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Wayflost
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Default  Posted: 7:36 PM, January 27th (Monday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Today I read from the DSM 5 while in counseling with my IC. She had me read the section on Dependent Personality Disorder. All I could think the entire time was that I was reading about me. My IC is not a clinical psychologist, and I have not completed any diagnostic testing etc. However, I have reached out to a clinical psychologist that I would like to start seeing. She should have an opening soon to begin working with me. In the meantime, my IC said that she doesn’t believe that I actually have a PD, but that I fall within the spectrum of DPD. And it’s absolutely true. If you read my original “why” post you cannot miss it. I have lived most of my life in fear of losing the support of the people who love me. And, with the exception of my BH all of them have abandoned me in one way or another. BH is trying to hang on, but still unsure if he wants or even can R. Even if he can’t, I will always know that he did not abandon me. I did.

Dependent personality disorder is characterized by a pervasive fear that leads to “clinging behavior” and usually manifests itself by early adulthood. It includes a majority of the following symptoms:

1 Has difficulty making everyday decisions without an excessive amount of advice and reassurance from others
(I almost never know what I want for dinner, and often change 2 or 3 times in the morning)
2 Needs others to assume responsibility for most major areas of his or her life
(BH ensures all of our bills are paid etc)
3 Has difficulty expressing disagreement with others because of fear of loss of support or approval
(completely conflict avoidant, except professionally but the conflicts I have in my job are not about me)
4 Has difficulty initiating projects or doing things on his or her own (because of a lack of self-confidence in judgment or abilities rather than a lack of motivation or energy)
(so many projects I would love to do, but feel as though I need permission to do them- saying it out loud feels SO stupid)
5 Goes to excessive lengths to obtain nurturance and support from others, to the point of volunteering to do things that are unpleasant
(Ahem, affairs, anyone? Not meant flippantly. At least one of mine was in a situation where I felt that saying no was not an option. Intellectually I know better, but...)
6 Feels uncomfortable or helpless when alone because of exaggerated fears of being unable to care for himself or herself
(This one is less straight-forward. I actually enjoy time by myself, but do prefer social interaction throughout the day. I don’t know that I would have the courage to end this M if things didn’t improve for fear of being on my own. Over the past couple of years I have given my BH full credit for my surviving abusive and terrible treatment from my NPD/HPD mother while she divorced my father. He also “held me together” for the loss of my father.)
7 Urgently seeks another relationship as a source of care and support when a close relationship ends
(My relationship with my mom was going through major turmoil, and was in the ending process throughout the two years I had As. It’s sick that I replaced my mother with affairs, and destroyed my marriage and BH in the process. In some ways I also replaced my father through my affairs. It’s really sick.)
8 Is unrealistically preoccupied with fears of being left to take care of himself or herself
(When I reach out to my IC on “off” hours it is always when I feel hopeless about my M. I ask her what I’m supposed to do. I ask my brother for regular reassurance that “everything will be ok.”)

I get a very deep blah feeling when reading this list over again. It’s not who I wanted to be. I always thought that I would grow up to be a fiercely independent person who had a very happy life. Instead, I’m this flailing broken person.

I am medicated for depression, and have previously been medicated for anxiety. Turns out that both are commonly experienced by people with DPD. Ok, realistically lots of people are treated for both without a PD. This opens up a whole new avenue of research, and work. I can’t help but feel sorry for my BH. I’m a freaking mess.

So, as my signature says: I’m learning to love myself. Somehow I have to learn independence, without becoming someone who does not consider the BS. BUT, balance considering him with what I really want. And, most importantly learning how to communicate it.


Me: WW
Him: BH
Both: 30s
Learning to love myself.
"A successful relationship requires falling in love many times,
always with the same person."
— Mignon McLaughlin

Posts: 116 | Registered: Dec 2013 | From: Southwest US
UnexpectedSong
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Default  Posted: 8:51 PM, January 27th (Monday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Who made you this way? Who in your childhood made you think that you could not be trusted to make any decisions?


WW(SA)
"Feedback is the breakfast of champions." - Boris Becker

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Wayflost
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Default  Posted: 9:40 AM, January 28th (Tuesday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I'm the baby in a family of strong willed people. My mother has been unofficially diagnosed with Narcissistic Personality Disorder. I've rarely made choices in my life that weren't second guessed by her. Most specifically: I chose to continue a relationship with my father even though it's strained after they divorced; I chose to marry my BH even though she doesn't approve and "he's going to leave [me] in 40 years because he is gay" (yes she said that); and other less direct but just as equally insidious responses.

I didn't move out at 18, I didn't leave for college. I started college as a full time student at 16 and when I was finally old enough to leave home it didn't seem like an option. My BH and I were together by the time I was 18, and he begged me to move out with him. My mother put the fear of god in me. It was couched in the whole, "why move out when you can live here for free" logic. She got mad when I insisted on getting a job at 18. But I loved it. I wanted that independence.

As I said, my IC says that if I were truly a full DPD that I would not have continued either of those relationships. In early November (I think) I sent her an e-mail stating very clear boundaries. They included: Allow me to make my own decisions, trust me to make decisions for my life, respect my choices, respect my BH, and allow me the time and space to heal with him if possible. I've seen her once since then on my birthday.

I need to do that with pretty much anyone who is still in my life now. I've taken a slash and burn approach to riding my life of people who supported the behaviors that added to, or encouraged, my ability to have As. The only remaining friends are clearly friends of the marriage. Which means they are friends of BH primarily. I have two or three friends in my life that I made who are still around.

[This message edited by Wayflost at 7:45 PM, January 28th (Tuesday)]


Me: WW
Him: BH
Both: 30s
Learning to love myself.
"A successful relationship requires falling in love many times,
always with the same person."
— Mignon McLaughlin

Posts: 116 | Registered: Dec 2013 | From: Southwest US
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