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User Topic: WH upset DD saw emails
Spelljean
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Default  Posted: 3:22 PM, November 2nd (Saturday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

A couple of months back when I came across fresh emails between WH and OW, right about the time he was promising me the world, I basically collapsed and my heart arrythmia triggered. My DD was there, as she lives with me, and she helped me, got me my meds and we got it to abort and I was fine. She saw the emails because my computer was open and she wanted to see if I had received more bad news or something and I was in no state to speak yet.

WH knows she read them, (she is 18) and still blames me for that. He said "you should have never let her read them". I got angry and said "you should never have typed them"

Why am I more guilty that DD read his cheating in black and white...rather than the fact that he was doing something that was hurting both DD and I? Why do they think we would not be hurt if we didn't find out??


WH: 41
me: BS, 45
Together 18 1/2 years, married 17
DDAY 8/2/12
OW: EA- friend of 4 months
Status: separated

Posts: 903 | Registered: May 2012 | From: California
painfulpast
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Default  Posted: 3:27 PM, November 2nd (Saturday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

OMG. You aren't more guilty. You aren't guilty. Like you said, he shouldn't have written them. Never do anything that you wouldn't want others seeing. It's a simple rule that will always keep you out of trouble.

He's just feeling like a POS because his daughter saw the 'real' him and it isn't who he was pretending to be for her. Sorry - his cover was blown for more than just you. Oh well.


It's so easy to believe someone when they're telling you exactly what you want to hear.....

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heforgotme
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Default  Posted: 3:34 PM, November 2nd (Saturday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I got angry and said "you should never have typed them"

Exactly. What a shame there was anything for her to find out. That's what he needs to focus on. Not how she found out. (Which in any case was an accident...)


D-Day 11/15/12
5 month PA
Married 20 years, 3 kids
All good is hard. All evil is easy. Dying, losing, cheating, and mediocrity is easy. Stay away from easy.
- Scott Alexander
It was the day I thought I'd never get through - Daughtry

Posts: 1075 | Registered: Feb 2013 | From: FL
DeadMumWalking
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Default  Posted: 4:22 PM, November 2nd (Saturday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Well if he hadn't typed that shit, there would be nothing for him to be embarrassed about or DD (and you) to be upset about.

What a fucking moron!!

((((Spelljean))))


Me (BS), Him (WH): early 50's
3 DS: teens!!! :)
M: 24 (19 1/2 at Dday), Together 29
Dday: Dec 2008
re-separated (in-house), for good (??) <-- should really remove these, shouldn't I...

Posts: 2541 | Registered: Aug 2009 | From: EU
Spelljean
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Default  Posted: 5:46 PM, November 2nd (Saturday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

WH believes what you don't know won't hurt you.

Maybe lots of WS believe this.

I was being hurt long before finding out the truth. He doesn't think I felt his shift in loyalties, his lies, his attitude changes, his deceit way before I found out?

Having a down day as you can tell!


WH: 41
me: BS, 45
Together 18 1/2 years, married 17
DDAY 8/2/12
OW: EA- friend of 4 months
Status: separated

Posts: 903 | Registered: May 2012 | From: California
EasyDoesIt
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Default  Posted: 5:46 PM, November 2nd (Saturday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Yeah, tell him to remember that while he's pointing one finger at you, he still has three pointing right back at him.

You did nothing wrong. If he hadn't been unfaithful, there wouldn't be emails for your daughter to see.

He should be mad at himself, not you. He isn't owning his behavior if he's blaming you.

My ex was mad that I told the ER staff exactly what he did to me. He literally yelled at me, "Why didn't you just tell them it was rough sex?"

Yeah. It was all MY fault.

[This message edited by EasyDoesIt at 5:55 PM, November 2nd (Saturday)]


Anything less than full disclosure and total transparency is pure bullshit. WARNING! No emotional pollution allowed.

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Spelljean
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Default  Posted: 8:01 PM, November 2nd (Saturday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Owning his behavior...he definitely still hasn't done that.

I was thinking today how great it would be if just once, WH said that even though I am divorcing him, he is truly sorry and was wrong. And meant it. That he was wrong to cast me in a certain light to OW and that he set the record straight with her....and his friends. Out of respect for me, all I have done for him over the course of our life together, out of appreciation for being a wonderful mother to his daughter, a great daughter in law to his parents...and a giving person that deserves at least a thank you.


WH: 41
me: BS, 45
Together 18 1/2 years, married 17
DDAY 8/2/12
OW: EA- friend of 4 months
Status: separated

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LeopoldB
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Default  Posted: 8:35 PM, November 2nd (Saturday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

If WH wanted DD to think he was a saint, he should have acted like one.



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RightTrack
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Default  Posted: 9:16 PM, November 2nd (Saturday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Spelljean,

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RightTrack
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Default  Posted: 9:20 PM, November 2nd (Saturday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I know how easy it is to get sucked in to this controlling attitude. Because he says you did something wrong and because he says it with so much conviction, it must be true. Read and re-read the comments here, talk to your friends and family; you have done NOTHING to deserve this. He is a controlling liar, bastard, terrible father and husband. Letting your daughter see that this behavior is not acceptable is important. It is good to let her know that being on your own is better than being in a controlling marriage. I hope that in the future you find someone who makes you happy and you can model a healthy relationship.

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Gemini71
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Default  Posted: 10:05 PM, November 2nd (Saturday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Excuse me???!!!! It is NOT your fault that DD read the e-mails. You were physically incapacitated because of HIS friggin' affair!!!

This is HIS fault. He wrote them. He sent them. He must OWN them.


Edited to correct stupid typos.

Two steps forward and one step backwards, is still progress.


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gonnabe2016
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Default  Posted: 10:27 PM, November 2nd (Saturday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Yea SJ, it makes total sense that, in the middle of a medical crisis, you should have had the wherewithal to *protect* him.

I *get* the whole 'what you don't know doesn't hurt you' attitude. My stbx is the same way. It's never his actions that are *wrong*....it's always the fall-out from them that are the cause of the problem.

His *upset* is not your concern.....


"Oh, what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive." - Sir Walter Scott

In my effort to be *concise*, I often come off as blunt and harsh. Sorry, don't mean to be offensive.


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Spelljean
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Default  Posted: 12:06 AM, November 3rd (Sunday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

DD says she is glad she knows those details now, she wants to know what happened . Maybe it demystifies it all for her.


WH: 41
me: BS, 45
Together 18 1/2 years, married 17
DDAY 8/2/12
OW: EA- friend of 4 months
Status: separated

Posts: 903 | Registered: May 2012 | From: California
gonnabe2016
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Default  Posted: 12:34 AM, November 3rd (Sunday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

That makes sense. Kids know when something isn't *right*. And they really aren't all that *down with* the parents that placate them with the typical platitudes. Your DD may be upset by her new-found information but she is probably a bit more light-hearted about finally knowing the *truth* of the situation.


"Oh, what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive." - Sir Walter Scott

In my effort to be *concise*, I often come off as blunt and harsh. Sorry, don't mean to be offensive.


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RippedSoul
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Default  Posted: 9:15 AM, November 3rd (Sunday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Spelljean, my DD found out at 17. As much as it hurt her, it clarified so much for her. She even knew OW's name because she'd seen SAWH texting OW while sitting next to him at church. She hasn't confronted him yet. When she does, no matter how she found out, it will be his fault that there was anything TO find out. No guilt for me. No guilt for you.


BW: 49; SLAWH: 46; M: 23 yrs
DD#1--11/30/12 (prostitute #1)
DD#2--1/29/13 (AP, escorts #1 & #2)
DD#3--9/13 (trolling MILF site)
DD#4--10/8/13 (EA with AP cont'd)
DD: 20; DD: 18; DS: 16; DS: 14
PS: I've NEVER NOT edited my posts

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Spelljean
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Default  Posted: 9:19 AM, November 3rd (Sunday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Shocking behavior I'm reading about here.

I remember when WH found out she read those emails and he felt the burning need t have a "talk" with DD and explain his side of the story. That was when he told her, "OW and I had a REAL relationship" as though that was DD's concern in the situation. Kids just want you to stop the bad behavior towards the BS, they are action oriented even more than adults, I've discovered. DD didn't want to know what WW was "feeling" for OW. She just wanted the bad behavior to stop.

Yeah, he messed up there in that talk. He really hasn't gotten one tiny thing right in this aftermath.


WH: 41
me: BS, 45
Together 18 1/2 years, married 17
DDAY 8/2/12
OW: EA- friend of 4 months
Status: separated

Posts: 903 | Registered: May 2012 | From: California
DeadMumWalking
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Default  Posted: 9:34 AM, November 3rd (Sunday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

That was when he told her, "OW and I had a REAL relationship"

What a fucking asshole

((((Spelljean & DD))))


Me (BS), Him (WH): early 50's
3 DS: teens!!! :)
M: 24 (19 1/2 at Dday), Together 29
Dday: Dec 2008
re-separated (in-house), for good (??) <-- should really remove these, shouldn't I...

Posts: 2541 | Registered: Aug 2009 | From: EU
sparkysable
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Default  Posted: 9:37 AM, November 3rd (Sunday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

well, if there was nothing for her to read, than we wouldn't be having these problems, would we?

hand him a broom and let him rugsweep his own shit. he is obviously blameshifting. do not feel bad, she has a right to know, and she's old enough to understand.


D-day OW#1 2/2004; R for 6 years; D-day OW#2 5/2010

Marriages that start this way, stepping over the bodies of loved ones as the giddy couple walks down the aisle, are not likely to last.


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heforgotme
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Default  Posted: 1:23 PM, November 3rd (Sunday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

"OW and I had a REAL relationship"

Omg.

What an idiot.


D-Day 11/15/12
5 month PA
Married 20 years, 3 kids
All good is hard. All evil is easy. Dying, losing, cheating, and mediocrity is easy. Stay away from easy.
- Scott Alexander
It was the day I thought I'd never get through - Daughtry

Posts: 1075 | Registered: Feb 2013 | From: FL
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