own.


LTA BS 53
FWW 60
M 1990, dday 10-5-09
Reconciled

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7yrsflushed
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Default  Posted: 1:42 PM, July 5th (Friday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

DS33 thinks I can just kick NPD out, but I'd have to file, and because of the sitch, filing for D is not the best idea right now. Anyway, then he can marry OW legally here and I don't wnat to do that right now.
Respectfully, I ask, why is filing for D not the best idea right now? If your response is because he can marry OW if you file then again respectfully, that is clinging on to something that is already gone. He isn't married to you now. Legally maybe, but he IS spending time between you and his OTHER family in a hotel room. Whether he marries her in the US or not isn't the important point. The important point is freeing yourself from this person that is literally sucking the life out of you.

She is not going to get everything from me.
It was never a competition and if you want to look at it that way then what is she winning, the right to marry the "God of Douchebags". Sorry, but he is, he really is.

I have to fight for me and my kids.

Again respectfully what are you fighting for and against. IMO, your opponent isn't the OW or your WH. At the moment you are in a battle with fear and yourself. You fight for you and your kids by detaching from toxic people and moving on to better things. You overcome fear by taking the fight to a real and tangible battle field called divorce court. Filing for D takes all of the images, scenarios, random thoughts about what might be happening out of your head and puts reality squarely in front of you. Tangible documents, questionaires, discussions, meetings to discuss your current situation and your future. That is a battle that you can win and it's a tangible win at that.

It seems that OW doesn't want the OC's to come to my house.

I'm so overdone. He'll listen to her, not me.

Again, this isn't a competition between you and OW. That is what he wants both of you to think. Right now he has 2 woman fighting ,although not physically, over him. If this was a game you don't want to win this one. The winner gets to keep a lying, cheating, and plain old not very nice person. Stop competing and take yourself out of the game.

You told me many times to detach and 180. When you and others told me that you were right. It helps greatly. Keep at it and you will be able to channel all the anger and anxiety into productive action to get you out of your situation. Keep at it Honest, I am drinking several beers in your honor tonight in the sincere hope that you will be out of this mess soon. It's peaceful on the other side. My unremorseful STBX still doesn't get it but I don't care. Join me in drinking that big ole can of "I don't give a "F" juice" and free yourself from his stupidity. I promise the grass is greener over here and it smells better too.


at IWAM and the sorry story. I think I am actually emotionally allergic to my STBXW. Ever since she moved out, every single time I am around her I get irritated and start getting mad. As soon as I drop the kids off or she leaves I am back to normal. Yep, sounds like the release of histamines in my blood stream to me. I need to invent some allergy medicine for WS's. Instead of bendryl maybe benbetrayd or something.

Hope everyone had a safe and fun 4th of July. Have a great weekend.

[This message edited by 7yrsflushed at 1:45 PM, July 5th (Friday)]


D-day 5/24/11
BH = Me
STBXWW = Her
2 children
The first true sense of calm I felt in YEARS was when I filed for D...
Separated 6/2013, D official around 6/2014

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honesttoafault
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Default  Posted: 1:49 PM, July 5th (Friday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Poor NPD. honest, OW, 6 cousings, and an aunt all disagree with him. How could they all be wrong and he be the only one who is right?

Thank you Ats!! I needed to see that in writing. WOW. I have to make that my mantra whenever I question myself. Strangely, I should be a bitch like OW and just put my foot down and let NPD have his temper tantrums.
I'm glad you enjoyed your Fourth. It sounded like fun.

Miracle: Wow! What a party. You really must be exhausted!

"hon, do you think you could forgive me and give me a chance to prove how sorry i am"

I'm so sorry, Miracle. He had his chance. Somehow, I wish he could do all those things you wanted and be able to really change. Really change and not just outwardly.

gotta run be back later. NPD just showed up without calling.


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iwantamiracle
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Default  Posted: 2:19 PM, July 5th (Friday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

OMG honest...nothing to be sorry about....

i honestly walked away shakin my head.....i find so much of it funny now....he was actually mad too later one...i got one word answers with attitude...we had so much to prepare....in addition to the 50 teens on my kids lists we had 41 peeps on ours...altogether we counted about 80ish peeps yesterday with the majority of them between 16 and 21....

anyways...he had 1 word answers and at one point i asked him something...cannot even remember what it was and he snapped at me not to "attack him"....

and i really find it amusing....after 20+ years of being attacked by him and the inlaws.....after everything he has done...i shouldn't attack him but forgive him and let him show me how sorry he is... and at the same time of course

he really is pitififul.....he is remorseful without the substance

he is attentive without the substance

he is sorry without integrity

he is a whole lot of air.....so much talk without anything to back it up....

he lies, i catch him and he wants to know what lies so he can explain

and when finally conceeds that he lied, he comes out with..."you think you are going to find someone out there who doesn't lie, everyone lies"

when you list all of the things he says and does, it is just sad and amusing...

i am so past it all

and yet i do see a future of us being friendly (WITHOUT BENEFITS)...something else he had asked for btw...

enuf bout me and pfm

honest....7yrs (i think it was 7yrs) had an amazing point....if he does want to marry ow here in the states....that gives you leverage....you could use it to negotiate....

seriously at this point why do you care if that is what he wants....you need to get what YOU ultimately WANT...which is YOUR FREEDOM and FINANCIAL HELP...so use what he wants to get what you want....

ultimately he will do what he wants anyway, he already does...so use it for YOUR GAIN.....

what 7years said is so on the money...its not a competition.....i understand you want her to suffer, you want her to "lose".....she loves him....and thats already a huge loss, because he is incapable of loving anyone with sincerity....she already has him as do you...he wants it all....if he wants to marry her here in the states to give her citizenship....use it for leverage....USE HIM, he is already using you.....so turn it around and use him, get what you want, especially your freedom.....its so past time for you dear heart....so past time....

start fighting for yourself and your boys...


(((honest)))


i am taking my life back, one step at a time!!!!!

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njgal480
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Default  Posted: 2:48 PM, July 5th (Friday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

honest-
it's time to get off the crazy train.
There are no guarantees in life.
If you file for divorce NPD may not give you or your DS a penny.

He has all of the finances hidden abroad anyway and you've said that he mortgaged the house without your knowledge and there is no equity left there too.

There is no money to fight for.

If he chooses to become a dead beat dad and not help your DS -then that's on him.

He will have to live with the fall out from that decision.

My guess is that your DS will really have no reason to ever be in contact with him.

But... I see the divorce as giving you peace of mind and a chance to get your life back.

A chance for a new beginning.

I know that your older boys love you and care about you.

They would never let you or the younger boys be homeless.

Sleeping on the couch in your older DS' home is better than being held hostage by the NPD and now the OW and OC.

Your home is no longer your home or safe sanctuary if the NPD parades in out like this.

You raised some wonderful, caring, hard working, giving young men.

Let them give back to you now and let them help you out during this difficult time.

Don't worry about getting that dream job right now.

Just focus on getting away from the NPD both physically and mentally.

He has such a toxic and unhealthy hold on you.

I understand it from my experiences with my BPD mother.

I had to physically get away from her for my own sanity and peace of mind.

Ever since d-day I now surround myself only with people that love and care about me.

I steer clear of any toxic, negative people.

That is what you need to do.
And the NPD is the most toxic person in your life right now.

His actions show what he wants.
He wants the OW and OC.
Let him have them and let him go.

You will feel such a sense of peace when you are finally rid of him.

Trust your sons. Turn to them right now.


Me- BS
Him- WH
Long term marriage
D-day- Jan. 2007
5 yr. LTA
Reconciled.


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honesttoafault
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Default  Posted: 10:44 PM, July 5th (Friday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

7yrs: I think we were cross posting.
The main reason D is not a good idea and a separation agreement would be better is because with a D, a judge would look at the finances that show, and there is nothing, I mean nothing. All his $ is overseas and a few lawyers told me it would probably take over $10,000 + to prove that and then to get it? Can't be done or enforced.

With a separation agreement, it would be what WE agree on, so I have a better chance.

When I said about the OW getting everything, she already took over my house overseas and my beach house including all my possession, using my perfume, wearing my clothes, sleeping in my bed. I don't want her to have my home here.
In addition, NPD took a home equity loan over the price of the house which includes the thousands of dollars I put down on the house, in addition, over the years, I lent him $35,000. He was always pleading poverty, bad business etc and now a bad sitch in his country that makes it hard to repay me. I was hoping to get some of that money back.

If I D, I will get NOTHING. The judge will look at what's on the tax returns and give me practically nothing.

I've been D before. Hell, I wrote the separation agreement myself, by myself and just had the lawyers legalize it.

I have survived on my own all this time. I don't need him, except financially, and yes, I do get sucked in all the time. He is NPD. He can get these NPD rages and do all kinds of things. I've seen him in action with other people and suing them, bringing them to court and making their lives miserable.

I'm ready to D, but am thinking if it might be more practical to get a post nup signed right now and wait it out until after Christmas to get a job and get my ducks more in a row than get a separation agreement.

Again respectfully what are you fighting for and against. IMO, your opponent isn't the OW or your WH. At the moment you are in a battle with fear and yourself. You fight for you and your kids by detaching from toxic people and moving on to better things

Thank you. You are right, for a while I felt I was in a competition with OW, feeling like she was better than me....It's a hard thing to overcome.
But what you said that I'm in a battle with myself is more on target.

I can't thank you enough for your time and your wonderful insights.

As NJgal said, being around a NPD and a BPD like my mother has sucked me so dry that I don't even trust myself anymore. DS 33 said, "What happened to my mother who used to have balls?" I was strong with my kids.

I am really seeing that the combo of the emotional abuse between my mother and NPD had done a number on me.

I have to give up on trying to make sense with him. About What he said that I shouldn't expect him to call everyday, it's because he doesn't want to be told what to do. When I said I wasn't telling him that, but it hurts if he doesn't, He starts going off on double speak about doing things because of how I feel and not feeling like one is forced to do it and that's not the way relationships are supposed to be, blah blah blah and circular to the point that I end up just blocking it out.

He is toxic. I need to be out. I just have to figure out the most practical way with the least possible damage.

I can't thank you all enough. I'm so sorry for taking up the boards with this shit again.


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Default  Posted: 11:02 PM, July 5th (Friday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Hello to all -

Just want to let you know the Karma bus finally arrived in my neck of the woods. Actually, it's more like a Karma minivan:

To those who dont know me OW was a police officer that worked with my ex - they carried on an affair while I was pregnant with our 4th child & while I was representing OW in her divorce.

Good stuff.
Anyhoo -
I knew she had got brought up on charges about a year ago - & this week they determined she would lose more than a year's worth of vacation days & be on probation because of it. Nice little news article about her too, including past charges brought against her that were brushed over.

What a piece of work.

Thought I would share with the only people I know can understand my delight in this.

I sent the Karma minivan driver back out - hope one of your ex's/OW's are next!

[This message edited by Allgoodnamesgone at 11:05 PM, July 5th (Friday)]


Me- BS
DDay- 8/26/09
Separated after failed R effort.

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Allgood: Good News!! I always love to see the Karma come around!!! It also is another proof for that popular thread in general "They always affair down"

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yay allgood....love that karma mini van....


honest....read your last post....you are a mass of contradiction....you miss him when he doesn't call but you are ready to divorce his ass, financially he is broke, but he owes you money.....

you are hurt when he calls her....

well, i am sorry hon, but he is going to call her, he is not getting rid of her, you are better off if he doesn't call, the longer you go without speaking the stronger you become....

he is broke, he cries poverty...well thats probably not going to change and you will probably never get your money back...its time for you to "accept" the facts....not opinions, but facts.....

i am sorry if i am being harsh...i just get so damned mad for you....he makes pfm look like a dreamboat.....and i know you know that pfm is far far far away from being any kind of dreamboat....

please dear heart....find your balls, and take that bull by the horns and throw his ass across town, like yesterday....get the papers in order BEFORE he goes back and have him sign them.....now while you have the leverage, while he still wants some kind of approval from you.....


(((honest)))


i am taking my life back, one step at a time!!!!!

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