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Beyond
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Default  Posted: 11:45 AM, September 13th (Friday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Eranda, YES! I heard that VM Skyler left and it sounded bleak...

I am re-watching tonight to see if I can determine whether Gomie really did get hit. Maybe he was just flinching, what with Hell raining down on him and all.

Meanwhile, about a dozen people have sent me the YouTube link to Jimmy Fallon's "Joking Bad" sketch!


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Default  Posted: 1:16 PM, September 13th (Friday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Hit or not in the last episode, there is no way that Hank or Gomez survive. If either of them survives, it is because they won the fight, and the show is over. The idea of being just wounded or comatose, lets not forget they are going up against Todd... I just don't see him as the type to offer aid and comfort to the fallen, while the neck tatoos suggest the rest of them would happily kill Gomez just because they can. They also need to keep Hank alive and free from their perspective, because they need him to show them how to make things blue.


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Default  Posted: 6:52 PM, September 13th (Friday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I think Gomez was hit, there was blood on his shirt I think.

Here's what I do not understand:

if the skinheads kill Hank and Gomez (and possibly Jesse) then that is the best possible outcome for Walt. He's not responsible (he didn't pull the trigger), and the skinheads don't know they're there because that's where the money is.

So Walk walks... no more Hank or Gomez to worry about- and they're the only cops that know the true story. So... cop problems? Over.

So WHY is Walt in the car yelling for them not to shoot???


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aesir
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Default  Posted: 6:55 PM, September 13th (Friday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Because Walt still feels some connection and responsibility to his family, otherwise he would have dumped ricin in the burritos at the restaurant. On the phone he called off the hit when he saw that it was Hank with Jesse.


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Default  Posted: 7:59 PM, September 13th (Friday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

love love this show!


OW1 inadvertently let me know WH loves English breakfast tea. Never ever saw him drink it. And I never will.

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Default  Posted: 11:42 AM, September 14th (Saturday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Agree with Aesir - Hank "is family," according to Walt, remember? Can't order hits on family. Seems to be (at least until now...) the only line Walt won't cross.

Question: We're not clear on whether Uncle Jack & Co. know that Walt is in the back of the car, right? I mean, I know Walt was screaming but I didn't get that they heard or saw him.


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Default  Posted: 2:09 PM, September 14th (Saturday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I think Hank and Gomie end up dead. Gomie's probably already dead. Walt, Hank Jesse get captured by NeoNazis. Hank, I think, is bleeding out and will soon die, but not before a "Fuck You, Walt" speech...or he begs for his life and Walt kills him, completing his turn towards becoming Darth Vader. Walt and Jesse remain captured and forced to cook together. Once Marie realizes that Hank has gone missing, she freaks out and confronts Skyler, who swears she doesn't know what's going on. Walt escapes, and either by accident or on purpose, Jesse doesn't. After a few days, the DEA comes looking for Hank and searches his house...either at Marie's request or due to their own investigation. Maybe Marie tries to tell them about Walt...maybe not. One way or another, they find the DVD that Walt made and put two and two together. They think Hank fled to evade capture, and Gomie was in on it. They think Marie is covering for Hank. Marie, sort of a psychologically unstable person already, snaps under the strain. She spazzes and somehow manages to poison one of the kids while trying to get Skyler (or Walt, since she doesn't know he's missing, too). This destroys any kind of vestige of warmth Skyler has for her sister. She has a long history of needing psychological treatment, including kleptomania and thoughts of poisoning someone close to her. That means the DEA isn't going to believe her story (the truth) anyway, and she seems like a prime candidate for a dissociative break with reality under prolonged mental stress. The DEA come looking for Walt, and he confesses to the stuff he said on the DVD, and maybe the whole family goes witness protection. Skyler has no objections, because really, she hates Marie now. Walt comes back to rescue Jesse from the Nazis, and maybe to poison Lydia. When he comes back, though, I think Jesse may be running shit somehow...I mean, Jesse had been both a passive and active observer of every single facet of the meth trade. He's seen complex schemes come to fruition, he's seen how things SHOULD run, under Gus. He's seen all the mistakes and all the triumphs. He's uniquely situated to RUN THIS SHIT. Thoughts?

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Default  Posted: 7:13 PM, September 14th (Saturday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Yo, yo, I am betting my fat stacks that funerals are in the near future for Hank and Gomie. We already know that Walt survives to his 52nd bday in NH. He gets off because they are the only ones in law enforcement who know his secrets.

I hope Pinkman survives, he's my favorite character. I also think that Marie may end up dining on a ricin sandwich, and psycho Todd will be Walt's next murder.

Can't wait until tomorrow!!

PS: Re-watched the end of episode 5/13 and could not tell for sure if anyone was hit.

E.


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Default  Posted: 7:45 PM, September 14th (Saturday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

FP, interesting, but your theory needs at least two more episodes than they have left, which is already four more episodes than they originally planned to tell the story that basically has not changed.

I still think NH is related to a vacuum cleaner purchase.


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Default  Posted: 7:55 PM, September 14th (Saturday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

FP - INTERESTING! It sorta makes sense to me. Although, as aesir mentioned, things would have to move VERY quickly and time is of the essence.

I watched it again, too, and it LOOKS like Gomie might've been hit very close to the end of the episode. But he fired afterward, so if he was hit, that one must not have been the bullet that I fear is going to take him out

BTW, my favorite line thus far from this part of season five - Huell, lying on the money pile: "Mexico. All's I'm sayin."


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Default  Posted: 9:07 PM, September 14th (Saturday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

So sad to hear that Better Call Saul is going to be done as a prequel. That means no Huell. Early on they were saying prequel so that they could include Gus Fring, but that makes no sense to me, as Saul is not the one who knew Gus, that was Mike. Be interesting to have Mike back though.

Did you know Tigers are still legal in Texas?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ll7GSiad0ko

BTW, my favorite line thus far from this part of season five - Huell, lying on the money pile: "Mexico. All's I'm sayin."

Guy Hit Ten Guys In Jail Within A Two Minute Window.
All's I'm Saying.


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Default  Posted: 10:16 PM, September 14th (Saturday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

FP, interesting, but your theory needs at least two more episodes than they have left
I was thinking that, too. And in order for Lydia to *deserve* the ricin, she'd need to do some serious grime before then as well.


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Default  Posted: 10:48 AM, September 15th (Sunday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Wait, why couldn't Huell appear in a prequel? Do we know that he just came around in Walt time? If so, I don't remember that...Maybe he was with Saul for a long time prior to Saul meeting Walt? I cannot remember....

And way to be murky, Vince Gilligan! I just checked the guide on TV and here's the description of tonight's ep (titled Ozymandias): "Everyone copes with radically changed circumstances."

Ya think?!


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Default  Posted: 2:20 PM, September 15th (Sunday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I believe Huell was hired as Saul's bodyguard after Mike kicked the shit out of him. I think he wanted a big guy not bright enough to have other shit going on on the side.


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Default  Posted: 9:23 PM, September 15th (Sunday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Oh.My.God. That's about all I've got right now


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Default  Posted: 9:30 PM, September 15th (Sunday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Beyond, I'll see your Oh.My.God and raise you a WOW.

So much to take in and absorb.


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Default  Posted: 1:24 AM, September 16th (Monday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Is anyone else thinking that Todd is either poorly written/researched/acted, or an incredibly more complex character than the narrative can explore.

He does not seem to fit as a psychopath, and he is not nearly the dumb follower that he first appears to be. Almost like a cross between Mad Max and Emily Post. I so want to see the actor on Talking Bad to see what he has to say about the character.


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Default  Posted: 7:59 AM, September 16th (Monday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

OK does anyone else find the 7 day wait between these last episodes almost unbearable?!?!?

Last night left me with that wait there has to be more feeling.

countdown to next Sunday has begun.


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Default  Posted: 10:30 AM, September 16th (Monday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Is anyone else thinking that Todd is either poorly written/researched/acted, or an incredibly more complex character than the narrative can explore.

I would go with the latter explanation. He's quick on the trigger but he's also smart enough to save Jesse's life so he can use him to cook meth for the purpose of pleasing Lydia. Underestimate him at your own peril.

He does not seem to fit as a psychopath, and he is not nearly the dumb follower that he first appears to be. Almost like a cross between Mad Max and Emily Post.

Or like a cross between Opie on the Andy Griffith show and Dexter.


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Default  Posted: 5:34 PM, September 16th (Monday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I would go with the latter explanation. He's quick on the trigger but he's also smart enough to save Jesse's life so he can use him to cook meth for the purpose of pleasing Lydia. Underestimate him at your own peril.
I think that was just a surface motivation... I think he might really have been trying to save Jessie, fucked up I know, but the two of them did have a connection back when they all worked together. I'm thinking this because of something his uncle said when returning a barrel of money to Walt, about how his nephew would never forgive him if it went down any other way...

Just find that whole angle fascinating, and regret that it could not have been explored deeper before the impending carnage.


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