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jo2love
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Suspicious  Posted: 3:41 PM, June 5th (Thursday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Except for when someone accuses my kid of plagiarism and gives her a hard time for using a dictionary. I'm not saying that I'm walking around my home cursing her out. I'm just saying that if I was a cartoon character, the bubble above my head would have a warning label for language. My DD did that assignment while sitting right next to me while I read a book. She didn't plagiarize her teeny, tiny assignment. Also, the English/Spanish dictionary was required for the class. She is supposed to use it.

Venting it here is keeping me calm while proofreading my email to said teacher.

****All of her other teachers the past 2yrs have been amazing, down to earth, funny, intelligent, caring, warm people. Some of whom I still keep in touch with. I am grateful our lives have been touched by each of them.

End of vent

[This message edited by SI Staff at 3:42 PM, June 5th (Thursday)]


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nowiknow23
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Default  Posted: 3:47 PM, June 5th (Thursday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

((((jo & dd)))) Vent away. Grrr.


You can call me NIK

"Keep your face always toward the sunshine - and shadows will fall behind you."
-Walt Whitman


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jo2love
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Default  Posted: 4:16 PM, June 5th (Thursday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Thank you, Nik.

It was a dinky, short power point that listed the names of teams and had a little baseball info.


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authenticnow
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Default  Posted: 7:07 PM, June 5th (Thursday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

(((((Jo and DD)))))


Take up your space (and do it well).

"That's the thing about pain, it demands to be felt."


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StrongerOne
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Default  Posted: 8:04 PM, June 5th (Thursday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Jo2love,

Not a 2x4, but I'm gonna give you a teacher's perspective.

If the teacher is not familiar with your child's abilities, it may seem "too smart" for the child. (This happened to me now and then.). Accusing the child of plagiarism is not the sharpest way to address this, but I'd cut the teacher some slack. Lots of kids, lots of grading, we are all human.

Did your DD follow the teacher's expectations re quoting, using sources and so on? Sometimes kids just inadvertently do the wrong thing, or misunderstand or forget the rules. Especially if they are new or a new skill they are learning.

Did the teacher contact YOU to say your DD cheated? Or did your DD report this? Kids (and I include the college students I work with in this group) mishear what teachers say to them. All. The. Time.

Was your DD punished for "plagiarizing"? Given a poor grade or lost points? Or did the teacher point it out so that she won't do it again? Is your DD being sent to the principal for cheating?

Has your DD spoken to the teacher about it herself? Unless your DD is quite young, I'd have her do that first. You can role play with her how to talk to her teacher about it.

It's ok, mama bear! I have to remind myself to back down all the time re my own DS -- he's a very confident, well spoken 14 year old and rarely needs me to help...I'm writing those emails in my head all the time!


DDay Feb 2011.
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jo2love
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Default  Posted: 8:54 PM, June 5th (Thursday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

This teacher has had my dd all year. We've had meetings, emails, I see her when I volunteer there. DD has a 504 plan that went into place a few months ago. It brought more conversations about her abilities. DD is thisclose to an A- in her class (DD's goal...not mine). I'm proud of whatever grade she gets as long as she tried her best. She has worked hard to get her migraines and anxiety under control, while also getting her grades up. The teacher knows that DD's biggest weakness is talking in front of the class. We have had multiple emails about it. DD gets anxiety attacks and ends up talking lower.

Did your DD follow the teacher's expectations re quoting, using sources and so on?

Yes, she did.



Did the teacher contact YOU to say your DD cheated?

DD and 2 other students came to me. I take the other students with a grain of salt. I was told to tag guidance on emails when I have a concern and am emailing this teacher. There is an ongoing issue with lying. So far this year we are up to 3-4 times that she has told me verbally one thing. Then I have a concern about what she said, so I email the teacher and guidance for clarification. At that point, she emails back that she never said it. So she flat out lies to me. This has been a lather, rinse, repeat all year.


Was your DD punished for "plagiarizing"? Given a poor grade or lost points? Or did the teacher point it out so that she won't do it again? Is your DD being sent to the principal for cheating?

She was called her out in front of the class. No grade has been assigned yet. I'm waiting to hear back if she will has a punishment. I doubt it because she will deny saying anything of the sort. Calling her a cheater and that she wasn't smart enough to have done the work, is pretty crappy.

Has your DD spoken to the teacher about it herself?

DD did try to talk to her, but was talked over by her teacher. Like I mentioned, she has anxiety and will mentally shut down. When she had to do a different oral assignment (cue anxiety), the teacher admitted to me that she made her do it 3 times in a row in front of the class. She also doesn't believe she has to follow the 504 plan accommodations for my child. Her words....not mine.


My sister is a teacher. I give her a lot credit for putting up with parents. It makes me more appreciative of teachers. If any of her teachers need anything (coupons, fav dark chocolate, one likes pizza fishy crackers, coffee delivery to a teacher she had last year, etc...)I try to support them. If DD does something wrong, I call her on it. She isn't perfect and part of my job is to teach her right from wrong.


I also don't understand why the teacher back peddles about things she has told me herself.

[This message edited by SI Staff at 8:57 PM, June 5th (Thursday)]


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scaredyKat
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Default  Posted: 10:58 PM, June 5th (Thursday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Former teacher here...and parent of a child who didn't fit the teacher's mold.

Good for you. Stand up for her. There are amazingly talented, empathetic teachers who understand their job is to teach KIDS not curriculum. And then there are others. Show your child that it is right to stand up for yourself, and at the same time, help her understand that she will encounter more of these powermongers who believe a classroom is a fiefdom in which they are the omnipotent god. She WILL have to learn to maneuver through a world with these a$$es, but her mom will help her until she does.

Not an easy task, but oh, so important!


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Damn autocorrect is responsible for the silly errors, sorry!

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jo2love
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Default  Posted: 6:26 AM, June 6th (Friday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Thank you, Scaredy. ALL of the other teachers she has ever had, have been awesome. I always start the school year with an email that they are essentially a parent to my child 6hrs of the day and I appreciate what they do. If they need class supplies, coffee, if my kid is not doing what she should......tell me. I'm there to support my daughter AND to support her teachers, school nurse, etc... They don't have it easy.

[This message edited by SI Staff at 6:26 AM, June 6th (Friday)]


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