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idiot85
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Default  Posted: 9:48 AM, April 22nd (Monday)

Sorry this is a bit long!

I knew this weekend would be stressful because decided we were going to visit our parents and tell them we're expecting our third child (woohoo!).

If there's one word that sums up my Mum it's 'consistent'!! She went completely off the handle- "wrong time", "is the baby definitely yours", "how can you bring a baby into this", "no precautions?", you can imagine the list- it seemed endless! I was prepared for it though and had already gone through each point with my wife weeks ago so to be honest- I felt and still feel OK about this one. We then went on to her Mum's house- much smoother and we felt like we could be happy and excited with her. Then onto her Dad's- it was nice to have a massive slice of normal from her Dad- excited but looking at me like "grrr what have you been doing with my daughter"- I loved it

Well that was Saturday- Saturday night was still to come. We were in a bar with friends and I noticed the Mrs clock someone and have a half second shock then go red faced never looking in that direction again- I now know the face of another of her ONSs. He didn't come anywhere near but I had a massive urge to punch him in the face- I even fantasized about it. After a few pints I was ready for it but then I looked at my wife, she looked sad and was just looking at me- so, I went home with my wife instead.

On Sunday I couldn't help thinking if I've wussed out- that dude fucked my wife and I've just stood there like tool as if I'm OK about it- makes me sick! My mates were saying if they were me they'd have knocked his block off and I would have done the same but, what good would it have done for the Mrs and our little family. It's like the wife says- it's not really about him- she doesn't know his name, thinks it begins with 'P' is as far as she got- this in itself is both a depressing and comforting thought.

I don't know whether I'm strong or weak for doing nothing??!! I know the who 'turn the other cheek' malarkey but- he fucked my wife- surely that goes out the window??!


BH-29 (me)
WW-28

Multi famam, conscientiam, pauci verentur.


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Emptyshelldad
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Default  Posted: 10:20 AM, April 22nd (Monday)

I know how you feel, but punks like this just end up calling the police and swearing you just violently attacked them. youtube bus fight and watch the one where a 67 year old vet gets harassed by a 20 year old punk, so the vet moves seats to the front to be away from the punk. then the punk follows him while the punks friends all encourage him to go kick the old mans. when he does hit the old timer, the vet gets up and cleans that punks clock, just beats the shit out of him....fast too.
but wait, what do the punk and his friends start saying "I got it all on tape, we can call the police"........
you see, punks and bitch boys are bitches through and through...they prey on other mens wives because no woman will be with them long term.....the punk is like a condom, only good for one time use and then quickly flushed down the toilet. but if you attack them and win, then you get the cops called on you. and dont listen to your mates, they all have advice (like I ueed to) of whatnthey would do in certain situations that they are currently not in.
YOU DID THE RIGHT THING TO WALK AWAY.....Remember that in life, the harder thing and the right thing are usually the same thing.


Me: BH - 28, Her: WW - 31, 10 years, 5 months, 6 days.
2 beautiful daughters. 1 devious, deceitful, serpant-like liar of a wife.
"oh god this has brought a path of destruction and scorching pain leaving in its wake a charred wasteland of a onc

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simplydevastated
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Default  Posted: 10:43 AM, April 22nd (Monday)

Emptyshelldad nailed it!

You did the right thing. Instead of feeling down about it, you should feel proud you didn't stoop to his level. He's not worth your time or energy.


Me - BS, 39 (I'm not old...I'm vintage)
Two Wonderful children - DS10, DD7
Married, for now... (4+ D-Day - listed in profile.)

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idiot85
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Default  Posted: 10:51 AM, April 22nd (Monday)

Thanks a lot- I thought about that at the time- I could get myself into trouble.

Yesterday and today all I've thought about pretty much is what I could have done to him- I'm not even a fighter type! If you'd seen him too-about 5'5ft short, tight white low cut tshirt loving his biceps, outlined hair, fake tan, diamond earrings!!! I'd love to pick him up and throw him!!- That's my favourite fantasy today!!

I'm just thinking I should have done something- anything- he might be thinking I know and don't give a shit and he might have another crack at her or he might be thinking I don't know and my wife needs to get it elsewhere. I'm so fucked off about it!!!

I know I used to say if I was cheated on then I'd tell my wife to do one- well that hasn't happened!!!

[This message edited by idiot85 at 10:52 AM, April 22nd (Monday)]


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WW-28

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KickedInTheNuts
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Default  Posted: 11:01 AM, April 22nd (Monday)

idiot85,

So let me say first that you wussed out, definitely. What male doesn't have revenge fantasies?

But also let me say, that was the right decision. Not only don't you want to stoop to the level of others' low morality, but throwing a punch in this day could easily put you in the poor house or worse.

On the other hand, fantasizing about revenge seems like a healthy alternative to me. My favorite is the Mafia fantasy. You know the one where the Mafia guys hold their target down on a cold white public bathroom floor? One guy at the door standing lookout. Then they pull down his pants, wrap a rubber band around his junk and then slice it off and feed it to him before terminating him in some unpleasant way.

Yeah, that's the one I use. Good thing it is just fantasizing, eh? It is therapeutic though.

[This message edited by KickedInTheNuts at 11:01 AM, April 22nd (Monday)]


DDay #1: December 4, 2011
DDay #2: April 20, 2013

Me: BH
Her: WW
Kids: 18 & 16

R for 17 months, turned out to be false R. Starting the D process.


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idiot85
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Default  Posted: 12:15 PM, April 22nd (Monday)

I'll defo nick that fantasy!!

I still think I should have done/said something though.

I don't want him strutting about thinking I don't know and that she sneaks behind my back cos I don't do it right!!!


BH-29 (me)
WW-28

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omgnome
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Default  Posted: 4:16 PM, April 22nd (Monday)

The fantasies are a great thing. We all have them. They are a great way to burn off some stress.

You did the right thing though, by not confronting him you begin to show that you are in control of your actions, that you are able to overcome some of your strong emotions and make a rational and intelligent decision.

Also gently as I don't know your entire situation. You say that he was a ONS. If that is the case can you be certain he even knew you existed or that your wife and you were in a relationship?

Irregardless you did the correct thing, you remained rational and stopped your emotions from forcing your hand.


BS

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Theradin
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Default  Posted: 8:11 PM, April 22nd (Monday)

Sorry to hear your pain and frustration.

But I think what you may be going through is blame-shifting. These guys who hooked up with your WS didn't actually do anything wrong (unless they were cheating themselves). Your WS is 100% responsible for everything that occurred. She should be the one fully accountable and at full blame for everything! Unless, of course, they coerced her into it or held her at gun point, which likely didn't happen. You should direct your frustration, anger, sadness, etc., toward your WS, not toward some schmuck who didn't want to pass up the opportunity to fool around with a willing woman. It is NEVER the OP's fault, in my opinion.


ME: 33 BH
HER: 32 WW
Married: 8 years
Children: Yes
DDay #1: 02/22/2006 (ONS)
DDay #2: 09/23/2012 (EA/PA)
DDay #3: 12/07/2012 (EA/PA)
DDay #4: 01/03/2013 (EA/PA)
DDay #5: 01/24/2013 (EA/PA)
TT until 04/07/2013
100% NC: 04/18/2013

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OK now
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Default  Posted: 8:30 PM, April 22nd (Monday)

Must say I agree with Theradin. Concentrate on your wife's betrayal and the reasons behind it.

She offered sex to these three guys and like most men they jumped at the opportunity. She could have contracted disease, pregnancy and caused you deep humiliation. Find out why and don't resort to blame shifting or you will never resolve this issue; you must avoid brushing it under the carpet.


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idiot85
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Default  Posted: 5:01 AM, April 23rd (Tuesday)

Thank you and believe me I do blame my wife- he won't have known she was married to me BUT I still think me stood there doing nothing makes me a bit of a pansy- I think I should have reacted- doesn't mean I don't blame her- but now I know who he is...Know what I mean? It's difficult to be OK about him!


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WW-28

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CrappyLife
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Default  Posted: 5:59 AM, April 23rd (Tuesday)

Wussed out? Yep. Right or wrong? I am not sure. I still have this strong urge to kick the crap out of POS1. Though it is a different case with me since it acted like my 'good friend' for 6 years!!

My favorite is the Mafia fantasy. You know the one where the Mafia guys hold their target down on a cold white public bathroom floor? One guy at the door standing lookout. Then they pull down his pants, wrap a rubber band around his junk and then slice it off and feed it to him before terminating him in some unpleasant way.

This is good. How I wold love to do that and more I have had all kinds of revenge fantasies. Some of them so gross that if I write it down here, people would call me a physchopath. Much worse than the one mentioned above. Kinda helps when in a bad mood because I believe at that time that I can pull off my fantasies.

When the mood is right, its like I could never do that. And then I feel like I wussed out!!

Just keep on telling myself that this is not a normal situation and these upswings and downswings will continue for some time.

[This message edited by CrappyLife at 7:11 AM, April 23rd (Tuesday)]


BBF-turned-BH: 28 (Me)
WGF-turned-WW: 28 (EmotionalFool)
POS1: a 'friend'? WW believed it was my 'best friend'!
POS2: her senior at work!
Together - 6 years
Married - 1.5 years
D-Day- 15/10/12

Don't know where we are headed..


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idiot85
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Default  Posted: 6:35 AM, April 23rd (Tuesday)

CL- I don't know how you've controlled yourself!

I know it's an up/down thing but seriously- I think I'd feel a lot better if I knocked his head off, even just a kick in the nuts and it doesn't matter if he doesn't know why- I can always tell him that after. Whether he knew about me or not- he fucked my wife- it's really that simple! The other guy I can let off because I know him- he's a tart and actually said something to me- then stayed completely out of my way- he didn't shy away like a little girl. Then there's just one more to find..!!!!!!


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callmecrazy
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Default  Posted: 12:26 PM, April 23rd (Tuesday)

Idiot 85, you did the right thing! Sounds like you guys are well into R and she was even open with you despite her own embarrassment with her past choices.
You guys are having a baby! No need to risk legal trouble by punching the disrespectful punk.

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Nogoingback
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Default  Posted: 5:05 AM, April 24th (Wednesday)

I know it's the right decision to ignore them, but it's so hard. In the early days the only thing stopping me from punching OW's face in was
1. I didn't want to have a criminal record
2. I know I could never possibly punch her hard enough

With time though I have come to see that she just doesn't deserve to be somebody I worry about. Still not quite that zen on the inside about the whole thing, but if I ran into her I would ignore her.


BS 33
WS 31
together 10 years
DD 4/8/2011
EA/PA with co-worker while I was pregnant
Trying to reconcile

"Above all, be the heroine of your life, not the victim." Nora Ephron


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idiot85
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Default  Posted: 5:18 AM, April 24th (Wednesday)

Cheers for that- what stopped me was thinking if I punch him it'll carry the feeling on longer because it will drag it out- another bad memory added and any time I've been involved in a scuffle it really upsets my wife- I don't want to do this.

My mate said that by doing nothing the Mrs might think I'm not that bothered- hmmm dunno about this one.

Ultimately- I just don't want to come across like I wussed out!!


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WW-28

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traveldad
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Default  Posted: 1:45 AM, April 25th (Thursday)

I don't want to sound too simplistic, but it was your wife who made the vows to you. Keeping control of yourself is viewed by women as a masculine quality.


DDay January 2010
Divorced July 2010...broke up 2 families
Contented single dad of 2 grown sons and two daughters.
XW talks to kids about once a year

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Laura28
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Default  Posted: 2:35 AM, April 25th (Thursday)

idiot85

No. I don't think you did. Anyone can start a fight, it takes courage to stay out of one.

I hope that you are able to talk to your W about this. Tell her how you felt. That you wanted to tear his head off but resisted the urge as you don't want to complicate your R with criminal charges etc. This time is to focus on your R and your baby. That is what matters to you. Please don't feel that your masculinity is threatened by this. A real man puts his wife and family first. Always.

As for the karma bus for the OMs. Forget it. Their lifestyle will lead to karma. It has taken me three years (and many hours of fantasising about revenge) to realise I don't have to lift a finger. Because of the type of people they are, they will bring bad things on themselves. I have seen it with all four of FWH's OWs. Without going into details, I wouldn't want to be them. Their lives are awful.

Their lives are a mess and most of the "bad luck" and sadness they live with can be traced back or in some way linked to their As with my FWH.

As for the fantasisies. Enjoy them. I used to. I dreamed up the most amazing scenarios. I never planned to do them but they made me feel better.

Don't worry about them honey. Their time will come. Because of who they are, you will not have to lift a finger. They will bring it all on themselves.

BIG HUGS

Laura


Married 32yrs Me BW 57Yrs Him FWH 60yrs
OWzero 1988 EA?/PA? Gaslighted.
Dday May 28 2010.
OW1 1994(6mths PA, EA 16+ years).
OW2 2002(8yrs PA).
OW3 2009(1Yr PA).
Others???? Status: Not Divorcing..but.."You can't unfuck the goat"

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Happydays
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Default  Posted: 5:43 AM, April 25th (Thursday)

I don't know whether I'm strong or weak for doing nothing??!!

Neither. You're 'sensible'.
You avoided possible jail time and didn't give OM importance he deserved.

Believe you me, I too wanted to rough up OM. I had the resources, rage and motive.
But, you know what, the repercussions stopped me. My exW would have another excuse (read violent nature) to add to the re written marital history.
Its not him, its my exW. I ruined him in other ways, but thats a different matter.


BH 33
FWW 32
DS: 3 year old.
Dday 10/14/2012
No remorse so:
Divorced 02/15/2013. No alimony, no CS, got apartment. Won all battles and mind games off the courts.

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idiot85
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Default  Posted: 9:04 AM, April 25th (Thursday)

Cheers people- I did tell my wife- at the time and afterwards- I said how I really want to smash his face in and she just sort of nodded and said sorry- she had a look of worry for me mixed with shame for herself- if you get me?

I know you're right traveldad- my wife acts like I'm a hero when I've broken up drunk young men fighting. When I've got involved she's got upset and thinks I'm stupid. My common sense is still lurking about in there- I think cheating just feels like a massive THWACK to the nuts- actually more like a sturdy flick sometimes- gives that deep hurt.

Yeah Laura- I'm hoping they get syphilis personally.

Cheers Happydays- I don't get called sensible often- I like it


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WW-28

Multi famam, conscientiam, pauci verentur.


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idiot85
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Default  Posted: 6:13 AM, April 29th (Monday)

Less sensible last night- the one I'd previously let off tried talking first to the Mrs- then my mate- then me- twatted him. I felt better at first but it was short lived.

I love my wife- she's my world and I've been biting my tongue with her so much so I don't make her sad. I feel like calling her every name under the sun and outing everything fucked up about her- but I'm not going to- Today is an angry/sad/emotional day.

I wonder if it would have been if I hadn't hit the dickhead? We'll never know.


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Laura28
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Default  Posted: 6:18 AM, April 29th (Monday)

Hi again honey

I have no words of wisdom but just wanted to send BIG HUGS.

As for losing it and hitting the AP. Well. Not a good move. But what is done is done. Put it out of your mind but perhaps not a good idea to do anything similar again. You don't need any more problems in your life.

Laura


Married 32yrs Me BW 57Yrs Him FWH 60yrs
OWzero 1988 EA?/PA? Gaslighted.
Dday May 28 2010.
OW1 1994(6mths PA, EA 16+ years).
OW2 2002(8yrs PA).
OW3 2009(1Yr PA).
Others???? Status: Not Divorcing..but.."You can't unfuck the goat"

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idiot85
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Default  Posted: 6:28 AM, April 29th (Monday)

Cheers Laura-

I just need to hold it together and I know I'll be alright in a bit- in the short term though I'm so angry with her and I'm dying to go mad at her BUT I'm holding it and I've told her in kinder words. Just hurts me so much and I want to say things to hurt her but I can already see she's fucking wounded you get me?

I don't plan on doing it again- didn't feel as good as I thought it would. The fella looked a bit pathetic to be truthful mate- I felt better the day after I did nothing!!!

EURGH!!!!!!! Make today go quickly!!?!!


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WW-28

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Laura28
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Default  Posted: 6:35 AM, April 29th (Monday)

Honey you will be OK. You are a good person who has been dealt a shitty hand.

Remember that. You are a good person. Stay true to that and you will be OK.

HUGS

Laura


Married 32yrs Me BW 57Yrs Him FWH 60yrs
OWzero 1988 EA?/PA? Gaslighted.
Dday May 28 2010.
OW1 1994(6mths PA, EA 16+ years).
OW2 2002(8yrs PA).
OW3 2009(1Yr PA).
Others???? Status: Not Divorcing..but.."You can't unfuck the goat"

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confused615
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Default  Posted: 6:55 AM, April 29th (Monday)

Stop biting your tongue. I get that your WW is remorseful..and "wounded" but so are you..because of her actions.

Im not saying you should scream at her for hours. But if you are mad,express that to her. If you are sad,tell her. Stop stuffing your feelings. They will come out,one way or another(like hitting OM). Stuffing them only makes it worse for you..and your WW. She NEEDS to hear your pain and anger. She needs to know fully know how her actions have affected you. She needs to fully grasp what she has done. She needs to see it. Not because you're trying to hurt her,but because R requires full transparency by both of you(if you have a remorseful WS..if you don't..or you're not sure...then a BS shouldn't be transparent..just in case any new BS's are reading this..I don't want them to get the wrong idea). You need to be transparent with your feelings. Tell her how you feel..show her.

You are trying to rebuild your marriage..and you want it to be healthy,of course. That means you share your feelings...all of them with her. Stop protecting her. Start protecting the marriage. This marriage may survive the infidelity..but it will suffer because you are holding your feelings back.

Look at it this way..it's unfair of you not to tell your WW you are sad..or angry. It's unfair of you not to unleash your emotions on her. You are taking away an opportunity for her to reassure you and help you. She can't read your mind. And,I don't think she's weak. I've read her posts. She's a strong woman. And remorseful(if she wasn't,my advice would be different). Trust her with your emotions. She can handle it. Give her the chance to handle it.


BS(me)42
FWH 45
4 kids..21,20,11,10
M: June 2001
D-Day: 8/10/10
Status: Reconciling.

..that feeling you get in your stomach, when you heart's broken. It's like all the butterflies just died.


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idiot85
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Default  Posted: 7:08 AM, April 29th (Monday)

Hey Con615- I have expressed my feelings and we talked a lot last night- I somehow found more questions that I now wish I hadn't asked- she knows I'm angry and upset and hurt and feel embarrassed/humiliated.

I just want to vent at her all kinds of name calling- that won't help anyone- I'll just hurt her more.

I don't know what my Mrs can/can't handle. She's scared to death about us, she didn't go to IC today because she chickened out, she feels guilty, she's pregnant and that worries her it also means she isn't having her usual concoction of drinks, smokes, pills and powders. Oh yeah when I say my wife's fucked up I'm not kidding you on.


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WW-28

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confused615
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Default  Posted: 7:32 AM, April 29th (Monday)

She has had a lot of trauma,for someone so young. And she is scared of finally facing all of that and dealing with it,rather than put it in a box for "later." She will need alot of support from you. But you also need to be supported. And she needs to learn how to do that.

Is it alot? Yes. But it's necessary. She won't be healthy until she faces her past. She needs to go to IC.

Are you in IC?


BS(me)42
FWH 45
4 kids..21,20,11,10
M: June 2001
D-Day: 8/10/10
Status: Reconciling.

..that feeling you get in your stomach, when you heart's broken. It's like all the butterflies just died.


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mike7
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Default  Posted: 7:36 AM, April 29th (Monday)

I don't think you should have punched him. I think you should have listened to him then told him the kid wasn't his then told him never to bother you or your wife again.

I think that would be more of a man than hitting him. I know your angry. You have a right to be. But I don't think resorting to violence quickly is a sign of a mature person. I think you look like more of a man when you don't need to do that.

Of course, if he persists after you spoke to him, it may be more than a reasonable man can put up with.

You have a wife who is pregnant with your child. She is the mother of your children. She came to you and told you of the ONSs. You didn't discover them.

She came to her senses on her own and was honest with you. She is trying to do the right thing.

As hard as it may be, I think you are more of a man if you step back, and try to be strong. Don't call her names. Don't get in fights. Rely on your inner strength.

It wouldn't hurt if you laid off the pubs for a while either. It sounds like your English or Australian, so I realize it's part of your culture. But laying off a bit would help.

Severe pain, coupled with alcohol, is a recipe for disaster.

You have a young family. If she is trying to be faithful and hasn't continued her mistaken path, I'd treat that family like it was gold and guard it with my life.

that's just my opinion. I wish you the best.


BH 53
WW 52
Two kids 21, 18

DDay 1/15/2013


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idiot85
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Default  Posted: 7:56 AM, April 29th (Monday)

I knew she wasn't going to go to IC I heard her having a disagreement with her mate over it- last night was just the final straw. I know I wasn't happy about her going at first but that was bullshit and I know now she has to go. She ain't going to be facing "that" stuff any time soon though- I'm not being a tool when I say, I don't think she should- it's because I love her.

I'm not in counselling and I don't think I need to- when I want to talk about something I do and I can deal with shit with the help of my friends and family- and SI of course!! I had a bout of counselling after her brother died and just talking/crying helped a lot.

Mike- I don't drink much mate it's very very rare that I get drunk- Xmas birthdays!! I'm a London boy so I talk a lot and not much goes down!! I know all of her good points- I swear to you she is still the most amazing and beautiful girl in the world and I know she told me and that means the world to me.

-I think hitting him was defo immature- I just thought I'd feel better- feel worse today. I now know he was going to say sorry to me and that he'd keep away- I reacted too quickly. I'm an idiot mate but trust me I do protect my family- my Mrs and my kids are my life. Cheers for that- I'm here for opinions/advice.

Edited to say- I also found out he was the lucky one because he offered her some pills- so there they were off their faces having a go in a pub toilet. fucking brilliant.

For the record- I do NOT do drugs. I like a couple of pints of lager and that's it.

[This message edited by idiot85 at 8:07 AM, April 29th (Monday)]


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WW-28

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gonnabe2016
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Default  Posted: 8:48 AM, April 29th (Monday)

Have you considered going to a different pub? Like, one where OM doesn't hang out? This all sounds like drama that could have been avoided.


"Oh, what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive." - Sir Walter Scott

In my effort to be *concise*, I often come off as blunt and harsh. Sorry, don't mean to be offensive.


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idiot85
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Default  Posted: 9:39 AM, April 29th (Monday)

I'm an artist, so is my wife so we usually go around the 'arty' pubs- in the area we live there isn't a massive selection of local pubs.

You're right though- it could be avoided if I change my life but- why should I? To stop all the grief? I'll then be in some new place thinking about why I'm not where I want to be. If you get me? I'm not dismissing your opinion I know what you're saying.


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WW-28

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