A while back, before I found SI, I told my WH I was tempted to contact the OBS. He requested that I didn't because he didn't want to disrespect the OBS
Didn't he already do that by his actions. Let alone disrespecting me, then shoving in the knife & twisting it by showing more 'concern' for the OBS than his own spouse?
Anyway, I didn't make contact with OBS then, but struggle with that decision almost everyday. We are trying to be as open as possible, so I told my WS how I felt.
My WS asked me not to since he finally got the AP to quit calling & texting. He says it will just cause her to contact him again. He says he doesn't want to deal with her. I tried contacting AP once & her response was to immediately call my WH
I expect full disclosure from my WS he expects the same from me. So doing it without telling him (either before or after) is not an option. The last text AP sent him he brought straight to me. I tried contacting AP once & her response was to immediately call my WH
I'm wondering if anyone else has been in the same situation. If so, what did you do & what the results were?
Because you have this deal with your H I would make sure the other BS knows and then tell your H, not before.
[This message edited by AStar at 9:18 AM, August 28th (Wednesday)]
**The cruelest lies are often told in silence- Robert Louis Stevenson
[This message edited by AStar at 9:15 AM, August 28th (Wednesday)]
Your BH shouldn't be protecting his AP he should be protecting you.
ETA: I was the BS that did NOT know. The other BW knew abotu the A and confronted my STBXWW at their job almost a year before Dday. the other BS never once tried to contact me. So I sat in the dark for an additional year while my WW and the other WS kept their 3 year LTA goign for an additional year. I got the story of a crazy woman came up the job accusign my WW of sleepign with her husband. I got gaslit to death and believed that shit. If the OBS had called me, emailed me, sent me a smoke signal, I would have connected the dots and this A would have been outed and ended long before it did. Instead the OBS kept beating her head against a wall as her WH was still cheating with my WW and as I would later find out other woman at their job. I got to spend an extra year wondering what the hell was going on with my life and why things were crazy in my house. So yeah tell the OBS as it will help with an additional set of eyes and the OBS can get tested for STDS, etc.
[This message edited by 7yrsflushed at 9:29 AM, August 28th (Wednesday)]
I was the one who called the OS and told him what was going on. He was forever grateful that I did. I learned so much from him about how horrible their marriage had been (yes I took it with a grain of salt). He had actually told her he was going to divorce her. She had really truly been the initial aggressor in this journey. She had sexually come on to my husband for over a year before changing tactics....the friendship and caring thing worked better on my H.
Through my relationship with the OS, we have both been able to piece stuff together. He has also helped me throw a few daggers back at his wife all which has shown my hubby what a conniving little bitch she really was.
For my part, the true reason why I called him was simple....he had a right to know and I wanted to make sure the A was good and DEAD. It is much harder to hide when more eyes are watching you. The OS also warned me of an impending visit from his wife which we were able to stop....we live in a totally different country so the visit wasn't just a get in the car and go over she had to plan the whole thing.
I do not abuse my relationship with this OS. Yes I tell my hubby when I call and why it was necessary. For me it revolves around feeling safe. I don't trust that woman as far as I can throw her....which is a hell of a long way right now!!!
Through thick and thin we will survive but he gets only one shot at it!
Another issue is that if this is not exposed, she will likely never address her issues that led to this. Which makes it very likely that it will happen again. And possibly destroy another family in the process.
I know it doesn't seem like it, but I really think exposure is doing them a favor. Not just for the OBS but even for his WW. It is their opportunity to be genuine. And I don't believe that will ever happen if this is not addressed.
Good luck. I know I was scared to death when I had to make that phone call.
7yrs - It's his work#, email etc...so he can't change it.
7yrs - It's his work#, email etc...so he can't change it.
Do they work together? You can out them at work but your mileage may vary on this one and your WH will likely be impacted as well but that's a consequence for him.
If they don't work together he can go to HR or his Boss if it's a smaller company and explain the situation. corporate america has ways of blocking contact especially if he goes in telling them that AP is contacting him for no work related stuff and it needs to stop.
Probably way more than you wanted but at a minimum contact the OBS so it's out in the open.
ETA: My point is there are ways that your WH can stop her from contacting him if he puts a little thought into it. Heck go to the police and file a restraining order.
[This message edited by 7yrsflushed at 10:02 AM, August 28th (Wednesday)]
I think he's looking to protect his own butt, which doesn't surprise me. However, the exOW's husband has just as much right to know the reality of his marriage as you did. To not tell him is to keep their dirty secret for them.
I think you should stop asking your husband's opinion (because his is self-serving) and do what you know in your heart is the right thing to do.
Good luck to you.
He can block her emails so they get deleted immediately or have them sent to a spam folder if you want to see them before deleting them.
The phone thing is a little harder
We set the phone so it rings different if she tries to call or text, that way he doesn't just answer it thinking it's a customer.
Every night when he gets home from work the phone gets put on the counter. I can choose to look at it or not, whatever I want that day.
You might consider asking yourself...What do I want to do? or What do I need to do for myself?
In my situation my STBXWW knew, her AP knew, OMBS knew, OM's other other woman knew (yes he was involved with more than just my WW), and OOW's husband knew. Guess who didn't know?...ME! I have since learned that all of them had secret meetings on how to deal with this and I still had no clue. I felt like a fool after finding all this out. Had I been told I could have made a much more informed and timely decision about how I wanted to proceed with my life.
I don't know that any WS wants the BS to contact the OBS. I wouldn't if I was in his position either i'd imagine. But this isn't about him at this point. This is about what you need to do for yourself and what you feel is the best given the circumstances.
Think about it. If there are any STD that are not curable - HPV, Herpes or heaven forbid HIV, that the OBS is aware of the AP carrying, they can tell you. You need to ask that person. Also if your OBS is having sex with AP, and THAT person has an STD, you can be affected, if you haven't already.
Also, it prevents the affair from going underground. Don't worry about the ramifications of the OBS. Or of that on your husband. Get your husband to change his cell number if needed. If he is serious about staying with you, these are small inconveniences in the long term.
None of these problems will matter 5 years from now if you are able to pull through this.
In fact, ultimately my WH called him and spoke to him personally. He owned up to the ugly truth, apologized profusely, and offered to put him in contact with me so I could share the "evidence" I had collected. For about a week or so, he and I exchanged emails using a joint email account that my WH has complete access to. I sent him everything I had, and she was not a happy camper when confronted. At this point, my WH and I have a harassment injunction against her.
She doesn't get to drop a bomb like this, and walk away unscathed. She doesn't get to walk into my marriage, betray her own vows, and skip off into the sunset.
H - E - DOUBLE L NO!!!
If I could find a way to ruin more of her life without causing additional pain to her hurting spouse, I would do it in a heartbeat.
As it stands, I'm pretty sure he's been down this road with her before...seems to me that she's a home wrecking wench who has been around the block a few times.
This time, however, she effed with the wrong wife.
I got the same garbage from fWW - the OBS was a violent drug-abuser that may attack if told about the A. I met her and found out she had no idea and was a battered women's advocate and director of a nursing home.
He's giving you bullshit reasons for not telling OBS because he just wants it to go away, I'm sure, and not have to deal with any more fallout. Anything you do at this point forward is a consequence of his poor decisions, not something you just thought it might be fun to do.
D-Day #1: 12 Aug. 2008. WW's 2nd affair w/college teacher.
D-Day #2: 18 June 2009. Affair #1 with neighbor was fall of 2002 - while I was coping with the fallout from 9/11.
Still trying to R.
22 years married
I found her home phone number eventually and called. It started out with me clumsily trying to explain who I was and why I was calling. Turns out the POSOM had warned her a crazy man might call and tell her lies. I'm betting the OW has said something similar to her H.
I did the only thing I could. I quickly told her the bare bones truth, that my WW and her H had an inappropriate relationship and she deserved to know the truth about the situation she was in. If she wanted me to hang up and never call her again I would but I had all the proof she needed if she wanted to hear it. She paused and said she didn't want to know. So I said OK and hung up.
It's not up to you whether you should call or not. You're being irresponsibility if you don't call.
[This message edited by Twitchy at 5:37 PM, August 28th (Wednesday)]
Dies irae. Dies illa solvet saeclum in favilla.
1) If their partner cheated with your partner...who knows who/what else that person has been sleeping with as well. Just because you and your WS didn't get an STI doesn't mean that the other WS doesn't have one and won't bring it home to their BS. It is a safety and health issue.
2) Your H's reasons for not wanting to "disrespect" the OBS are absolutely lundcrous. Your H already disrespected him by sleeping with his wife. His WW already disrespected him by lying to him and cheating with at least one other man. All you would be doing is letting him know what is going on so that he can be aware of what is going on in his own relationship. Sounds like your H is afraid of getting punched.
3) I think this is a clear case of "do unto others as you would have them do unto you." If the OBS knew about the affair and YOU didn't know...wouldn't you want them to tell you? It is simply the right thing to do.
After you contact him:
-Let OBS know that you will not harass him or his wife and you expect the same consideration from the two of them
-Block the OW from your H and your cell phones
-Block her from e-mail
At least the current man "only" cyber-cheated.
"Love means never having to say you're sorry."