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haleyscomet
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Default  Posted: 2:39 AM, February 2nd (Saturday)

fdecember 16 - ound him asleep with phone in his hand
they had been texting eachother
he denied and deleted
said someone was texting the wrong number

december 29 - intercepted text while he was sleeping
craftily responded as him and got confirmation that texts were for him
she said i love you
confronted him and he still denied saying the nick name she called him is commonplace

jan 2 - he finally admitted to what i already figured out --- said it was someone he slept with years ago before we were together

to be continued


me: bgf - 46
him: wwbf - 40
lived together 2-1/2 years
dday1 dec 16 2012 found texts
dday2 dec 29 2012 intercepted texts
dday3 feb 20 2013 found texts during false R
status: its over


Posts: 68 | Registered: Jan 2013
Take2
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Default  Posted: 7:30 AM, February 2nd (Saturday)

unfortunately, I'm sure you will be updating -- TT in progress. Hang on to your hat and your stomach. Wishing you strength! ((haleyscomet))

[This message edited by Take2 at 7:31 AM, February 2nd (Saturday)]


"We must be willing to get rid of the life we've planned, so as to have the life that is waiting for us." Joseph Campbell...So, If fear was not a factor - what would you do?

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keptmypromise
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Default  Posted: 7:51 AM, February 2nd (Saturday)

Yep...sounds classic. Your inturrupting his fantasy...tip of the iceberg. Your presented with the early stages of a lose/lose situation. Suspicion drives us crazy...and then the truth, which is no better. ((haleyscomet)).

Post your updates...be prepared for a rough ride. Visit this site often to help you throughout.


Me - BH 54 years
Her - WS 46 years
DD - 6/13/11 (2 total that i know of)
DD - 14
DD - 11
In R...The long and Winding Road

Posts: 254 | Registered: Jul 2012 | From: Ohio
isadora
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Default  Posted: 12:28 PM, February 2nd (Saturday)

hang in there. I'm sure it is the tip of the iceberg.

You will survive this.


Me: BW Him: WH
Married: 10 yrs
4 children: DDs 6&4; DSs 2& baby
2 Affairs - 2010 year long PA/EA, 2008 2 month online EA
Multiple D-Days

I can only control myself, no one else. I do not have that kind of power.


Posts: 4506 | Registered: Jul 2010 | From: Back home again in Indiana
stillcrying4ever
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Default  Posted: 1:34 PM, February 2nd (Saturday)

Yep. My ws also was sleeping with his phone. Soon as he caught me trying to see what he was doing he put a password in. There was a lot more going on then I ever could have imagined.


D Day May 27, 2012



Posts: 186 | Registered: Jan 2013 | From: USA
haleyscomet
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Default  Posted: 3:17 PM, February 3rd (Sunday)

thank u everyone....

yep - tip of the iceberg

progress since Jan 2nd

after (semi)confession on Jan 2nd I expressed all my hurt/rage and suspicions...

that even if it was JUST what he said...

what he said: we were fighting and i bumped into so and so at the grocery store and so yeah I gave her my # and it was wrong.... and I'm sorry - BUT IT'S BEEN ONLY TEXTING - NOTHING HAPPENED AND YOU HAVE NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT. IT'S OVER. THERE WON'T BE ANY MORE TEXTS.

me to him: you let someone else think that they can have you. that hurts. you made her feel more special to you than me. you kept a secret with her behind my back and made a fool out of me.

I didn't believe it was JUST TEXTING


I left 2 days later

he called me, I didn't answer
he texted me (with an attitude: "you're overreacting" "be how you want to be" etc .
I didn't answer

7 days after I left, Jan 11 -- he texted: "I miss you so much (my name)" "please come home"

I admit - I melted... I responded

me: "I won't come home to what I left..." (competing with not only his need to drink and smoke weed and hang with his friends but now ALSO attention he solicits from other women"

him: (in denial/with a mock air of being indignant) "this conversation is done and so are we"

I did NOT text back.

JAN 14th (3 days later) --

him: "I miss you so much (my name)"

.... I'll cut to the chase...
I ended up calling him within a day. He begged me to come home. Within a few days I booked a flight and told him I'd be in town to take care of some business (true) and that I'd see him and we'd "see how it goes"

between then and Jan 25th we spoke on the phone.... him saying he can't wait til I'm back home. me saying we'll see how it goes....

on Jan 25th I pressed him to tell me how he ended it with "her".... he said he stopped answering her texts and she got the message.

Jan 29th - I returned

fast forward to Jan 31st...

I had been back 'home' two days and found out that that was ANOTHER LIE

he had confessed to still texting her after I was gone - because I was gone and he thought I wasn't coming back... but then after me saying I was coming back he told her their conversations had to end

LIES LIES LIES!!!!!!!

[This message edited by haleyscomet at 3:50 PM, February 3rd (Sunday)]


me: bgf - 46
him: wwbf - 40
lived together 2-1/2 years
dday1 dec 16 2012 found texts
dday2 dec 29 2012 intercepted texts
dday3 feb 20 2013 found texts during false R
status: its over


Posts: 68 | Registered: Jan 2013
haleyscomet
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Default  Posted: 3:49 PM, February 3rd (Sunday)

Jan 31 - I had a flight booked and after spending 2 days "seeing how it goes" I woke him and told him I'd be on my flight and that it was for the best because I didn't trust him or ever accept that it was JUST what he said it was (texting).... I pressed him again: How did you end it? When is the last time you spoke?" That's when he 'confessed" to continuing the texts after I left but calling her when I told him I was coming back and telling her that the communication had to stop"
him: I don't want to lose you over this... please don't go.... I'm going to show you every day how much I love you... It won't ever happen again..."

I cancelled my flight (moved it to next week anyway)

Two hours later I got a hold of his cellphone and found that he had LIED

the last call was 1:30a.m. in the morning - right before I arrived.

he then said/confessed: yes I kept speaking to her because you weren't here... but on that last call it was to tell her you were coming back and that he couldn't speak to her anymore

that was Jan 31at...

Since then I have rode him for more info... and just yesterday I felt he was more forthcoming...

but I still don't believe that just texts and phone conversations and what he has told me about 'them' is the whole truth

I'm EXTREMELY hurt and BAMBOOZLED that he kept even just texting her and talking to her AFTER I LEFT

this sucks.

I'm here for now.... and we've spoke about him getting help for his addictions....

I THINK I can forgive him if whatever it is IS REALLY over... but here I am waiting for the superbowl to start... and Google-ing cell-phone monitoring software...

[This message edited by haleyscomet at 3:51 PM, February 3rd (Sunday)]


me: bgf - 46
him: wwbf - 40
lived together 2-1/2 years
dday1 dec 16 2012 found texts
dday2 dec 29 2012 intercepted texts
dday3 feb 20 2013 found texts during false R
status: its over


Posts: 68 | Registered: Jan 2013
Skan
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Default  Posted: 4:15 PM, February 3rd (Sunday)

I''m sorry to hear about all of the cake-eating that''s hes doing. And that is exactly what he IS doing. Keeping both of you on call so that he has the best of both worlds.

Nows the time for you to decide exactly what you want and what you will and will not accept. Get what we affectionately call your Bitch Boots on and demand full NC, transparency, all passwords to all electronics, and complete honesty. Or leave, contact a lawyer, and 180 him other than having him served.

You''re a strong woman. You can do this. We''re here for you.


Imagine a ship trying to set sail while towing an anchor. Cutting free is not a gift to the anchor. You must release that burden, not because the anchor is worthy, but because the ship is.

D-Day, June 10, 2012



Posts: 4804 | Registered: Jun 2012 | From: So California
haleyscomet
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Default  Posted: 4:28 PM, February 3rd (Sunday)

thank you for your reply Skam.

I read your story... so sorry... it does SUCK SO VERY VERY MUCH.
Glad to hear he's cooperating...

He's told me he lied because he did not want to lose me...

But I'm more prone to believe its the SELFISH cake eating that you referred to.

Mudderfudger -- kept in touch with her....

Well - He's insisting that its over --- and that there is nor will be no more contact and that he's been "transparent" -- which I won't take his word for... but becoming discouraged that I can't get a device for his cellphone because its a cheap old flip phone...

this sucks...

if he's doing the work with you - i'm actually jealous -- whether its of your being strong enough to push for it -- and/or of his wanting you enough to do it.

I'll offer whatever comfort/support I can and try as well to be inspired by your strength and the strength of others here

thank u

P.S.: "Bitch Boots: -- Love it?

[This message edited by haleyscomet at 4:29 PM, February 3rd (Sunday)]


me: bgf - 46
him: wwbf - 40
lived together 2-1/2 years
dday1 dec 16 2012 found texts
dday2 dec 29 2012 intercepted texts
dday3 feb 20 2013 found texts during false R
status: its over


Posts: 68 | Registered: Jan 2013
stillcrying4ever
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Default  Posted: 5:59 PM, February 3rd (Sunday)

Haleyscomet......So wish I had your strength.

[This message edited by stillcrying4ever at 5:59 PM, February 3rd (Sunday)]


D Day May 27, 2012



Posts: 186 | Registered: Jan 2013 | From: USA
exhausted lady
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Default  Posted: 6:33 PM, February 3rd (Sunday)

becoming discouraged that I can't get a device for his cellphone because its a cheap old flip phone...

Hmmm....I've heard those cheap ol' flip phones don't work very well after they've been flushed down the toilet, or smacked with a hammer. He'd have to upgrade....to something that you could probably track. Especially if you get it for him and install the tracking apps before he gets his hands on it.

Okay, I admit it. I'm evil.

But, if you're even giving a slight consideration to trying R with this man, you need to have a way to keep "eyes on". He's already shown you that. Good luck honey, and stay strong. Oh, and find those bitch boots!!!


Sometimes the hardest part of finally seeing through someone is accepting what you see...

God grant me the serenity to accept the people I cannot change, the courage to
change the one I can, and the wisdom to know it's me.
-Reinhold Neibuhr


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LonelyHusband
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Default  Posted: 8:34 PM, February 3rd (Sunday)

Okay, I admit it. I'm evil.

this isn't evil. It's clever :)

I did something similar. When OktoberMest was in False R with me, I swapped out her old work phone for a smartphone I had installed a load of monitoring software on. She knew what was happening. She said "But I dont want a new phone" Yeah. that told me everything I needed to know about whether R was real or not.


BS ( me) 41
fWS (OktoberMest) 35
D day #1 29/10/2011, D day #2 15/112011, D day #3 15/03/2012
Reconciling.
“It’s better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all”, is inadequate consolation when you vacuum up a child's hamster'

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haleyscomet
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Default  Posted: 6:06 PM, March 12th (Tuesday)

been away a while --- update in order

Feb 20th - checked his phone
found text messages to her
Her messages were deleted

IRATELY confronted him immediately

He said she only text him "What's up?" his response (which I saw): "Working hard girl" He said she then asked "Is your girl still with you?" to which he responded "Yea"

I told him I don't care how innocent he claims it was - HE WASN'T SUPPOSED TO ANSWER ANY CALLS OR TEXTS FROM HER!
That is what he had agreed to but obviously that promise WAS A LIE.

I left him (moved out permanently) yesterday. In the end what I could no longer withstand was the lack of affection... its like I felt him fall out of love with me
I am heart broken - but its not the same as it was when I left January 4th. At that time I felt like I needed him to heal/comfort me - which is why I ended up going back January 29th. In the 6 weeks since I have learned that he does not have in him the love that I need.

Looking back its been a while since I've felt the love I need coming from him. I doubt the other woman was the cause of this - but rather an effect.

Up to the end he claimed not only that he loves me but also that he was still IN LOVE with me.

His actions however betrayed his words...
and I stopped believing the lie.


[This message edited by haleyscomet at 6:09 PM, March 12th (Tuesday)]


me: bgf - 46
him: wwbf - 40
lived together 2-1/2 years
dday1 dec 16 2012 found texts
dday2 dec 29 2012 intercepted texts
dday3 feb 20 2013 found texts during false R
status: its over


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ymo3
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Default  Posted: 6:50 PM, March 12th (Tuesday)

Good for you for leaving! I envy your strength. I really really do!

hugs!!


BS (me) 27
WH (him) 31
Married almost 6 years
DDay 1/2/13 ONS on 12/26/12 with exgf/best friend of 15 years
Kids: 3, ages 5, 3 and soon to be 1
Too soon to tell what will happen

every whisper, every sigh
eats away at this heart of mine


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Mikey56
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Default  Posted: 6:51 PM, March 12th (Tuesday)

HC,

I admire your strength to stand up for yourself. You did the right thing.

Stay strong and take care of you. You deserve better.


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haleyscomet
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Default  Posted: 2:01 AM, April 29th (Monday)

i left him on March 11th
last posted here on march 12th

i kept in touch with him / allowed him to stay in touch with me... it was very unsatisfying and counterproductive

the last time we spoke was April 7th
I stopped answering his calls

He began to text me. I ignored him.

April 9th he text "We are through."
I didn't respond.

April 10th he text me "Please talk to me"

I text him back about how he f*cked up and how even after leaving this third time he still didn't show me anything to make me believe that he loved me and that i didn't believe him when he denied seeing or talking to the OW. I REMINDED HIM ABOUT EVERY LIE.

He text me back that I was wrong - that he was alone.

I didn't respond.

Two hours later he text me that he loved me and missed me "so very much"

I didn't respond.

April 11 he text and I ignored
April 12 he did not text
April 13th he text me

I text him back. - Itold him that I don't believe him and that I don't trust him and that it was his fault

He didn't respond.

April 25 he CALLED ME.
I was shocked. I did not answer. So he text me asking if I wasn't answering his calls anymore. I did not respond.
1-1/2 hours later he text me asking if I'm ever going to talk to him. I did not respond.
45 minutes after that he text that he loves me and that I was always good to him. He said he hoped I was okay and not sad. He said he was not doing too good.

I cried. But I did not respond.

April 28 - He text me "Hi"
I did not respond.
45 minutes later he text me "Say hello"
I did not respond.

I am stronger the longer I stay away.

Just wanted to share and give hope for anyone else who went through false reconciliation and/or ended up leaving and who is suffering the pain of ending it.


me: bgf - 46
him: wwbf - 40
lived together 2-1/2 years
dday1 dec 16 2012 found texts
dday2 dec 29 2012 intercepted texts
dday3 feb 20 2013 found texts during false R
status: its over


Posts: 68 | Registered: Jan 2013
BrighterFuture
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Default  Posted: 2:26 AM, April 29th (Monday)

Good for you! I like to hear stories of strength like these. I'm actually laughing at him

[This message edited by VeryHurtbroken at 2:28 AM, April 29th (Monday)]


Me:30
Him:31
D-day:2/24/13 (I was 10 weeks pregnant at the time and DS was 15 months)
Status: Parted ways!

"If only I can fight just a little longer, I know it's gonna make me stronger" Jamie Grace-Holding on.


Posts: 345 | Registered: Apr 2013 | From: Ohio
NeverAgain2013
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Default  Posted: 11:01 AM, April 29th (Monday)

Seriously, what kind of complete coward TEXTS you when you leave him due to infidelity???

A real man would have called or shown up on your doorstep begging your forgiveness. Instead of manning up and doing that, he resorts to freakin TEXTING.

I think you're smart for finally pulling this mess off life support. Good for you.


Be careful - that 'knight in shining armor' may very well be nothing more than an assclown wrapped in tin foil.
ME: 50+ years old and cute as a button :-)
Ex-WBF: Just a lying, cheating, gravy-sucking pig - and I left him in 2012.

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sunshine226
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Default  Posted: 11:20 AM, April 29th (Monday)

so many things here are similar to my situation, stupid cell phones, stupid lies, stupid WS's

NC is hard at first and a daily struggle, I broke NC yesterday after 2 weeks and i feel like I am starting over again, I dont even know why I caved!!!!!

I havent seen him for almost 6 weeks, and last time he was here, told him I dont want to see him anymore as long as she is a part of his life. And almost 6 weeks has past

My heart is starting to accept that he has made his decision despite telling me the whole time he's coming back, and told other people too, but NOT OW

What doesnt kill us makes us stronger............I really hope so



Me-BS (44)
Him-WS (47)
DDay 1/1/2012, common law for 22 1/2 years when he began A in September 2011
Status: moving on without him

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Skan
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Default  Posted: 5:15 PM, April 29th (Monday)

So now that you''ve figured out that your stronger when you don''t reply at all to him, and that you don''t need him, how about blocking his number from your phone? Why would you want to keep being bothered by him? Because all he''s doing is fishing to see if you''ll take the hook again. Go total NC. (((hugs)))


Imagine a ship trying to set sail while towing an anchor. Cutting free is not a gift to the anchor. You must release that burden, not because the anchor is worthy, but because the ship is.

D-Day, June 10, 2012



Posts: 4804 | Registered: Jun 2012 | From: So California
NewMom0220
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Default  Posted: 8:35 PM, April 29th (Monday)

Haleyscomet,
I needed to read this tonight. Your posts just prove that doing a 180 or NC does shift the balance of power. I got to that place just 2 weeks ago and my DDay was 3/1/13. I blame it on the postpartum hormones as I had just given birth. It took me a while to realize I had to detach.
In the last 2 weeks I haven't responded to texts either and all of a sudden he wants to go o MC. Another crumb.

You are doing great girl. Stay strong.


Me: BS 36
Him: WS 37
14 month old DS
Married 5 years, together 8, DIVORCING!!! (taking forever)
DDay: 3/1/13 (4 Month PA while I was pregnant)
Sometimes all you have to do is forget what you feel and remember what you deserve.

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Offhispedestal
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Default  Posted: 10:36 PM, April 29th (Monday)

Haley, just like many have mentioned he IS cake eating. When he feels rejection, he wants you and will plead with you. As soon as he has your attention, he'll go right back to her.
Him responding and saying he only talked to her because you were gone??? What a crock of bullshit!
Sooo if he leaves for a few days because you were in an A and lying your ass off... That that means its ok for you to get involved with another man??? He really feels he can get away with this! The way he replied to her texts definitely shows boundary issues. Like he's still in very good terms with her. You have every single right to be hurt and angry. He's totally screwed up


ME-44
WH-45
Married 24


2Beautiful daughters
DD 6/26/10 (he broke down & confessed)
DD#2 3/14/11 H in OW's car
TT 7/1/11 (NC broken, through emails)

In R


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HURTAGAIN1981
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Default  Posted: 10:19 AM, April 30th (Tuesday)

Haley,

It's really helped reading this. It's great to see other people being strong as it helps to give me a boost.

I think you have done the right thing in getting rid of him. He lied to keep you around but really had no intention of breaking contact with her it seems!


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haleyscomet
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Default  Posted: 6:29 PM, May 6th (Monday)

thank u all sooo very much for your encouraging words...
and for those who have responded to let me know that my story has somehow helped -- that means so much to me


So now that you've figured out that your stronger when you don't reply at all to him, and that you don't need him, how about blocking his number from your phone? Why would you want to keep being bothered by him? Because all he's doing is fishing to see if you'll take the hook again. Go total NC. (((hugs)))

my phone doesn't have this feature. He did keep sending texts April 29th and 30th

April 30th I told him off again. Called him a "LIAR" and a "F*CKIN' LYIN' AS*HOLE"
Told him to go call (OW name)and that they deserve eachother. Told him I could take a shovel to them both just like Johnny Depp did at the end of Secret Window. and finally:

"You put me thru hell because of (OW name) your precious (OW nickname) that you wouldn't give up. Lonely? Let her s*ck your d*ck. You're her (nickname she gave him). Bye."

He just kept saying "Bring your ass home", "Get your butt home" "Your bugging out" "Stop tripping" "Get with the program and come home." Things to that effect. After I said Bye I did not respond further. Its been a week. Haven't received another text.

Been getting out and having fun - the way I used to before I was with him. Seeing live music, meeting people... having a couple drinks without worrying about HIM over-doing it!

I know I'm getting better -- the other night I had a dream -- I found myself waking up in (what was) our bedroom -- "Oh no! How did I get here?! I said I'd never be go back!" I was freaking out mentally.... Thought "This has to be a dream" and tried to wake myself up -- Was sooooo relieved when I woke up for real - safe and sound here (where I'm staying with family). Even tho I'm living out of a couple of bags - I feel at home now vs. how displaced and lost when I first left.

(((NewMom0220))))(((sunshine226)))(((HURTAGAIN1981))) and all who are hurting in the midst of this experience we been thrust into that totally SUCKS!


me: bgf - 46
him: wwbf - 40
lived together 2-1/2 years
dday1 dec 16 2012 found texts
dday2 dec 29 2012 intercepted texts
dday3 feb 20 2013 found texts during false R
status: its over


Posts: 68 | Registered: Jan 2013
haleyscomet
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Default  Posted: 12:02 AM, May 7th (Tuesday)

So, so odd. I just posted here earlier today that he had not text messaged me in a week...
and I got a message from him tonight:

I miss you very much (my name).
I wish you were here.

I will not answer him -- yes I WANTED TO respond and say:

While ur making wishes, why don't u wish u had never started talking to (OW's name) and wish that u had stopped talking to her after I busted u... and wish that u had stopped after I left... and wish that u had stopped after I came back!

I WAS there and you didn't stop f*ckin' with (OW's name). Remember how u called me a "big baby" and said my crying made you "sick" and u won't miss me and wish I was there. I know it works for me.

BUT I DID NOT ANSWER HIM. Just writing it out /venting here is enough for me. F*CK HIM!!!

[This message edited by haleyscomet at 12:05 AM, May 7th (Tuesday)]


me: bgf - 46
him: wwbf - 40
lived together 2-1/2 years
dday1 dec 16 2012 found texts
dday2 dec 29 2012 intercepted texts
dday3 feb 20 2013 found texts during false R
status: its over


Posts: 68 | Registered: Jan 2013
Getting to Happy
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Default  Posted: 11:57 AM, May 7th (Tuesday)

lies lies lies !!!

F. T. G!


WS him
BS me DD's 26, 25' DS 23
dd1 1-1-10, dd2 Mothers Day 2011, dd3 3-12-12 Hawaii trip with ho-worker...

Never forget what is worth remembering or remember what is best forgotten.
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Posts: 1140 | Registered: Apr 2012 | From: La La Land
HURTAGAIN1981
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Default  Posted: 4:41 PM, May 7th (Tuesday)

You seem to be doing great and I am so pleased for you!

That kind of text really gets on my nerves!!!! I miss you? BOLLOCKS! GRRRRR!

Why not say something worthwhile if he as to say anything at all! Like why he messed up in the first place! Why he thinks he could possibly deserve another chance!

You're doing brilliantly!!!


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haleyscomet
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Default  Posted: 2:44 AM, May 8th (Wednesday)

You're doing brilliantly!!!

I'm definitely feeling better... so much better than when how i felt hinged on how HE made me feel...
I'm doing things to make myself happy.
He's not doing to well? He misses me? - MmOkayyy... yeah... riiiight....
I've wasted too much time trying to get satisfaction from him that i never got nor was ever going to get -- so it doesn't matter trying to figure out what to make of anything he says.... Given the chance I Know he will f*ck up AGAIN. He blew it with me for good - fool me once shame on you - fool me twice --- shame on me. Third time was the charm -- three strikes yer out! etc.

NO WAY am I gonna even give him the opportunity to try and suck me back in -- I'm not going back ever again -- that'd be like going through hell and looking back and considering another 'go round' - F*CK THAT! Just looking forward. I got some new dresses and shoes and bags :) Nothing extravagant but I'm taking care of / pampering myself. I deserve it.


me: bgf - 46
him: wwbf - 40
lived together 2-1/2 years
dday1 dec 16 2012 found texts
dday2 dec 29 2012 intercepted texts
dday3 feb 20 2013 found texts during false R
status: its over


Posts: 68 | Registered: Jan 2013
Topic Posts: 28