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User Topic: N P D Thread - Part 12
Distraut
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Default  Posted: 8:17 AM, November 27th (Wednesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Morning All
Not much to update XW was served with restraining order last tues.Surprisingly no backlash maybe the calm before the storm.I heard she told a fellow employee about it and was calm.
I was off work the latter part of the week and it wasnt her weekend so the children and I had a good week.
Not sure if she is picking them up fri or not.I did recieve an e-mail mon from her asking if we could go together on the childrens christmas gifts.Actually this was my suggestion at the beginning of this ordeal.I have thought about it and where I am now I dont feel its a good idea and will tell her that via e-mail when I get time.I feel it sends the wrong message to the children and could possibly open a door I would have remain welded shut or some other unforseen reprocussion.
Im enjoying the peace the restraining order gives me at work especially.I go to court next tues to make it long term.I will be there for sure.
Everyone have a great thanksgiving!


Me47 BS
Her WW40
DD13
DS11
D Day 02/16/13
Married 15 years
divorced 04/02/2013
Moving on!

I asked her if she felt any remorse she said "I cry in the shower"


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Distraut
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Default  Posted: 9:28 AM, November 27th (Wednesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Well I spoke too soon.
She texts me wanting to know if she can pick the children up early fri.I said I would speak to them about it and get back to her.
Then she asked about DS11s Dare program graduation if she could go.Its held in the cafeteria so she would be closer than 100 feet to me .I told her that its not her visitation day/time so she couldnt go.She blew up saying she will ask the judge tuesday.I was hoping she wouldnt contest my RO but I intend to have my ducks in a row.I will print all her hateful texts and it wont go well for her.It just sucks the hoops I have to jump through to get her to leave me alone.


Me47 BS
Her WW40
DD13
DS11
D Day 02/16/13
Married 15 years
divorced 04/02/2013
Moving on!

I asked her if she felt any remorse she said "I cry in the shower"


Posts: 120 | Registered: Mar 2013 | From: midwest
jjct
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Default  Posted: 2:33 PM, November 27th (Wednesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Distraut))) hang in there brother.
It's good to have ducks in a row. Be cool, calm.
Don't rise to any baiting!
Happy Thanksgiving!
(((TRIBE)))

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MakingLemonade
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Default  Posted: 6:14 PM, November 27th (Wednesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Distraut, Stay strong!

Wishing everyone a relaxing, NPD free Thanksgiving holiday weekend!


Me: 40's; XBS Him: 40's; XWS/NPD/SA
D-day 1: 5/2007- A #1; 7/2007 A #1 continued-R
D-day 2: 3/2013 A #2/multi-ONSs; 4/2013 A #2 continues to present
D: 7/2013 (25 yrs together; days shy of 22nd anniversary-GOAL MET!)
Our kids: teen & tween

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caregiver9000
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Default  Posted: 7:22 PM, November 27th (Wednesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Then she asked about DS11s Dare program graduation if she could go.Its held in the cafeteria so she would be closer than 100 feet to me .I told her that its not her visitation day/time so she couldnt go.

Visitation time does not exclude either parent from attending such events. The courts expect both parents to have an interest and a right to attend sporting events, school plays, graduations, weddings, etc. In fact, one parent trying to exclude the other from such involvement could be looked at negatively by the court, so tread carefully here.

Also, I don't know the specifics of your RO, but in many cases, email contact is considered breaking the order. Just be sure you know what your protection order includes because if the protected party breaks contact, it voids the order and will make getting a permanent order going forward very difficult.

As jj says, stay the course and don't rise to any bait!

Happy holidays (((tribe)))!


Me: 43, independent, happy, despite co-parenting with a lower muppet
FT "Stretch" (and Skew!) ;)
DS 12 DS 9
S 5/2010
D 12/2012

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Distraut
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Default  Posted: 9:58 PM, November 27th (Wednesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Caregiver
My RO states contact only by e mail or text .It also says she can't come closer than 100 feet of me .We both work at a school .The graduation is in a room smaller than 100 feet so one of us won't be attending.


Me47 BS
Her WW40
DD13
DS11
D Day 02/16/13
Married 15 years
divorced 04/02/2013
Moving on!

I asked her if she felt any remorse she said "I cry in the shower"


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hemademesingle
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Default  Posted: 6:09 AM, November 28th (Thursday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Sorry this is long, but I really need help

I need suggestions on how to deal with my little monster, there is no professional diagnosis for NPD, diagnosed as passive aggressive in 2008, only went to 2 appointments after the pa diagnosis,was to have full testing done, but never did, I believe him to be full blown NPD, I've had almost 5 years of freedom, but not from all the craziness

I have tried to negotiate a divorce for 4.5 years, tried to sign the house back to him, gave all marital possessions, he is in contempt of court for the 5th time, we are headed for trial, there are no custody issues, kids are young adults who want nothing to do with him, they begged him years ago to get help, but he wouldn't, his mask fell off for them, and he became very resentful of them as they called him on his actions

I am lucky that he lives thousands of miles away, so I don't have to deal with him, I have been left to deal with the damage he did to the marital home, the unhandy little monster did his own renovations, he even thought that it was smart to cut out part of a roof truss causing structural damage,several people told him not to including an electrician, but nobody could tell him anything, therefore making the house worth only the lot, it is under water, the bank does not want it back, at this time little monster is making the mortgage payments, he pays the full mortgage with half coming off as my ss, when he left, there were parts of the roof that had leaked since he put a roof on in 1994, he wouldn't fix it nor allow anyone to be hired to fix it, remodeled bathroom in 2005, instructions mean nothing, shower stall leaked from day 1, wouldn't repair it,floor has rotted away all around shower stall,the damage from the leaking rotted the heat pipes to the bathroom and kitchen, laid laminate floor over old rippled floor, cause instructions meant nothing, my kids and I have been forced to live in a house that is full of black mold, there is no dealing with him on the house,he has neither paid for or done any maintenance on the home for many years, up until May 2013 I was actually paying the full mortgage threw ss, since court in May I only pay half and he has to pay me the other half in cash, he is under court order yet again to have house repaired so it can be sold, in the condition it is in now you need cash to buy it for what the mortgage is not what it is worth, it is an absolute nightmare,

My kids and I no longer live in the house, and the little monster has no idea where we live,he believes we still live in house, so we are safe, do I unmask him

He has moved, all his new friends believe that he is a great guy that has done everything for his kids, short list of things he has done in the last 4 years, denied kids from using extended benefits, refuses to pay for son's college, yet paid for daughter's as soon as he found out she was receiving EMDR therapy, son in hospital doesn't contact him, birthdays no contact, special holidays no contact, graduation no contact, out doing something that kids(young adults) would like sends message wishing they were there, had the heat shut off on us, messed with the hydro account,wouldn't pay his share of property insurance, wouldn't pay his share of property taxes, town was going to auction house, soon as bank found out they payed over 17,000.00 to the town, cause the insurance company had sent them a update and they knew by an appraisal that the dwelling is worth nothing, those are just a few highlights never mind being left to tend to a house that is in condemn able condition, and a hazard to our health, still today states how things would have been different if only I had of moved with him, nothing would have been different, cause he is still the same, we lived in hell, while he lived in a nice place, he would pull out the little box in his head and he could pretend he had a wife,kids,pets and pretend that he has a nice marital home

I finally stood up to him in early 2009, told him no marriage if he didn't get IC, he lost his job in 2009, then proceeded to take all his settlement money and buy 3 new toys, spending all the money that would have kept us floating for months leaving us with nothing, so he left in May 2009,

Having abandoned the house and it sitting empty I have an obligation to the town to inform them, so that if an emergency call is for our property that the first res-ponders are kept safe there is no need for them to enter the house, no one lives there,just keep the neighbors places safe, this will take me down too, we will be fined for work being done without a building permit,I have been patient, because I don't want to go down for his actions, this last court order that I finally conceded too was him to do the repairs that he was qualified to do, which are none, he wanted me to pay him 20 ph, plus pay half the supplies, oh and he thought that he would be able to claim on his income tax, no one could get it threw his head that it makes no economical sense for him to fly back, rent vehicle, pay to stay somewhere, lose time from work, all he kept stating is that no one but him is doing work on his house, all he did was ignore this order just like he has every order before it, yet it was the way he wanted it

Do I start to knock off his mask,I have tried everything else, except for offering to get back together, he texted me last week how he doesn't want to be shamed and humiliated because of the things he's done, playing on my empathy yet again,he found out that trial has been set,is smart enough to know that it will be public knowledge if it goes to trial, the house will just be the start of the mask coming off, I have paid for all divorce costs up to this point, except his lawyer, just trying to get a divorce, but this dead weight of a house is holding things up,

I would like to know what others would do take yourself down, exposing little monster, having town inspector in to condemn house, try wait it out, about 5 years until the mortgage will be low enough to sell if for just the lot, I can't afford to fix it as my income is less that 1/5 of his, he earns a very nice living he could have had it fixed but refuses, I think because it's his way of holding on,


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woundedby2
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Default  Posted: 12:42 AM, December 3rd (Tuesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I'm sorry about the situation with your home, hemademesingle. I wish I had some sort of advice for you, but all I can think of is that you should consult an attorney.


Me: BS
2 kids: DD15 and DS18
Him: The Assclown NPD
OW: "friend" of 15 years
Divorced! Feb. 2010

Everybody, soon or late, sits down to a banquet of consequences.
~Robert Louis Stevenson


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hemademesingle
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Default  Posted: 8:54 AM, December 3rd (Tuesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I do have a lawyer, he is under court order to have house fixed by Aug 2013, instead he quit his job, started his own business, then couldn't afford to have the work on house completed, so now he wants me to wait another 3 months so he can save money so he can come back and do the repairs, he's not qualified, it makes no economical sense, but you can't get anything in the little pig headed monster's head, for 4.5 years he has been getting my name off mortgage, hiring contractor, going to come back and do the repairs, still nothing gets done,

For him to be able to save money, he will need to pay expenses while here, expenses where he lives, costs of repairs, loss time from work,cost of getting here, in the last 4.5 years he hasn't been able to save a dime, the one year that we did receive the financials for, when you deduct all the fixed expenses he had over 60 thousand in spending money, yet he wouldn't even pay his half of property insurance, I did so that the house would be insured

The courts won't severe the divorce from the financial, because of the big house issue,court orders mean nothing to him, he just ignores them, the only advice my lawyer can give me is to contact the town, but it takes me down too, I kick my ass for allowing my name to be put on that house, when I had seen issue's with the little monster long before buying the house, of course I thought that I could save him after all he was such a severally abused child, how naive I was

I even tried to sell the house as is the one couple brought in their own contractor, but with what it will cost to repair it's not worth it, little monster never completed any job he started, did most jobs wrong, we had the place appraised in 2007 that was before he did the structural damage, and it came back 20 grand less then what it should have been worth, I have tried to sign this house back to him since 2006, before I ever really saw him for what he is before diagnosis, I knew he had issues, he was always jealous of others, 2 faced, resentful, he was even jealous of the attention his kids received, always the victim

Talking to him yesterday, really made me glad that I'm free, he is still the victim,he couldn't keep on topic about house issue,he's fragile, doesn't want to be shamed and humiliated, all his new relationship problems, his so called friends,bad lawyer 1, bad lawyer 2, did everything for me and his kids,yet those same kids, actually see him as a manipulative controlling bully, they have for years, way before me, they asked him to get help,but he wouldn't so they naturally started to detach and that's when the mask started to fall off, and his resentment really started to build, he is a master of covert abuse,he went on and on like a child, the poor victim, I'm just really lucky that he is so far away, he hung up when I kept saying we are divorcing cause you didn't want to deal with issues,thanks but no thanks I don't want to hear about anything other than the house, you are the center of all the issues, I gave him the offer for us to open a 2 to sign account, to save for the repairs or I am forced to contact the town, he wants me to wait yet again,I waited to long already, I just have the fear of a large fine, cause we are both responsible even though it was the actions of only 1 of us,

He more than could have afforded to have the repairs done he earns 6 figures, which is 5 times my income,

For the last 4.5 years it has felt like a power struggle with an unruly toddler, him throwing a temper tantrum, no reasoning,nothing but fake words,he has done no real maintenance on the property since 1994, he just lived there, since he's been gone in 2009 he won't even share the cost of any normal repairs,

It's just a nightmare, that I've been trying to get away from for years, I don't feel right about not notifying the town that house is abandoned, such a mess


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Kajem
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Default  Posted: 5:09 AM, December 4th (Wednesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

What does your lawyer say about this?

Is your lawyer advising you to notify the town the property is abandoned?

Seems to me if he is still paying the mortgage, the property isn't abandoned, it's unoccupied.

Since he is under court order to make repairs, and he wants to do that! Since you no longer live in the home -he can save expenses by living in the home while making the repairs. Are you obligated to notify him of your change of address?

I would ask your attorney what do they recommend you do?

Good luck


I trust you is a better compliment than I love you, because you may not trust the person you love, but you can always love the person you trust. - Unknown
Relationships are like sharing a book, it doesn't work if you're not on the same page.

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Lostandpregnant
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Default  Posted: 2:07 PM, December 4th (Wednesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Does anyone else find it SO hard to turn off the messages that were drilled into them by their narc partner?

I was thinking today of the times I would tell him how much it hurt me when he would call me names and be really really cruel..and his explanation was always "I have to be extreme in order to get things through your thick skull" and "you push me to that point".

There are other things haunting me as well (a million, but a couple that are really sticking out right now)..the day he left me, I was sobbing and begging and a mess..I said "I love you so much" and he said to me, in a very detached, cold voice "you loved me too much"....and when I told him I would do anything to fix our relationship, he said in disgust "yeah, even if it killed you".

Those two things really fuck with my mind, and I don't understand them. How can I love him "too much"?? Why does it make him recoil in disgust that I would have worked hard to save our relationship?


He left me 18 weeks pregnant with twins for another.I am a Licensed Private Investigator..it even happens to us.

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jjct
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Default  Posted: 11:08 AM, December 7th (Saturday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I'm so sorry (((Lostandpregnant))) I wish I had seen this sooner!

What he says are really little cruelties - designed to have this precise effect on you.

The things they say are meaningless because they come from meaningless insides. They come from nothing. No love, no heart, no empathy.

There is nothing to figure out. They are cruelties meant to wound you.
They are not descriptive of reality. At all.

Oil your feathers, duckie - let that crap slide right off! The sooner you get to hearing white noise when his lips are moving, the better.


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jjct
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Default  Posted: 9:41 AM, December 8th (Sunday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Lostandpregnant, after reading your other posts - you should actually go NC with him.
The abuse stops when you say it stops.
I don't know the laws in Canada - but you really should get a protective order and get safe away from the ghostmonster.

Protect yourself. You have the right - and it's the right thing to do.


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Default  Posted: 3:28 PM, December 8th (Sunday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

There are other things haunting me as well (a million, but a couple that are really sticking out right now)..the day he left me, I was sobbing and begging and a mess..I said "I love you so much" and he said to me, in a very detached, cold voice "you loved me too much"....and when I told him I would do anything to fix our relationship, he said in disgust "yeah, even if it killed you".

Those two things really fuck with my mind, and I don't understand them. How can I love him "too much"?? Why does it make him recoil in disgust that I would have worked hard to save our relationship?

You loved him too much because you loved him, at all. He's not equipped for feelings like love and views them as weak, likely. NPDs will often lash out when someone tries to understand them or show them love and empathy. I don't know if it's because they recognize that they are deficient in that way or if it's because they view it as weak and disgusting. The only way to know would be to also be NPD because they sure as hell aren't going to tell anybody what's REALLY going on in their twisted minds.

Some reading on this site might be beneficial to you:
http://www.lovefraud.com/are-you-a-target/leaving-a-sociopath/


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Default  Posted: 11:03 PM, December 8th (Sunday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Going NC rebalances the power somewhat. You detach and stabilize.

NPD starts getting afraid after a while that they did too much and drove you completely off.

They are like spiders who inject poison and wrap the prey up and tuck it away, ignoring it until NPD is hungry and wants something to eat.

It creeps me out everytime I see it.


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Default  Posted: 10:56 AM, December 9th (Monday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

OMG! Last night me & my oldest went to my mom's to hunt for an old dog that's probably senile...(lost in freezing weather)

As soon as I got home there was much drama over a pair of "lost" sweats.

H starts in on me about washing them(he sleeps in them) so they aren't there when he needs them.

(Sweats have been one of his regular "starting points". He doesn't know if they are clean or dirty, because when I wash them, I put them back where he keeps them so he can find them. Blah, blah, blah. Okay. How about I don't ever wash them? No, no. It ain't like that! )

I wasn't feeling well this weekend, so DD sorted the laundry and I showed her how to run the washer and dryer. H did not know this when he started in about the sweats. DD only sorted what was in the hamper. When I do his pjs(sweats and white t-shirt) I do both pieces. T-shirt was still there.

All of the laundry was done. Kids were asked if they'd seen the sweats. No. I dig all over the place looking for them. No. I wasted a whole hour on this drama with the sweats(humoring him)

H keeps harping about "When you do the laundry blah, blah blah" even though I had already told him several times that I had nothing to do with the laundry.

Finally it sinks in and he says,"I guess I ate them!" in a very loud snarky voice.

I am expecting them to mysteriously turn up soon. Probably in hopes of getting me riled up so he can attempt to start something again.

I think he just wanted to start something. Maybe he needed attention because I was gone looking for the dog. He hasn't stirred shit up in a while, so I knew something was coming, especially since he seemed to be kind of pleasant and coming closer the last couple of days(that sets me up to be hurt even more when he starts his craziness)

It's just so stupid how they engineer situations or make shit up to start something.

Idiots.

(ETA dog was found)

[This message edited by loveisareddress at 10:58 AM, December 9th (Monday)]


Scorched earth-Like Peter the Great, he burns up his own territory in order to gain the upper hand while his own people suffer.

I don't need you to be happy. I just need you to leave me alone when I am.


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Default  Posted: 1:59 PM, December 9th (Monday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

loveisareddress where was the dog found?



D-day OW#1 2/2004; R for 6 years; D-day OW#2 5/2010
Marriages that start this way, stepping over the bodies of loved ones as the giddy couple walks down the aisle, are not likely to last.

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loveisareddress
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She had chased a cat about 3 1/2 hours earlier.

I guess she got confused or something. She was in the brush near a drainage ditch. It was dark and she was cold, confused and afraid to come out. But she finally came out and we led her to the house slowly. She has hip dysplasia or arthritis or something so she doesn't get around very well.

Awful damned glad we found her. It was in the twenties last night. She wouldn't have made it past midnight out there. My mom has enough going on without the dog freezing to death outside. Mom was really upset about it until we found her.

What's weird is when I was on the phone with mom and she was telling me about this, I pictured the dog exactly where we found her.

My intuition is shit where H is concerned though. Go figure.


Scorched earth-Like Peter the Great, he burns up his own territory in order to gain the upper hand while his own people suffer.

I don't need you to be happy. I just need you to leave me alone when I am.


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Default  Posted: 4:25 PM, December 9th (Monday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Narcissistic Rage, so familiar with that term as that was my life for many years. He would fly into a rage, but I never connected the dots. Just knew this man was angry and we always attributed it to talking to his mom who would dismiss him or he was hungry. Now I know the dismissing of him by his mother was where the rage came from and I was the one that he unloaded on.

I was just watching Criminal Minds and they were describing Narcissistic Rage. Although I know this happened and was aware after many visits to SI, something just clicked.

I made a comment about how he looked and made the comment about how he would look later in life. That was my downfall. Not long after he took his EA physical. I was punished for attacking his looks that was what he lived for. His words "I am in better health than men my age, I am in better shape, my eyesight is beyond perfect, people are jealous of my hair". So for me to say that ONE thing in our 23 years of marriage pushed the narcissist into someone else's arms, this time! Wonder what I did the first time? Too bad about all the ugly things he ever said to me, the insults he added through the years as "joking with me", that one thing is what he hung onto and actually told me that I was mean for saying what I did. That one thing, and I challenged him to remember if I had ever said anything else.

I always knew he was punishing me, always knew he was a monster, but for me to say something that a normal person could have joked about, he hung onto this insult.

Thank you to him being NPD and not just a nasty person, because I am able to know he will never change. I have learnt how to do NC, and it has become easy to ignore the texts he sends every now and again. Will have to see him again soon for a family function, but after that, probably not for a long time. I feel bad for the next woman who thinks they can heal the pain of what his ex wife did to him. Not forgiving him. Oh he uses his affair as his "mistake" and now he is a changed man, but I am the bad guy because I wouldn't forgive.

Looking forward to year 2 divorced, year 3 since I found out, year 4 that I knew something was going on and 27 years since I let this POS into my life. So does that make me in the 4 out of the 5 years it takes to heal?

Haven't commented here in NPD Thread in a while, but wanted to let the new people know that you will "get it" and learn to let go of the person you thought you loved. I actually think we are the lucky ones as we don't mourn the spouse that was wonderful, for if we are honest with ourselves, they never were! Our hearts made excuses for their behavior.


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Default  Posted: 3:09 PM, December 10th (Tuesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I was directed here. So, I'm gonna cross post from D/S.

I knew something wasn't right when STXH wouldn't tell me the entire truth. I realize now that I've uncovered his "mask" he wants nothing to do with me. THANK GOODNESS! :) But, I still find it soooo strange that he's not a normal person. It's like he's empty and so cold. I don't know that person. He used me and many, many other women, then tossed us all aside without any remorse. He was never really sorry for what he did. Just blameshifted and wanted to rugsweep for the year of false R we were in.
I asked why his other relationships didn't work out. Thinking if he fell in love with one of them, fine, I could accept that. In facti, I think that would have been better, it would have made me realize he's a normal human being with a heart. But, no, he had at least 10 PA's, 1 LTA in the 3 years that I "know" of while he was cheating. And, I busted him on all of the revelations with proof. He never once felt bad enough to come to me and say he felt bad for what he did. I think he's mostly sorry because he got BUSTED. Till this day, he doesn't "remember" when he first started cheating. In my mind, it could have been from day 1. I will never know and honestly I don't give a fuck. Excuse my language. I've recently adopted a new favorite word. lol.

Does this all sound like NPD to you all??


Me-BW 35. STBXH-35,active alcoholic, suspected NPD SA. 2 little boys. M 6yrs T13.
Year+ false R & TT from Dday1 Nov 2012 IEA - Feb 2014 count at 10 OW PA's 1LTA (all W lied to) for 3 years that I know of.
Filed for D.

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