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User Topic: Somebody keyed my horsebox in night
Jomarion
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Default  Posted: 5:35 AM, July 15th (Tuesday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

My horsebox has been keyed,the hood scratched all over, and probably the person came onto property outside range of cameras. I need to look. I hate this. The horses were in there as well.


me:BGF, 54, American immigrant. one son. me and my ex get along great, the most amicable split imaginable!
him:WBF,43, Polish immigrant
together since 2006,
DDay:October28,2009,after his 3 teen kids push him to cheat with OW.
5 betrayed me

Posts: 191 | Registered: Jun 2014 | From: UK
tushnurse
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Default  Posted: 8:52 AM, July 15th (Tuesday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Call the Police.
If this was done in a drunken rage, he may have left prints, and proof, and then you can press charges, and file a RO.

ETA: I'm sorry this is happening. It's scary, upsetting, and frustrating. (((and strength)))

[This message edited by tushnurse at 8:54 AM, July 15th (Tuesday)]


Me: FBS
Him: FWS
Kids: 15 & 17
Married for 22 years now, was 16 at the time. .
D-Day Sept 26 2008
Fully R'd, and Happy Happy Happy

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Jomarion
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Default  Posted: 9:24 AM, July 15th (Tuesday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I phoned the police immediately. They are coming later. The person also scratched the windscreen all over, so I am hoping there may be fingerprints on the windscreen, also footprints. The horsebox is just within the camera, but the front part where the damage occurred is hidden from the CCTV. What is scary is the horses were in that paddock where I keep the horsebox, they would have been right there next to the person. This is obviously meant to frighten me.


me:BGF, 54, American immigrant. one son. me and my ex get along great, the most amicable split imaginable!
him:WBF,43, Polish immigrant
together since 2006,
DDay:October28,2009,after his 3 teen kids push him to cheat with OW.
5 betrayed me

Posts: 191 | Registered: Jun 2014 | From: UK
Jomarion
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Default  Posted: 1:53 AM, July 16th (Wednesday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

The police said their prime suspects in this are my WBF's two girls and friend. He is treating this as a crime. The officer is local and obviously knows more about what they are involved in than I am. There are no finger prints though nor footprints good enough to use. It was also the eve of their brother's six-month anniversary of his suicide the night this happened.

The police officer said they wanted to hurt both me AND my WBF by attacking the horsebox. If they had wanted to attack only me for maximum hurt and damage, they would have attacked my much more expensive car which was also there, and a CCTV would not have stopped them. But the horse-box my WBF had re-done for me only a few weeks back, and this attack ruins that work and hurts me at the same time. He also thinks that by attacking the horse-box I will assume it is my WBF and get angry and have a fight with him.

See, they do not stop even when I break with my WBF. Until they find their next target, I am it.

What a mistake to have brought them to this country for a 'new better life.'

Are they going to kill one of my horses on their brother's one year anniversary of his suicide? How far will they go? They have already 'practised' hurting or killing hamsters, finches, my cat, a dog, and a lamb. And that is only what I know about.

It is all really scary.


me:BGF, 54, American immigrant. one son. me and my ex get along great, the most amicable split imaginable!
him:WBF,43, Polish immigrant
together since 2006,
DDay:October28,2009,after his 3 teen kids push him to cheat with OW.
5 betrayed me

Posts: 191 | Registered: Jun 2014 | From: UK
Lostly
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Default  Posted: 3:41 AM, July 16th (Wednesday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I am so sorry this happened to you. How awful.


BW 48 - Multiple d-days
Divorced 2012 after 19 yrs
6 smart, beautiful, amazing kids Dd 19; Ds 17; Dd 15; Ds 13; Ds 11; Dd 10

Sometimes I hear my voice, and it's been here, silent all these years. I've been here, silent all these years.


Posts: 100 | Registered: Jul 2014 | From: Australia
JerseyCowgirl
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Default  Posted: 6:05 AM, July 16th (Wednesday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I hope you have better luck with police than I did when I went thru similar...started after divorce. My hay barn was set on fire, attempt to set barn on fire, gates opened & horse turned loose. At divorce he had an addendum added to have his horse destroyed. I fought but lost & my beloved Jack (Morgan horse...service horse with the search & rescue team ) was put down. I still relive that moment every night watching him fall. July 11th was one year. So I set bobby traps to stop him from coming near my buildings but still things kept getting stolen off property. He broke into my house & still police never investigated. You need to set up a good security system. In my case I moved, sold the place & moved far away because the attacks would not stop. Take this seriously..it will escalate if you don't. My thoughts are with you.


Me: Divorced 2012
I know that when I truly love & honor myself I am at my best & most complete; and I will never settle for anything less from myself or from anyone else ever again!

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Jomarion
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Default  Posted: 6:20 AM, July 16th (Wednesday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Oh my God, Jersey Cowgirl, what can I say? It is too too too horrible what you went through. Watching your own horse DIE because of that bastard????? Barn fires? Hay fires? Oh your poor horse. I did my first 4-H project on Morgans. Beautiful gentle breed. Never enough protection for the animal family in domestic violence situations imo. A friend who worked in DV counselling told me many victims refuse to go into hiding because they will not leave their pets behind, the pets are often the first to get hurt.

I do have CCTV cameras after the threats to hurt my animals were known. I have already phoned the camera guy to get more set up. I live on a busy road, why it is easy for them to just drive alondside my property and do something in a field.
It is very hard with a farm to protect everything, and fields too. JUst throw some glass in a field - easy, no proof.

This open damage is an escalation. My WBF said he was protecting me from his kids. Now he is gone, they are upping. The 17 year old has a 30-35 year old boyfriend too, which gives her confidence to be more of a jerk.

And I am planning on moving when I am in a position to as well.

Thank you for your advice. I am so sorry for all you have gone through. Still hard to read it, it is so horrible


me:BGF, 54, American immigrant. one son. me and my ex get along great, the most amicable split imaginable!
him:WBF,43, Polish immigrant
together since 2006,
DDay:October28,2009,after his 3 teen kids push him to cheat with OW.
5 betrayed me

Posts: 191 | Registered: Jun 2014 | From: UK
Hopetosurvive98
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Default  Posted: 12:06 PM, July 16th (Wednesday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Wow-this is awful. As a fellow horse owner I can imagine your fears. I assume a horse box is a horse trailer? Can you move it and anything else of value to a place where they are easily viewed on camera? Also keep your horses in at night-a stall perhaps-or just in close to your home and have a motion activated light placed near the area that the horses/animals are located in-a place distant enough that the horses themselves do not trigger it.

I have friends who have security systems in their barns too so I know that can be done at a price. I personally put my horses in their stalls at night and have security lights placed in a few places near the paddocks and arena. Because the horses are in they wont trigger them. I also keep all gates padlocked and my trailer is under a security light and my tackroom is also locked and that portion of the barn is under a security light. I also keep my feed room with a padlock as I had fellow competitor years ago whos horses feed was poisoned.
I would be chaining and placing locks on all gates, putting up security lighting, and getting more CCV cameras placed around or moving things to a place easily seen. Keep your feed locked up too if you can. . As others have said I would take it seriously because sick people do sick things to hurt others. Protect yourself and your animals the best you can. So sorry.
Also Jersey Cowgirl-your story just broke my heart. I am so sorry and being forced to euthanize a horse for no good reason besides your ex wanting to hurt you. Sick. I am just so sorry.


Me: BS 36
Him:WS 36
DDay 9/8/11, 3yr LTA
Her: super classy coworker, 44, involved in many A's including several other coworkers.

Posts: 396 | Registered: Nov 2011 | From: The beautiful south
JLyn1128
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Default  Posted: 12:12 PM, July 16th (Wednesday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Fellow horse owner here too, and I share a real fear of what you're going through. I have 4 and here in California they live in the open. My WSO loves them and he's not a threat, but the OW is nuts and very angry. I'm super sensitive to any sounds from the corrals and have contemplated cameras for that area. He says she would never hurt the animals.... but I don't believe him. You just never know. Take care and do what you can to protect your animals. Not much advice... but a lot of support for you.


Me BSO 61
Him WSO 62
Together 29 years, living together 17. He's been with her off and on for half of that.
OW - Available. Thinks 'love' is in the way he looks at her.
Status - R and hopeful

Posts: 90 | Registered: Jan 2014 | From: CA
doggiediva
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Default  Posted: 2:40 PM, July 16th (Wednesday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Jersey Cow Girl, I am so sorry..It is sick that a judge would force you to euthanize a beloved horse as you describe..

Jomarian, this will probably be an impractical suggestion if you don't know many people in your area, but if it is too costly to install more cameras, lights security system for the barns and paddock, you might consider hiring a person as a security guard..A trusted friend or family member who lives in the area, is willing to work nights and is down on his or her luck.....

[This message edited by doggiediva at 2:52 PM, July 16th (Wednesday)]


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SpecialK
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Default  Posted: 3:44 PM, July 16th (Wednesday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

These people are total whackadoos! I like everyones advice as to the cameras, can you get a baby monitor so you can see and hear activity. I have one and it's good for around 75 feet. I can hook up 2 cameras for one monitor. Great sound and picture, you can also record so you would have proof.

If it were me, I would be camping down at the barn with a BIG dog and a baseball bat since you can't have a gun! I'd send them straight to hell! My horses are my heart! And they killed your pets? WTF!!!! They are sick!!! Please get away from him and his crazy relatives and be safe...


Posts: 267 | Registered: Feb 2014 | From: Florida
Jomarion
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Default  Posted: 6:50 PM, July 16th (Wednesday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Thank you for all the suggestions. Poisoning feed - that is really creepy. My barn is very very close to the house - only 3 feet, I can hear the horses in there moving around at night, and it is made of stone, unable to burn down. And I also have CCTV cameras in the stableyard, so it is well protected. The chickens sleep in at night, my goat is a bit vulnerable as her door faces away from the camera.

My problem with motion light sensors is the horses set them off, then a person could hurt them from a distance in the dark. I live in a small valley with steep hills around me. Once the WWbf's daughter remarked on how you climb up this path and can see all my property. She said it in a way I didn't like, so I took a walk up there and it is true. Another time, in this special sickly sweet voice she used, talked about how she saw on You Tube or somesuch, road accidents where horses escaped onto the road and were killed. 'It was Sooooo disturbing' she'd say, but she was a bad actor that day,(usually she is seamless, absolutely amazing to watch her in action, would win an Oscar. But that day, you could hear she was saying that as a veiled threat, for my benefit.

My CCTV cameras work well in the stableyard.

Two logistical problems with keeping my horses in at night is my 18 year old cannot be locked in a stall as she has severe COPD, is on steroids to help her breathe and needs to be outside. My other horse, who had that big scare with the pig, may be too terrified to go into his stall yet, as it was just outside it in the stableyard where he had his encounter with Monster Pig. Because he likes to jump, that paddock with the horsebox in it is the only one where he can't jump out. That is why I am nervous too - those two need to stay outside for now.

These kids are brilliant crime-makers. The will not come around now. They will back off, wait for another opportunity, months, years.

The police officer said it is usually women who scratch and damage cars, not men.

He hopes speaking to these skum will stop them. He said he will talk to them in a way that will not enrage them and make them do more, as they are extremely vindictive.


When these kids tried to break into my house a few years back, I got lots of security up, ADT, and special locks. The 17 year old, when she saw these locks, would ask me in her sickly sweet voice 'Which windows have your new locks.....just curious... '

The baby monitor is a good idea, to hear them. These kids are incredibly incredibly sneaky, and paranoid. When they first lived in my house, they searched all over for the 'secret cameras' they were convinced were in the house!

The security guard is a wonderful idea, probably difficult to do fo rme, though. There is a thing on the market here where if a person crosses an invisible radio line, an alarm is set off .This coincided with the cameras may be a good combination.


me:BGF, 54, American immigrant. one son. me and my ex get along great, the most amicable split imaginable!
him:WBF,43, Polish immigrant
together since 2006,
DDay:October28,2009,after his 3 teen kids push him to cheat with OW.
5 betrayed me

Posts: 191 | Registered: Jun 2014 | From: UK
Jomarion
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Default  Posted: 6:50 PM, July 16th (Wednesday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Thank you for all the suggestions. Poisoning feed - that is really creepy. My barn is very very close to the house - only 3 feet, I can hear the horses in there moving around at night, and it is made of stone, unable to burn down. And I also have CCTV cameras in the stableyard, so it is well protected. The chickens sleep in at night, my goat is a bit vulnerable as her door faces away from the camera.

My problem with motion light sensors is the horses set them off, then a person could hurt them from a distance in the dark. I live in a small valley with steep hills around me. Once the WWbf's daughter remarked on how you climb up this path and can see all my property. She said it in a way I didn't like, so I took a walk up there and it is true. Another time, in this special sickly sweet voice she used, talked about how she saw on You Tube or somesuch, road accidents where horses escaped onto the road and were killed. 'It was Sooooo disturbing' she'd say, but she was a bad actor that day,(usually she is seamless, absolutely amazing to watch her in action, would win an Oscar. But that day, you could hear she was saying that as a veiled threat, for my benefit.

My CCTV cameras work well in the stableyard.

Two logistical problems with keeping my horses in at night is my 18 year old cannot be locked in a stall as she has severe COPD, is on steroids to help her breathe and needs to be outside. My other horse, who had that big scare with the pig, may be too terrified to go into his stall yet, as it was just outside it in the stableyard where he had his encounter with Monster Pig. Because he likes to jump, that paddock with the horsebox in it is the only one where he can't jump out. That is why I am nervous too - those two need to stay outside for now.

These kids are brilliant crime-makers. The will not come around now. They will back off, wait for another opportunity, months, years.

The police officer said it is usually women who scratch and damage cars, not men.

He hopes speaking to these skum will stop them. He said he will talk to them in a way that will not enrage them and make them do more, as they are extremely vindictive.


When these kids tried to break into my house a few years back, I got lots of security up, ADT, and special locks. The 17 year old, when she saw these locks, would ask me in her sickly sweet voice 'Which windows have your new locks.....just curious... '

The baby monitor is a good idea, to hear them. These kids are incredibly incredibly sneaky, and paranoid. When they first lived in my house, they searched all over for the 'secret cameras' they were convinced were in the house!

The security guard is a wonderful idea, probably difficult to do fo rme, though. There is a thing on the market here where if a person crosses an invisible radio line, an alarm is set off .This coincided with the cameras may be a good combination.

Thank you everyone for your help and suggestions.


me:BGF, 54, American immigrant. one son. me and my ex get along great, the most amicable split imaginable!
him:WBF,43, Polish immigrant
together since 2006,
DDay:October28,2009,after his 3 teen kids push him to cheat with OW.
5 betrayed me

Posts: 191 | Registered: Jun 2014 | From: UK
JerseyCowgirl
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Default  Posted: 8:10 PM, July 16th (Wednesday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Hang in there. Sometimes we don't stand up to bullies until an animal is hurt. So protect those your horses...keep your feed for them locked up as well.


Me: Divorced 2012
I know that when I truly love & honor myself I am at my best & most complete; and I will never settle for anything less from myself or from anyone else ever again!

Posts: 324 | Registered: Nov 2013 | From: Have not decided where to land yet!
Jomarion
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Default  Posted: 3:26 AM, July 17th (Thursday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I still wonder whether my one horse had been poisoned by them in "2009, right after the affair was outed and WBF came back to me, spoiling all their efforts to get him to go with OW. I had no cameras then. There is a weed here called ragwort, which a horse will not eat, but in a dried form will. It causes liver poisoning and death. My one horse, that autumn, got very very ill, the vet thought he would die. He did not, but when they did his blood tests, said his liver was failing. His stall is at the end of the stableblock- where it would have been easiest to get to him from the walkway. I didn't really put two and two together - it was only when other creepy things started to happen to other animals over the years whenever they were around that I started to get suspicious. I once mentioned it to a friend, and she said 'Oh, they are naughty kids, sure, but that is evil, they are not evil' - and looked at me as if, yes, I was 'picking' on them again. Most adults believe sweet, smiling children,they want to, they have no idea... most adults are in their own fog when it comes to children.

What also is interesting is that my gut had told me not to trust them with animals, but I was simultaneously in a fog of my own. Still I listened to this gut feeling, and though I was being tricked by their sweetness at that point, I also never told them about any plants poisonous to goats or horses that were on my property or in the area (like rhododendron - which grows like wildfire around here, and cherry tree leaves.)

My horse's liver is completely normal now, and he is 26 years old going on 10! Looks and feels great, nobody thinks he is so old.


me:BGF, 54, American immigrant. one son. me and my ex get along great, the most amicable split imaginable!
him:WBF,43, Polish immigrant
together since 2006,
DDay:October28,2009,after his 3 teen kids push him to cheat with OW.
5 betrayed me

Posts: 191 | Registered: Jun 2014 | From: UK
Jomarion
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Default  Posted: 5:44 PM, July 19th (Saturday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Well, the police spoke to the kids and ( it is actually what I suspected they would say) - they said I keyed my own horsebox!!! Why? To get WBF to worry for me and come back to me!!! And then blame them, the poor innocent victims who are always getting picked on by their dad's girlfriend!

This is the sort of thing I worry about with these kids,why I was always scared to phone the police. I have seen them do things to themselves and then blame a person they want to get into trouble for doing the thing to them. (for example, have somebody punch them, then claim X did it to get X arrested, backed up, of course,by witnesses, their friends.

And then they project their twisted games onto me. I am worried what they will do next to retaliate.

All the grain is safely locked away, as well as the hay. They won't do anything now anyway. Their anger has been released, it has to build up again before they act again, and they know the police are on high alert. I see them driving by my house on my CCTV cameras .


me:BGF, 54, American immigrant. one son. me and my ex get along great, the most amicable split imaginable!
him:WBF,43, Polish immigrant
together since 2006,
DDay:October28,2009,after his 3 teen kids push him to cheat with OW.
5 betrayed me

Posts: 191 | Registered: Jun 2014 | From: UK
BaseballMom31
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Default  Posted: 6:05 PM, July 19th (Saturday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

I am so sorry that you have to deal with this. I know it is hard to hear and even harder to do, but I really feel that you are better off to have them out of your life. Maybe soon they will find someone else to harass.

I know it doesn't make you miss your WB any less but his children are toxic to you. I worry that if you allow him to come back, they will eventually really hurt you.


The world breaks everyone, and afterward, some are stronger at the broken places. -Ernest Hemingway

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Jomarion
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Default  Posted: 2:22 AM, July 20th (Sunday), 2014View ProfileEdit MessagePrivate MessageHomepage

Thanks,BBM, for you advice. Yes, they are fully capable of hurting me big-time, if they continued in my life in any capacity. I am concerned his kids won't stop hurting me because everybody said break with him, and the kids will leave you alone (police, friends, therapist, all said this.). But then when I do break with him, the kids come on stronger and more blatant than ever. Which my WBF always warned me WOULD happen. He said he was protecting me and when he got out of the picture, they would really start to attack me. I thought that was just another manipulative tactic he said to stop me leaving him, but sometimes I thought he was speaking truth.

Now I just don't know.


me:BGF, 54, American immigrant. one son. me and my ex get along great, the most amicable split imaginable!
him:WBF,43, Polish immigrant
together since 2006,
DDay:October28,2009,after his 3 teen kids push him to cheat with OW.
5 betrayed me

Posts: 191 | Registered: Jun 2014 | From: UK
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