Bring the kids home and she starts whining about her anxiety attack and how she thinks I'm distant. No freaking shit Sherlock. I leave and go to he bar. Bad choice I know. I actually go to the bar she recently meet OM at. The bar tender is actually a very good friend of WW. She is appalled at how WW has acted and what she did. So I proceed to drink way too much. Again I know not smart or right. Bar tender says it is really late and I need to go sober up and takes my keys.
I'm drunk, really,really drunk. I call WW and want to say goodnight to the kids but it is really late and they are sleeping. Ok I get it. Then WW starts saying how worried she is and if I'm alright. All I can think "You didn't seem to care this time last year so what's the difference?" I managed to walk to the lake which is where I usually go running. Bad choice because I didn't realize how far it was being drunk and all. I get there around 5am. I was just sitting there looking out over he water for a while and fell asleep.
This is my spot. I relax here and it is a quiet place for me to think. My cellphone is dead got no battery, again not the smartest move. But I'm an adult, an Army veteran and a cop for gods sake. I think I'm capable of taking care of myself. But NOOOO, I must be depressed or hurt so she calls out the freaking cavalry. FIL finds me sitting at the lake and says WW is all upset. Boo freaking hoo.
Why can't she just understand I'm hurt and I'm angry. I look at her and one minute I want her the next I don't. It sucks and I know I'm not the only one here who is or has experienced this. I know she has joined this site and posting in WW forum. I haven't really checked out that forum since she joined. I know there are some good people there but what exactly is she learning. Nothing has changed it still is and always will be about her. I've got nothing left and I'm not sure I want to fight the inevitable anymore. I've fought long enough.
So I'm going to get through this weekend and get back to work. I've got some planning to do for the summer. The vacations are already booked and paid for so I think we will just split them. She can take the kids on one and I'll get the other. Today is not a good day and it still seems like OM has won. I always thought if you live a good and honest life, good things happen. But y'all know what? It's very true nice guys finish last and no one fights for them.
Divorce was filed, but I'm willing to give her one more chance. I'm watching.
I'm sorry, but yes... They are very selfish.
You're early in this, so I will say that it does get better.
Stop drinking. Seriously. It doesn't fix anything, and you don't need anything else to go wrong in your life. If you need to get out frustrations, work out or get a dog. I say this with love.
I found when I was going through to this stage that there was just so much drama- and you're in the midst of it, and contributing to it. Walk away when it begins.
When I was reading your post I was struck by your tactics for getting "proof" and truth. I want to thank you for letting me know that I am not unusual in my need to document the truth of my life. Your cool head and planning will benefit you in a HUGE way in court but also ultimately in your healing from that screwed excuse of a female you married.
This was a reach out to thank you and also to prop you up. You WILL survive this better than you can imagine...most important is the fact YOU WILL FIND HAPPINESS AGAIN IN YOUR LIFE. Be prepared to take a year to focus on yourself. Get enough sleep, do not drink too much, exercise every day, and make a 5 year plan for where you want to be in 2019. What you should not do is make excuses for her. Listen to her bullshit when she begins to tell you that it was YOUR fault if you had just treated her differently blah blah blah. Dont look for another woman this coming year to make you feel better...it will only make it worse. Give yourself one year of a health building bootcamp! At the end you will be HAPPILY divorced, healthier, and ready to find a new life.
I always thought if you live a good and honest life, good things happen. But y'all know what? It's very true nice guys finish last and no one fights for them.
Sending you strength, SWAT, as well as my deepest gratitude for your service.
Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something.
Enjoy your weekend, don't let thoughts of the OM take your time with your kids away from you.
You are a smart, honest, respectable man, and always will be. Hold onto that, take your time, and do what's best for you. You deserve that.
ETA: I hit submit before I was done. My brain goes faster than my fingers
[This message edited by Allornothing at 6:03 PM, May 24th (Saturday)]
Guys like us go through our whole life trying to be the better man. Always rising up during conflict. Ready to help those in need. I myself refuse to look at myself as "the victim"!!! But you know what? We are victims. And that's ok. I don't even know you but I'm willing to bet you're already trying to find a way to fight back towards the guy that truly defines the man you really are. Right now we're broken, depressed, angry and sad. But this is only temporary. "This to shall pass"! We will be changed because of the decisions others have made. But my guess is you'll be a better friend, father and companion after you overcome this dark time in your life. This is only a a blip on your radar. Again, This to shall pass.
I know it is very difficult for you, you are not alone in your feelings or to have to go through this. Try to enjoy your holiday and put the OM on the back burner just for a couple days. Don't let him break you like that. Or he will win. Obviously this was his intention from the beginning and he is jealous of you it seems. You're a better man than him and he knows it. Please set him aside and enjoy your family and friends don't let him take this from you to.
Last, i would like to wish you a Happy Memorial Day and thank you so very much for your service. I as a citizen greatly appreciate it! This holiday is yours!
DDAY 4/17/2013 my father's anniversary death date.
2013 to present: TT big time
9 more women PAs all of our 17 years of marriage. Never had a clue until TT in the last year. Showe
Enjoy your kids, enjoy your vacation, and find your happiness. Who knows what the future brings, but bad things happen to good people all the time. I have one thing in my back pocket and it's called karma, it usually all comes full circle one way or another, just keep putting the good out there.
[This message edited by justswell at 6:42 PM, May 24th (Saturday)]
See my tagline?
"If, therefore, any be unhappy, let him remember that he is unhappy by reason of himself alone."
SWAT – it’s your choice to go get drunk and feel all sorry for yourself.
You really need to get that focus back you had some days/weeks ago.
This problem won’t leave. It won’t disappear. YOU need to work yourself out of infidelity. Taking time off and drinking too much won’t solve anything. It might give you time to think things, but after a certain time you need to start on working on how to progress.
Start working on the issues. Start looking deep to decide what you want and how to progress. DO NOT REMAIN IN INFIDELITY – with or without your wife.
I think I'm capable of taking care of myself. But NOOOO, I must be depressed or hurt
You are hurt and you may very well be depressed. For your sake please watch out for yourself. For all that has gone wrong for the good guy, it could still get worse, so please take care of yourself. Don't let your actions compound things.
Now Bigger (who I think is one of the wisest here) makes some great points. No matter what has happened you have to deal with the infidelity. It doesn't disappear. You can't put it in a box on the shelf. Whether you stay married or divorce, there is healing that you will need to work through.
Think of the haters in your life as sandpaper; they’ll scratch you up time and time again but in the end you’re polished, smooth, and spotless..while they end up useless
We make a living by what we get, but we make a life by what we give.
[This message edited by doggiediva at 9:41 PM, May 24th (Saturday)]
My god she just doesn't get it.
Absolutely right, she doesn't and can't. She can empathize, but she will never comprehend the level of hurt she has caused.
Bring the kids home and she starts whining about her anxiety attack and how she thinks I'm distant
Remember when I told you it took my FWW 8 months to figure out the difference between remorse and regret? It's not something that most WS *get* right away.
Bad choice I know
K, quit making bad choices. Drinking only numbs the pain. The only way through (in a healthy way) is to feel it. The saying around here is *if you can't feel it, you can't heal it*. It's true.
But I'm an adult, an Army veteran and a cop for gods sake. I think I'm capable of taking care of myself.
Gonna call you out. You were drunk. Really? Ever hear that excuse before? You said yourself,* bad choice*, don't defend it now. Not saying she was right in calling down the thunder, but, bad choice.
I know she has joined this site and posting in WW forum. I haven't really checked out that forum since she joined. I know there are some good people there but what exactly is she learning. Nothing has changed it still is and always will be about her. I've got nothing left and I'm not sure I want to fight the inevitable anymore.
It's up to you to decide whether you want to fight or not. Everyone's *deal breaker* is different. When you have hit yours, that's up to you. Point here is more that she is trying. Whether or not that's enough... . Change doesn't happen overnight, it takes(yep, you guessed it) time.
I've fought long enough.
If you have, you have my full support in deciding to D. One thing I would respectfully ask though is to quit drinking for two weeks. Focus on you. Decide then, no matter which way you go, I will still have your back. (I went without, after a couple of benders, for a year).
Strength brother. Read bigger again. Pretty wise dude.
You are there now, unfortunately, and will have these back and forth feelings and emotions for awhile (be prepared and just know this is normal and you will get through it). You will likely go through all the stages of grief as well, read about them so you are prepared. Sometimes you may feel all of them in a course of a day. It's a lot of fun. (She says sarcastically).
Your WW may be doing more than you are noticing, but maybe it doesn't feel that way because this was a deal breaker? Sometimes it is, and no one can blame you if that ultimately is the conclusion you come to. If that is the case, no matter what she does it won't feel like enough.
Focus on you and your healing. Be healthy and just try not to self sabotage your recovery.
Nothing has changed it still is and always will be about her. I've got nothing left and I'm not sure I want to fight the inevitable anymore. I've fought long enough.
I get the frustration. The light doesn't seem to have turned on yet. She seems to genuinely want to make this better, but she doesn't seem to have the first clue about true partnership.
Today is not a good day and it still seems like OM has won. I always thought if you live a good and honest life, good things happen. But y'all know what? It's very true nice guys finish last and no one fights for them.
No. I don't agree with this. OM's career is gone. OM's former co-workers think he's a tool. He did all of this for a woman who made a huge mistake, but isn't his, shouldn't be his and won't be his.
You won. I don't know what you won, exactly, but if it works out, you have a wife and a family. Maybe the light will turn on for her. If it doesn't - and I hate to say this because it comes only after a couple of years of feeling the same way you do right now - you still have your kids and maybe you get to start over with someone better. I certainly did.
And you kept your integrity. Which you of all people, having chosen law enforcement, know means a hell of a lot.
Anyway, nice guys don't finish last. People who complain about nice guys finishing last finish last.
What's up with FIL supporting this drama? Getting a slightly better picture of wife through that anecdote.
My getting drunk is not normal for me and I can see why she was worried. I'm trying to get past what she has done but it is so painful. I try not to dwell on some things but it just seems so unfair. No matter what happens I suffer. I leave and I'm a part time father. I stay and I have years of doubt and possible suffering. I know I can deal with either scenario eventually. It is just going to take me some time. It's like I tell rookies. This isn't like COPS. Where in a half an hour you have arrested three bad guys and gotten in a pursuit. Cases take time and so will this.
It is difficult for me because she is why I'm so angry but at the same time I don't want to hurt her in any way.
It sucks. I have been there. One minute they are the woman you love, the next they are the ones who took everything from you.
What my wife had trouble understanding was that I just wanted some peace sometime. Just let me be for a while. When the light went on for my wife it was almost worse than it was before it went it on. She was trying so hard. She just couldn't let me be. It would REALLY piss me off. She got better - she learned to read when to leave me be and when not to. But until she did at times her endless therapy shit drove me crazy.
The rest of your post is 100% correct. You are allowed to be angry with her, yet still love her.
It is completely and utterly unfair.
And you will loose something no matter what the outcome. We all do. But you can gain during this time as well...just takes some distance and perspective to know what that positive is.
You can be as much as a dad as you want to be. I work full time as a nurse, so with 12 hour shifts I have 50-50 custody. I am a much better dad now, and I am the stable one for the kids. My former BIL is a police officer with joint custody as well.
Just letting you know that whatever you do, you can be the dad you want to be. I'm not with them every day, but I talk to them every day, and I am a partner in decisions that are made when they aren't in my custody.
Even if you feel like a broken piece of shit, keep up on your time with your kids. You will not regret it.