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diffeentguy
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Default  Posted: 9:34 AM, November 6th (Wednesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I posted my story a few weeks ago. Because things have changed drastically, I decided to make a totally new post.

Wife and I have been married for 11 years, 2 kids 5 yrs old. Over the last 2 months, my wife and I have been discussing our marriage. It has been the worst 2 months of my life. First, she admitted to being an escort for 6 months before she was severely injured, went to rehab, changed her life, and met me. Later, she admitted to having a one night stand one week before our 2nd anniversary. In the same sentence, she admitted to kissing a coworker 1.5 years ago. Something didn't seem right. Bottom line, through TT, she admitted to dozens of ONS with friends and coworkers throughout our marriage. I knew she was lying about most of this. Then she admitted to multiple versions of sex for drugs 4 years ago. These were elaborate stories. The final version seemed to be that she got back into crack-cocaine (which I never knew she did before). She admitted to having sex for crack for about 6 months.

I was devastated. Still, some of her details did not add up. We have gone to see 3 different counselors, including her psychiatrist. We went to our pastor and his wife. I even taped her confessing some of these things to her friend.

Now she is saying she made most of it up. I will admit that I have confirmed that some of these things did not happen. But I am at a total loss here. Why would someone who is genuinely remorseful make up all of these horrible facts (with extreme detail). She says she doesn't know why she lied. That sounds like total BS.

Now I am being tortured. I know in my head that some of these things didn't happen. But I am stuck thinking about them. Part of me thinks that the only reason you lie, is because there is something far worse that you don't want the other to know.

Also, I am stuck thinking about the PA she did have, the emotional affair she had 1.5 yrs ago with coworker, and her escorting days (which she admits to). We are talking 80-100 clients over a 6 month timeframe.

I have to decide what to do about the things I know happened, but my question for now is...

Has anyone ever seen a case where a spouse made up infidelities on top of the ones that did happen? What gets me is she admitted to sleeping with first guy and kissing EA coworker in the same sentence. I know the kiss didn't happen. So who confesses to cheating on their spouse and throws in another one on top of it that didn't happen? It is driving me freaking crazy.


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diffeentguy
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Default  Posted: 9:39 AM, November 6th (Wednesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Everything I have been able to confirm did not happen. It seems every thime I confronted her with evidence she was lying, she dug herself deeper into this lie. When I taped her and her friend, she admitted to things that I know didn't happen. There has been a pill addiction that has been the sourse of our problems going on 4-5 years now, but no evidence of this kind of deep psychological problem. We were a relatively normal middle class family.

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Josephine01
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Default  Posted: 10:05 AM, November 6th (Wednesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I've read on here where WS admitted to affairs they didn't have. Not to the extreme that your spouse did though. Could it be because of the drugs she doesn't remember exact details and she just fills in the blanks with plausible people and events.

I am sorry I can't be of much help. I just wanted you to know that you have been heard.

((((Hugs))))


Me, 42 BS
H, 61 WH
2 boys 19 and 15 years old
Married 24 years

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diffeentguy
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Default  Posted: 12:35 PM, November 6th (Wednesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Thank you for the response. I have posted my story here and another site. It does kind of hurt when no one responds. Apparently people hope I'm a troll, which makes things worse. Im mean really. How bad must it be if no one on an infidelity website believes it?

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Josephine01
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Default  Posted: 1:14 PM, November 6th (Wednesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

diffeentguy,

Don't worry someone will be around to help. I am sure people are just trying to think of the right thing to say.


Me, 42 BS
H, 61 WH
2 boys 19 and 15 years old
Married 24 years

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lordhasaplan?
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Default  Posted: 1:21 PM, November 6th (Wednesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Diff,
1. First thing is to focus on YOU.
2. Go get tested for STD's.
3. Go to a lawyer and know your rights.
4. Get an IC and start pouring through what you feel?
5. Separate finances so she canít run off with your cash.
6. Drug addicts are liars, cheaters are liars, and you have the double whammy. Trying to make sence of crazy will make you nuts. You canít make sense of crazy you just need to separate yourself from it.

Draw boundaries. Mine would start with rehab, whether she is actively involved in drugs or not, if she hasnít effectively rehabbed itís just a matter of time. My guess is there might be abuse in her past or some major traumatic event she is running from. You need to make sure she is not able to do motre damage.
LHAP?


D-day: 5/18/10, lies and TT till (11/26/10)

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diffeentguy
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Default  Posted: 1:31 PM, November 6th (Wednesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Thanks for the replies. I have done several of these things already. She has done rehab, although she still takes some prescribed medications (that she abused sometimes until I locked it away). We went to get STD testing at the county health clinic. That's part of what I don't understand. We spent $150 on that because she told me she had unprotected sex for crack. We have spent a total of $800 on testing, counseling, babysitting for the counseling, etc. I don't mean to harp on the money, but it is one aspect of it. Why confess these things to counselors, nurses at the health clinic, one of her friends if none of it happened? Why shell out all of that money for some giant lie. I seriously can't fathom anyone but a psychopath doing this.

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Default  Posted: 1:33 PM, November 6th (Wednesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Your WW may have been trying to end your relationship by making the situation so hurtful and extreme that you would leave her, thus placing the blame of ending the marriage on you. Basically, she was trying to drive you away. If you left her, her self-image as the poor wronged WW would be preserved and she would not have to face the consequences of her actions. At this point, she has had a change of heart and is now telling you the truth.

I think your bigger issues are whether she is capable of telling the truth and why did not tell the truth. It sounds like she has told this tale to multiple parties (two different counsellors, psychiatrist, pastor, friends). I am not an expert but this seems like extreme behaviour to me. What is her reaction when you/counsellor/psychiatrist ask her about her lies? Does she have an explanation?


BW (me)42
WH 44
3 daughters, 1 son
Married 10 years, together 13
DDay 3/14/2013, four year PA
In R
"Sometimes you have to accept the fact that certain things will never go back to the way they used to be."

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diffeentguy
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Default  Posted: 1:40 PM, November 6th (Wednesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

1. I have tried to focus on myself and the kids.

2. Got tested. HIV free, but some tests come back tomorrow (Chlamydia)

3. Haven't seen a lawyer, but I know my rights. She admitted to some doctor shopping behavior. I told her that if we divorce, it is full custody or she goes to jail.

4.Seen a counselor twice. It does help.

5.Had her taken off accounts 2 years ago when she was struggling with addiction.

6.I am a recovering addict. We met because we worked at a rehab together (same organization, different cities). I know she is an addict, and I could handle that. I think I could even handle the things she admits now are true, but I can't see myself healing from this if I can't understand why she has been lying in such horrific fashion. It just creates doubt for me. Did she lie about all of it? Is she hiding more? She does seem genuine now. Part of the problem the last 2 months is my gut was telling me she was lying, but I thought she was hiding more, not making it up.

I was hoping someone had seen this before or something. What causes an otherwise rational person to tell their spouse these horrible things? I could understand I none of it happened and she had a mental illness. I'm sorry. Just having a mental breakdown here. Imagining my wife doing the things she described in detail over the last month has really broken me. And now I'm supposed to feel all better because it wasn't true? That's partly how she feels. Ohm but she did cheat on me. And she was an escort. Oh MY GOD. Just that fact alone could (should) be a deal breaker.


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diffeentguy
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Default  Posted: 1:48 PM, November 6th (Wednesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

We only "came clean" last week. We haven't been back to the counselor yet. At first I was extremely relieved.

But that didn't last long.
I bounce between
A. no way she made all of that up
B. Jesus, she made all of that up. What a loon.


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diffeentguy
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Default  Posted: 1:54 PM, November 6th (Wednesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Trying to end the relationship would make sense except
1. She has nowhere to go.
2. She seems happy with our life.
3. She was extremely remorseful acting when she was telling me these things.

She has given me some reasons why she thinks she did it, but none of them strike me as genuine. She told me that maybe she was trying to hurt me. She was pushing me to see how much I could take. She started lying and each time I confronted her with it, she would dig deeper.

But these don't make sense to me. I told her on several occasions that we were getting a divorce, that she had been too used. I slept away from the house on one occasion and in a different room frequently during the last 2 months. Almost every day, she would ask for reassurances that I wasn't leaving her that day. "No separation, no divorce today?" I called her every horrible name in the book and have destroyed property and our bedroom wall one night. I am not normally a violent person and do not abuse her. I just couldn't take any more.


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Default  Posted: 2:35 PM, November 6th (Wednesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I still think as I have responded to you before that your wife's priority needs to be getting clean. I don't know if the things she told you are true or not and honestly neither do you. NOt trying to be cruel, just honest.

Your wife is an addict. Addicts lie. Now which things are lies are hard for us the loved ones of addicts to figure out and you will most likely never know for sure.

My son has told me things that were just so far fetched at times that they drove me insane wondering if they were true or not.

He told me once that a dr told him he has cancer. Now, I know he has problems, I know he has been to dr's and had many tests done. I know he probably has cancerous cells, but did the dr really tell him he has cancer? I don't know that and most likely my son doesn't either. He was high when he told me and he was probably high when he went to the dr.

Was you wife high when she told you all of these things? Maybe they are half truths and maybe she really doesn't know herself what is true if she was high when they happened.

Try to get your wife some help for her drug problem.


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Default  Posted: 2:41 PM, November 6th (Wednesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I can't give you much advice but I can tell I became a violent person after my wife confessed. I put a big hole in one of out wall's and threw pictures of us against the wall.. my mc said it's not totally abnormal to get violent after being betrayed so badly.....

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I can't give you much advice but I can tell I became a violent person after my wife confessed. I put a big hole in one of out wall's and threw pictures of us against the wall.. my mc said it's not totally abnormal to get violent after being betrayed so badly.....

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Default  Posted: 2:45 PM, November 6th (Wednesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

You should have her take a polygraph test. At the very least you will find out what she has not been lying about.


BS 42
WW 41
married 15, together 17
no children
D-day 7/31/13
WW had a 20-month EA/PA
Status: separated and divorcing

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diffeentguy
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Default  Posted: 2:48 PM, November 6th (Wednesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Thanks Butterfly. We have been working on her addiction. She has been doing much better recently, which was part of he reason all of this started. We were trying to reconnect and spending more time talking.

Thank whyme. It is good to hear that I am not emotionally abusive. I recorded my wife "confessing" a bunch of these lies to her friend. At one point, they did talk about what I had done was a form of abuse. (That really pissed me off. Kind of a cruel twist now).


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diffeentguy
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I had questions about the polygraph. I know some methods are more effective than others. I already told my wife she would be required to take one. There is only one place in town that does them. If he isn't certified, or if he doesn't use a method with good results, I guess we will have to travel for it. I am hoping for verification that she is being honest, or worst case a parking lot confession.

Just given what I know is pretty horrifying. I knew she was promiscuous before we married. I didn't like it, but I loved her. I am sure finding out your wife was an escort would be a deal breaker for many. Deep down, I THINK I can eventually get over that. And the mind movies are still really bad. I think I asked for too much detail about the time she admits to having sex. Through some deductive reasoning I even know the damn date.

I feel like I am obsessed. I spend all day in my office or at home on this website, TAM and reddit reading about infidelity. I will be lucky if Im not eventually fired.

I did tell my boss/friend. Other than counselors, he was the only person I have shared this with. Partly cuz I wanted him to know why I am flaking out so bad. But also I needed to share with someone.


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Default  Posted: 3:05 PM, November 6th (Wednesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

diffeentguy,

I know this is tough, and although each story varies, their are constants in each one that will help to set the groundwork for healing.

First, All infidelity involves lies, period. Its required for the deception to continue.

In my case, and it sounds like your too, it could be pathological. Liers lie, and the extremes vary.

Knowing that, only believe the facts that you can verify. Try and pass of the lies that you cant confirm.

Second, realize that an adulteress is made by one affair. Multiples are bad, but the facts are, once is enough and tells you what she is capable of.

Thirdly, you have the addiction. That's a compounding issue, because addicts will do whatever is necessary to get high.

I would ask that you don't over-think this by trying to add up the affairs or wrongs in each case, just recognize that there are three issues to deal with; Lies, Infidelity and addiction.

In my opinion, reconciling with one issue is hard, dealing with three is impossible by yourself.

Get professional help for the both of you, and start setting up a support structure of friends and family for yourself and kids.

Recognize that you cant fix this, period. SHE has to want to do it, and SHE has to do the work.

Also realize that you need to make alternate plans for your own healing and future, not based on her. Seek counseling, protect your kids, and separate your finances.

Take care of your mental, physical and emotional health, for your children's sake. Realize that you are a single parent now, at least until she gets her stuff together.

And, just in my opinion, set a timeline of required behaviors you consider deal-breakers.

Stick to your guns, and don't bend any lines.

And remember, everyone here is here for you if you need advice, or just need to vent.

Fire


Me, BS-54
WW-49
DD, 1/9/2011

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Default  Posted: 4:21 PM, November 6th (Wednesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Hi diffeentguy,
I've seen this kind of behavior before, but the source can always be something different.

The commonality is your wife has serious mental issues, requires counseling/IC and likely medication, as well as the desire to change if there is to be any improvement in your relationship.

Some people with this are simple compulsive liars and have used this as a form of attention mechanism (along with the infidelity) to fill deep holes dug by family/upbringing issues and trauma. Others, it might be personality disorder, such as borderline, narcissistic or (hopefully not) antisocial personality disorder.

Other times, it can be a light form of schizophrenia where they suffer memory distortions and/or auditory or visual hallucinations. Have you had arguments with her about situations as short as in the last 2 weeks where she recalls things drastically different from you?

The list goes on and on... but the one common point is your wife needs to identify/understand her issues 100% AND be willing to get the help she needs. And even at that, you will be in for a long haul of these behaviors so YOU have to decide if you're going to be up to the task also or simply cut and run for your well being! (Believe me, if it's a PD, you might be wiser to high tail and cut your losses now...).

Good luck no matter what!


BS (ME): 44
WS(HER): 42
9 years
OM#1- 20-something loser, stole bunch of my things after she had sex with him in our bed (no condoms, STDs)
OM#2- 24 year old, unemployed loser, lives with mom & dad
DDay 1/2012
NC 3/20/2012
SGASDay 4/1/2012

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Default  Posted: 4:51 PM, November 6th (Wednesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

What MediumRare said!

I have seen this behavior up close and personal although it didn't have anything to do with infidelity.
Wild lies so above and beyond any possible realm of normalcy and for what? Absolutely nothing. Not even extra attention as far as I can see although they were probably hoping for it but the lies were too wild to be taken seriously. Yes, I absolutely knew they were not true.

I also saw this type of behavior up close and personal and it did have to do with infidelity but there were clear reasons for all the wild lies...attention getting and husband stealing.

One case is confirmed over multiple times, borderline personality disorder and the other, I'm sure, will come back the same.

I'm not trying to arm chair diagnose but something is clearly not alright here and it sounds like it goes beyond addiction although I'm sure that's more than enough.
My thoughts are with you as you sort this out.


Me: 42 BS
Him: 38 ws
Ow: 44 head case, no obs
5 DD's: 21, 18, 17, 15, 10
Last D-day: August 2012 with lots of very blurry lines.

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