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User Topic: It just hurts
erzulie
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Sad  Posted: 4:47 PM, September 28th (Saturday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I have wrapped my brain around many givens in my situation. That it's not my fault. That I didn't deserve it. That its impossible for me to fix.

These are givens.

Why do I sit and sob for hours at a time? I'm not 100% sure what I'm crying about. Am I sad because I sacrificed having human children to support WH through graduate school - and now, at Age 44, my chances of having children (adopting) are slim to nil?

Am I sad because of what he threw away? I sat and looked through the box of cards that I've given him over the years. There were no holds barred in my love for him. I worshipped him.

Am I sad because of all the hurt people around us?

Today I sat and looked at my furkids - my dogs. One of them is somewhere between 12 and 14. The other just turned 8. All they have is me. The older gal, I don't know how much time she has left. When she has passed from this life, it'll just be my boy dog and me, for however many years he has left. And when he's gone ... what life will I have?

I feel like my only purpose in this life is to care for them, and then I'm pretty much done with my usefulness.

Why does it hurt so much? There has to be more meaning to life than this. How did I do this to myself, how did I end up here? I've tried so hard to be such a good person. I work hard, I volunteer on several charities, I love my family, I adored my husband, I gave 110% of myself every day.

Where did I go wrong?


A saying for my SI Family: "We may not have it all together, but together we have it all".

Fooled twice - almost exactly 10 years apart.


Posts: 3377 | Registered: Jan 2004 | From: California
Williesmom
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Default  Posted: 5:11 PM, September 28th (Saturday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

You did no wrong.

I also decided not to have children- it's just me and 4 dogs right now.

Give it time. I feel that I have a great life. I am in control of my destiny. I have friends, a great job, I'm dating, and I do whatever I want.

Use this as an opportunity to create the life that you've always wanted.


You can stuff your sorries in a sack, mister. -George Costanza
There is a special place in hell for women who don't help other women. - Madeleine Albright

Posts: 7435 | Registered: Feb 2009 | From: Western PA
suckstobeme
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Default  Posted: 5:19 PM, September 28th (Saturday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

It does hurt and sometimes it's hard to point to the exact reason why. Sometimes, it just does and it's ok to lean into it and feel the pain.

Sometimes.

Other times, it's best to focus on you and where to go from here. My downfall has always been driving over the headlights. In other words, I get upset and overwhelmed if I look too far down the road. When I do that, I tend to imagine life always being sad or always being like this.

When you stay in the moment and the immediate future, it's easier to stay centered.

You will have a good life and an authentic life with yourself, your pets, and eventually, another partner. When these pets cross over, you will know you gave them all you had and they lived great lives because of that.

You didn't go wrong. Bad things happen to great people sometimes. Your ex went very wrong and you unfortunately took the direct hit from his horrible, cruel, and empty choices.

You're not alone, ever.


BW - me
ExWH - "that one"
D - 2011
You get what you put in, and people get what they deserve.
Hard as it may be, try to never give the OP any of your power or head space.

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Abbondad
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Default  Posted: 5:22 PM, September 28th (Saturday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Erzulie,

You answered your own question ("Where did I go wrong?") yourself: you are a good person, you love your family, loved your husband.

In other words, "Nowhere." You did not "go wrong." You were wronged. You sit and sob for hours for the same reason I have and everyone on this site have: you are grieving a profound loss, and because you are sensitive and as a normal human being you are grieving as you should.

I am forty-six, so around your age. I have lost both my beloved parents within the last five years. I also lost my beloved 12 year old dog, and our other dog is almost eighteen. I will grieve her loss as well. Then my wife whom I loved deeply betrayed me and our children. I am still grieving.

I expect I will and you will suffer more losses in life. But you will more than likely find happiness as well. Especially since you ARE the person you describe yourself to be. You have a great capacity for,happiness; thus you will likely be happy. It will take time, though, as you slog through your grief.

This is not a "snap out of it" post at all. If it were, I would tell myself that first! (And I have. It never worked ;-).

What I do want to say is what I have come to realize: everything is transient, and life is utterly unpredictable. It's a double edged sword. Loss is inevitable. But I know that anything can happen--good as well as bad. I never ever thought my wife would betray me and I'd divorce her. But--as paradoxical and maybe even as contradictory as it sounds--I never thought (before I met her) I would meet someone with whom I'd be so much in love. And I am quite confident that because I do have such a capacity for love and happiness--and I want it and I will seek it--that I will find both. And life will go on.

And why are chances of adopting "slim to nil"? Hell, for that matter my mom had me when she was forty-four! (This is why I lost her when I was at a relatively young age.). She was shocked that she'd become pregnant. She and my dad long since stopped "trying." They just assumed they would have a childless marriage.

A friend of mine--in her fifties--adopted an infant from the former Soviet Union. A couple I know adopted two little girls from China.

All is not over, Erzulie, I assure you. You are in pain. It will pass. And life will continue. Hang in there, sob your tears, and keep moving.



Divorced April Fool's Day 2014

Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
-Dune


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sleepless34
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Default  Posted: 5:53 PM, September 28th (Saturday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Erzulie
Sorry for your pain. A Betrayal is really the worst type of pain, because it the person you love most hurting you when you thought they had your back. It turns your world upside down, you lose trust in others, trust in yourself and your instinct, your safety is questioned, everything is upside down.

Things that have helped me survive and may help you:
-Read Read Read. I got every book I could find on the subject of affairs and divorce and grief and loss. You are thinking about it anyway and knowledge is power.
-Talk to your friends and family. Let people support you, they will listen and empathize and even maybe make you laugh
-Understand that this is temporary and you can not avoid this pain. It is normal. If you did not feel it, you would not be the compassionate caring person you are. It is how you need to feel. You need to feel the loss.

Someone today who has been through this said to me, "Think about how bead you felt when you first found out or your worst point in this? Now think about if you feel better today than you did at that moment? Know that every day you are going to feel a little bit better and eventually you aren't going to feel anything but apathy or maybe relief that you got away from this hurtful person.

I am sorry. I know the feeling, it literally hurts your heart and chest and it is worse than any physical pain I have ever felt. You are going to be ok though...


Me BW- 40ish, awesome
Cheating scusband 40ish
2 kids, elementary school age
Bomb dropped Aug 4 out of nowhere...

Posts: 443 | Registered: Aug 2013 | From: Hell
HurtsButImOK
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Default  Posted: 6:05 PM, September 28th (Saturday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I don't have any advice or sage words of wisdom at the moment, just (((HUGS)))


Me: Awesome - 35

"I’ve learned that people will forget what you said, people will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel". –Maya Angelou

"When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be". –


Posts: 722 | Registered: Apr 2013 | From: Australia
SurelyNOT
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Default  Posted: 10:31 PM, September 28th (Saturday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

STOP being so hard on yourself. YES, this is hard, harder than I ever thought possible. I never thought in a million years I would find myself in this situation. You have to believe that it WILL get BETTER. For your sanity sake you will have to give yourself a shake, IT IS NOT YOUR FAULT. You must heal and move on, STOP being a martyr. I tell myself this on a daily basis (actually on an hourly basis, would be more accurate) The time for acceptance and adjustment begins NOW.
Good luck to you in your struggle - good luck to US ALL, who find ourselves clawing our way back to normalcy

Posts: 95 | Registered: Sep 2013
gypsybird87
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Default  Posted: 10:45 PM, September 28th (Saturday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Erzulie,

I'm in a bit of a dark place right now and not equipped to give advice, but I want you to know I understand your post completely. Every word.

I'm also 44, childless, with two furbabies, one of which is not in the best of health and may not be with me much longer. My family is small, and I mean SMALL. My aging parents live 500 miles away, my beloved aunt, 2000 miles away. I have no other family, no siblings, nothing. XWH's family was my family here. And though I still have a relationship with some of them, including a close one with his daughter... in a way I feel like an orphan. When I lost him, I lost so much more than just HIM. Someday when my parents are gone, and my furbabies, what will be the point? My usefulness, as you said, will be over.

Ugh, dark thoughts. I wish I could help cheer you but in my present state of mind I can only commiserate and let you know you are absolutely not alone in feeling this way. I hope that helps a little.

((Hugs)) to you.


Me: Looking forward to the future
Him: Left behind in the past

Rock bottom became the solid foundation on which I rebuilt my life. ~ JK Rowling


Posts: 670 | Registered: May 2013 | From: Oregon
newlysingle
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Default  Posted: 2:11 AM, September 29th (Sunday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

You are obviously a very caring and nurturing person. You don't need children or your precious furbabies to be a nurturer. One thing about not having children, is that you have the ability to give your time to others. Maybe you can be the awesome auntie to either your bio nieces/nephews or to a friend's child. If you don't have those connections, consider being a Big Sister or volunteering with children. Animal shelters are always looking for volunteers as well.

Before I had my kids, I used to volunteer at an animal shelter. I loved it. I'm a huge animal lover and loved having this outlet on top of having my own furbaby at home. Sadly, my furbaby passed away right before Dday and my kids just occupy too much of my time to volunteer there at this time.

Your are needed by many. Don't let this douchebag make you feel like you are worthless. He's a selfish POS that just needs to have his ego stroked. You are worth more than him and someone is going to love you and I mean truly love and cherish you.

Hang in there and know that you are not alone. We are all here with you and we understand your pain.


BW - Me (37)
XWH - (37) The Gnat
OW - Some dumb whore he picked up in another state and moved here here. Known as Hello Kitty.
M for 8 years, together for 10
1 DD (5), 1 DS (1 year)
Dday 3/13
Divorced 9/20/13

Posts: 824 | Registered: Mar 2013
suckstobeme
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Default  Posted: 2:37 AM, September 29th (Sunday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

[This message edited by suckstobeme at 2:39 AM, September 29th (Sunday)]


BW - me
ExWH - "that one"
D - 2011
You get what you put in, and people get what they deserve.
Hard as it may be, try to never give the OP any of your power or head space.

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Bravenewgirl
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Default  Posted: 4:46 AM, September 29th (Sunday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Oh honey! Everything Abbondad said is right on the money. You did not go wrong anywhere, which is why you will find happiness again. Your capacity for love and kindness and for forming deep bonds is also why you are hurting so much right now.

You will have a brand new life, with your head held high. Your WH, on the other hand, will have to wallow in his shitty choices forever.

I feel like my only purpose in this life is to care for them, and then I'm pretty much done with my usefulness.

This thinking needs to change! Your purpose in life also needs to be to CARE FOR YOU!!! Please love your beautiful self enough to let go of these self-annihilating words. You have a lot to give, but you also deserve to receive love and care.

I am so sorry you are hurting. Its not fair, and it SUCKS. This too shall pass. And I hope that your WH gets his nads bitten off by a vicious pit bull. Fuck him for doing this to you. And thank God your eyes are open now, and you can fly away from him into the amazing new life that such a selfish POS could never give you.

((((((((erzulie))))))))


Don't come around here no more
-Tom Petty

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Thefly559
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Default  Posted: 6:04 AM, September 29th (Sunday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

When I get into that depression , it happens often but much less than 6 months ago, I think back 20 years to when I first met my stbxww and although it was long ago I was the man . Confident , strong , secure , the best at all I did and she chased me and wanted me! Then I look it the mirror at the person she turned me into and it helps me realize how toxic she was. I know the pain you are going through very well and I can only reiterate what was said by all these great people on SI . You will get past this and you will have a great life it just takes time and effort. I know because I am right there with you. You sound like a great person . You are a great person! And you will still be a great person! Because only you define you. Nobody else can. I wish you all the best and know you are not alone in this battle.


"what does not kill you , makes you stronger"

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FaithFool
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Default  Posted: 11:34 AM, September 29th (Sunday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Erzulie, I know the pain you're talking about. Been there, cried the river and then some. It's awful and I feel for you today.

Thing is, life is not over at 44. No way!

I turned 55 the year DDay hit, and started having all those dark thoughts, no one will ever love me again, I'm going to spend the rest of my life alone, etc etc.

My mom passed away a year and a half later. She was 90 and a huge inspiration for me. It was a huge loss, but I've since realized she's always with me no matter what.

I've been alone for five years now, and it turns out that everything that happened was an opportunity to reinvent myself yet again.

The first few years are VERY hard, I'm not going to lie.

But I spent a lot of time being very good to myself, did a lot of yoga, drank a lot of wine, hung out here pretty much all the time, and eventually started to socialize again.

I'm still alone, and I'm OK with it now. I've stopped seeking and in that I've found peace.

Going back to university to take classes has been really great. It's got my brain working again on something other than the infidelity mindfuck.

I've made some new friends, but I have no intention of seeking out another partner. Because I've realized I don't need one.

That is the greatest thing to come out of the whole mess.

If someone bumps into my life, then great, we'll see.

But right now I'm fine on my own, and that's the biggest gift this life has given me so far.

Big hugs. You'll make it.

[This message edited by FaithFool at 11:36 AM, September 29th (Sunday)]


DDay: June 15, 2008
Mistakenly married Mr. Superfreak
20 years of OWs, WTF?
Divorced Dec 26, 2011
"Life is a shipwreck, but we must not forget
to sing in the lifeboats". -- Voltaire

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PhantomLimb
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Default  Posted: 2:04 PM, September 29th (Sunday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I just wanted to let you know that I relate. Helped my STBX through grad school and held off on kids. Helped him get his first "real" job and within a year, he left me for someone else.

So now I'm also alone, trying to rebuild my career, living with my parents with my 17 year-old dog.

I have the down moments you describe. All I can do is just keep moving forward inch by inch. And give my dog the best I can in this final stretch.

Yesterday I took her apple picking. I was walking down a hill after paying and I looked out at the sunset. It was so beautiful. I thought to myself "See, life isn't so bad. You're going to be happy again"-- and just then I slipped on some gravel and fell down flat on my face, scraping my knees and my wrists. I was bleeding everywhere. The apples were all mashed (they broke the fall).

I was more upset that the fall happened while I was having my first, real positive thoughts in 6 mos than because it hurt!

But I just had to laugh it off. It really was a perfect metaphor for what this whole experience is like.

We've hit rock bottom and all we can do is continue to pull ourselves out of it. And we'll be stronger for it. No one will be able to hurt us like this again. We have learned that we have a great capacity to love, cherish and support someone worthy of our care. This rupture in our lives has shown us areas where we need to work on ourselves so we don't make the same mistakes we may have made with our WWs. And we'll always mourn what has happened to us and what we've lost-- but we'll do it with the knowledge that we did our best.

Unfortunately, I find the best thing to do is lean into the pain, feel it, sit with it, let it pass. As time goes on, you gain a greater and greater knowledge of the contours of that pain. You become rich in feelings of sadness and loss. But you also become less affected by them.

... and try to watch where you're going the first time you begin to think that you're coming out of your fog! :)

((hugs)))


BS / D

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silentlyscreamin
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Default  Posted: 7:30 PM, September 29th (Sunday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Erzulie, I can totally relate. I am almost 37 yrs old and did not have human kids yet, waiting for him to get his life together. I too consider myself a good person, always helping people and doing my best to be a good person overall. It's funny because WS uses this against me, saying I am on a white horse, saving the world. He doesn't see how much I help him, which shows me that no matter what i have done for him, it was and will never be enough. This shows me it is his deficiency, not mine. I hope you can see this in yourself as well. It has nothing to do with something you did or did not do!!! Please don't be hard on yourself and don't think you do not have a life without him, because you do! You will slowly learn to recreate who you are without him.
As for having children, 44 is not too late! Don't sell yourself short. If it is something that is truly important to you, you should consider exploring options. You can see a fertility specialist to explore your options. You can retrieve your eggs and freeze them, you can get a sperm donor and see if you can have a baby now, you can consider a surrogate, etc. You can also consider adoption. My friend adopted from Korea and they have a nice program, because they foster the children and communicate with the adopting parent, while you wait. Also, i know someone who naturally, and accidentally got pregnant at age 51, yes 51 and had a healthy baby! So if it is that important to you, I urge you to explore your options now. This is something my counselor and I also discuss.
Good luck to you and please don't be so hard on yourself. It is not your deficiency! Feel free to PM anytime!


Married 5 years
DD 12/31/11 EA
DD#2 12/27/12 PA, started 9/12, ended 12/12
Status: living together due to finances but I feel continued anger and am leaning 95% toward divorce

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Saleschick
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Default  Posted: 10:12 PM, September 29th (Sunday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Thank you for staring this thread. I am having a terrible day and like many, I have no kids and a wonderful older dog with health issues. I drove to the parking lot of the local church today and cried and screamed at how the man who has loved me supposedly for 28 yeas could do this to me. I am a fighter though and I will fight my way thru this. I like to travel and while I have lost my passion for travel, I know it will come back. I attended a local Benefit on Friday night that was organized by a friend so that me me feel good. Thank you to everyone for bearing their soul here on SI. I wish NONE of us ever had to feel this pain but I am grateful for this outlet.

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Iamhappytoday
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Default  Posted: 3:42 AM, September 30th (Monday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Few threads have affected me as much as reading this and the the responses. Shed quite a few tears...

You are worthy of love and a good life. Don't you EVER sell yourself short and think that emptiness is your only companion.

You are more than this awful experience.
And you are absolutely valuable and worth being loved.


BW 39
WH 34
2DD's 15 months at start
Together 10 years, M 9
OW 22 CW, 2kids by 2 men & youngest less than 1 when affair started.
Dday 1 8/16/12 "just texting"
TT, gaslighting, denial; was always PA; he left me for her.

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