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jrc1963
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Default  Posted: 12:57 PM, July 11th (Thursday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

If someone has a problem with Rx pain pills?

I was just talking to my ex... apparently his live-in girlfriend is always in pain. She's always in bed whenever I take my son over for his visits.

Anyway, Ex says that none of the Drs she's seen will Rx anything strong for her pain... apparently in UT where she lived she was getting Rx's for something with Hydrocodone in it... or something like that.

FWSO has gall stones and has had several root canals recently and they always give him Oxycodone for it... They never seem to have problem Rxing it for him.

I know I'm rambling... but I'm confused why FWSO gets it and she doesn't.


Me: BSO - 46
Him: FWSO - 69
DS - 13
D-Day - 12-11-09,
R - he finally came home
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nowiknow23
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Default  Posted: 1:05 PM, July 11th (Thursday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

What is the source of her pain?


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lieshurt
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Default  Posted: 1:10 PM, July 11th (Thursday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I used to know a guy that was addicted to pain pills. He switched doctors often, went to the emergency room a lot and would even hurt himself just so he could get the pain pills. After a while, the doctors/hospitals see the pattern and will stop prescribing pain pills. Hydrocodone is just the generic form of Vicoden and these are very addictive. If she goes in begging for it, that's probably a red flag for the doctor.


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jennie160
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Default  Posted: 1:19 PM, July 11th (Thursday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

He switched doctors often, went to the emergency room a lot and would even hurt himself just so he could get the pain pills. After a while, the doctors/hospitals see the pattern and will stop prescribing pain pills. Hydrocodone is just the generic form of Vicoden and these are very addictive. If she goes in begging for it, that's probably a red flag for the doctor.

This^^^ My old roommates sister was an addict and would do all the things that lieshurts said. If roommates sister came over to visit we had to hide any medicine we had. One time I had bronchitis really bad and my doctor had prescribed me hydrocodone cough syrup. I stupidly left the bottle out when she was visiting and when I went to use it before bed I discovered it was gone and the bottle had been filled with water.


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jrc1963
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Default  Posted: 1:27 PM, July 11th (Thursday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

The source of her pain is long ago car accident.

She has gone to several Drs and urgent cares in the area asking specifically for Hydrocodone - none of them will give her an Rx.

When Ex was telling me I was seeing red flags all over the place.

As a person she's a bit flighty and not too bright. But she's essentially harmless.


Me: BSO - 46
Him: FWSO - 69
DS - 13
D-Day - 12-11-09,
R - he finally came home
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nowiknow23
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Default  Posted: 1:31 PM, July 11th (Thursday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

She has gone to several Drs and urgent cares in the area asking specifically for Hydrocodone - none of them will give her an Rx.
Whether she has a problem or not, those actions scream "I am an addict." And it's perfectly understandable why they won't give it to her.


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Going_Under
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Default  Posted: 2:59 PM, July 11th (Thursday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Doctors generally do not prescribe narcotics for chronic pain. They should be prescribing small quantities for things such as dental abscesses, recent injuries, postop, etc. In the state where I live a pain contract is required for chronic narcotic users. Also, many regular doctors will not prescribe for these patients due to liability issues and refer them to pain management clinics.

If she is asking for narcotics and has been on them chronically for years, she needs to be seen by a pain specialist or a specialist related to her specific injury for treatment, which can be surgical, medicinal, therapeutic, or some combination of those. Narcotics alone are rarely the "cure" for a chronic problem. She certainly isn't going to have much luck getting them from ERs or walk-in clinics.

Sounds like she needs to see a specialist, have some kind of physical therapy, and get someone who will manage her medications. Not always easy, but definitely the right long-term process for something like that.


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Amazonia
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Default  Posted: 3:25 PM, July 11th (Thursday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Is your son around this woman?


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jrc1963
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Default  Posted: 3:29 PM, July 11th (Thursday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Is your son around this woman?

Yes, but not alone.


Me: BSO - 46
Him: FWSO - 69
DS - 13
D-Day - 12-11-09,
R - he finally came home
Your life is an Occasion. Rise to it. - Mr. Magorium, "Mr. Magorium's Wonder Emporium"

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Default  Posted: 4:00 PM, July 11th (Thursday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

jrc,

New laws are going into effect that she needs to be given a urine test to see if she is on the drug. If she tests positive, it means she is taking the drug. If she tests negative.. they will not prescribe it because she is not using it to manage her pain.

I know it's backwards.... but it is an indicator that the drugs are being used the way they should be used.

I know my Doc is HAVING to do the urine tests... before writing the scrips. I don't know if this is something she HAD to do now or for the future to be compliant with regulations.

Hugs,

K


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jrc1963
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Default  Posted: 4:18 PM, July 11th (Thursday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Thanks Kajem...

I really don't know all the ins and outs as of now... just know that she's looking for narcotics and not getting them.

I think the Drs are flagging her as drug seeker.... but like I said... I don't really know.

What I do know is that in the 6-8 months she's been living with him she's in bed more than out and she never ever feels well.

The three of them, ex, son and she, went on vacation in late June and Ex changed her tickets and sent her home after just three days because "she was in too much pain".

When she got home she walked to the urgent care due to a "sinus infection" and then called me to drive her to the pharmacy (she doesn't drive) and just spending that 45 mins with her was enough to try my patience.

Oh well - except for my son's limited exposure to her - she's not really my concern.


Me: BSO - 46
Him: FWSO - 69
DS - 13
D-Day - 12-11-09,
R - he finally came home
Your life is an Occasion. Rise to it. - Mr. Magorium, "Mr. Magorium's Wonder Emporium"

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Mama_of_3_Kids
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Default  Posted: 12:11 AM, July 12th (Friday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Yes to what GU said. Dr's are also very good at figuring out who is addicted, even if they're a new patient. My bio father was (is?) addicted to narcs and it was a horrible situation; I've seen the withdrawals, he hit my step-mom (in front of my sibs), and he ended up in prison. Being addicted is really hard to live with an really hard to kick


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purplejacket4
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Default  Posted: 2:49 PM, July 12th (Friday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

All the states regulate scheduled (addictive) drugs differently. Florida has been awful about pill mills writing narcs left and right. My understanding is the state has come down HARD on prescribers there.
Your XSO's girlfriend needs to get a referral to a pain specialist to evaluate her needs.

Dr. PJ4

[This message edited by purplejacket4 at 2:49 PM, July 12th (Friday)]


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Her: fWS 48 (same sex partner)
Together: 18 years now (both MDs)
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jrc1963
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Default  Posted: 5:13 PM, July 12th (Friday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Dr. PJ,

I do believe they are trying to get referral to a pain specialist...

PM coming to you.


Me: BSO - 46
Him: FWSO - 69
DS - 13
D-Day - 12-11-09,
R - he finally came home
Your life is an Occasion. Rise to it. - Mr. Magorium, "Mr. Magorium's Wonder Emporium"

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