I think that there is a great deal more to life and what happens afterward than we can possibly have any inkling about today.
Imagine the understanding that human beings had just a thousand years ago vs. our understanding today.
The sun, apparently, no longer orbits the earth. Neither do the stars. Many of our other beliefs will fall in the years to come.
The truth, or Truth if you like, has got to be ever so much greater than we could ever imagine, comprehend or experience while we are alive.
Accordingly, I have no fear of death. I only seek to live life in the fullest way that I can. I also don't see any conflict in that view and praying to God, or Allah or whatever you might wish to call the infinite. I am however, suspicious of the concept of 'worship' since I really don't think that the 'divine' in the universe would really be moved by any such human concept.
[This message edited by TrulyReconciled at 2:58 PM, September 11th (Wednesday)]
The best answer I can give (today) is that I'm an agnostic.
I do believe that there is more than science can explain, however, I need more than words in a book or someone else's interpretation of said book to go by.
I basically live my life in a "treat others as I'd like to be treated" manner and go from there.
DD(21), DS(18, PDD-NOS)
6 Furkids - 4 dogs, 2 cats
WXH (serial cheater, 12+ OW) - Legally married 18yrs
I edit often for clarity.
That's about all I think I can say without violating the terms of SI.
"In life, unlike chess, the game continues after checkmate." - Asimov
"Be patient and tough; someday this pain will be useful to you." - Ovid
I think there's a better argument for a deity than there is for the fermi paradox though. It's like he forgot the galaxy is a hundred fucking thousand light years across. You could teleport instantly between points and it's still stupid to think you could do much more than have a scrapbook of vacation photos. "Check out the Pillars bro" and "This nebula looks like a space dong" in a holobook is what you would get, not complete galactic colonization.
I just have too many questions. I believe in something - maybe it's God, maybe it's a higher power. I'm just not sure. I saw a young girl this weekend that had muscular dystrophy - she had a wonderful disposition and was very pleasant. I began questioning God - if He loves us so much, how could this happen?
My thoughts exactly!
If I, as a parent, who by no means is perfect will go through hell and back to protect my children, why would a God that is "perfect" allow his children to suffer?!
Plus I am also scared to death that if I do question him, he may punish me to the brink of insanity to "prove to me" that he is real and all powerful.
This just scares the hell out of me. -No pun intended.
[This message edited by Exit Wounds at 3:39 PM, September 11th (Wednesday)]
Did your faith in Him strengthen past D day or weaken?
Strengthened significantly post D Day. Same for the WW. Exactly why I couldn't tell you. The lessening of the faith that came so easily in my childhood had been one of the great disappointments of my adulthood. But that seems to have completely turned around. I'm not going to over-analyze it...I'll take whatever positives I can get these days!
after DDay one - strengthen
after DDay two - weaken... What God would let me go through this once and then I apparently didn't learn a lesson so had to do it again? psh.
me (WW/BS): 48
4 kiddos in mid 20's
“Follow your intuition. Be smart, be brave. Tell the truth and don’t take any shit.”
I will accept the theory that maybe there is a higher power, but fail to see why I should worship that being. The kind of 'god' I could see myself admiring would probably find abject worship to be vulgar and sort of embarrassing and would just want people to be good to each other and the world.
I don't follow any religion. At all.
I think that there is something better that comes after this life.
I hope I make sense...I have to admit not being from this country still causes me issues with trying to get across what I think makes sense in German
I was brought up Catholic. Very Catholic. 12 years of Catholic school. Wanted to be a nun when I grew up. (SisterMilkshake ~ ta-dah) But, even in school I had questions. One day in religion class I asked my 10th "why?" question and Sister Julia just threw her arms up to the heavens and said "Faith, M________ M____, faith!" Well, I thought that answer sucked. I have been asking why ever since! Got kicked out of confession because I asked Father "why?" . But, I always had a strong belief in God.
Until the past few years. The questions of "Why?" just keep a coming and I don't get any good answers. In the past year I found this quote by Epicurus. It is the same one that heartbroken_kk posted:
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?
This sums up how I feel. I am not ready to say I don't believe in God, but I can't say I believe, either. I feel it is possible that there is God.
there is much more going on then we can even begin to imagine, impossible for us to imagine.
[This message edited by SisterMilkshake at 8:58 PM, September 11th (Wednesday)]
"Oh, why do my actions have consequences?" ~ Homer Simpson
"She knew my one weakness: That I'm weak!" ~ Homer Simpson
To me God is love.
Humans created punishment etc.
I have had situations happen to me that I attribute to God (conceotion off dd7...there is a story to my miscarriage and then conception of dd).
Sorrow. Illnesses. Etc, to me that is just life. Life is not perfect. I believe God gives life but does not control life
To me the beauty that is just in front of our nose, that is God.
I hope I didnt cross any lines here. If I did, pls edit
I believe there is some kind of power in the universe(s). I don't believe it's a being of any kind. In fact the idea has been formulating in my mind that the power is within all of us, and it's up to us to unleash it as needed/desired. It can be a force that's really good or really bad.
I don't follow any religion. At all.
Do not back up. Severe tire damage.
There are some teachings I find valuable and some guidance for living I have adopted. But I do not believe in the underlying theory at all.
I never blamed God for what my ex did, that is ex's fault, not God's. I have been blessed many times since divorce. I have watched my daughter be faithful to our God and watched be blessed. My heart is full of joy and thankfulness knowing my God provides what I need and wants to grow me.
As far as the bible being fiction and written by man, nonsense. Not one thing in the bible has been proven wrong.
Many atheists have tried too prove it wrong and have ended up believers.
Like I said earlier, watch Joyce Meyers show, she tells it like it is.
I believe because I see the blessings in my life and I feel the holy spirit in my life. When you believe, it is like a hole in your soul has been filled. Like when you have a child and never knew what you did before them. Love, it is your heart filled with love from a father that will bring you to your knees to save you so you won't be separated from him for eternity.