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Please1983
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Default  Posted: 9:47 AM, April 19th (Friday)

My cat wants out.
He's only about 10 months old so to young anyway.
He's a munchkin so quite small and the big bully cat next door might get him.
We live on a quiet street but close to a busy road.
There is no way to cat proof the garden so he can't get out.
He's nice and friendly and I don't want him to turn half wild.
I don't want him to go out. But right now I'm sitting in the garden and I can hear him crying at the back door. He wants out.
Do you let your cat out?


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Default  Posted: 10:04 AM, April 19th (Friday)

I live in the woods and we have coyotes here. My kitties have harnesses and go out on a 30' tie out (it's actually 2, 15' hooked together). My crazy girl who is a tree climber, her tie out is attached to the clothes line in the back yard. She has full run of the back and she loves it outside. The harnesses that I use are a no choke figure 8 style. I have put 4 different kitties out on the harness/tie outs and they love it and especially since your guy is so young? He'd never know the difference
eta: i keep a close eye on them when they're out. I never leave them unsupervised because they can escape if they want to bad enough

[This message edited by ZooMa at 10:06 AM, April 19th (Friday)]


Posts: 33 | Registered: Jun 2006 | From: NLP MI
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Default  Posted: 10:06 AM, April 19th (Friday)

I had cats for 40 years. The ones who lived lovely lives were the housecats. The cats who were outside died from various causes, none of them pleasant. If I ever get a cat again it/they will be housecats only. I feel very strongly that cats need to be indoors, not just for their own protection but also for the protection of the wildlife in the area. Cats wreak havoc on native birds. And then there's what they do in flowerbeds


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Default  Posted: 10:11 AM, April 19th (Friday)

All of the cats I have had wanted out so bad that I let them. And now I don't have any cats. The last one was on the smaller side, but I still see him roaming the neighborhood every now and then. I did make sure to get him fixed, though. He used to come to the door when he wanted in. Then he stopped doing that, so I put food on the front porch for him. After two weeks and bowl was still full I stopped doing that. One of my neighbors actually "adopted" him. They leave their garage door slightly open for him, feed him, take him to the vet. I walk by and see him laying in their driveway. When I say hi kitty-kitty, I swear that damn cat puts his nose in the air and looks away from me, lol. I have two boys and they have a girl, so kitty must have just liked girls better. *Whateva* Lol


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Default  Posted: 10:14 AM, April 19th (Friday)

I still miss the cat we had that disappeared in '02. We had him since '95. He just ended up missing a few weeks before we moved to HI. I had dreams about him for nearly 2 yrs and would wake up crying. Attached to him a bit...

Our current cat we do NOT let outside. He wants to, and has gotten out, generally staying close to the house. Then we go get him and bring him inside.

I've also read that having outdoor cats messes with the local wildlife (birds, rabbits and so on). While I wouldn't mind him getting the house sparrows that have taken residence up in our vents, there are species he shouldn't hunt...and he wouldn't know the difference. So he gets to hunt the mice that try to turn our basement into their winter home instead.


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Default  Posted: 10:22 AM, April 19th (Friday)

Our 7yo cat goes in and out, doesn't stray too far. We back up to forever wild and she never ventures back there - I think she's a big scaredy cat!

The other one is about 4yo and she has only gone out when she manages to GET out. She rarely even tries any more - and if she does all I have to do is shake the can of treats and she comes running!


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Default  Posted: 10:24 AM, April 19th (Friday)

NO! I use to, until one of my cats was poisoned by an evil neighbor.

After that, all future cats were strictly indoor. My most favorite cat was run over by a car. She was an indoor kitty. We had a guest who let her outside for some reason. She was killed shortly after whilst I was at work and didn't know our houseguest let Other outside.

We have a beautiful Maine coon cat/mix right now. He oftentimes wants to go outside. Once he ran out the door but stopped pretty quickly on top of a snowbank and cried piteously until someone rescued him. Silly kitty!


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Default  Posted: 10:28 AM, April 19th (Friday)

We do not, but my parents do. My cat is too much of a weenie, but she has been out on a harness before. She likes it, but gets herself sick- she eats grass, eats this plant, chews on that tree...

My parents cat however does go out and doesn't wander too far. She likes to go to the bathroom outside and, much like a dog, will go out, do her business and go back in. They live in a pretty quiet neighborhood.


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Default  Posted: 10:35 AM, April 19th (Friday)

We have always kept our cats inside.

UNTIL...we got Pookie. He wanted out. Would run for the door, scratch at screens, meow (the kind of howl-meow that is creepy).

He became miserable. The VET told us some cats are meant to be outside...

So we let him go. :( I must say it has made a huge difference. He is so much happier, runs out every morning and comes home every night about 11.

It's just who he is I guess....


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Default  Posted: 10:44 AM, April 19th (Friday)

I have two cats and I am allergic to them (recent years) but I do NOT let them out. It is way too dangerous out there. Please reconsider.

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Default  Posted: 10:48 AM, April 19th (Friday)

No, never. My sweet little darling just isn't prepared for the big, mean world out there.

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Default  Posted: 11:01 AM, April 19th (Friday)

Both of my sweet boys are indoor only. One has no desire to go out, preferring his high perch near our patio door to look out.
The other once got out into our back yard by accident, but he has since stayed away from open doors.


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Default  Posted: 11:13 AM, April 19th (Friday)

No. If cats go out here they turn into lunch.

I solved the problem by getting two kittens at once. They entertain each other and are not very interested in going out.


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Please1983
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Default  Posted: 11:16 AM, April 19th (Friday)

You guys are making me feel so much better. I was feeling really guilty and selfish for keeping him in. Here in the uk most people let their cat out, it's seen as cruel and unusual to keep them in.
Thanks to ZooMa he has been out for about 20 mins on the dogs harness. He was a bit unsure at first but then seemed to enjoy it. That's as much freedom as he's gonna be getting and only when I'm out in the garden with him.
Thanks for all the replies.


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Default  Posted: 11:16 AM, April 19th (Friday)

My cat is too scared to walk outside. She does like it if I hold her and stand with the door a few inches open. She likes the breeze and purrs in my arms.

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Default  Posted: 11:18 AM, April 19th (Friday)

All the time, but usually bring them in at night. We have two 10 YO barn cats (brother & sister) that we got when we owned our ranch to keep the mice down (actually, that's why we got the female, the male was just too cute so we grabbed him as well). They've always been indoor / outdoor cats - the only time we have to put them indoors is if we go for a long walk, because they'll follow us. Learned that the hard way back in Texas when we were about 1/2 mile down the road and here comes the gray female meowing to keep up

We are lucky that we live out in the country a bit, and have a couple of acres for them to roam on, even though they both just stick close to the house. I worry a bit about something happening to them as we do have fox, bears, etc. but I don't think there is any way that we could keep them inside, it's just not in their nature. I can understand wanting them to stay in though. One thing is both of these were originally obtained for utility purposes, and no one else in the family had ever owned cats. My wife wasn't keen on getting them at first, so I told her don't worry, they are just barn cats, they're disposable (the males name is Bridgestone like the tire - our vet hated it). But they are family, even though they can be a pain at times. I think it's more up to the nature of the cat (and the owner to some extent) if it should be an inside or outside cat. Plus, your environment (neighborhood, roads) plays a factor.


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Default  Posted: 11:18 AM, April 19th (Friday)

In addition to safety concerns for your cat, think about the birds. Outdoor cats are the bane of wild birds.

Pet cats should be fed quality food, have the opportunity to exercise on cat-specific toys, given lots of love and attention, and kept inside.


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Default  Posted: 11:20 AM, April 19th (Friday)

Is your little guy neutered yet?


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Default  Posted: 11:23 AM, April 19th (Friday)

I had 3 cats with my ex... He still has them... well, two of them, one moved with his ex girlfriend when she left...

Anyway - All three of them wanted to go outside... the girl cat was adamant about and there was no keeping her in. She was tiny, but feisty and she did just fine out there.

The two boys were brothers... both huge... like 15 to 20 lbs each. They go out but hang around the house mostly.

They were all miserable indoors... I guess it was in their DNA.


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Default  Posted: 11:26 AM, April 19th (Friday)

I solved the problem by getting two kittens at once. They entertain each other and are not very interested in going out.

We did this too. Our cats are brothers from the same litter and we've had them since they were 8-9 weeks old.
They're 7yrs old now- healthy and happy!


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Default  Posted: 11:27 AM, April 19th (Friday)

I just saw the documentary The Central Park Effect, about birdwatchers in New York. They interviewed an ornithologist about the migration patterns of birds, and the decreasing number of birds in the world. He made an impassioned plea for cat owners NOT to let their cats out. I had never heard this before, but have seen several other posters mention it.


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Default  Posted: 11:35 AM, April 19th (Friday)

Is your little guy neutered yet?

Yeah, he was done at 6 months.

I love the birds in our garden, I feed them everyday. I would not be happy to be gifted a dead one.

Augustus will be staying indoors.


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Default  Posted: 11:35 AM, April 19th (Friday)

When I was growing up, our cats were indoor/outdoor. They all died terrible deaths - cars, neighborhood dogs, fights with other cats, etc.

All of the cats I've owned myself have been indoor. They get their "call of the wild" time on the screened porch aka their "happy place."


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Default  Posted: 1:00 PM, April 19th (Friday)

You're welcome Please1983. Glad your little munchkin had a little garden adventure! Sometimes that's all they need is a little fresh air and some grass to chew on.
I'm lucky, my kitties don't get the birdies but love to bring me chipmunks, mice, voles and fn snakes when I am lying out in the sun. Yup!! lol

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Default  Posted: 1:09 PM, April 19th (Friday)

My cats would love to be outside. We used to let them....under supervision. We have a chain link fence. But I would let them out on nice days, and sit out there with them so they wouldn't jump over the fence.

Until they got fleas. Presumably from other cats who roam through my yard, "marking" it because they know cats live here...or from wildlife with fleas. It's a real bitch to get rid of fleas...takes forever.

Plus....they ate the grass, of course. Then promptly came in and threw it up.

Now, they must be satisfied with open screened windows and doors. They're fine....they're too fat to catch anything anyways.

I once adopted a stray, who had to live outside because he didn't get along with my other cats, and sprayed all over the house, even though he was fixed. He routinely ate squirrels, and like other posters have said...one day he just didn't come back.

Personally, I'm very annoyed at the cat owners on my street that don't keep their cats in. They come in my yard, fight, cry, hiss at my kitties through the window, and mark my yard. And oh yeah...leave fleas. I hate most seeing cats out there looking for a warm place on a snowy day...they have collars, so I know they belong to someone...

Just my two cents. Good luck!


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Default  Posted: 1:15 PM, April 19th (Friday)

I'd love to know what my neighbors would think if I decided my dogs wanted to be "outdoor dogs" and just let them have to run of the neighborhood to shit wherever they wanted and destroy things. Shit in my pine island? Left there by my neighbor's cats. Cat barf on my front porch? Left there by my neighbor's cats. My 2 now torn up and completely ruined $200 each front porch rocking chairs? Surprise! The neighbor's cats apparently needed something to sharpen their claws on. Or maybe they're just assholes. Who knows. Why is my dog barking like crazy in the backyard? Oh lookie there. It's the neighbor's fucking cat taunting him by walking back and forth on the other side of the fence just out of reach.

If you haven't guessed, I'm not a fan of "outdoor cats."


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Default  Posted: 1:17 PM, April 19th (Friday)

No. We have to keep ours indoors. Coyotes, hawks, bobcats, etc. We worked hard to train them not to bolt outdoors. They still try on occasion, but they just can't be outside and live.


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Default  Posted: 1:22 PM, April 19th (Friday)

Nope. I'm on the bus and that won't be changing any time soon.

Oh! Nevermind


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Default  Posted: 3:00 PM, April 19th (Friday)

I've always been a "keep the cats indoors" person.

I know someone mentioned fleas - that's a HUGE consideration here.

And there's just too much out there to make them sick, hurt them, etc.

My opinion on this was sealed with one word from the vet though. She asked if we let the cats out or kept them in. I said they never go out, and she said, "Good!"

She went on to say that their health and life expectancy is MUCH better when they are indoor cats.

Life expectancy for indoor cats averages between 12 - 18 years, and can be 20+.

Opinion on life expectancy for outdoor cats varies a lot, and it depends somewhat on how much they go out, but at best it looks like it reduces expectancy by 4- 5 years. Some say they usually only live 4 - 5 years.


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Default  Posted: 3:13 PM, April 19th (Friday)

The cat who lives with us is an outdoor cat. I will be sad when she comes to her inevitably untimely end but I don't feel bad about giving her free reign. As for her killing wildlife, I am impressed with her efficiency when it comes to murdering things but she is outdone by a bulldozer plowing a plot of land in a single afternoon. I think cats are less to blame for the decreasing number of birds in the world than, I dunno, bulldozing a wooded lot to put up a Starbucks. That the cats thrive in the subsequently bulldozed environment and the birds do not speaks to the cats close relationship with people and the inherent stupidity of birds IMO.

Remember - birds are just dinosaurs biding their time. Every bird your cat kills is another cinch in our evolutionary superiority.

If the oxygen content of our atmosphere ever reaches prehistoric levels and bugs get HUGE again and all the birds are too dead to turn into people-munching Terrorbird monsters, the world will be safe for habitation thanks to the cats.

Thank you, cats. And I dunno, dogs or something for being stupid and shit. FUCK YOU DOG FOR KNOCKING THE GODDAMN PLANTER ONTO 4 FULL BASKETS OF CLEAN LAUNDRY I HAD TO EMPTY THE VACUUM THREE TIMES.

Sorry, anyway, cats. Ours likes to wander around outside but makes sure to be in at night so she can wake me up at 4 am.


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Default  Posted: 4:08 PM, April 19th (Friday)

I have 6 cats, and they are all indoors On occasion, two of the oldest (17 and 16 yrs old) are permitted to go briefly into the specially fenced portion of the yard right outside the back door. They cannot get outside the fence, and other cats cannot get in. And even though I have bird feeders in the yard, they no longer have any interest in the birds; in fact, they will lie on the back steps and watch the birds without ever annoying them. I would never let even those two out unsupervised or out of the fenced yard, because of cars and neighborhood strays, as well as local coyotes. And ALL of mine get monthly Revolution flea prevention treatments, especially since the newest came from the shelter with a bad case of ear mites. I love my cats, but I love the birds and squirrels too, and I use cat repellent to try and keep the strays aways from the feeders that are outside the fence. Also, this is a rabies county, and two rabid cats have been found recently, so I don't want any rabid strays around my property.


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Default  Posted: 5:29 PM, April 19th (Friday)

Slightly O/T since we're now talking about fleas. I have always used Cutter lawn spray to keep the mosquitoes down. (Wooded back yard)The bottle hooks onto your hose and the spray keeps mosquitoes down for 60 days I think? I spray early morning on hot days and let it dry before my boxer or kitties go out. Well, last summer I was very ill, overcoming a botched surgery and discovering gluten intolerance, the lawn didn't get done. I had fleas for the first time in my life. :(
Took a month to get rid of them and $$$ Besides the paranoia of being auto-immune with nasty blood suckers! Freak me out. Never again will I let that go!! I never knew the Cutter spray also controlled the fleas! Live and learn, I never even had to do revolution treatments on my furbabies while using the Cutter. Hope this helps someone re: the fleas!

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Default  Posted: 5:42 PM, April 19th (Friday)

Nope. Cars, coyotes, dogs, raccoons, other wild animals (hawks), etc. can get them very easily. Outdoor and feral cats are also the biggest cause of death to many species of birds. Not to mention the diseases they can contract. It's not worth it.

Plus, if they use your neighbors yard/landscaping as a toilet they will likely end up being poisoned or in animal control's hands.


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Default  Posted: 6:50 PM, April 19th (Friday)

@madseason....EXACTLY!!

When the wind is right, I can smell my neighbor's porch (2 doors down)....cats have soaked the porch furniture with urine....their cats, so I guess they don't notice. Wow! I do.

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Default  Posted: 6:57 PM, April 19th (Friday)

@madseason and sadmad,

I am with you on this one. We have a few cats that are loose in the neighborhood (but "owned" by someone). When the weather starts getting nice, we like to open our bedroom window at night. Which means our cats like to be IN the window. And then the neighborhood cats come around - making OUR cats start ungodly howling at 3 in the morning (because they are defending territory - both of our cats are fixed).

And because of the territory issues, that means the cats running free pee near our window (we're in a ground level townhouse-style condo)... and there goes leaving the window open! GRRRRRRRR!!!!!

We have found that spraying water or canned air through the window helps some. But we shouldn't have to worry about other peoples pets like this.

And don't get me started about the people who allow their dogs to use the lawn in front of our house as a bathroom and don't bother to clean up after them.....


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Default  Posted: 9:11 PM, April 19th (Friday)

I do not let my cat out.

Biggest reason: He is FIV+

I will not be responsible for getting other kitty cats sick.

My cat goes out on the balcony and if he goes outside, we supervise. I also don't want my cat hanging out in the sewer either

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Default  Posted: 9:16 PM, April 19th (Friday)

I think that barn cats that have generations of outdoor smarts behind them do OK outside lots of times. We have outdoor barn cats that lived to ripe old ages.

However, if cats do not learn outside smarts from somewhere they are just sitting ducks for an untimely death.


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Default  Posted: 9:27 PM, April 19th (Friday)

I personally don't want my cats outside. Too many factors out there that could seriously injure them (cars, dogs, wild animals, evil people). But with that said I do have an inside/outside cat. When he turned 13 years old he decided that he HAD to be an outside cat (he was found as a young kitten stray in my backyard and was never outside after that). If I didn't let him outside, he'd claw through my window screens and pee all over the house. Now he's 16 years old and comes in when it's cold or the weathers bad, but prefers to be outside. We've built all kinds of shelters for him, but he won't use them, lol. He seems smart enough to avoid the road, but I worry all the time if he's not greeting me when I get home.


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Default  Posted: 7:45 PM, April 20th (Saturday)

I have 3 indoor only cats.

They do not go out for all the reasons already mentioned here.


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Default  Posted: 9:44 PM, April 20th (Saturday)

My cat stays inside. My other cat (now lives with XH) used to escape every chance she could. I'd be roaming around the block looking for her. She always came back at night, but I worried too much while she was gone!


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Default  Posted: 4:49 AM, April 22nd (Monday)

I thought we were the only family "weird" enough to take our cat out in a harness and leash!

We have a cranky old lady cat that adopted DS18 when he was a toddler and she was a stray kitten. She isn't very demanding but she absolutely has to have one thing: regular grass eating so she can barf it up and go about her day. She craves grass like an addict! Eats it, barfs, feels like a million bucks.

We got her a dog harness, the kind that goes around her body rather than her neck, and attach it to a long leash that we tie to various things depending on where we are in the yard. She loves hanging out with us if we're hanging laundry, sitting on lawn chairs having a drink, whatever. She just chills. We have a rule that she must stay out until she yacks up her grass, then she can come in. Usually works.

She's pathetic at mousing - the one mouse we had in our house last winter terrified her. So my guess is she's probably no danger to our local ecosystem.


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Default  Posted: 7:51 AM, April 22nd (Monday)

My cats are indoor/outdoor but not necessarily because I feel they should be. The problem is they want outside desperately.. especially the male and he makes an escape attempt every time the door opens. The doors open and close 30 times a day. I do daycare and after school I have 6 school agers. Trying to get the kids to remember not to let the cat out, or trying to corral the cat while a talk to the parents is hard and I got lazy and frustrated with trying to keep him in. I am not proud of it, but I tried and failed many times.

Well he has a best friend who comes to get him every day. It's the neighbour kitty and they snuggle and play and I have never seen best friend cats but that's what they are. She stopped coming by last week and I was worried.
I found out this morning she died. She didn't have shots and got sick

He's frantically looking for her and I have decided he has to be indoor. I raised him since three days old and would be heartbroken to lose him. Trying to keep him in is going to make him miserable. I have a back deck he could go on, on the second level and I am trying to think of a way to secure it so he can't leap on the railing to get down the stairs or through the slats in the gate. I think he'd climb lattice. I don't know what to do, but I have to figure it out. My girl cat will be easier but he's going to be upset.



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Default  Posted: 8:13 AM, April 22nd (Monday)

Aww that's sad. Good luck keeping him in.


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Default  Posted: 8:25 AM, April 22nd (Monday)

Metamorphosis, you might try running chicken wire around the lower part of the deck railing and the gate, and look at the catfencein.com website for a containment system for the deck rail. It really works.


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Default  Posted: 8:26 AM, April 22nd (Monday)

Never. The lifespans of cats allowed outdoors is significantly lower than that of cats who live indoors only, and I love my babies too much to expose them to that risk.

Plus, we have far too many hawks, owls, and coyotes that would make short work of my cats.

My sister---the most dyed-in-the-wool animal lover on the planet-- did let her (late) cat outdoors. He loved it, and she didn't like saying no to him. He was badly injured several times---by cats or other animals, and once by the across-the-street neighbor, who threw a brick at him when he was in his yard. (And this is in a posh neighborhood.)

His lifespan was much-foreshortened by her willingness to cave to his piteous meows.

My cats? They can ask all day, but they're not going out. (They don't bother to ask anymore, though. They're happy to get fresh air on the sills of open windows, and hunting the occasional moth or June bug that gets inside.


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Default  Posted: 8:30 AM, April 22nd (Monday)

Metamorphosis, you might try running chicken wire around the lower part of the deck railing and the gate, and look at the catfencein.com website for a containment system for the deck rail. It really works.

Thank you so much. I will check right now. I will do just about anything to fix it so he could get some fresh air but not get into the yard. It would hopefully keep the other cats off our deck. Many of them aren't fixed and it drives me nuts.
I am also thinking of using the garage now instead of the front door. That way when I bring all the kids in if he gets out he's still only in the garage. It would be much better for snow and dirt too

I'd still use the front door for pick up and drop offs but I could make sure he was in the bathroom for those times.

I think a plan is forming. Thank you!



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Default  Posted: 2:30 PM, April 22nd (Monday)

I didn't even know fencing like that existed!!! I am so happy I posted about it . Thank you again woundedwidow. We're going to fix up the deck so they can still lay in the sun and use the garage entrance mostly so we can avoid escapes. I feel relieved. It seems like a perfect solution



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