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User Topic: career question-- teaching
Gottagetthrough
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Default  Posted: 12:31 PM, January 21st (Tuesday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Hello wonderful SIers

I am at a cross-roads. My kids are getting older, and while we homeschool now, I don't plan on doing that for their entire school career. Possibly just through elementary.

So, I have been a SAHM for about 9 years, and before that I was in grad school. I have a Masters degree in a subject that has lost a lot of jobs due to the economy. Plus, I do not live in an area with a lot of jobs in my field.

I think it would be a good idea to have a teaching license, so that I have a marketable skill... I have worked in education before (not public schools). I would enjoy the teaching aspect, but I would not really want to be a teacher due to a lot of stuff that goes with the profession (parents yelling at you to change their kid's grade, working 60 hours a week, etc...) It seems like a TOUGH job.

However, it also seems like a job that is needed- if something happens to WH (death, divorce, lost job) I can find a teaching job. They are much more prevalent than a job in academia (if I got a PhD in my field) or just the practical application of my Masters (there are ZERO jobs in my area for what I am qualified to do)

Problem--- What I REALLY REALLY want to do. I want to go back for a Ph.D. Its not rational, it will cost money, but damnit, its a life goal that I haven't completed. I was in school when I had my first child, and graduated and ended up staying home. I had every intention to continue on to the PhD before that.

I have also sort of changed interests. With my divorce, I found a lot of judges and lawyers are ignorant of domestic violence, mental health problems, and other family issues. My dream is to get a PhD in an applicable field (Public Admin? Adult Ed? Social Work?) and work for a Continuing Legal Education program and revamp legal education, so judges and lawyers are more educated about certain issues.

How do I do this? I dont even know where to start? I would like to get a teaching license to both have teachers who can recommend me to a PhD program, and also so I can have a sensible, usable degree incase nothing comes of my PhD dream job... (that I might just be making up in my head anyway!!)

Anyone in a field like this? Any advice? I know grad school is not going to make me any money and will leave me drowning in debt, BUT, I love school. I need to go back & fulfill this goal.


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jrc1963
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Default  Posted: 3:30 PM, January 21st (Tuesday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

There is zero snarkyness in this reply so please don't think that there is...

Don't be a teacher if you really don't want to be one.

I could list out about a zillion reasons why but the main reason is... you don't want to do the job.

Our children, our future, really deserve teachers who want to be in the classroom... not teachers who see it as a "fall back" position until something better comes along.

I would say the same thing to someone just out of college who thinks Teach For America would be a "fun" way to kill a couple of years before they move on to their real job.

If you're not 100% committed to the position you're doing the students a disservice and you'll be absolutely miserable.


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Default  Posted: 3:40 PM, January 21st (Tuesday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage


..
but I would not really want to be a teacher due to a lot of stuff that goes with the profession (parents yelling at you to change their kid's grade, working 60 hours a week, etc...) It seems like a TOUGH job.

..i think you've answered your own question here..

..and as jrc said..

If you're not 100% committed to the position you're doing the students a disservice and you'll be absolutely miserable

..i taught 38 years in elementary.. loved every day of it. Best job in the world.. for me!!

go after the PhD.. it's what you really want to do anyway!!

smy


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circe
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Default  Posted: 4:28 PM, January 21st (Tuesday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I would enjoy the teaching aspect, but I would not really want to be a teacher due to a lot of stuff that goes with the profession (parents yelling at you to change their kid's grade, working 60 hours a week, etc...) It seems like a TOUGH job.

Most teachers I know would say the exact same thing. They love the teaching aspect but don't love some of the negatives of the job - angry parents, overworked, underfunded classrooms and such. I think that's a highly realistic view of the job. The teaching part is the aspect that draws good teachers in. Walking in with your eyes open and knowing that it's satisfying but tough sounds really honest and reasonable, to me.

I'm a huge advocate for going back to school for advanced degrees if you feel called to it and can swing it financially. I got my PhD while I was a single parent to my son and there were so many people who advised me not to do it and told me to be practical, or that I would financially ruin myself. But it was something I had to do, just felt it in my bones. I even moved myself and my son overseas for several years to complete it. Again there were naysayers and again my gut told me it was absolutely the right choice for us anyway. And it was.

I met my husband toward the end of my degree and he expressed a little uneasiness about me having acquired loan debt. But my debt never rose above the cost of, say, a new car, which is a debt a lot of people including my husband had no problem acquiring and paying off in the course of adult life. So I've treated my student loan as such - I just formed a pay off plan that was slightly longer than a car loan and worked it off. And it funded something much more important to me.

A lot of grad programs in my field pay your tuition and give you the equivalent of a part time funded position. So definitely check that out. You have passion for what you want to do and that will be absolutely necessary and carry you a long way during some tough times! I think having a teaching cert as a way to support yourself, since you enjoy teaching, would be a great way to increase the potential choices you have. Especially if there's a need for teachers in your area. I don't see any reason you shouldn't look into both avenues and cast out some lines for each and see what information you get back!


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Default  Posted: 4:34 PM, January 21st (Tuesday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I know a fuck ton about CLE if you want to PM me.

Based one what you have said, what about getting your masters in social work or psychology and becoming a school counselor?

Or, you can seek a job with your state bar or other bar organizations (there are many, many) who produce CLE content. You would not be able to control that type of agenda, though it could be part of it. You could look for a job and work toward becoming an executive director of a legal aid organization. Most of these are not run by lawyers, but by administrators. And while many require a solid work week, you could pursue higher ed at night.

My girlfriend used to do exactly what your dream is; she worked for a government agency that developed education content for judges across the country. Her position was defunded last fall - but that kind of thing does exist.

You might start by finding out what services and professional associations your area has, and begin to research or volunteer for them. You could become a court appointed special advocate (CASA) for children in the court process.


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Default  Posted: 6:15 PM, January 21st (Tuesday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Don't be a teacher if you really don't want to be one.

I second this. I think being a teacher is a calling. And in these parts, schools budgets are being cut left and right, teachers are losing jobs... I'm not certain that a teaching degree = an easy job find.


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Gottagetthrough
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Default  Posted: 8:34 PM, January 21st (Tuesday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

But it was something I had to do, just felt it in my bones.

YES

Thanks for the honest feedback. I agree that teaching is a calling... I have enjoyed teaching classes in the past, but have never been a full time teacher in a public school with the parents, principals, etc... When I have taught it has been either teaching other teachers, or teaching a group (more or less giving a talk and answering questions...)

I really enjoyed those very limited teaching experiences. I think the 'crap' would really bother me, and I don't know if I could handle what my teacher friends tell me they deal with...

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Default  Posted: 9:46 PM, January 21st (Tuesday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

You know, I think with a masters or above degree you could teach at a community college. Just a thought. People I know that do that, love it. Much simpler than being a full time public school teacher.

PS.. I am a ps teacher

[This message edited by Chrysalis123 at 9:47 PM, January 21st (Tuesday)]


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