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User Topic: 2 Immature people = 1 affair
homewrecked2011
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Default  Posted: 7:58 AM, September 6th (Friday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I am starting to see how my XH affair got started.

I work with a guy. He always sits with me at break (only one table in break room). He has started telling me what he doesn't like about his wife.

Sigh,,,,

IF I were an immature person - or flawed like many waywards, this would probably develop into an affair. 2 people sharing what they DON"T like about their spouses -- while the spouses are at home or working thinking there are some issues that need to be resolved, but unaware this sharing of personal information is going on.

Thank God I am emotionally an adult and I told this guy he needs to talk to his wife about his disappointments so that they can be fixed and maybe their marriage can survive. I think the flawed person doesn't see anything wrong with sharing this info, believes their spouse doesn't care, and is ready to "try on" new relationships to see what is working before they break up with their current spouse because these immature/selfish people don't want to be alone.

I realized after the conversation yesterday what everyone on here has told me over and over regarding my XWH> It really has NOTHING to do with me. He is broken, just like the married man talking to me at break.

This revelation made me feel better, hope it helps someone else out there...

[This message edited by homewrecked2011 at 8:04 AM, September 6th (Friday)]


me BS 52
him - 46
married 15 years DIVORCED 10 31 12
children - ds15 ds12
d-day 12-19-11
I gave a 24hour ultimatum then went to attorney next day
Divorce filed

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Ellephantastic
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Default  Posted: 8:00 AM, September 6th (Friday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Feel so sorry for that man's wife, poor woman!


BS(me)
WBF = PA
Ow = 19(at the time)
WBF A = 08/10/2012-17/10/2012
D-Day = 24/01/2013

"It was easier for him to hurt me than it was for him to turn her down"


Posts: 75 | Registered: Jul 2013 | From: Scotland
2oldforthis
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Default  Posted: 8:42 AM, September 6th (Friday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I think people think that having that type of conversation is so innocent. But it is the start.

I have a female friend who worked in an office with a guy. They started to talk about their S with each other. Then the guy would say to her that he would never treat her like that, blah, blah, blah. Well of course in time he feel in love with her. He announced it to her and to his wife. My friend claims to be in shock about this and tells her husband. She is crying. Ends up quiting her job. It puts a hugh stain in their marriage.

My point, come on, didn't you see those blurred lines. I think no because like so many others she was likeing the attention.

[This message edited by 2oldforthis at 8:43 AM, September 6th (Friday)]


He did not see what he had in me, what I saw in him I did not have!

Love kills slowly.


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TxsT
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Default  Posted: 8:54 AM, September 6th (Friday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

2OLD....well stated. I have come to the same conclusion. And I don't even think my husband gets it yet but he will. He has already told me he had no idea what an EA was when I brought it up. That shocked me to death. I have always been so much more grounded then him and have seen EA's around me all my life. That's why I never left him alone at parties......very sad that the world is a mine field most days we just don't connect the dots until it is too late.

Homewrecked....good on you for speaking up. I too can't stand any sign of weakness coming from people anymore. I say the exact same thing you do and in a very direct way. I think it is the directness and my passion behind it that lets them know on no uncertain terms I know what I am talking about. I can sense infidelity now and do not tolerate it in any form.

T


Me: BS 50
Hubby: WH 53
Together: 32 years
Married: 25 years 09/10/2013
2 boys: 23&21
Dday: 09/11/2012
A length: 4+ years (yes years)
status: Ongoing Reconciliation :o)

Through thick and thin we will survive but he gets only one shot at it!


Posts: 605 | Registered: Jul 2013 | From: CDN
cuppacoffee
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Default  Posted: 9:02 AM, September 6th (Friday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

i totally agree.

they go out and fish until they find someone who agrees with their side of the story and then bam they are so in love because the person "gets them and gives them attention."

The shit gets real when they start leaving dirty socks on the ground and the ugly parts they tried to hide shine through.

Because obviously the problem you are having with your spouse can be fixed by talking to someone else instead to spouse. SMH

I just don't get why people can't be grown ups sometimes. Like seriously fools.


I'm like a vacuum bag
That holds all that old dirt
Remember that time we said we'd be together forever?
Don't hate me, don't regret me, don't ever forget me
Wherever you go, whatever you do, don't say I never loved you

Posts: 360 | Registered: May 2013
homewrecked2011
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Default  Posted: 4:11 PM, September 6th (Friday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Sometimes I think the affair ends after a couple of years because they realize the only thing they had in common was how "awful" they were treated at home. Then, they have the same issues with this partner, never realizing that they are the ones so broken...

I don't mean to generalize, I totally think this is the deal with my XWH, and I could have forgiven him the affair, but not the horrid way he has treated me since. Moving on,,,,,

[This message edited by homewrecked2011 at 4:12 PM, September 6th (Friday)]


me BS 52
him - 46
married 15 years DIVORCED 10 31 12
children - ds15 ds12
d-day 12-19-11
I gave a 24hour ultimatum then went to attorney next day
Divorce filed

Posts: 2062 | Registered: Jan 2012
womaninflux
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Default  Posted: 4:26 PM, September 6th (Friday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I'm pretty sure my SAWH's POA (person of addiction) just wanted to pretend he was a hot piece of single ass in the city. He said she never wanted to hear about his family life. Said she "didn't want to be a home wrecker" yet when he finally, 7 weeks after DD, ended it, cried and said she felt like she had wasted 2.5 years on him. Only an immature idiot has a mind that thinks like this. And obviously, my SAWH is also immature. I think he thinks like a 10 year old boy.


BS - mid-40's
SAWH - mid 40's
Kids - 2 elementary school aged
Getting tons of therapy and trying to "work it out"

Posts: 864 | Registered: Jun 2013
Reality
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Default  Posted: 5:03 PM, September 6th (Friday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

they go out and fish until they find someone who agrees with their side of the story and then bam they are so in love because the person "gets them and gives them attention."

Wow, Cup, exactly. Well said.

I think one thing that tweaked my WH's ego hugely during this past DD was the OW(s) siding with me once they, well, learned of my existence. Once they knew he was married, he tried to play it that I was controlling and spinning the truth to make him look bad. Watching the main OW rip into him over his priorities and lack of character saved my sanity for several days afterwards. The other OW(s) refused to even speak to him. Subtle vindication in the situation, but still, it helped. All the women were nice women who talked about how they were unhappy in how imbalanced their lives currently were, immersed in on-line communities and games to the exclusion of other parts of their lives. It was sad. I felt sad for them. Despite us being similar ages, they sounded... young and lost.

In the end, WH sought them out because of that, took advantage of it, played his odious alter ego, and came off looking exactly as immature, self serving, and shallow as he behaved.


Posts: 292 | Registered: Apr 2013
TxsT
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Default  Posted: 5:06 PM, September 6th (Friday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Very good thread. It is sad that we just dont like to own up to our own shit. Sad, very sad.

T


Me: BS 50
Hubby: WH 53
Together: 32 years
Married: 25 years 09/10/2013
2 boys: 23&21
Dday: 09/11/2012
A length: 4+ years (yes years)
status: Ongoing Reconciliation :o)

Through thick and thin we will survive but he gets only one shot at it!


Posts: 605 | Registered: Jul 2013 | From: CDN
RidingHealingRd
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Default  Posted: 10:51 PM, September 6th (Friday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I would say that he is testing the waters and priming for an affair....just another asshole.


ME: 54 BS
HIM: 61 WH
Married: 28 years
D'Day: 10/29/10
in R 3.5 years and it's working but he is putting 200% into it (as he should) to make it right again.

The truth hurts, but I have never seen it cause the pain that lies do.


Posts: 2109 | Registered: Nov 2011
tulie
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Default  Posted: 5:15 PM, September 17th (Tuesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

This thread hit home. I'm going through a divorce now. Got married in July 2012 after dating nearly 4 years. I found out I was pregnant 2 months later.

Apparently, my STBXH decided to turn to his coworker ab our relationship...who incidentally got ordained to serve as our WEDDING OFFICIANT. Yup. The woman married us. She was also my friend...who I turned to about things from time to time, as girlfriends do. Well, I guess she wasn't happy with her (now ex) H and cheated with my H. She left her EX for my H, and he left me when I was 5mo pregnant after months of gaslighting me.

None of it makes sense. We were newlyweds. They are now together in another state. I moved to be close to family and have my baby (now nearly 4-months old). He was outed by a friend and has the nerve to be angry with me. It's all sad and sickening.

I don't know how someone you love so much could do something so terrible. Now he is a father-figure her 2 kids and my son is fatherless. He is openly still with her and they seem "happy."

I am over wanting my STBX back, but I wonder ...could this awful abomination of a relationship last? I don't want my baby around this awful woman. I know they are "broken," Homewrecked, but it doesn't make me feel better right now.

He also says he is "sorry," but is he really as long as he is with her?


Tulie

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Simple
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Default  Posted: 6:01 PM, September 17th (Tuesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

My mother said it right: "The other woman is so wonderful until she started acting like a wife."


Love is a choice.

True love is harder to come by than soul mates. True love requires work.

Ignorance can be cured with knowledge. There is no cure for being an idiot.


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Spelljean
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Default  Posted: 7:04 PM, September 17th (Tuesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I agree with the "until she starts acting like a wife" (or husband)

That I think, is where it falls apart and a WS discovers that the grass isn't really greener.

It was where my WH and OW started to fall apart. OW was sure to inject enough compliments in the mix though, so he would stay interested. But even that didn't last long.

OW talks of love like she's 15. WH eats it up feels like a "real man" in front of her. Until she kept getting angry he hadn't left me yet, and told him to "man up." That didn't sit well with him.

I pulled away, moved out and am now living quietly in the distance. And he keeps reaching out to me now. No peeps from me at all.


WH: 41
me: BS, 45
Together 18 1/2 years, married 17
DDAY 8/2/12
OW: EA- friend of 4 months
Status: separated

Posts: 903 | Registered: May 2012 | From: California
homewrecked2011
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Default  Posted: 3:46 PM, September 18th (Wednesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Tulie,,,,

I think my XWH is selfish and immmature. As long as he wanted me more than anyone else, we were together. Then, when someone else paid attention to him,,,off he went. Now I hear OW is cheating on him and he doesn't know it. He, too tries to be a good dad to her kids, not ours...


me BS 52
him - 46
married 15 years DIVORCED 10 31 12
children - ds15 ds12
d-day 12-19-11
I gave a 24hour ultimatum then went to attorney next day
Divorce filed

Posts: 2062 | Registered: Jan 2012
LeopoldB
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Default  Posted: 4:31 PM, September 18th (Wednesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I work with a guy. He always sits with me at break (only one table in break room). He has started telling me what he doesn't like about his wife.

I believe that when WS's divorce and move in together, they invariably buy and then sit staring mutely at that same break room table. It represents all they have in common and how little they got in trade for their lost marriages.


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