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simplydevastated
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Default  Posted: 10:26 AM, April 2nd (Wednesday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

***This is not a political debate so please don't turn it into one. I'm just asking a question about a current event ***

I was on the phone with my mother earlier and she told me she heard on the news about the government releasing control of the internet. I have heard about this and I was wondering how that is even possible.

Has anyone else heard of this in the news?


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Default  Posted: 10:30 AM, April 2nd (Wednesday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I heard something a few weeks ago about the possibility of the US releasing control over assigning the suffix portion of domain names (such as .gov, .org, etc).


Edited to fix spelling.

[This message edited by GabyBaby at 10:43 AM, April 2nd (Wednesday)]


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Default  Posted: 10:33 AM, April 2nd (Wednesday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

It's nothing nefarious and has been in the works for a long time to replace ICANN:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/emmawoollacott/2014/03/15/us-government-cedes-control-of-the-internet/


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Default  Posted: 10:41 AM, April 2nd (Wednesday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Yes, I have heard about it.

It's a terrible idea because Z$@dka& )) !%<<


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Default  Posted: 10:44 AM, April 2nd (Wednesday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Thanks for the article. That makes a bit of sense.

The intention is to maintain the security, stability, and resiliency of the internet along with its openness.

I guess another questions regarding the above quote. How can the maintain the security etc... when it's "opened to the global community."


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Open source software (such as Linux) is arguably more secure than proprietary "controlled" software. Nothing is inherently secure if it is connected to the internet, just depends on whose team the really sharp hackers are working for. With open source, the community collaborates to make it more secure. Everyone has more of a vested interest as no one is profiting at the expense of others.


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Default  Posted: 10:48 AM, April 2nd (Wednesday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

It seems to me that the current system is working. Why change it?


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Default  Posted: 11:08 AM, April 2nd (Wednesday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Open source software (such as Linux) is arguably more secure than proprietary "controlled" software. Nothing is inherently secure if it is connected to the internet, just depends on whose team the really sharp hackers are working for. With open source, the community collaborates to make it more secure. Everyone has more of a vested interest as no one is profiting at the expense of others.

I understand this and I know that the internet is not 100% secure anyway. Look how many times banks have been hacked and lost account numbers. I'm just concerned that if it's now opened tp the global community does that make it a more potential security risk?

I hope that made sense.

It seems to me that the current system is working. Why change it?

True.

[This message edited by simplydevastated at 11:08 AM, April 2nd (Wednesday)]


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Default  Posted: 11:23 AM, April 2nd (Wednesday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

The main change is expanding the stakeholders from the USG to the entire international community. It may be a complete nightmare, who knows until ICANN and the NTIA finish convening with all the global stakeholders on how it's going to run. Saying that it works now why change it isn't exactly true - with the changeover from IPv4 to IPv6 and the expansion of the number of DNS addresses there is a lot changing under the hood already. It's just transparent to the user. I guess some people see a conspiracy theory in everything, but this has been in the works for over a decade. The rest of the world see's the US controlling all the DNS in Vienna, VA as a security issue.


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I don't see a conspiracy theory in it. I'm just concerned about the security and safety etc...

I know the article said that this has been in the works since 1998, but to me, it seems like it works fine, why change it up and potentially open it up to more risks than what is out there now. It's just a concern, that's all.


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it seems like it works fine, why change it up and potentially open it up to more risks than what is out there now.

Other countries have equally competent experts. Do you think that you'd feel the same way if things had been going just as well so far and you learned that the control center were somewhere other than in the USA? ......France, perhaps? Or Germany? Russia? China?

I stress that my question is posed not aggressively, or for political reasons. I think it's an interesting moral, ethical, or whatever, subject for reflection - for us all.


The rest of the world sees the US controlling all the DNS in Vienna, VA as a security issue.

Exactly.

Nothing is inherently secure if it is connected to the internet, just depends on whose team the really sharp hackers are working for.

I agree.


[This message edited by Cally60 at 1:32 PM, April 2nd (Wednesday)]


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