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User Topic: Please help...how do I deal with this??
BFFGone
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Default  Posted: 4:17 PM, July 3rd (Wednesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

In the aftermath of my DDay 5 months ago, the wagons circled as my best friends and mom rushed to help me.
Well...my mom is (was) my dear friend. She is going through her own personal traumas right now (major lifestyle change, health issues). She basically got on the phone the day after my DDay and told EVERYONE my situation. Family in Europe, friends of hers I barely know, my ENTIRE family...everyone. Through my own therapy, I have developed boundaries to protect myself in my relationship with her...but I still am really struggling. I've confronted her, and she pulls the whole narcissistic mother crap and makes it all about her.
Family gatherings are insanely painful, as everyone regards my husband and I like explosives that they don't know how to handle.
Then she had the audacity to tell me yesterday that she misses the "old me". Let me clarify, that even though everyone and their hairdresser knows my life story...NO ONE (with the exception of my best friends) has checked in on me, called me, or offered any support....including my mom.
In those first weeks, it felt like my "ever so close" family had left me out to rot. It still feels that way. I don't know if I will ever be authentic in those roles (daughter, aunt, sister) EVER again.
It feels like I am grieving the loss of my marriage as I knew it AND my family as I knew it.
Both hurt.
Anyone else ever deal with this?
Anyone ever just SICK of this being the life that got chosen for us?
Thanks for letting me rant. Today is a bad day


I choose to thrive. I choose to be happy.

That which doesn't kill me makes me stronger...but damn, aren't I strong enough yet???


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PinkJeepLady
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Default  Posted: 4:39 PM, July 3rd (Wednesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

(((BFF)))
So sorry for your frustration! I shared the cheating with 2 sisters and 2 friends from childhood. They have been supportive but I do notice they don't ask anymore how I am. I am sure they care, I think it's more of they don't know exactly what to say? I also think they don't want to bring it up in case it would upset me more.
My experience is that people who care and love you want to show respect, but not make it worse for you. Maybe you will need to let people know it's ok to talk about. Also, the older generation sometimes do not think it polite to bring up "personal issues". Your friends and family may be trying to give you guys time and privacy to work it out?
Can you just come out and say "hey I need you right now!" Usually people who love you will be glad to know just what you need and want.
Take care!


Me: BW-54. Him-FWH 54. DDay June 1st 2012 cheating with prostitutes overseas
R-ing
"Not everything that counts is counted. Not everything that is counted counts." Albert Einstein

Posts: 496 | Registered: Nov 2012 | From: Out West
JustWow
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Default  Posted: 4:40 PM, July 3rd (Wednesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Sorry to hear that BFFGone, and I'll sit on the bench and bitch about it all with ya

I was raised on the myth of "your family is all you will know you always have" and "family is always there for each other", blah bla blah.

Turns out it really meant that *I* was supposed to be there for everyone all the time and require nothing from them. We, too, were lepers following dday. I had always "been there" - way, way, way too much for my family. They missed the old me who catered to all their problems and held their sorry heads up when they needed it. I needed to snap out of my pity party and get back to the business of doing their bidding.

At first it was bewildering and hurtful. Luckily, I had never found myself in the situation of needing much, but WOW - I got nothing from them. I felt hurt, abandoned, mad....you name it.

IC helped a lot. Processing it. I lost the faily I thought I had, and the one I really had wasn't very appealing in the light of day. Lots of boundaries work and greiving followed.

I hear ya. BTDT. Have the t- shirt and use it as a dish-rag.

((((BFFG)))))

[This message edited by JustWow at 4:41 PM, July 3rd (Wednesday)]


BW - Reconciling

edited for typos (I always have to!)


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BFFGone
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Default  Posted: 4:52 PM, July 3rd (Wednesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Thanks guys, it's quite overwhelming.

JustWOW, you basically nailed it....my story to a T. I have been the unofficial matriarch of my family...doing everything for everyone, never asking for anything in return. IC is helping me to see the "fallacy" in my view of my family. How I valued myself in relation to how I served everyone else. That was truly a habit that I needed to get rid of, in my marriage and in every other relationship.
Had a baby shower at my moms house last Sunday. Old me would of micromanaged the shit out of that party. I didn't. I let everyone else run around, and the lack of organization and tension on their part was palpable because I didn't engage like I used to.
Felt oddly vindicating :)
Still feel like a leper...great analogy. People feel sorry for us, but don't want to get too close because of the "icky" factor.


I choose to thrive. I choose to be happy.

That which doesn't kill me makes me stronger...but damn, aren't I strong enough yet???


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Reality
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Default  Posted: 5:08 PM, July 3rd (Wednesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Here's another hand raised, BFF. It's the same for me.

My mom told me she was sick of me "wasting time on (husband) when she needed me to be helping (list of sister in laws, cousins, grandparents, etc)" and she also missed the "old me."

If I talk to her about my situation, she gets angry and tosses her hair about how I'm not dealing with it like she wants me to. What she wants is a moving target: I'm either too patient or too impulsive; I'm too organized or I'm ignoring my responsibilities; my kids are too attached to me or the kids are too independent, etc.

So yeah, me, too. Your IC is spot on. I've found my best short cut with her (and people like her) is to limit what "say" she thinks she has and then to say a lot of "Hey, Mom, that idea you had? (Insert a decision I had made that I know she's going to be contentious about, but phrase it like she came up with it) You were so right! Thank you for helping me with that." She preens, I smile, and no Insta-Mom-Roadblock.

Hugs. You know your Mom. You know what to rely on and what not to. We're with you.


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JustWow
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Default  Posted: 5:31 PM, July 3rd (Wednesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

The good part is, now that you recognize it, and get comfy with some new boundaries with them, you're going to get a lot of free time on your hands.

You're going to find out what it feels like to be a guest at someone else's holiday gathering instead of being the scullery maid. You are going to be much calmer and happier.

They are going to fight it like crazy for a while, if they're like my family. The thing with disfunction is that it likes to keep its equilibrium. You have now upset the applecart. This is going to make them resent the new you, that is okay so long as you like her. But the other thing that will happen is that without your buffer/diplomacy/catering, they are also going to see each other's warts in a whole new light and the whole dynamic is likely to change.

It is like the disfunction gets a megaphone. In our family my mom got psycho, my sister's alcoholism blew up and she became violent - still is - my distant brothers becam more distant.....

So much for the Brady Bunch. We never were. This aint pretty, but this is real. And it isn't mine to fix, Our little famiily is mine to worry about. The rest of these people are supposed to be adults.

Only children and animals can be neglected, adults are supposed to be able to take care of themselves.

It has been quite a journey. It has been 7 years, and I guess we're used to the new normal, restraining orders and all


BW - Reconciling

edited for typos (I always have to!)


Posts: 3637 | Registered: May 2008 | From: Midwest
Gipper
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Default  Posted: 7:53 PM, July 3rd (Wednesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Sadly, it seems that the people on here are the only ones who really get it. Friends and family can be supportive, but IMO you can't really get the totality of what this does if you haven't gone through it. Thank God for the people here and this site

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Ashland13
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Default  Posted: 8:33 PM, July 3rd (Wednesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Yes, this is some of what I live now. Except that I over-told the story, but it was because STBX was working so hard to sell me down the river and take life as I knew it away.

I have an extremely narcissistic mother and can tell you, it's terrible to deal with. The only bright spot in all of it is finally knowing why I could never please her as a child and some other missing pieces.

I don't favor swearing, but "b. boots" aren't just for WS, they are also for other "relationships".

Part of this process with STBX has helped me to stand up to others and also, to not accept guilt when someone is disappointed or not getting their way. Right there, I think, is a golden key to a narcissistic parent and it's interesting that I hear it with mothers more.

I am still having a feeling of coming down from a rush of emotion after being told off by my mother because I had to say no to something she wanted. My father got it for his married life and now it is me because we're the ones who plan and have boundaries...NG (Narcissistic Grandma) can't stand that.

Anyway...I think the boundaries will be good for you, BFF, and working on how to not be guilty after a narcissistic storm is one of the most empowering feelings in the universe.

As you say, no one checks in on me either and in fact, IL's are having fights over me now and so I am backing away and having another part of life torn away from me.

I had IL's snub me about five times the last six months and one is the godmother of our child. The pain from that I cannot ever forget, or let myself be ever put in that place again.

One or two check up on me but rarely and they know the truth of all that STBX did-"the Snubbers" do not, for STBX got to them with the lies and no one has corrected it.

Just last week I was able to correct some of STBX's lies to another IL and she cried fresh tears for me, DD and baby to be when she learned the real truth of what one of their own had done.

Still another agreed with me for outing him again, because if he could turn on us, couldn't he do it to one of them? He's already done the lying with them.

So anyway...yes, I feel your pain and have much empathy. I think of IL's as a kind of species all their own.

My own family, FWIW to tell, knew of the A and did not tell me-no one of them. My mother told me when I accepted STBX back and would give me no peace until she told her piece. It was awful.

Both STBX and NG are narcissistic and compete with each other and it is full blown now. To the point of having to hear, "who gets to be in the delivery room?" Ugg.

I wish you well and I wish you peace and hope you will figure out how to handle your NM. (Narcissistic Mother).

P.S. I find myself having very little contact with mine because of how she handles life and my situation and how she grandparents. And I'm having trouble just forgiving every storm now...do you KWIM?


Ashland 13

You gave me nothing and now it's all I've got - Bono

A person is a person, no matter how small. -Dr. Suess

Perserverance and spirit have done wonders in all ages.

-George Washington


Posts: 2306 | Registered: Feb 2013 | From: New England
Jospehine85
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Default  Posted: 8:43 PM, July 3rd (Wednesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I am sure some people abandon you because they are toxic.

But I am going to guess that there are a lot of people who avoid mentioning because it was your mom who told them about it. They may feel she overstepped herself telling them or they may feel uncomfortable bringing it up if you don't.

I have known acquaintances who have been cheated on by their spouse. I did not bring it up unless they were talking about it. I certainly didn't call them up and ask about them. I felt it would be like vultures circling. I didn't want them to think I was calling for the gossip.

Just a thought.


Me - BS 40s
WH - 50s
4 Kids
Dday May 2012

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