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User Topic: Well, there was more. Breaking point: am I in shock?
realitybites
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Default  Posted: 5:46 AM, January 6th (Monday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

This stuff is so hard. No doubt. Then to keep hearing more is like water torture. Like the frog that slowly gets boiled in water you just sorta get used to the water temperature....until it boils you to death.

And I know how it feels, it is a sick twisted type of logic but the BS almost feels relief when they get what they think is the "worse" of the story. We are so looking for some kind of honesty, some openess, that when they do hammer home another horrible truth we don't see right away the absolute horror of it, we just go "wow, we had a great conversation and I feel my WS was so "honest" now". And we THINK this is healing.

I think you going to your own IC is critical. I think in fact you have been avoiding it and avoiding the pain you might have to face as you too peel away the layers of the onion that are your emotions.

Not saying you guys will or will not make it. But trying to "help" him along the way and fix his issues will drown you in your own slow depression and anger. It will hit, trust us.


Posts: 5613 | Registered: Apr 2005 | From: florida
steadfast1973
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Default  Posted: 6:13 AM, January 6th (Monday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

You say you had no problem with porn... I think at this point, it's safe to say you should. All of these behaviors are intimacy avoiding behaviors. He needs some IC, at the least. I am in a similar boat (fortunately my WH's rock bottom was one escort... But he did watch a ton of tranny porn and webcams of them masturbating. As well as a TON of other porn) and we are unable to find a CSAT anywhere near us, and skype sessions are extremely expensive, and not covered by our insurance (we have no out of network coverage for psych).


Me- 40- BS Him- 36- WH D-day#1 5/25/09 3 mo. EA d-day#2 11/06/13 Prostitute 11/5/13 in R
"I've seen your flag on the marble arch, our love is not a victory march, it's a cold and broken hallelujah."- Leonard Cohen

Posts: 2240 | Registered: Jul 2009 | From: Midwest
confused615
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Default  Posted: 6:38 AM, January 6th (Monday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Hi. My FWH cheated on me with a man. He found him on CL and gave him a blow job. I got the details from OM, the day after I found FWH's secret email account. So I know exactly what..and how..it was done.

I've known for 3 years. Several months ago, he "got it." He also volunteered to take a poly..and he did. It was "just" the one BJ.

I am very happily R'd with my FWH. It took a lot for me to get here. I was in shock for a very long time. It sounds to me like you are too. Be kind to yourself.

There are a few more of us here on SI who are R-ing with a spouse who cheated with the same sex. Im not sure why they don't post more often. But I don't usually post any details about my reason for being here because of the responses of "ewww!" and "why are you still with him." Which, BTW, everyone, that is rude, whether you say it "gently" or not. I understand the reason you say it..I have the same response when I read about a couple trying to R from a LTA. Or their spouse was into teenagers. Or they had sex with their cousin, or whatever. My point is, ALL of us are here because we were betrayed( we BS's anyway). We are all in pain. Are some situations worse than others? I think so. But telling someone who has invested years..and children.. they should just leave..well, when I hear that it makes me feel like it's hopeless, and that something is wrong with ME if I don't leave.

A BS trying to R with a WS who had same sex encounters is dealing with the SAME betrayal all of you are...the characters are just different.

Multiple encounters sounds like SA to me. That is another messy situation. But, OP, if YOU want to R with this man, you can try. He must want it to.


BS(me)41
FWH 45
4 kids..21,20,11,9
M: June 2001
D-Day: 8/10/10
Status: Happily Reconciled.

..that feeling you get in your stomach, when you heart's broken. It's like all the butterflies just died.


Posts: 7153 | Registered: Jan 2011 | From: Indiana
Kelany
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Default  Posted: 6:54 AM, January 6th (Monday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I'd highly suggest "Out of the Shadows" by Patrick Carnes for both of you to read.

"Mending a Shattered Heart" by Stefanie Carnes

"Living with Your Husbands Secret Wars" by Marsha Means

Those are a good start to delve into while looking for SA resources. Also, porn must be off the table now, it will just feed his addiction.


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DDay 1 - Jul 11
DDay 2 - Jul 12
R Dec 12

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catstail
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Default  Posted: 7:31 AM, January 6th (Monday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I do actually understand your feelings. I have been there and done that. I get it.

I went through something similar. He had first admitted to a LTA with a woman. That just about killed me.

We reconciled and were moving on and then I found out the rest of the story about a year later...And there was more...lots more...and oddly it didn't move me as much as the first admission.

He was the one with the problem....he has to live with the things he'd done while we were married.

We are still together, but I have paid off our mountain of debt and am in a good position to ship out if this problem should raise its ugly head again..

For the record, I was one who said I would leave if my spouse cheated on me....and I'm still here 7 years later...and surprisingly pretty happy.

And I'm not an idiot with my head in the sand either.

Having said that....it wasn't easy. Had he not done an abrupt about face and got his shit together in a hurry..I would be long gone.

Now you know the reality of your WS. You can make your decisions from there.


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Justgreatnews
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Default  Posted: 8:31 AM, January 6th (Monday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Agree with the others about the shock. I was shocked just reading it.

This is probably one of those situations where there is no way to grasp the gravity of the problem right now. Your husband certainly seems to have issues that are not easily solved, and with require much professional help. May be a long road, and you will have to prepare for that.


Posts: 261 | Registered: Dec 2013 | From: United States
hardtimesinlife
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Default  Posted: 9:47 AM, January 6th (Monday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I don't think you are in shock. I think you are relieved to know the truth, hopeful that he has hit rock-bottom and is ready to make serious changes within himself and confident that you can take care of yourself it the need should arise.

I dealt with many of the things you are talking about. Didn't find evidence of same sex partner but wouldn't be a bit surprised. I dealt with some things that were even more depraved than you've described, as a matter of fact. The difference is that there was never true remorse, he didn't confess anything that I didn't find out or hint that I knew and there was never a willingness to change (only a willingness to claim he'd changed and wouldn't do that ever again).

I suspect your emotions will roller coaster, just like R from anything, but I think you are safely out of the "shock" phase. Hugs. This shit isn't for the faint of heart


Ddays 2004 & 2007
I cut my losses mid 2013
Feeling happier every day :)

Posts: 6065 | Registered: Apr 2006 | From: Florida
solus sto
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Default  Posted: 12:25 PM, January 6th (Monday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

As things unfold, be sure to pay close attention not only to actions, but to your own feelings. This is not all about him. You factor in, too. You are not obligated to offer to "see him through" this. "Through" may be years and years away. And sadly, even after years and years, you may find that there was never any real progress made, that you're still in the same place, only with years' worth of additional accumulation of filth. This is not a given, but nor is it an unusual outcome.

If he is not with a CSAT and with a psychiatrist (because he needs a thorough evaluation, as well as to have any comorbidities such as depression addressed), he's not doing what needs to be done.

IC with a generic IC will not do it.

It just won't.

You say you're not sure what IC will do for you. First, with the RIGHT IC--and that might not be the one chosen by your husband (how did he choose this person?)--IC will give you some distance and clarity and strength to assess things the way they are, not the way you want them to be. S/he will also help you see what you DERIVE--the secondary gains you earn--from staying with a man so very sick. The latter is very important. Pay attention to it. A lot of attention.

IC will help you gather tools to make the right decisions for yourself.

I think it is VERY important that your IC be in no way affiliated with your husband's. I'd look for one who is experienced working with BSs of SAs.

And I think it's important to table MC until he's made some serious inroads in his own IC---with a CSAT.


BS-me, 52
WH (Trac-fone), 52, PD
2 kids-DD25, DS18
multiple d-days
DIVORCING
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Posts: 8342 | Registered: Jan 2011 | From: midwest
Girlietoo
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Default  Posted: 12:38 PM, January 6th (Monday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I just want to say that you impress the hell out of me. I think, whatever happens, you are going to be just fine. I'm very sorry this happened to you, I hope your spouse is able to heal himself and be the loving husband you deserve.


Me- 40
Him- 47
March 9, 2013- the day my heart died

Posts: 235 | Registered: Mar 2013 | From: Canada
Thessalian
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Default  Posted: 7:03 PM, January 6th (Monday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Wow, what an amazing outpouring of support. Thank you all so much for your input, it means a lot to me, particularly since we are overseas and my outlets are very limited. I have avoided writing a user profile until now, there was just too much to put in, so I'll reply at length now - I'll try to address everyone.

Still feeling strong today, so thank you all. I went to IC yesterday, but she was not very good. She offered little advice, asked if I was eating and sleeping (which I am), said, "You seem like you have a plan, so perhaps I can just be here for you as someone to talk to." I need solid tools here and advice, not just an open ear - I have a couple of those.

solus sto: how did he choose this person?

We're overseas. Options are limited. He picked one whose experience seemed most appropriate. I'll keep looking after the major holiday season, which is approaching here.

solus sto:You are not obligated to offer to "see him through" this.

Oh my god. Yes. This is my biggest problem right now. I keep repeating this to myself over and over. I have been lucky enough to be redeemed in my life. I want to give that gift to WH, because it's such a rare and lovely one. I know he has to want it, but the thought of crushing his only chance at real redemption is very painful to me. I know I need to look after my own needs, and I am. But I do think about this a lot.

realitybites: Like the frog that slowly gets boiled in water you just sorta get used to the water temperature....until it boils you to death.

Another huge concern of mine: am I just now used to the higher water temperature? Human beings can get used to just about anything. I have been used to bad situations before, and when I got out of them, realized how ridiculous it was for me to be hanging around. I am open to the idea that this is one of those. I can take a lot, sometimes more than I should. But I don't feel miserable all the time either, so... I dunno. We'll see.

confused615: A BS trying to R with a WS who had same sex encounters is dealing with the SAME betrayal all of you are...the characters are just different.

I agree. The issue for me is the BETRAYAL. The lying. The secrets. The secret life. The cutting me out. The holding back parts of himself. The self-delusion. Saying "I have a low sex drive" and really believing it while all this was going on. The ability to do so many things in secret and convince yourself in the light of day that you're a good husband and that those things aren't really happening. Putting me in the good-girl "Madonna" position in some Madonna-Whore thing.

I knew my H had a fluid sexuality when I married him. He made it clear to me from the beginning that he is 90% interested in women, about 5% interested in men, and 5% curious about "other". His betrayals during our relationship follow that sexual pattern - mostly women, one mess-around with a guy, and three transsexual prostitutes, so no big surprises on that front. This has never been an issue for me. On the contrary, I was attracted to the fact that he was so honest and open. I felt that someone who could acknowledge a little sexual fluidity indicated someone who was unafraid of themselves: obviously I was vastly wrong on that front, but I still feel that the scattered gender of OPs isn't a factor here. What is a factor is the lying and extreme repression. He could admit an interest, but couldn't admit that he wanted to be actively sexual with anyone (women OR men).

steadfast1973: You say you had no problem with porn... I think at this point, it's safe to say you should.

I'm interested in more of your (and SamanthaBaker's) thoughts on this. I've had my fair share of sex partners and boyfriends before my marriage, and I've never been with anyone who didn't at least occasionally view porn. That's never really concerned me. Plus, given that WH is occasionally turned on by thoughts of men, and I don't have a penis and never will, I don't see a problem with porn as an outlet for that. I'm young, but I've never seen any example of repressed core sexuality resulting in a healthy mind. Porn still doesn't bother me: is there a reason it should? Not really interested in that Sisyphean fight unless there's a good reason, because once that line gets drawn in the sand, every cross of it is a betrayal. I don't want to draw more lines of betrayal for him to cross if I don't get upset about it anyway. Plus, I have plenty to be upset about. I feel like I really don't need to make myself upset over something that just doesn't tick me off.

Justgreatnews: This is probably one of those situations where there is no way to grasp the gravity of the problem right now.

Yup. Totally. I'm just gonna surf this wave until I figure out what it's made of.

iwillNOT: It occurs to me, though, that maybe you feel relief somewhat, that he was honest and that he is becoming more self aware? That he is finally, possibly being authentic?

Yes. Absolutely. I am not scared of this darkness. I've looked into deeper pits (though not from so close up). I am scared of his inability to face himself. Without that, nothing can be done. There's no point in even continuing.

There's nothing logical about being here now, I know. But here is my plan:

1) WH continues volunteering hard truths until he can really say he feels "clean" and that the whole situation is on the table. That there is nothing he feels he hasn't said to me yet, and he makes this known to me. This doesn't mean more will not come up later, but he confirms that later he will be willing to discuss those points as they arise.

2) WH then makes his own three-pronged plan that includes:
- Long-term therapy / problem behavior control / boundaries
- Amends
- Reinfusion of the relationship with love and goodness

I realize all that's in the future, but that's what I got right now, providing the lying has really stopped. Ideas?

[This message edited by Thessalian at 7:10 PM, January 6th (Monday)]


Me: BW, 30
Him: WH, 36

7 years of double-digit ONS, LTA, hookers - the works.

First found out: August 20, 2013
Whole truth: January 1, 2014


Posts: 163 | Registered: Sep 2013
Thessalian
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Default  Posted: 7:31 PM, January 6th (Monday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Oops, I missed some:

realitybites: And we THINK this is healing.

Is it not? What does healing begin with, if not truth? Interested.

scaredyKat: You say he hasn't cheated in three years, but still had contact with OW in August, so essentially WAS cheating? I'm confused...

Sorry, wasn't clear. There was a 3-year period when we left this country and moved back to the United State for a bit when there was no active cheating (less availability of prostitutes is probably why, but he could have done it if he wanted it bad enough). When we returned here, the cheating began again almost immediately, and continued until I found out on DDay in August.

Years to undo a life time of addict think.

Yeah. Even if this isn't an addiction, the think is there for sure. I have stated several times over the last few days to WH that this is going to be a problem. Since he has never admitted it to himself or anyone else, or really ever tried to stop, I don't know how bad the problem is and neither does he. I can't tell if this is a shame spiral based on lies and hiding, or if this is full-on addiction.

Dreamland: Why are you still with him?? You are still young and if you don't have kids??? Hell even with kids.. You are worth it.. You deserve someone who will treat you with respect and honor. We all do..

Yes, I do. I don't have self-worth issues: I know I don't deserve this, I'm worth it, it's not fair. But life isn't fair. Human beings screw up, they screw up BADLY. That is what it means to be human. People get twisted inside, they dig holes they can't crawl out of. I want to be with WH on this journey, because I care about him deeply. But the journey is HIS. Not mine. So unless he's actually freakin' on this road, and really fighting for this, I can't do that to myself. And I won't.

This has been really hard, but what is making this easier is looking at the relationship we had. No fights (yes, conflict avoidance, I know), lots of fun, wonderful days, a real mutual understanding outside of sexual issues, we enjoy many of the same surface-level things (hobbies, music, books, movies), we have similar political and religious views, similar goals, similar enjoyments of life. All that stuff is still there.

If I can take it a little longer, and he is doing the work, then who will reach out and pull him up if not his wife?

But let me be clear: I'm not putting up with ANY. MORE. SHIT. And I have no idea how much more shit I'm in for after the lying ceases (which I like to think it has).

catstail: For the record, I was one who said I would leave if my spouse cheated on me....and I'm still here 7 years later...and surprisingly pretty happy.

And I'm not an idiot with my head in the sand either.

Having said that....it wasn't easy. Had he not done an abrupt about face and got his shit together in a hurry..I would be long gone.

Thank you for this. I want to say we're looking at an abrupt about-face. If not, I'm done.

[This message edited by Thessalian at 7:43 PM, January 6th (Monday)]


Me: BW, 30
Him: WH, 36

7 years of double-digit ONS, LTA, hookers - the works.

First found out: August 20, 2013
Whole truth: January 1, 2014


Posts: 163 | Registered: Sep 2013
FaithFool
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Default  Posted: 7:47 PM, January 6th (Monday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Wow, you really have a full plate there Thessalian and I feel for you. What an awful thing to have to deal with.

I spent 20 years in blissful ignorance of my husband's second life. He was that great at lying, plus he travelled constantly so it really was a no-brainer for him.

How I wish I had found out at 30 instead of 55 when I had already given this man my best years.

I know it sounds strange to consider you the lucky one, but you are. You have time on your side.

I hope you can forge a path to healing and use it wisely. Whether or not you decide to stay with him is completely up to you.

People like your husband (and mine) are so highly skilled at lying (they've been doing it their whole lives) that they can and do manipulate less skilled therapists into thinking they're healing when they're not.

I agree with the others who say that he needs CSAT and psychotherapy, and if it means you leave your current living situation and move to where you can access that, I strongly suggest that you do, especially given that you seem to want to go all in on this.

Anything less will just be a waste of time and money.

My heart goes out to you.


DDay: June 15, 2008
Mistakenly married Mr. Superfreak
20 years of OWs, WTF?
Divorced Dec 26, 2011
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to sing in the lifeboats". -- Voltaire

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Jesu
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Wow, you are really dealing with a lot, and I can totally relate. I admire your resilience though. Like someone else mentioned, I think what you are feeling is relief. I too felt relief as more and more of the timeline was TT to me over 6 months. At DD. I had no idea how bad the whole truth would be, so by the time WSO revealed all, or at least I think she did, I was ready to just lay it all out on the table, and rather than just be angry, shocked, sad etc...I focused on whether I wanted/could work things out with her. Here I am 1 1/2 years later.

Whilst WSO didn't see prostitutes, being a female and all...she did multiple ONS, multiple LTA, unprotected sex, same sex encounters etc...quite a long list over many years. I live her though, and want to R.

I feel for you, and wish you strength and all the best!


Me: BSO 39
Her: WSO 29
Together: 9 years
Married?: No
Children?: No
OM: A friend of a friend
DD#1: June 18th 2012
Many more DD after TT
PA#1: 1 week in Nov/Dec 2010, which led to a long distance EA
R: ?

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Thessalian
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FaithFool: People like your husband (and mine) are so highly skilled at lying (they've been doing it their whole lives) that they can and do manipulate less skilled therapists into thinking they're healing when they're not.

I agree with the others who say that he needs CSAT and psychotherapy, and if it means you leave your current living situation and move to where you can access that, I strongly suggest that you do, especially given that you seem to want to go all in on this.

Anything less will just be a waste of time and money.

In response to this, gonna repost a private message I sent someone:

The problem is we don't know if it's actually addiction yet. He has never tried to stop and has been in full-on denial that it was even happening. The process of him coming clean has included many instances where he sat bolt upright and said, "Oh my GOD, I forgot about [insert prostitute experience here]. Wow. I have more to tell you. I can't believe I forgot that."

Compulsive? Absolutely. Problematic? Without a doubt. Repressed? Yup.

But I have zero metrics to determine his level of inability to stop and neither does he, because he's never even admitted he's very sexual to himself. He was that split into two people: his secret life was even secret from himself, and I only found out when the situation got so bad it boiled into a real-life affair and into our social circle. Everything else was buried. He rarely thought about it. His pattern was that he would never think about it until he was drunk somewhere at 4am, then he would tell the taxi driver to take him to the nearest brothel (there are a lot here) and he'd go, then come home, wake up and say, "Woo, rough night. Want some coffee honey?" Every time his brain kicked up some flash of a memory, he'd immediately tell himself, "That never happened," and shove it down.

I feel in light of that, it's possible it's not addiction, it's repression and denial so severe that it twisted him apart.

I know the compulsion will undoubtedly arise again (he has already said that he twice had the habitual instinct-thought to go to a brothel or get a girl's number but immediately identified behavior to himself and as soon as he did, felt zero compulsion to follow through and the compulsion did not return [yet]). But not much time has passed. I don't know how powerless he is against it in the long-run, you know? What about when (if) things are back to "good" two years from now, and this is not a constant topic between us - this is what I think he needs a therapist / CSAT for. Is it a habit that can be tackled with more ease now that people know? That I know?

Or is this the very beginning of his discovery that he can't stop? I don't know, neither does he. If it is the latter, I can't hang and I'm done. If the former, I can deal.

Thank you, Jesu, for the hope.

[This message edited by Thessalian at 8:45 PM, January 6th (Monday)]


Me: BW, 30
Him: WH, 36

7 years of double-digit ONS, LTA, hookers - the works.

First found out: August 20, 2013
Whole truth: January 1, 2014


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[This message edited by outtanowhere at 8:51 PM, January 6th (Monday)]


BS - 57
SAWH - 60 multiple encounters with prostitutes and other sex workers
Married 37 years
Dday - 2/19/13 - found the emails
He promised me Heaven then put me thru hell

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But the journey is HIS. Not mine. So unless he's actually freakin' on this road, and really fighting for this, I can't do that to myself. And I won't.

Most definitely it IS his journey but, you are strapping yourself into the passenger seat? Buckle up. You sound incredibly intelligent and amazingly strong but, the whole idea of showing him redemption is a bit concerning. Pretty classic stuff for the betrayed spouse of SA's. We are their rocks, their fixers. They can do it as long as we are by their side. I wish that were true but, from where I stand the brokenness I am looking at is completely overwhelming.

I'm just now learning that he has been SA since before I even knew him. Who knew? It only started ramping up 15 or so years ago (best estimate). A whole lifetime of trying to be the good wife, his helper. Because of his brokenness he never saw the good in me. He only saw someone who he thought would stay with him regardless of if he acted out or not. Im still here and struggle with that decision on a daily basis.He was reckless with not only his life but, mine as well and never batted an eye.

It doesn't matter how loving or how forgiving you are. He.is.broken. And no one, even him, can guarantee that he will be able to overcome this.

Good luck but, please be prepared for the tidal wave that is sure to roll up at some point. If i understand correctly, it's only been a couple of months. Not near enough time to make any decisions yet.


BS - 57
SAWH - 60 multiple encounters with prostitutes and other sex workers
Married 37 years
Dday - 2/19/13 - found the emails
He promised me Heaven then put me thru hell

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BS - 57
SAWH - 60 multiple encounters with prostitutes and other sex workers
Married 37 years
Dday - 2/19/13 - found the emails
He promised me Heaven then put me thru hell

Posts: 665 | Registered: Apr 2013
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BS - 57
SAWH - 60 multiple encounters with prostitutes and other sex workers
Married 37 years
Dday - 2/19/13 - found the emails
He promised me Heaven then put me thru hell

Posts: 665 | Registered: Apr 2013
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BS - 57
SAWH - 60 multiple encounters with prostitutes and other sex workers
Married 37 years
Dday - 2/19/13 - found the emails
He promised me Heaven then put me thru hell

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SAWH - 60 multiple encounters with prostitutes and other sex workers
Married 37 years
Dday - 2/19/13 - found the emails
He promised me Heaven then put me thru hell

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