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User Topic: Toddler meds - please be gentle and well informed
Jrazz
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Question  Posted: 9:00 AM, January 15th (Wednesday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I'm hesitating to post this because Dr. Google has shown me that there are people who say this is fine, and others who say I just accidentally poisoned my kid.

Was going to post this on FB, then changed my mind to OT here, hoping that people with experience or advice will be kind. I'm home alone with DD, FWH is traveling for work. DD has had a highish fever for a few days. Went to doc, they said it was flu and to do fever reducers and fluids. The usual.

DD3.5's fever has gotten a little worse. I have been alternating Motrin and Acetaminophen because just one doesn't do anything for her temp. On this regimen we have kept it hovering from 100-101.

I lay out middle-of-the-night meds and I keep a log of when I've given her either since they have different dosaging times.

The good news is she slept until 6am this morning - slept past both her "next dose" time blocks, if that makes sense. The bad news is she was coughing so hard and temp on fire because of the missed dose. Usually I try to wake her up for her next dose but she seemed ok last night and I know she just needs sleep.

So back to 6am. She's spiked again, albeit 103 instead of something crazy like we've had in the past (105 anyone)

I instantly rationalized that since she missed both doses she could get both. They cross paths at different times throughout the day anyway, right? Also included was her scheduled Zyrtec because her nose was dripping like a faucet.

Well now I'm sitting her in a panic that she's going to go into kidney failure. Do I call a nursing hotline? She was feeling so awful I just wanted to give her some comfort - now I feel like I made a huge mistake. I'm bouncing between justifying (she's had all 3 in her system before) to soooo very angry at myself for making this rash decision. I would love to lie back down (sick too) - she's sleeping, but I feel panic. Help.


If you can't learn to enjoy your life when you have problems, you may never enjoy it because we'll always have problems. - Joyce Meyer

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ajsmom
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Default  Posted: 9:05 AM, January 15th (Wednesday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Do I call a nursing hotline?

Yes.

I think she'll be just fine and you actually hearing someone say that will be comforting.

(((Baby Razz & Mama)))


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Default  Posted: 9:06 AM, January 15th (Wednesday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Look at it this way - what's the harm in calling? They either reassure you that it's okay, or she gets help.


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Jrazz
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Default  Posted: 9:07 AM, January 15th (Wednesday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I just left a message with the answering service. Someone should call me back in a few minutes.

Gonna call the pharmacy if it takes to long.

Really mad at myself for panicking.


If you can't learn to enjoy your life when you have problems, you may never enjoy it because we'll always have problems. - Joyce Meyer

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Jrazz
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Default  Posted: 9:07 AM, January 15th (Wednesday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Thanks ladies.


If you can't learn to enjoy your life when you have problems, you may never enjoy it because we'll always have problems. - Joyce Meyer

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Default  Posted: 9:08 AM, January 15th (Wednesday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Really mad at myself for panicking.

Don't be. It's Rule #1 in the Mommy Handbook.


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Jrazz
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Default  Posted: 9:10 AM, January 15th (Wednesday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I mean panicking and giving her everything at once. This kneejerk has gotten me into trouble in life - don't need to drag poor DD into it.


If you can't learn to enjoy your life when you have problems, you may never enjoy it because we'll always have problems. - Joyce Meyer

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Default  Posted: 9:14 AM, January 15th (Wednesday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

She will be fine. I promise.

An aside, do you know why she is sick? In Aug my 6 year old was sick, fever spiking and coughing. After 5 days, including antibiotics, he was admitted to the hospital for 5 days with mrsa pneumonia. He needed 3 strong IV antibiotics to overcome it.


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Default  Posted: 9:18 AM, January 15th (Wednesday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

So, this one time, at my house....My son drank half a bottle of suspended (not consentrated) IBprofin when he was 3.5. So, he probably go say....4 tablespoons instead of the 1 he normally would get.

so i called the poision control line....they did the weight to intake ratio and it turns out that he did not even come close to ODing.

It was strongly suggested that we push fluids like water and flavored water (not sugery juices) for the next few days to help flush out the extra, but other then that....they weren't even worried.

You will be fine, your kid won't go into Kidney failure, and while you are ok to freak out - just know that for next time try to keep the meds to a minimal ((Jrazz))


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Default  Posted: 9:34 AM, January 15th (Wednesday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

(Mom of 4 that I have yet to kill via Tylenol/Motrin combo)

Jrazz,

Honey,

You can give Tylenol and Motrin at the same time. Actually, when my kids are sick like that I do give them both at the same time.

I am from the school that fever is a good thing in moderation although anything over 102 and we are at the Dr. trying to find out the cause of the fever.


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Jrazz
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Default  Posted: 9:38 AM, January 15th (Wednesday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

We went to the doctor on Monday and they checked her out and said it was flu. It's acting like flu.

Stupid on-call hasn't gotten back to me but I talked to the Pharmacy and Poison Control subsequently.

Pharmacist lectured me for using fever reducers instead of lukewarm baths and washcloths. I don't think she's ever had a poor, sick, screaming toddler. Through my hiccups and tears I kept asking her if she would be ok, though, for what I had given her. She would respond that I should be giving baths instead. I asked about DD's kidneys and stomach and she referred me to Poison Control.

Cue Jrazz racked with sobs as she dials the 800 number.


Poison Control guy was my hero. No judgment, just numbers. Really specific numbers (taking milligrams and weight and everything into account) and then comforting me that I didn't come anywhere NEAR doing her body harm with the medication. He advised that I go back to alternating if I felt that's what was best.

In truth, I know letting the fever go is important. I try to do that... but we have such a nightmare with flu fevers here (105 degree spikes, screaming sobbing lukewarm baths at 3am) that I just wanted her to be comfortable.

Advice is so mixed on this I don't know whether I'm coming or going. I'm going to take Poison Control's word that she's absolutely fine, and I'm going to take the pharmacist's advice and really push the lukewarm bath over the meds.

For the record, I have been hounding her about fluids all day. Water mainly, juice when she's sick of water. Popsicles are out because I'm home alone and out of that and don't want to drag her to the store. She's been eating chicken noodle soup, green beans, and fruit and sourdough bread (her fave) all week. She's so brave and strong. I need to pull my shit together.


Thanks everyone for listening and helping. I'm going to go lie down and practice my breathing.


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Default  Posted: 9:39 AM, January 15th (Wednesday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

(((Jrazz & baby Razz))))

No mama advice but just lots of love and calming thoughts to you. It's going to be ok


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Default  Posted: 9:52 AM, January 15th (Wednesday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Sick babies suck (and they'll be our babies no matter what age)! Just want to jump on the band wagon and say you didn't do anything wrong and she'll be fine.

About the baths though. My mom was an ER nurse and what they would do when a kid came in with a fever is cool towels to soak up the heat. When the towels get hot they wring them out and put the back on. Maybe something to try anyway when the fever goes back up.

Just keep her hydrated. That's number one.

And I think all 3 of my kids ate a tube of the swallowable type of toothpaste. They all have fallen down the stairs. The oldest swallowed a rock once. And the youngest has eaten Floam. They'll still kickin'. But it might explain why they are so weird.


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Default  Posted: 9:53 AM, January 15th (Wednesday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

(((Jrazz)))

If she is eating and drinking that is a good thing.

Kudos to the Poison Control guy.

It stinks when our babies are sick.


I am just your ordinary average everyday sane psycho supergoddess - Liz Phair

Don't keep dancing with the Devil and wonder why you are still in Hell.

It's all shits and giggles until someone giggles and shits.


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Jrazz
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Default  Posted: 9:54 AM, January 15th (Wednesday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Scary but cute, TCD.

She's VERY strong willed about the washcloths.. which is part of her personality. She's very no-touchy, so prolonged contact with a wet washcloth is damn near impossible.


If you can't learn to enjoy your life when you have problems, you may never enjoy it because we'll always have problems. - Joyce Meyer

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Jrazz
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Default  Posted: 9:54 AM, January 15th (Wednesday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Thanks ima.


If you can't learn to enjoy your life when you have problems, you may never enjoy it because we'll always have problems. - Joyce Meyer

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Default  Posted: 9:58 AM, January 15th (Wednesday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Do you know signs of dehydration? That was a biggie why we stayed 5 days with my son. He was taking in fluids at home but because the fever was so high it still was not enough. Which also increased the fevers.


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Default  Posted: 10:16 AM, January 15th (Wednesday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Jrazz,
Father of 2 young kids here... So I completely understand what you are going thru with your DD.

Just wanted to offer up some settling advice here in that I have heard that children (young like yours and ours) can actually withstand a bit of a higher fever. 103-105 is ok for children, but in an adult...watch out.

You don't need to worry about the double dosing, it will be ok. You have gotten reassurance from the people who should know (poison control and pharmacy).

Hope your DD and you feel better soon.

IASS.


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Default  Posted: 10:26 AM, January 15th (Wednesday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Hope BabyRazz feels better soon.


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Default  Posted: 10:26 AM, January 15th (Wednesday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Pharmacist lectured me for using fever reducers instead of lukewarm baths and washcloths.


Thank makes me so mad!! If baths were working then you would not need meds, now would you? So obviously that is why you gave med!

Poison Control guy was my hero

And this makes me happy for you. When you have a sick child with a spiking fever, you really don't know which way to turn. You want to make them feel better but you don't want to give the wrong type of meds and they are crying and you are exhausted and you just want someone to help you and tell you that it will be ok.

I hope Baby razz starts feeling better soon

((((hugs))))


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So shake him off
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