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Jessy1501
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Default  Posted: 7:32 PM, October 12th (Wednesday)

I just downloaded it to my Kindle.

Anyone read it?


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Default  Posted: 7:49 PM, October 12th (Wednesday)

I downloaded it after hearing how great it is.

I started reading and, honestly, I havent been able to get into it.

Maybe I'm missing something...


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Jessy1501
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Default  Posted: 8:02 PM, October 12th (Wednesday)

Oh, boo!

I'm going to start tonight...we'll see how it goes.


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Default  Posted: 8:11 PM, October 12th (Wednesday)

Read it- hated it- I hope you have a better experience!

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Default  Posted: 8:20 PM, October 12th (Wednesday)

I absolutely loved it , couldn't put it down. I had been unable to read throughout the S but that was an easy read . Now started the 2nd book in series The Girl who Played with Fire .

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Default  Posted: 9:26 PM, October 12th (Wednesday)

Read it and LOVED it, but it took a while to get into it. Lisbeth Salander is a fascinating character, but is not introduced until about 50 pages in. And the first 50+ pages before you meet her are very dry and dull.


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Default  Posted: 9:31 PM, October 12th (Wednesday)

Yeah....I didnt get that far. It was VERY dull and dry after the first few pages.

After I re-read Outlander (LOVE that series) I'll try again...


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Default  Posted: 9:40 PM, October 12th (Wednesday)

I think it's definitely worth reading. It helps to remember the book was translated into English and not written for American readers to begin with. I doubt the author ever imagined that Americans would read his book.

American readers, especially those who enjoy thrillers and crime novels, are used to far different pacing and editing.


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Default  Posted: 10:13 PM, October 12th (Wednesday)

I've read all three of them; I thought they were great but they are kind of dark. Really dark. But I would love to have Lisbeth as a friend. She is a major ass-kicker.


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Default  Posted: 10:21 PM, October 12th (Wednesday)

I have read all three and loved them.

It did take me two attempts to get started in Dragon Tatto, but on the second attempt, I persevered past the first 40 pages or so (can;t remember exactly) and then I was hooked.

A shame the author died, I would have liked to have read more by him.


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Default  Posted: 11:41 PM, October 12th (Wednesday)

Is it taboo to mention that the movies are incredible? They are very graphic in one seen in particular.


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Default  Posted: 12:13 AM, October 13th (Thursday)

Are these the foregin made movies? There is another version being made isn't there?


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Default  Posted: 12:21 AM, October 13th (Thursday)

Swedish with english subtitles. They are on Netflix.


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Default  Posted: 2:38 AM, October 13th (Thursday)

HI

Read it and LOVED it, but it took a while to get into it. Lisbeth Salander is a fascinating character, but is not introduced until about 50 pages in. And the first 50+ pages before you meet her are very dry and dull.

Yes.. This is true. But keep going and you will be hooked!

I have read all three (once I started I couldn't put them down) and seen the movies. The Swedish movies are great. Cannot imagine that Hollywood will be able to come anywhere near them.

The characters in the movies are so much like the book it is amazing.

I am an avid reader of thrillers and would rate them as the best I have read.

I am so disappointed the author died.

Mind you it may have been the karma bus - the bastard had a long term mistress

So hate the man - love his books

BTW Lisbeth is fabulous. For those BWs who would love to get their own back - you will like me become a fan of hers!!!

She gives all the men who have made her life hard just what they deserve!!!

She is my hero.

The trilogy is a must read.

Laura


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Default  Posted: 3:21 AM, October 13th (Thursday)

Mind you it may have been the karma bus - the bastard had a long term mistress.

So hate the man - love his books.

This characterization is really unbelievably misleading and unfair, given the realities of the situation, and I think that the person who wrote this must not have any idea of the real life facts or this never would, or could, have been said.

Stieg Larsson, both as a journalist and as a private citizen, fought for all of his adult life for good causes and against the extreme Swedish right wing (neo-Nazi, the Scandinavian version: racists, etc.)--to the extent that his life was perpetually, every single moment, in genuine danger. He, quite consciously, lived every day in actual threat of being murdered that day.

In Sweden, the laws require that the names and addresses of married couples must be public (I think they're kept in a local municipality or something, available at all times to anyone who wants to see them), published, and constantly displayed at the front doors of their residences. (This is why there is so much made of whose name is on the door in one of the novels, and why Lisbeth Salander has to go to such misleading lengths when she wants to move to a different, full-time residence when her life is in danger. There is no such thing as being able to live anonymously in Sweden.)

Stieg Larsson and his lifetime partner never married because, for them to be married in Sweden, SHE would have instantly become a target of the extremely dangerous forces he was constantly working against.

They were together as a committed couple something like twenty-five years, and were a totally devoted couple...and they didn't get married so that BOTH of them wouldn't be murdered some day because even if HE got murdered, he didn't want HER to get murdered too.

To characterize her as a "mistress" is (in my opinion) unbelievably ugly given the circumstances...and why anyone should hate this man because he was a constant fighter for the good and the honorable in his country, and who fought with everything in his journalistic power against the forces of hate, is also unbelievable.

This characterization of him (and of Eva Gabrielsson, his lifetime partner) has just got to be a situation where the facts weren't known, and the suppositions were made in ignorance of the facts.

This was a really good man, who really loved the woman he shared nearly all of his adult life with.

And much of what is in the novels (which he wrote very late at night, after his day job as a journalist) is what he experienced in his own real life.

He died at age fifty, of a sudden and unexpected heart attack. As happens in Japan (there is a word that has been coined for this in Japanese), he had worked himself to death.

[This message edited by Kjersti at 4:35 AM, October 13th (Thursday)]


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Laura28
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Default  Posted: 4:55 AM, October 13th (Thursday)

Hi Kjersti

I am really sorry.

the person who wrote this must not have any idea of the real life facts

No I didn't.

I read an article some time ago that talked about his wife and his mistress in litigation about who owned his work. I never read another else about him or his life as I was disgusted and disappointed when I read this. Clearly that was a mistake and there was quite a lot of misinformation in this story.

I got the impression that he was married but had a mistress on the side.

I am really very sorry to have offended you.

I had no idea.

I am also very glad you corrected this error.

I must say that I read the books before dday and really loved them but was most disappointed when I read (after dday) that he had a mistress. I found it hard to understand that someone who wrote the stories that he did could live that kind of life. However, from what you have said 'mistress' is clearly not an appropriate term for her.

So once again I am sorry, but I also do not regret posting the comment about the "mistress" (although I do regret the karma comment) as I now know the REAL facts and hopefully others who read here will too.

Thank you

Laura

ETA

Since posting the response above I have looked at some biographies of Larsson and it seems that like his characters he was a really good man. I feel quite embarrassed about my initial statements.

Laura

[This message edited by Laura28 at 5:05 AM, October 13th (Thursday)]


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Jessy1501
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Default  Posted: 8:04 AM, October 13th (Thursday)

Thanks for all of the insight guys (both on the book and the author)! I only got through the first chapter last night, but I was dead tired and knocked out early. It was a bit dry and dull, but I see you guys mentioned it picks up after that.

I went to the movies this weekend to see Ides of March, and there was a preview for the upcoming movie. That is when my SO told me that it was based on the foreign books and he had seen the movies on Netflix. So I became intrigued.

I'm excited to continue reading!


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Kjersti
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Default  Posted: 10:10 AM, October 13th (Thursday)

Hi Laura:

I thought it had to be a mistake, and the article you read doesn't have a monopoly on mistakes about Stieg Larsson and Eva Gabrielsson. An otherwise pretty good article in the New York TIMES here also had some serious mistakes in it, and a couple were whoppers!

But it also had some info that is relevant here, like the fact that Larsson and Gabrielsson met in 1972 and moved in together two years later. They were, as I said, together with each other--as a committed couple--until his death in 2004.

From the New York TIMES article:

Larsson died without leaving a will. Like a great many Swedish couples, he and Gabrielsson never married--she was his sambo, as the Swedes say, his live-in companion-and they had no children. Oddly, Sweden, that model of social liberalism, has no provision for common-law marriage, the way many Americn states do, and so Larsson's father and younger brother, who are not particularly literary, got everything: the rights to his books, the money, even half of the apartment that Larsson and Gabrielsson shared.

I'm glad we got everything straightened out, and although I am sorry you were embarrassed (I have been in a similar situation before; I understand how you must feel ), these posts must cetainly have piqued the curiosity of more than a few readers here on SI!

All is well.

Thank you.

[This message edited by Kjersti at 10:11 AM, October 13th (Thursday)]


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Default  Posted: 10:13 AM, October 13th (Thursday)

(((((group hug!)))))


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Kjersti
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Default  Posted: 3:33 PM, October 13th (Thursday)

Because the Stieg Larsson trilogy is written differently than anything I've ever known (or known was possible) before, there are some things that those who haven't yet read these three novels should know (and I wish I had known before I began this trilogy, which I swooped through in what has to be world record time, once I got past that first pretty slow, but really essential, introductory section in the first novel):

1) The three novels, in order, are:

The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo (first novel in the trilogy, with the back story to everything that happens to everyone later in all three novels)

The Girl Who Played With Fire (the middle novel in the trilogy)

The Girl who Kicked The Hornet's Nest (the final novel in the trilogy)

2) These three novels are one continuous story. (The last novel in the trilogy opens just hours after the middle one ends, with hardly a pause between books two and three.) All three were written as one continuous story (and Larsson wrote the different "companion" or "plot" or "perspective" sections of the trilogy's long story at the same time, so he was writing chapters which went into all three books at the same time).

3) There is considerable discussion of Swedish politics plus various arcane (to non-Swedes) areas of Swedish law (for example: Swedish laws, regulations, and ethics which apply to Swedish journalists). Larsson never expected that his books, written for Swedish readers, would be a worldwide sensation. To Swedes, this is probably really interesting stuff. To us...not so much. If passages get too dense with Swedish laws and ethics, feel free, as a non-Swede and non-Scandinavian, to jump ahead. On the other hand, these sections do explain why certain things happen (and MUST happen) the way they do and did. Take what you feel is right for you from these sections, and skip over the rest.

4) The character of Mikael Blomkvist is Larsson's alter ego. The books seem real because they are. The essentials from these novels were Larsson's real life (and the character of Lisbeth Salander had its origins in a real life employee who once worked for Larsson at a Swedish magazine he published).

[This message edited by Kjersti at 3:46 PM, October 13th (Thursday)]


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Default  Posted: 9:11 PM, October 13th (Thursday)

Read it and felt it was...well...more or less...ahem...let me be kind here...mediocre. I give it two snoozes out of 5.


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Default  Posted: 2:04 PM, October 14th (Friday)

asurvivor - remember, you probably read a translation (unless you read the Swedish pub).


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Default  Posted: 2:58 PM, October 14th (Friday)

Flew through all three!! Loved them!! Although the first one is tough for the first 50-100 pages.

The characters are amazing, even in the translated versions.

I also really liked the movies. They're very graphic but well worth the viewing!


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Default  Posted: 3:45 PM, October 14th (Friday)

I LOVED this book, and the second one. I have been impatiently waiting for the 3rd book to be released in paperback.

I absolutely love the character of Lisbeth. She is one bad ass chick. The first book only scratches the surface of her character and much more is revealed in the second book.

I have seen the Swedish movie of the first book. It truly does justice to the book. Hollywood is also creating a version of the movie with Daniel Craig and Rooney Mara. It is supposed to be released in Dec. I have my doubt whether it will live up to the Swedish version.


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Default  Posted: 6:43 PM, October 14th (Friday)

Loved, loved, loved these books!

I actually stayed up until 4:30 in the morning reading "The Girl Who Played with Fire". I could not put it down.


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Default  Posted: 11:46 PM, October 14th (Friday)

I also loved them....

Kjersti.....thanks for all the info. I had read a little about the author, but you really filled in some gaps.

I have a question, though....why was it so vital that they not marry out of fear of the danger? I would think that anyone close to him whether married or not, would be a target....


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Kjersti
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Default  Posted: 7:19 PM, October 15th (Saturday)

leapyearbaby:

You are welcome!

I have a question, though....why was it so vital that they not marry out of fear of the danger? I would think that anyone close to him whether married or not, would be a target....

You're asking a question that opens up areas that are contentious in Sweden and, at least to us English-speakers who live in our English-speaking countries, genuinely mysterious.

From what I've read (quoting people who span a fair breadth of being pro or con regarding any of the people involved), he didn't have anyone other than his life partner that he was "close to." He had a vast array of people he had worked with for many years and people who considered themselves his friends, but who--evidently--he really wasn't very close to. From his standpoint, he was probably very "friendly" without ever being what we would call a "real friend."

Most everyone is agreed that his relationship with his father and his brother was difficult and what we would call "estranged" (although I'm not sure that, in Swedish terms, this would be an accurate description, since I "get" that their idea of "relationships"--both family relationships and otherwise--can be significantly different from ours). I think it's fair to say, from what I've read, that his relationship with both his father and his brother was both cool and distant (very distant emotionally, in addition to being distant geographically, since the father and brother are, from what I have read, very typical of the general pattern of Swedes who come from the extreme north of Sweden). The fact that his father and his brother wound up with "everything" (pretty much) is, given their real life relationship with him, pretty much akin to unexpectedly winning the world's biggest lottery with a ticket someone bought you as a small gift and you didn't even quite know you ever had.

He was, from what I've read, EXTREMELY aware of the constant danger he (and Eva) were in. He took pains to never have the same schedule or route to anywhere. He varied everything on a daily basis so that no one observing him could predict when or where he would be or would be going at any particular moment. There were pains taken to be as unobtrusive as possible, both when he was alone and when he was with Eva. (And she is an architect. She had her own life that she could use, to some extent, to obscure his life when he was alive.)

There is also some question about her contributions to the three books. Some editors who had, over the many years of his career, seen his attempts at fiction (he was a prolific non-fiction writer) flatly do not believe that the man who wrote what he, personally, submitted to them for possible publication over the years COULD have been the same person who wrote the Salandner trilogy. People who knew both of them very well have said that Eva's contributions to the trilogy were (at the very least) substantial, and could well have been SO substantial that she fully and rightfully deserved co-credit as author, with him. There really has been some fairly sophisticated analysis of his earlier (unpublished, so far as I know) attempts at fiction, and there seems to be a growing body of expert belief that he was definitely not the sole author of the the three novels...and if this is so, then the person who turned what were probably his personal initial ideas into publishable fictional form was Eva. So far as I know, she has always refused to speak about this when asked.

He left a whole lot of real life mysteries behind when he died, and why he (inadvertently) left his estate to probably the last two people on earth he ever wanted to leave it to may be just the beginning.

[This message edited by Kjersti at 7:25 PM, October 15th (Saturday)]


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Default  Posted: 1:21 AM, October 16th (Sunday)

It's interesting.....Americans (including myself) make a whole lot of assumptions about other cultures...perhaps it is also human nature to see people who look like us as like us. I think I made some of those assumptions when reading the books.

This is book Club and I think we could get into a whole discussion of the different social and legal aspects of Swedish life vs American Life that doesn't really belong here. But now that you have explained some things I am going to go back reread the books with a little different view. I loved them...but have to admit I spent a fair amount of time confused about certain things and spent some time researching several things on the internet (kroner drove me nuts until I finally looked up the currency conversion).

I find it painful to think that Eva might have helped write his books, yet his estranged relatives ended up with all the royalties. And admire her for not giving him up, if that is the case. Reputation of one's now dead love vs millions of $$$$. Very difficult decision to for her to make. Or, to her credit...maybe it wasn't so difficult.

I saw another preview today for the Hollywood movie coming out....I am going to watch the Swedish trilogy before I see that one.

Another somewhat related question....what is it with the numerous Swedish murder/police procedure books suddenly out since Larsson's books? Sweden is a relatively small country, population-wise, homogenous and largely rural. Do they really have that high of a crime rate....or just an obsession with the subject?


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Default  Posted: 2:35 PM, October 18th (Tuesday)

I am sorry, but this book was a huge disappointment. So let down.

We are supposed to be caught up in the high pressure world of Nordic financial journalism (really?), while watching characters act like they are in any episode of Scooby Doo combined with a specific Brady Bunch episode, when they aren't living out some middle aged man's fantasy (of course every female wants to jump his bones), with some hard violence to make it seem thrilling...

I wanted more war history. I wanted more emotion. I wanted more plot twists.

I want that afternoon back...


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Default  Posted: 3:10 PM, October 18th (Tuesday)

Sparky you are my new hero for two reasons. The fact you actually got through the thing in an afternoon and the "Scooby Doo/Brady Bunch" reference...perfection.

[This message edited by asurvivor at 3:13 PM, October 18th (Tuesday)]


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Default  Posted: 3:30 PM, October 18th (Tuesday)

Ok, I admit it wasn't one afternoon. I think it really was more like three. But that just means I lost even more.

I know some on this forum loved the book, so I hate sounding too harsh, but this book...

I actually gave away books two and three, without telling my wife, who bought them.


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Default  Posted: 5:53 AM, October 19th (Wednesday)

For those of you can't get thru the first book the second book is VERY good. The first movie is Warning the movie is VERY graphic. They don't cut scenes like they do here in America.

You could start with the second book and get most of what happens in the first book.

Third book was pretty good too but the second is my favorite.

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Default  Posted: 10:30 PM, October 29th (Saturday)

Okay, this thread has been sooo interesting! I just picked up the second book. Can I really just read that and skip the first book?


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D-D 1: 12/23/06 - Porn (dd bust him on-line)
D-D 2: 4-25-08 - Massage P.'s(new act. in pretend recov.)
D-D 3:9-9-08 Caught call m. girl
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Default  Posted: 11:45 AM, October 30th (Sunday)

O.K.! I just started reading the 2nd book last night. It's definitely keeping me interested...:)


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D-D 2: 4-25-08 - Massage P.'s(new act. in pretend recov.)
D-D 3:9-9-08 Caught call m. girl
D-Day 4: 6/30/09 -: free MP g.f./prost.
D-Day 5: 1-10-10: new mp prost's.
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Default  Posted: 11:48 AM, October 30th (Sunday)

O.K.! I just started reading the 2nd book last night. It's definitely keeping me interested...:)


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D-D 2: 4-25-08 - Massage P.'s(new act. in pretend recov.)
D-D 3:9-9-08 Caught call m. girl
D-Day 4: 6/30/09 -: free MP g.f./prost.
D-Day 5: 1-10-10: new mp prost's.
~DONE!


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Default  Posted: 5:39 PM, November 2nd (Wednesday)

Can you skip the first 50-100 pages of book one to skip past the financial business stuff (I literally could not force my eyes to move across the page to read more about someone's financial transfers)? Do we need to know about who transferred money where to understand the bulk of the story?

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Default  Posted: 6:04 PM, November 2nd (Wednesday)

Can you skip the first 50-100 pages of book one to skip past the financial business stuff (I literally could not force my eyes to move across the page to read more about someone's financial transfers)? Do we need to know about who transferred money where to understand the bulk of the story?

Feel free to skip the financial business parts, the Swedish politics parts (once you get the general gist of what is going on), and the Swedish laws and legal system parts (and again, once you get the gist of what is going on). These parts can be dense, hard for us to read, and can be not very interesting for those of us who are not Scandinavians.

If you get to parts of the book that you then don't understand what is going on (or why), then--if you want to--you can go back and reread the relevant sections that you earlier skipped so you will then understand. At that point, those sections will be far more interesting to you anyway, since you will, at this point, now have built a base on which to understand why they were written in the first place.

[This message edited by Kjersti at 6:12 PM, November 2nd (Wednesday)]


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