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purplejacket4
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Default  Posted: 3:38 PM, March 20th (Thursday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

But why kill Jolene? Didn't it seem they worked for the same people? I mean Berlin was so worried and all. And that black cowboy guy that worked for Red? What a disappointment he was.


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ajsmom
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Default  Posted: 7:58 PM, March 20th (Thursday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I think Tom killed Jolene because he didn't like how she was bonding with Liz. My guess is he thought she would expose him.


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Dreamboat
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Default  Posted: 10:08 PM, May 12th (Monday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I get it ! I finally get it!!


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So shake him off
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metamorphisis
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Default  Posted: 10:18 PM, May 12th (Monday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Well then fill me in for heavens sake

I just have more questions. Red could be her dad (hence the burn scars) but so could Berlin. Red could have convinced Berlin that his daughter was dead .. who the heck knows?

Anyhow.. awesome awesome show.. but I am just as lost as ever

ETA) They both had that picture of young Lizzy. I think it was Lizzy anyway. Maybe it isn't even her.

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Dreamboat
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Default  Posted: 10:53 PM, May 12th (Monday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

First, let me warn that his contains spoilers so do not read if you have not watched and do not want to know beforehand.

You have been warned

OK, this is what I think, based upon the story the "guard"/Berlin told the FBI in the hospital and everything that has happened previously.

Berlin told the FBI that the guy the called Berlin was in the KGB but then his DD fell in love with a dissident (I think that was the word he used). So his bosses punished him by sending him to Siberia. Then his enemies sent him a watch that had a picture of his DD (this is key), and then sent her ear and then her finger, etc.

In the last 2 scenes, Berlin was looking at the watch with a picture of his DD (it was and old pic of a young woman), and then showed Red looking at the same pic and taking off his shirt showing burn marks.

So here is my theory -- Red is Liz's biological father. But the man he is now is so far removed from the family man he was that he states that her father is dead. Long ago he fell in love with Berlin's DD and M her and took her to America and they had a child and lived happily for 4 years. Who was Red before he met Berlin's DD? I suspect a spy of some sort. So then one of Red's enemies kidnapped his wife/Berlin's DD and tried to kill him and 4 yr old Liz by setting the house on fire. Red is able to get Liz out, asks Sam to raise her, and goes hunting for the people who took his wife. And he becomes the ruthless SOB that we now see. Berlin blames Red for his DD's torture and death and has been plotting a way to take him down for 20 years. But I am not sure if he sent Tom to protect Liz (because she is his GD) and to put her in harms way (because she is Red's DD).


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So shake him off
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scaredyKat
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Default  Posted: 11:35 PM, May 12th (Monday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Interesting theories, Dreamboat! But is Tom really dead?


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Dreamboat
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Default  Posted: 12:04 AM, May 13th (Tuesday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

But is Tom really dead?

I don't think so because he is such an interesting character. I would think that the writers want to keep him around because it is still not clear whether is a bad guy or possibly trying to protect Liz, in a very screwed up way. They can take his story in so many different directions. So I think Liz did not kill him, but left him to die and he slithered away before he actually died.


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So shake him off
-- Shake It Out, Florence And The Machine

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