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User Topic: *Cough* Cat people, where are your boundries?
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Default  Posted: 8:52 AM, December 18th (Wednesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

My comments replicate what many people have already said but I'd also add that any scratching post you may have needs to be large, stable and tall enough that it doesn't get knocked over when a cat stands on hind legs to stretch out and scratch. If it's too short or unstable, they won't use it because it will (or has already) fall over. Once that happens, forget it, they won't return to it.

You may also have to experiment with their preferred scratching of mine prefers the carpet(on the cat furniture post) and wood only. the other likes sisal-cord so their other piece of furniture has sisal cord. It's a good thing my kitties aren't spoiled

As far as the litter box...if vet checked and all is okay, then try setting up another litter box as suggested. Ensure any setup are kept clean...I clean their 2 boxes twice a day (scoopable litter) without fail. I've, luckily, never had problems with them going in other places.

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Default  Posted: 9:35 AM, December 18th (Wednesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Oh and another note if you set up two litterboxes, put them in different areas of the house. Sometimes when cats are fighting for dominance the path to the litterbox becomes a prime attack spot and the weaker cat might not want to cross the bully cat's path.

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Default  Posted: 10:34 AM, December 18th (Wednesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Yet another confirmation of the "make sure scratching surfaces are tall enough - they should be tall enough that your cat can stand on his hind legs, completely stretch his front legs up the post, and still have a little room above it. Horizontal scratchers (like the cardboard scratchers) can be shorter, but even so, if they aren't big enough, most cats won't use them. I have a double-wide inclined cardboard scratcher. (Yeah, it's not hard to make the same kind of thing... I just bought because it was easier.)

And, as others have said, try different types of scratching materials. Different cats have different preferences. Most people swear by sisal, but I've yet to have a cat that liked scratching the sisal. No, all mine have preferred the plain-old carpet covered - probably because those make the most mess once they start really getting shredded.

Speaking of messes - I haven't had to deal with the peeing issue (well, except for a cat that died a few years ago, but his were known health issues that made walking and standing difficult for him). But if it is an issue where the cat does not like to use a dirty box, you might consider one of the automated boxes. I had a LitterMaid years ago, and it was ok, and not much more expensive to use than a regular box (I just emptied and re-used the plastic containers where the box dumps the waste.)

Now we have a Cat Genie - it uses plastic pellets, a cleansing solution, and water to wash the pellets after each use. It's a mixed bag. We prefer it because the box is always clean for the cats, and we don't have to scoop. On the down side - the pellets get tracked more than regular litter does, and it's difficult to deal with that. And there are some known issues with the boxes - mainly with the water sensor - that means you sometimes have to fiddle with the thing frequently. And, of course, it's kind of expensive. Even with all of that, we've found it's the best solution for us.

Having a box that is always clean, though, might be an answer.... but if he just still likes "marking", even though he is fixed, there might not be much you can do except keep him confined when you aren't there to see him.

Two final suggestions for the scratching - citrus-scented Febreeze. Most cats hate the smell of citrus, so if you spray the couch with a citrus scent frequently, that may help. Also, it might only take a couple of weeks to "train" them out of using it... you might be able to use the Febreeze for a short time just to discourage them.

And the second suggestion - I've recommended these before (and I don't have any relationship to the company, we just found they worked well): Jumpo trainers ( They are basically two hard plastic squares connected with a very short bungee. You set them (similar to a mouse trap, except they only make noise), and the slightest touch makes them go off. They are LOUD. If you can arrange these such that the cats will set them off any time they try to scratch, that might work. I've found them to be VERY effective. The ones we have are bright green, and we don't even have to set them anymore. If the cats even see that color of green, they won't go anywhere near it.

[This message edited by osxgirl at 10:35 AM, December 18th (Wednesday)]

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Default  Posted: 2:08 PM, December 18th (Wednesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I've trained all of my cats not to scratch anything but the scratching posts and the cat tower.
It takes a bit of time...lots of positive reinforcement, and Mommy making a fool of herself showing them what they can scratch. Yeah, I looked pretty retarded bending over and "scratching" the posts and tower and repeatedly saying good girl or good boy for Mommy. My friends think I'm nuts, but no tape, no stinky spray, no crazy furniture costs. I did have to keep blankets and quilts on furniture until the whole training "took". It took each cat no more than 3 months. I got buns of steel from so much squating and bending over!
You do have to continue the positive verbal reinforcement of good kitty kitty though!
Oh, and my oldest cat thought that running to the scratching post after doing something very naughty was her get out of jail free pass! So if she got into the toilte paper or had a skein of yarn strewn all over the house, or jumped on top of the kitchen cabinets and broke an urn, she would run like crazy to the scratching post for her good kitty/girl!

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Default  Posted: 2:17 PM, December 18th (Wednesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage


I looked pretty retarded bending over and "scratching" the posts and tower and repeatedly saying good girl or good boy for Mommy.

OMG! You guys! This is pure entertainment!

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Default  Posted: 2:26 PM, December 18th (Wednesday), 2013View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

You want entertainment? My DH finds it quite amusing when I set up the Jumpo trainers.

Did I mention that the slightest touch sets them off?

That they are really LOUD when they are set off?

And by the way - I startle easily and really hate loud noises.

It is nearly impossible to set those things up without them going off at least once or twice. I'm sure I jumped higher than the cats do.

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