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User Topic: Almost six years here and.....
floridaredman
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Default  Posted: 12:08 PM, April 30th (Tuesday)

The amount of information and support here is staggering. The people here are some of the most intelligent and selfless people I have seen or read about.
In my time here I have learned the value of opinions. The way one sees infidelity and the dynamics that lead to it can go through some different avenues.
That being said there will always be two outcomes to infidelity, either you will reconcile or you will part ways. How you get there will depend upon the efforts of both spouses.
For the BS, learning that your spouse was capable of such deception or even being fully aware of their ability to betray you will still be devastating.
It will be a journey of nearly endless questionings, feelings of worthlessness and "what did I do wrong?"
"How could you do this to me/us/children/?"
Also the feelings of despair and loneliness for the BS.
Those questions will not be answered immediately, maybe in some cases they will, but some take a lot of soul searching for both the BS and WS.
The remorseful WS and even the not so remorseful WS is left with the mountain of guilt, shame, embarrassment and self-loathing to climb.
They ask themselves "Why did I do this and how can they even look at me or even stay with me?"

I have seen the not so remorseful WS's come here and get whacked with some very well placed 2x4's and slowly but surely come around.
I have seen them get whacked and never come back.
I watched how the reconciling BS's coach the newly betrayed into confidence and reassurance. I witness how they put "air" back into the vacuum that the betrayers took from them.

I have watched how many Wayward veterans use their wisdom and intellect to place a WS back on course.
There is always hope and even if the marriage or relationship doesn't survive..the tools you gain here will help you should you ever get into another relationship.

Infidelity is not an invincible monster that cannot be slain. It is a mountain that requires skillful climbing. There will be a lot of cuts and bruises while you are climbing. There will be some times when you slip and fall back a few feet.

However, as long as you stay anchored, get another grip and keep pulling yourself up, eventually the mountain will be compromised.
For the WS..take ownership of what you did. Even if your BS was a mean and selfish person..the decision to stray will always rest on you/us. No one can make you betray them..it is a decision/choice or even some would like to call it a mistake..that you/us willed to do. Whatever it is called..it is something that we as WS's own.
Almost six years and I have seen a bevy of reconciliations, separations and divorces. Even new beginnings.
I just wanted to say that I have been honored to be a part of this wonderful community. Sad that it had to be here, but great that it is for those who need it.
Cheers everyone...
FRM


The simplest thing can be the hardest thing to do....FRM

Posts: 2473 | Registered: Jun 2007 | From: Florida
SuperDuperWonderboy
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Default  Posted: 12:12 PM, April 30th (Tuesday)

Thanks FRM.
I recall that you whacked my FWW with some pretty good 2x4's. She doesn't post here anymore, but she still appreciates your input...as do I.


My Friends call me Wonderboy--That's Mr. SuperduperWonderboy to you Tred.


Posts: 1272 | Registered: Feb 2012 | From: Everett
SisterMilkshake
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Default  Posted: 12:24 PM, April 30th (Tuesday)

Great post, FRM, filled with truth and wisdom.

You have helped me understand the wayward thinking and I really appreciate all of your posts.


BW (me) 50ish FWH 50ish
Married 34 years, 3 children
d-day 3/10 LTA (4 yrs./fucking & flirting)

"Oh, why do my actions have consequences?" ~ Homer Simpson
"She knew my one weakness: That I'm weak!" ~ Homer Simpson


Posts: 9415 | Registered: Nov 2010 | From: The Great White North USA
sportsfan
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Default  Posted: 12:27 PM, April 30th (Tuesday)

Well said, floridaredman ... very well said. Glad you're still here!

Posts: 1929 | Registered: Feb 2006 | From: PA
HFSSC
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Default  Posted: 12:27 PM, April 30th (Tuesday)

Thanks for a beautiful, insightful post. I'm another BS whose WS (JMSSC) was helped IMMENSELY by your wisdom and well timed 2X4's.


Me, 47
Him, 40 (JMSSC)
married 17 years. In R. We are making it. The past does not define who we are today.

Posts: 2661 | Registered: Sep 2011 | From: South Carolina
stilllovinghim
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Default  Posted: 12:35 PM, April 30th (Tuesday)

FRM, thanks for reminding *me* that you're still out there floating around reading over the boards. Its a nice reassurance.


ďYou have a choice. Live or die.Every breath is a choice. Every minute is a choice. Every time you don't throw yourself down the stairs, that's a choice. Every time you don't crash your car, you re-enlist.Ē
― Chuck Palahniuk, Survivor

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floridaredman
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Default  Posted: 12:46 PM, April 30th (Tuesday)

Thanks everyone..It has been your collective wisdom that has been an inspiration for me.
EGADS!..did I really smack so many people with 2x4's?

SLH..I'm always hovering around..lol.
The mods can tell you


The simplest thing can be the hardest thing to do....FRM

Posts: 2473 | Registered: Jun 2007 | From: Florida
Jrazz
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Default  Posted: 12:48 PM, April 30th (Tuesday)


We are what we repeatedly do, excellence, then is not an act but a habit. - Aristotle

Posts: 16458 | Registered: Feb 2011 | From: California
JKL Vikings
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Default  Posted: 1:11 PM, April 30th (Tuesday)

Well said FRM,
Cheers to you as well from TX


Her- Alpha Female 40
Me-FWH 41
Married since '02, together since 2000
D-day 2/10/2009
3 sons- J- born Oct 2001
K- born Sept. 2005
L- born Apr. 2008
We ALL have issues. It's how we deal with them that makes the difference

Posts: 515 | Registered: May 2011 | From: Dallas, TX
SandAway
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Default  Posted: 1:32 PM, April 30th (Tuesday)

Always good to see you post FRM, you are a wise one that tells it like it is - usually without fluff.

I think this is the first time I have seen you start a post in the 1.5 years I have been here and it speaks the truth.

as long as you stay anchored, get another grip and keep pulling yourself up, eventually the mountain will be compromised.

choo choo


fWW
BH Tred
M 16yrs
DDay Nov. 2011

Guns don't kill people; Affairs kill people


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Deeply Scared
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Default  Posted: 1:43 PM, April 30th (Tuesday)

FM...

It's always great to see you!!! You are such an important piece to the SI community


"Don't give up, the beginning is always the hardest." My Mom:)

My tolerance for stupid shit is getting less and less.


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MissesJai
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Default  Posted: 1:45 PM, April 30th (Tuesday)

FRM - the one who could make me cry at the drop of a hat. Good to see you.


FWW - 40
I'm big on personal responsibility. Own your shit. ALL OF IT.

Posts: 5769 | Registered: Jul 2009 | From: So Cal.....
WalkinOnEggshelz
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Default  Posted: 1:52 PM, April 30th (Tuesday)

FRM,
I remember when you thought it was time to part ways with SI. I am so glad that you didn't!

Your words if wisdom have been invaluable to me. You can always tell that you are coming from a point of view of caring, even in the form of a 2x4!

Thanks for all that you have contributed to this site.


Me: WS 42
Him: BH 43(HoldingTogether)
M: 18years, together 22
2 Daughters: 13 and 10
D Day: 7/24/2010; TT to 10/17/10
If you keep asking people to give you the benefit of the doubt, they will eventually start to doubt your benefit.

Posts: 616 | Registered: Aug 2010 | From: Texas
thecaves
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Default  Posted: 3:06 PM, April 30th (Tuesday)

Thank you very much for taking the time to post this.

The people here are some of the most intelligent and selfless people I have seen or read about.

You sir are clearly one of the most selfless ones here, to keep coming back after all this time to share messages like this is truly amazing.


Me: WH
Her: BW
Kids: Yes
Married: 20+
D-Day: 12/2012

What defines us is how well we rise after falling.


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wifehad5
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Default  Posted: 3:20 PM, April 30th (Tuesday)

Great post FRM


FBH - 42
FWW - 43 (BrokenRoad)
2 kids 7&12

The people you do your life with shape the life you live


Posts: 36510 | Registered: Jun 2007 | From: Michigan
floridaredman
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Default  Posted: 3:58 PM, April 30th (Tuesday)

wonderboy..I was pretty hard on JNRPA, I'm pretty sure she probably wanted to make a voodoo doll and torture me..lol. It was out of care and hoping she could see through the fog. I am so glad that she was able to with the help of this site and I am humbled to be a part of that.

Sistermilkshake.. I always like to read your words and posts. They have life and wisdom in them.

sportsfan.. I admire how you have a no nonsense approach to helping the BS get their footing back by telling them to stand up for themselves and don't take any WS fogged babblings and blame shiftings.

HFSSC...I was glad to help..always am.

Jrazz back at ya

JKL Vikings...*tink* Cheers from the not so Sunny state of Florida right now

SandAway.. I have been kind of busy and not posting topics, but I would post every now and again to random threads.
I'm always lurking and looking.

choo chooo

DS....I remember you scolding me when I posted in JFO and I'm not allowed to. As you can see..here it is years later and I never did it again... I was like Whewwww..I'm not messing with that lady..
But I know that you have great care for everyone on this site and we are fortunate to have this place that you and MH have created. Thank you a million for that

MissesJai..It was never my intention to make you cry. I was humbled that you were touched. You and INAB are great inspirations to this site. No more crying just smiles please

WalkinOnEggshelz..

I admire and am impressed in how great of a role model you have become to FWW's. You own your poop and make people realize they have to own theirs too if they want a good reconciliation. I always like how you reference how the fog had you and how you came out of it. Great inspiration.

thecaves...

Thank you so much for that. Others here have helped me as well by being selfless..always good to keep paying it forward

wifehad5...

Great post FRM

You don't know how much that means to me coming from you

Thanks everyone..yall are making me blush and that's hard to do


The simplest thing can be the hardest thing to do....FRM

Posts: 2473 | Registered: Jun 2007 | From: Florida
MissesJai
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Default  Posted: 4:09 PM, April 30th (Tuesday)

I know, FRM. I also know that those tears came because your words opened the floodgates. You said what I needed to hear. You forced me to look at things differently. In short, you touched a nerve and in doing so, helped me save myself. I have the utmost respect for you.


FWW - 40
I'm big on personal responsibility. Own your shit. ALL OF IT.

Posts: 5769 | Registered: Jul 2009 | From: So Cal.....
floridaredman
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Default  Posted: 4:20 PM, April 30th (Tuesday)

I know, FRM. I also know that those tears came because your words opened the floodgates. You said what I needed to hear. You forced me to look at things differently. In short, you touched a nerve and in doing so, helped me save myself. I have the utmost respect for you.

Now you almost made me cry...


The simplest thing can be the hardest thing to do....FRM

Posts: 2473 | Registered: Jun 2007 | From: Florida
authenticnow
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Default  Posted: 5:11 PM, April 30th (Tuesday)

Thanks for all you have done here, FRM, and for sticking around to continue helping in a way that only you do!

LD and I joined a few months after you did and I have found such inspiration in your posts along the way, and still do.


Take up your space (and do it well).

"That's the thing about pain, it demands to be felt."


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Aubrie
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Default  Posted: 7:05 PM, April 30th (Tuesday)

You've swung 2x4s directly and indirectly at me on several occasions and they have always been dead on accurate. As bad as they hurt, thanks.

Your wisdom, kindness, and approach have helped countless here. Thank you for continuing to come back and contribute to those at SI who have needed it.


Me - FWW * Him - QuietStand

"Courage is being scared to death and saddling up anyway." - J. Wayne

"What if I fall?" Oh but my darling, what if you fly?


Posts: 6071 | Registered: Nov 2011 | From: South, Y'all!
LosferWords
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Default  Posted: 7:19 PM, April 30th (Tuesday)

FRM! Good to see you. You've provided a lot of insight that has been very helpful to both my wife and I, especially early on. It sounds like things are going well for you and your family. You are a true testament of survival on this site. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience out here to help the rest of us out!


"I would rather take a punch than not give you a shot. I'd rather find out who you are than who you're not."

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Fallen
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Default  Posted: 8:05 PM, April 30th (Tuesday)

FRM! So good to see you and to see that you're doing well. Yep, I know I probably whacked you a time or two back in the day... just paying it forward. Wonderful to see you- and you're an oldtimer now. Pretty amazing, isn't it, what we can accomplish when we want something bad enough.

Wishing you much happiness!


You can't heal what you won't feel.

"There would be no grand absolution, only forgiveness meted out in these precious sips. It would well up from his heart in spoonfuls, and he would feed it to me. And it would be enough."


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ShellShockedSid
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Default  Posted: 8:20 PM, April 30th (Tuesday)

FM-- You were at about the 3.5 year mark when I found this site. I'm at that point now.

I read your posts faithfully. Almost single handedly, you proved to me that waywards can change, and aren't bad people in general. Something that my WH could not do because I could not be objective. When I looked at him, I couldn't see past the hurt. Reading your posts gave me objectivity that I couldn't find on my own.

After reading 2-3 of your posts, I remember thinking, "that is weird. This FWH actually has his $#!% together. How is that possible?!"

I want you to know that you are helping the BWs too. You helped me move forward when I felt stuck in mud.

Congrats on making it 6 years. And thank you.


BW: 46, me
FWH: 48
DDay: 1/22/2010
Reconciling.
"Promise me you'll always remember: You're braver than you believe, and stronger than you seem, and smarter than you think." Christopher Robin to Pooh

Posts: 307 | Registered: Jul 2010 | From: Texas
HUFI-PUFI
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Default  Posted: 9:43 PM, April 30th (Tuesday)

(((FRM))) Nice to see another llurker! You always had encouragement, insight and a good swing with the 2x4 ...


Donít listen to your head, itís easily confused. Donít listen to your heart, its fickle. Listen to your soul, God doesn't steer you wrong.

Posts: 3226 | Registered: Sep 2009 | From: Azilda, Northern Ontario
MissesJai
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Default  Posted: 9:55 PM, April 30th (Tuesday)

Now you almost made me cry...
no way!


FWW - 40
I'm big on personal responsibility. Own your shit. ALL OF IT.

Posts: 5769 | Registered: Jul 2009 | From: So Cal.....
BaxtersBFF
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Default  Posted: 10:52 PM, April 30th (Tuesday)

Hi FRM!

You have such a unique delivery and perspective. Thank you for being such a great contributor to SI.


WH - 44
BW - gerrygirl

Posts: 6097 | Registered: Dec 2009 | From: Boise
burntashes
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Default  Posted: 12:12 AM, May 1st (Wednesday)

Hi FRM. Good to hear from you. You and many on SI have given me the support and wake up call I needed in the past few years, and I'm very thankful for the SI community. Sometimes an honest 2x4 is the best thing that can happen to a WS. The bold honesty delivered in kindness on SI is hard to find IRL. Thanks for sharing what you've learned to help others along.


Me: WW/MH 30s Him: 40s DD: 7 together 14 years, married 13
LTA
I confessed PA 6/10. Detailed confession: 9/10. All the truth 9/11.
Moved back together.

Posts: 352 | Registered: Aug 2010 | From: California
FaithStricken
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Default  Posted: 9:10 AM, May 1st (Wednesday)

From the BS side, many of your posts have reflected genuine empathy and keen insight about the effects of betrayal for the BS. This helped me a lot in the beginning to let go of some of the anger to even begin thinking about reconcilation. Thank you for your time and energy to share your compassion and wisdom.

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floridaredman
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Default  Posted: 10:17 AM, May 1st (Wednesday)

Wow.. Thanks everyone.

Fallen!!..I remember the whacks you gave me. Well I guess if I can swing 2x4's I better be able to take them..lol

HUFI!!!! The ever wise and intellectual one. I am honored to be lurking with you..lol.

burntashes and Faithstricken..When I offer advice, I am always surprised at how people say it helped them or changed their lives. I am honestly just sharing the truth of what I learned on my own and here at SI. I am very happy that the advice was helpful. One thing I have learned is that there is no one fix all cure all, but if the advice given can help fix just one thing or cure one thing..then that's progress.

AN..I admire you and LD. You two were one of the first couples that gave me courage to stay at fixing my own marriage.

Seriously..thank you everyone for all the warm comments


The simplest thing can be the hardest thing to do....FRM

Posts: 2473 | Registered: Jun 2007 | From: Florida
Joanh
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Default  Posted: 12:27 PM, May 1st (Wednesday)

I'm new to this , and not sure where to go or what to do. Dealing what I've done is one of the deepest holes I've been in. Reading on this sight has given me some hope that life will be ok. Thank you


BH 39
WW 43
D day November 9, 2012
3 children 22, 8, 6
Just....

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floridaredman
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Default  Posted: 12:34 PM, May 1st (Wednesday)

I'm new to this , and not sure where to go or what to do. Dealing what I've done is one of the deepest holes I've been in. Reading on this sight has given me some hope that life will be ok. Thank you

Joanh,

If you want you can post a little bit about your situation here on this thread or one of your own. I do not mind at all if you want to post it here..but I feel you will get better feedback and more advice if you started your own.

I and others will be more than happy to help you the best we can


The simplest thing can be the hardest thing to do....FRM

Posts: 2473 | Registered: Jun 2007 | From: Florida
Joanh
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Default  Posted: 5:48 PM, May 1st (Wednesday)

Thank you, and i did, I appreciate all help from WS and BS , I want my M to work and not to screw it up more than what it is allready!


BH 39
WW 43
D day November 9, 2012
3 children 22, 8, 6
Just....

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nowiknow23
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Default  Posted: 5:54 PM, May 1st (Wednesday)

frm - I remember seeing your picture on one of the F&G threads and being completely blown away. In my mind, you were a wise old man. I got the wise part, but was a bit off the mark when I presumed your age.

Thank you for all you do here. You can see from all these responses that your words have helped people on all sides of that mountain.


You can call me NIK

Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something.
- Plato


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floridaredman
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Default  Posted: 6:45 PM, May 1st (Wednesday)


frm - I remember seeing your picture on one of the F&G threads and being completely blown away. In my mind, you were a wise old man. I got the wise part, but was a bit off the mark when I presumed your age.

NIK

I know..I know. Some people swear I know where the fountain of youth is here in Florida..I have to give credit to my parents for it though. My mom is 63 and looks 40


The simplest thing can be the hardest thing to do....FRM

Posts: 2473 | Registered: Jun 2007 | From: Florida
refuz2bavictim
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Default  Posted: 7:19 PM, May 1st (Wednesday)

Thank you for the gifts of your time and thought. Thank you for helping me along in my own journey to healing!

During my BS anger phase I read in Wayward often, trying soooo hard to wrap my head around that which I could not understand! Your posts resonated with me and have helped form a pathway toward forgiveness.


BS:ME DDay: 7/18/09 Last of TT 7/11/10
MOW's EA/PA all were my "friends" but one


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floridaredman
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Default  Posted: 7:35 PM, May 1st (Wednesday)

refuz2bavictim,

Thank you for that. If I did anything, it was helping you do what you were already capable of.


The simplest thing can be the hardest thing to do....FRM

Posts: 2473 | Registered: Jun 2007 | From: Florida
She-Ra
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Default  Posted: 10:13 PM, May 1st (Wednesday)

Hey FRM, I''m glad that you are here to help all the WS with your golden 2x4. I recall being hit by one early on and I thought wow who does this guy think he is? Well I learned that youre Florida red man and that''s how you roll. Any WS that can take a 2x4 by you and learn something will be better off.

Thanks for sticking around. We always need old timers to knock sense into newbies


FWW 33 BH 34
Met 9 yrs ago, together for 7, married for 3
Dday Aug 10, 2012
Beautiful daughter born June 2013

Showing signs of true R. I'm hopeful

The WW formerly known as messedupchick


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housenotahome
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Default  Posted: 10:44 PM, May 1st (Wednesday)

Just like Refuz2bavictim, I read in wayward to gain some understanding. I read your profile 2 years ago and saw raw honesty and so much growth. You opened my eyes to what to what remorse and gratitude looked like. I saw a person who was capable of change and repair and it made me hopeful. Your wife sounds amazing and it takes one to know one. Thank you.


Me BS
Him WS
Married 10 years together 14
DDay Mar.2011
Mistake-Going through a stop sign because you didn't see it.
Poor choice-You saw the stop sign and went through it anyway.

Posts: 772 | Registered: Jun 2011
floridaredman
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Default  Posted: 7:10 AM, May 2nd (Thursday)

Hey FRM, I''m glad that you are here to help all the WS with your golden 2x4.

golden 2x4??

I like it..
I know that I have made people angry sometimes with the way I approach things. I learned that the only way to help yourself and help others is with honesty. I just want people to know that I do care and it is done with compassion. Anger is an emotion that is used to mask or cover something else at times.
If I made someone angry..usually I struck a chord or I just was wrong and pissed them off


housenotahome

Thank you for your post. My wife is amazing. It was her forgiveness and love that helped form the man I am now.


The simplest thing can be the hardest thing to do....FRM

Posts: 2473 | Registered: Jun 2007 | From: Florida
isadora
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Default  Posted: 7:25 PM, May 2nd (Thursday)

FRM,

Good post. I always learn something reading on the wayward side. Thankyou to you (and the other wise waywards) for setting the standard on what I should expect from my FWH.


Me: BW Him: WH
Married: 10 yrs
4 children: DDs 6&4; DSs 2& baby
2 Affairs - 2010 year long PA/EA, 2008 2 month online EA
Multiple D-Days

I can only control myself, no one else. I do not have that kind of power.


Posts: 4501 | Registered: Jul 2010 | From: Back home again in Indiana
longroadhome
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Default  Posted: 4:10 PM, May 3rd (Friday)

FRM

Thank you for your dedication to this site and to helping others with your hard earned wisdom. You were a big part of me getting my head right in my early days here.

Now if we could only find a way to get all of this wisdom out to folks before they make the choice to have an A...

[This message edited by longroadhome at 8:44 AM, May 4th (Saturday)]


Me: WH
Her: BW, and the most amazing, beautiful person I've ever known

It is counterintuitive really... the less we defend our well-being, the more well we feel. ~ Nancy Colier


Posts: 545 | Registered: Jun 2011
cissie
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Default  Posted: 6:14 PM, May 3rd (Friday)

FM. You have captured the essence of this site in your post. There are so many intelligent caring people on here.
MH and DS have done an amazing thing in producing a site that would attract so many good people to it.
I wish I had your communication skills. My posts seldom convey what I really want to say, but people seem to read between the lines and get it anyway.
You and everyone here are truly an oasis in the desert

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OktoberMest
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Default  Posted: 7:40 PM, May 4th (Saturday)

FRM - I echo the others on here - thank you also for your many 2x4s that have given me help/concussion

Truely you are a source of wisdom and always ask the question one must ask oneself. That's the best learning.

Thank you to everyone, including FRM who makes this place so great


Me: FWW (35) Growing up at last.
LonelyHusband: BH (41)
Dday 1: 29/Oct/11; Dday 2:15/Nov/11; last TT 15/Mar/12
In R...working my arse off.
When you're struggling with commitment to your marriage, just imagine what it's like to be a penguin.

Posts: 558 | Registered: Dec 2011 | From: UK
DWBH
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Default  Posted: 10:31 AM, May 6th (Monday)

golden 2x4

Love it! You provided one of these to my FWW when she most needed it last year.

Very nice post; couldn't agree more on the wise and caring community of SI.


Me: BH, 43
Her: FWW, 41 (ThornyRose)
M: 16 years, together 19
2 Daughters: 14 and 12
D Day: 9/25/2011; Lies & TT to 5/4/2012
~Double betrayal; caught them in the act~

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