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Guy43123
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Default  Posted: 7:20 PM, May 11th (Saturday)

My wife has been gone for 11 days and is probably with the OM at this very moment. Technically we are separated but divorce will most likely be the end result. I'd prefer to not get into the details, but this time around was bad, real bad.

Anyway, I'm sitting here in a partially cleaned out house utterly alone and just about to go out of my mind. I can't eat or sleep without great difficulty and the pain in the pit of my stomach is almost unbearable.

Help me get through this. I don't care how... talk to me.


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PurpleBirch
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Default  Posted: 7:23 PM, May 11th (Saturday)

I don't have the right words to make things better for you. Just know that there are people here who hope you make it through the night ok. I know you said you couldn't eat, but is there any way you could have a protein shake?


Me: BS (32)
Him: WH (31)
Married 3 years.
Confessed to PA April 21 2013.

DS (6), DS (18 months)

Aug 30 2013 He gives me back his ring with an ultimatum: "Get over it or get out".

Status: Done like dinner


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Guy43123
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Default  Posted: 7:29 PM, May 11th (Saturday)

I haven't eaten more than a sandwich in 5 days so it might help to get something in me. My options are limited right now though. This is so bad that I sold my guns the other day for fear I'd use one on myself. I am not suicidal, but didn't want to risk it. I do miss her and can't seem to come to terms with being completely alone. It's been 20 years since I was single and I forgot what it was like until now, only now is complicated by overwhelming pain... blinding pain.

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ButterflyGirl
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Default  Posted: 7:49 PM, May 11th (Saturday)

Lots and lots of hugs to you.

Ditto on the protein shakes. I've survived many days on these alone.. I like the Special K ones, every flavor. It's so hard to eat and sleep with the pain of infidelity, but you will feel a lot better when you are able to get some rest and get something in your stomach..

Please know you're not alone, and this woman does NOT deserve you. And you did NOTHING wrong to deserve this. She has major issues. Please don't feel like you did anything wrong. She always had a choice to leave if she wanted, but she chose to cheat instead, and that is serious head trauma for sure that no one deserves..

Good luck to you. ((((((Guy))))))

[This message edited by ButterflyGirl at 7:49 PM, May 11th (Saturday)]


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Default  Posted: 8:02 PM, May 11th (Saturday)

We've all been there friend. There's nothing we can say to make it go by faster because the only way through it is through it.

I remember the agony well. Your words burn me like a white hot poker. But it has now passed.

I thought I would die of heartbreak. I really did. I thought I would just bleed out and fade away.

Now I look back, shake my head and think "That guy? THAT is the guy that had me on my knees? That is the guy I felt like I was dying over?????".

You WILL get through this friend. I promise you that. You will see this all as a blessing in disguise. I am slowly learning to be grateful for the lessons this shit has taught me.

Be gentle with yourself. Look after yourself as best you can. I lost 20kgs in a month. Let yourself grieve this. Drink lots of water. Force yourself to eat something. Lay down and nap throughout the day. Don't torture yourself with mind movies.

Whenever you miss her remember her face as she cut your heart out. Remember her eyes as she lied to you.

You are in shock. Your world has just been altered in a huge way.

It will pass. You will feel good again. You won't hurt this bad forever. In time you'll only feel a twinge every now and then.

That damn four letter word - time. But you've also got to keep looking after yourself lest you fall down that rabbit hole.

((Guy43123)) Know that none if this is your fault. They were broken well before we came along. This is all the aftermath of toxic coping mechanisms of terribly broken people.

One day you'll be thankful that she set you free. But for now - just breathe, sometimes just getting through the next second, the next minute, the next hour is all you need to do.

Just breathe.


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Guy43123
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Default  Posted: 8:11 PM, May 11th (Saturday)

The only thing that keeps me sane is the fact that I've been through this before... with the same woman, only I hadn't married her yet. I know, a HUGE mistake on my part, and now I am paying the price for that mistake.

It was a bad marriage almost from the start. She cheated multiple times and I knew very well that when something came along to upset her, she'd do it again, and again, but I stayed for fear of being alone.

My situation is far worse than her leaving me. While I co-own the home with her, I will have to go live with my mother for a time until the house is sold. But it gets worse, I have to stay in the house until I finish remodeling it before it can ever be sold. Before, I was working to make a better home for my wife and I, but now it is just an empty shell, full of painful memories, and having to work to improve it is killing me inside.


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ButterflyGirl
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Default  Posted: 9:47 PM, May 11th (Saturday)

She cheated multiple times and I knew very well that when something came along to upset her, she'd do it again, and again, but I stayed for fear of being alone.

That's some terrible coping mechanisms she has, but the good thing is, she is NOT your problem anymore..

I understand your fear of being alone, I had it too.. But counseling and reaching out on this website has helped tremendously, because there's some issues there that can be worked on, low self-esteem, co-dependency, etc., so I think that would help you too.. You need to figure out why you allowed this woman to treat you so horribly so many times, cause you don't deserve that, no one does..

If she has tried to blame her cheating on stress, you, anything else but herself, please know that's complete bullshit. She made a choice. She always had the choice to LEAVE you first. Perhaps you have always let her blame it on other things and that's why things never got better, because she was never willing to put the blame where it belongs, on herself, and deal with her own issues.

Good luck with your house, sounds like a lot of work, so I hope it goes smoothly for you. Try to picture that all the work you're doing is for yourself, to give yourself a better new beginning.

Lots of hugs to you..


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Williesmom
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Default  Posted: 10:02 PM, May 11th (Saturday)

((Guy)) I hear you. My Wxh cheated on me while we were dating. I was married to him for 19 years, and he cheated on me throughout the marriage also.

One minute at a time. Just get through it. Keep busy, and see your Dr. for med to help you sleep.

The sharpness of your pain will become a dull ache with time. It gets better, but it takes time.

Know that you did all that you could to save the marriage. She is not worthy of you. You can do this.


You can stuff your sorries in a sack, mister. -George Costanza
There is a special place in hell for women who don't help other women. - Madeleine Albright

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Jayne Doe
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Default  Posted: 10:06 PM, May 11th (Saturday)

The only thing I can tell you is that I know exactly how you are feeling right now.
Those are the worst of days and I know they feel like they will never end.

Here are some ways that I coped.
Walked, I'd put on my headphones and go for long walks.
Music - I don't think I would have gotten thru if it wasn't for music. I'd go on Youtube and search for songs to make me cry. Songs that sent a message of FU. Songs that gave me strength. I made playlists and I would listen and listen.
Movies - dumb, stupid movies that would hold my interest but not make me have to analyze or get into any deep thinking.
And SI. I would sit here for hours and read and read.

You WILL get thru this. You will!

Keep yourself hydrated at the very least. Water. Juice. Try and get something down. You need your strength, you're body is in a state of shock right now and you need to take care of yourself.

Just know that everything you are feeling is normal and it will get better. You will feel stronger. And there will be a day when you will think of her and say GOOD RIDDANCE.

Sending hugs!!


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30y M traded in for a POM (pathetic Old Maid 46, 2 kids from different dads. never married)
S 11/11, D final 1/14.

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dmari
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Default  Posted: 11:07 PM, May 11th (Saturday)

You have come to the right place Guy43123. This part is physically the hardest part. PLEASE know that what you are going through IS trauma. Don't minimize it. It will hurt like hell. The physical pain does not last. YOU MUST stay hydrated. If you can't eat, then drink at least smoothies or ensure. You need nutrients. As much as you need your sleep, it may be impossible. Please consider seeing your doctor for xanax to take the edge off. You will still feel the hard range of emotions but it will allow you to sleep. Read here constantly. Do not be embarrassed ~ get support from friends and family.

Remember, you are experiencing trauma and grief. Very very real. The death of the woman you thought you married, the marriage itself, future plans with your WS.

Please post often. We care about you.


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Mediation date: 7/10/14 and 7/22/14
Final final court date: Oct 2014

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Default  Posted: 9:08 AM, May 12th (Sunday)

((((Guy43123))))
I remember those days well. I couldn't eat more than a small bag of apple slices every couple days and would usually throw that up. I existed on coffee and cigarettes (NOT RECOMMENDED. I found that when I cried it helped, allowing myself to FEEL the pain allowed me to HEAL. It took a long time. I watched movies, I listened to songs, I made it through. It did help to live with my family again. They knew me and loved me and encouraged me to be better. Post, read and vent here often. It helps too, a lot.


Me: 45 BS Divorced
Him: 45 Married OW
DDay: 07/04/2008
Divorced: 06/15/2011
5 kids: IrishLass 27,IrishLad 25, IrishLass 22, IrishLad 21 and IrishLad 12
"You can't run from trouble..there ain't no place that far"

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IrishLass518
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Default  Posted: 11:26 AM, May 12th (Sunday)

PS Alone hasn't been terrible. I actually enjoy it. I have control of the remote. I get to pick the restaurants. I decide what groceries I buy with no guilt. I don't have to answer "where is all of our money?" I get to read the books I like, listen to music I like, talk to whomever I chose and the list goes on. Alone is not bad, I have re discovered myself and I know that I can make it with or without someone else in my life. I like me and that is very valuable


Me: 45 BS Divorced
Him: 45 Married OW
DDay: 07/04/2008
Divorced: 06/15/2011
5 kids: IrishLass 27,IrishLad 25, IrishLass 22, IrishLad 21 and IrishLad 12
"You can't run from trouble..there ain't no place that far"

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Default  Posted: 12:16 PM, May 12th (Sunday)

(((Guy))) I remember what you're going through. Believe me, it WILL get better. It takes time, but you will get through this.

Please, be sure to drink lots of water. You do not want a kidney stone on top of all the other crap.


This above all: to thine ownself be true,
And it must follow, as the night the day,
Thou canst not then be false to any man.

Hamlet, Act I, Scene 3

Love all, trust a few, do wrong to none.

All's Well That Ends Well, Act I, Scene 1


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devistatedmom
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Default  Posted: 7:25 PM, May 12th (Sunday)

Take it easy on yourself Guy. Drink water. If you can't remember to eat, at least make sure you have water around. Try to eat something when you think of it. I know it's tough.

One thought for you, although you don't have to make a decision on it now...first, you get through one day at a time. But the house? Nothing says you have to finish the remodel if being there is painful. Yes, you will get less money for it selling without it done, but, is the amount worth your sanity?


BS(me) 46, Two wonderful teens.
He is no longer my best friend. Repeat until it sticks.

WH says marriage is over: May 15, 2009.
EA#2 July 20, 2009. Legally sep: Aug 16, 2009. DIVORCED!!!! Signed Nov 23, final Dec 24, 2010, adultery listed.


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Ashland13
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Default  Posted: 8:24 AM, May 13th (Monday)

HI Guy,

I'm sorry for your rough time. It is pain like nothing I ever felt before. I have a chronic disease and have given birth, but absolutely nothing prepared me for the depth of this very personal agony, as you are going through now.

Yes, my belly gets to feeling like a pit. I lost 30 pounds in a few weeks time and slept about an hour a night. The pills don't work for me. They knock me out but I'm a single mom now so can't do that.

I, too, and DD are losing the house we built. It's a log house and another dream that Perv has ruined for us without telling me.

A lot of soul searching has led to a few answers for me and I don't know if they will help you, but I too, hung onto him because it was familiar and I think I've been born to be a married person.

He hid himself away while married -20 years of it-and I think finally burst apart when he lost a second job in two years. He then turned all of his failures on me and gets mad about my successes, so is going to take me down further and force me out of our house.

Anyway...the soul searching I mentioned led me to finally understand that what I knew of this person for 20 years may not even have been real-it was his personality he showed me but contuniousy hid his true character from me and the world around us.

Now, it is like two people-the man I knew, who showed support and love and this man in my exh's body but who doesn't give damn about anyone but himself.

Another thing that helps is to know that it is universally thought that he doesn't really "care" for OW either. Ow is a vice, an escape, a resource, as perhaps your WW's OM's have been. He is in for a big surprise if he thinks he can make it work long term with her and sounds a little similar to your WW, if it's all right to say, where they are not dealing with their own selves but think that by changing the people and surroundings, it will fix all of their problems.

Their problems are not their spouses, their problems are inside and one of my solaces is hearing other people say that he doesn't seem happy, even now.

Yes, in my darkest hours, I came to SI because I could "work on it" but people in my virtual support system tire of it. There is comfort in the anonymity of SI as well and I felt less alone in my mind on here knowing how many people exist in the world who have had it happen, too.

It astounds me how many people in the world have to go through this.

It took me forever and a day to understand that STBXH had no intention of never returning to me, but he never, ever told me those words. He just abandoned us and never filed, never got a L, just left us in this purgatory. So I hope eventually, when the fog begins to clear, that you can make choices sooner than I did.

Our house may go up for sale with "As is" on it, as Perv doesn't tend to finish anything he starts, so I've been trying to prepare myself for more dead dreams there.

I, too, may end up living with family and am trying to come to terms with it.

My first foods were chips and gingerale, unflavored food that had a little bit of calories but I couldn't tolerate flavors and I can't eat when the grief comes.

I was at a point when I didn't know what the day was, the time and sometimes I was surprised when morning came again...I couldn't stop them from coming. Then the dream of all dreams happened and he came back, but it was a trick. I got pregnant but didn't know it and he was gone very soon after.

Hearing other varieties of peoples stories also helps me and knowing that people in all walks of life are living the very pain that you are.

Again, I'm very sorry for it and hope that soon you will find some comfort in any part of life and keep doing that.

One thing that did help me had to do with my senses when I was in the early part as you are.

One thing I could grasp was scents, in a way, aroma therapy.

Another thing that helped me was hot and cold mixes-like a really, really hot bath or shower mixed with a glass of cold water. The mix of sensations reached into my inner self during the heavy fog and grief and it was like a little light in the sky at night. Then I would do it again and again.

The other thing I did/do when the grief is overwhelming is go to my car. I call it my "mediation chamber." I put the seat all the way flat and turn up the radio til it's vibrating. It has a subwoofer under the chair and that thumping somehow spoke to my innermost thoughts and the sensations of the vibrations brought my mind out of some of the grief into the present. By reclining the chair and opening the sunroof, all I could see was the sky. So earth melted away and the earthly problems brought upon me. It helped panic attacks and that pit in the bottom of my stomach would ebb, so that soon I was bring the chips and soda there and that's how I began eating again.

Best wishes for finding something to harness the grief.


Ashland 13

A person is a person, no matter how small. -Dr. Suess


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Default  Posted: 8:30 AM, May 13th (Monday)

^^That is beautiful Ashland. Really beautiful.


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Guy43123
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Default  Posted: 1:22 PM, May 16th (Thursday)

Sorry I've been away for a while but as you can imagine I've been dealing with a lot.

There have been some new developments that I'm not quite certain how to interpret so if anyone can give me their opinion I'd be very grateful.

My soon to be ex-wife and I have been talking and trying to sort things out for a peaceful divorce, which I now believe is the only option.

She is still out of the home and says she will return at the end of the month to do what we need to do. However, she is pushing hard for us to get divorced ASAP by going to the court house and filing irreconcilable differences. We would split the proceeds from the house after it was sold and have agreed on who would get what with regard to cars trucks etc... However, she knows that I could get her for adultery and alimony because I took time off work to remodel the home, to which she agreed. I also suspect that she has hidden money, somewhere. Then there is the cost of lawyers, a lengthy divorce, etc...

Now, here is the kicker, and this just doesn't jive with any sense of reality to me. She says that we can get a divorce, sell the house, and move down south together, in this case she mentioned the state where the OM lives. Yep, huge red flag there. Personally, I suspect that she is trying to con me into giving her a painless divorce so she can move away to be with the OM.

Thoughts anyone?


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ButterflyGirl
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Default  Posted: 1:44 PM, May 16th (Thursday)

My thought is screw her and what she wants. Obviously she isn't considering what's best for you, so you need to protect yourself. I recommend a lawyer consultation ASAP to start learning your rights. Don't let this bitch ride off into the sunset because it might be easier. Fight for what you deserve or you might regret it later..


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Guy43123
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Default  Posted: 1:55 PM, May 16th (Thursday)

Oh I definitely will be prepared for a fight if necessary. I also want to keep it simple and painless because the house is my only real concern.

Oddly enough, if she is being honest about us moving down south together to reboot our lives and act as roommates, I am totally ok with that because I do need to restart my career and having company would make it easier, even if that company is my ex-wife. We even discussed helping each other find dates, etc...

It was a bad marriage from the start and I can accept that it's over. What I can't accept is the possibility that she is trying to screw me so she can be with the OM, who she claims is just a friend. Yeah right, like no one has ever heard that line before.

I want to believe that what she is telling me is true, but my gut says it is bullshit so I intend to pay along until I can formulate a good game plan. When money permits, I definitely plan to retain a lawyer. In the mean time, I'm simply trying to figure out what her plan is.


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crisp
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Default  Posted: 2:09 PM, May 16th (Thursday)

Fool me once...


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5454real
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Default  Posted: 2:10 PM, May 16th (Thursday)

Divorce is war brother. She is not and will not be your friend throughout this process. Afterwards, maybe, but during the process, absolutely not.

but my gut says it is bullshit

You see it on this site all the time. If you are ever in doubt, listen to your gut.

IMHO, she will do/say anything for an amicable divorce.

However, she knows that I could get her for adultery and alimony because I took time off work to remodel the home, to which she agreed. I also suspect that she has hidden money, somewhere

Do whatever it takes to get representation. Find out what your rights are before a move is made in any direction.

Brother, she's probably even going to tell you she's got a hot chick lined up for you when you move!

Stay strong!


BH 51, WW 42
DS 23(Mine),SD 21,SS 20(Hers),DS 9 Ours, DGS 3, DGD 1 mo
D=Day #1 5/04EA (Rugswept)
D-Day #2 3/10/12, TT til 3/13/12
Married 10yrs
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Guy43123
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Default  Posted: 2:42 PM, May 16th (Thursday)

I definitely don't trust her at all and plan to get a lawyer ASAP. I've asked her point blank if she wanted to go and be with the OM but as expected she denied it. At this point it's just a game and I intend to play along, being the poor sappy husband who only wants everything to go smoothly. That's what she expects so that's what she'll get. I am no fool and will take her for ll I can if she does what I think she will do.

On the other hand, if she is being honest, I will not make it messy. Either way, I absolutely will not grant her a divorce until I have concrete proof that she is not lying. At this point, I'm thinking a legal separation is my best move to stall for time, which is what I am doing... stalling for time. Playing the role she expects.

Oh, I so believe this is going to get messy, but I hope not. Time will tell.


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Guy43123
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Default  Posted: 2:47 PM, May 16th (Thursday)

Oh, and there is something else she and I discussed that just doesn't sound right to me. She said her and I could be friends with benefits. Come on, is she serious? Don't get me wrong, being a newly single male, I'd do it but again, I call bullshit. Would someone actually have sex with their ex or soon-to-be ex just to keep the illusion going? This is definitely not the woman I married.

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Default  Posted: 2:57 PM, May 16th (Thursday)

Lol, lol lol

IMHO, she will do/say anything for an amicable divorce.

Brother, she's probably even going to tell you she's got a hot chick lined up for you when you move!

She said her and I could be friends with benefits.

Um

Come on, is she serious? Don't get me wrong, being a newly single male, I'd do it but again, I call bullshit. Would someone actually have sex with their ex or soon-to-be ex just to keep the illusion going?

Yep, they will!

ETA I just didn't think that she would offer herself as the hot chick. It's all rainbows and unicorns to her brother. Absolutely nothing wrong with her offer in her mind. Step back a second and imagine yourself listening to your best friend telling you that story. What would your reaction be?

[This message edited by 5454real at 3:01 PM, May 16th (Thursday)]


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DS 23(Mine),SD 21,SS 20(Hers),DS 9 Ours, DGS 3, DGD 1 mo
D=Day #1 5/04EA (Rugswept)
D-Day #2 3/10/12, TT til 3/13/12
Married 10yrs
I have no love for a friend who loves in words alone.
― Sophocles, Antigone

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Guy43123
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Default  Posted: 3:09 PM, May 16th (Thursday)

To be perfectly honest, I mean brutally honest, I'd continue to have sex with her for no other reason than because I know how she is and because I'd be contributing to her cheating on him. I know, that kind of makes me the OM in this case but I don't care. The bastard is getting exactly what he deserves and I will relish every second that I'm putting it to her while he thinks she is loyal to him.

See, I know her, I know her well. Her loyalty changes constantly, and I know very well that she'll do it to him too. Often.

Am I one totally fucked up individual or what? Or maybe this is just the inevitable result of having endured this shit for so many years. I don't know, but will say this... from now on, my best interests will be my primary objective no matter what.

Welcome to the human condition.


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Guy43123
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Default  Posted: 3:14 PM, May 16th (Thursday)

Oh, and in the interest of full disclosure...

I was a bad husband for many years, so she is perfectly justified in wanting to leave me. That's right, I said I was a bad husband and I don't say that because of some crap she put in my head. However, I will not stand buy and let that OM prick fucking get away with this shit. I will fuck him sideways if I can.


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Guy43123
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Default  Posted: 3:22 PM, May 16th (Thursday)

Sorry, more senseless rambling from me. But...

I want to believe that her offer to work out the details of the divorce and move south together to reboot our lives is genuine, and I could totally accept it, I really could. Even the thought of her dating other men is ok with me because it would be AFTER our divorce and we would be living together as roommates.

But dammit, what if she is just playing me for a fool, or at least trying to? On the other hand, what if she is not?

Oh hell, this shit is a total mind fuck and I simply don't know what is real anymore. Two weeks ago I thought life was just peachy, and now I am facing the very real reality that everything I knew is bullshit. I will have to sell just about everything I own and have no idea where I'l end up.

Does anyone have any insight into this mess that is my life? Please?


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Guy43123
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Default  Posted: 3:26 PM, May 16th (Thursday)

Seriously, I'll just ask this point blank.

Is it even in the realm of possibility that she and I could go south and live as roommates? Maybe the OM is really just a friend? Oh hell, I dunno.


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Default  Posted: 3:27 PM, May 16th (Thursday)

In some states, if you resume sexual relations after you find out about the adultery, you then cannot file for divorce listing adultery as the reason. It is presumed by the court that if you have sex after discovery you have forgiven the adultery.


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Him = EX-d out (abusive troglodyte NPD SA)
3 tween-aged kids
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Default  Posted: 3:29 PM, May 16th (Thursday)

Get the D. Find out where things stand afterwards. LAWYER!!! The like you said, FWB!


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DS 23(Mine),SD 21,SS 20(Hers),DS 9 Ours, DGS 3, DGD 1 mo
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D-Day #2 3/10/12, TT til 3/13/12
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ButterflyGirl
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Default  Posted: 4:02 PM, May 16th (Thursday)

If she's so willing to be FWB with you, just think what she's willing to do with tons of other guys..

And honestly, if you guys divorce, I don't think you get any more say on who she dates. I get it, I would rather my STBX was with ANYONE but MOW, but it's just not my business anymore.. And guess what? He's cheating on her with a 21-year-old twink.. And I have a feeling your wife will cheat on OM, if she isn't already, with you or anyone else.

I think your best move right now is to DETACH from this woman. It seems like she's playing you, dangling sex and promises so that you will give her what she wants. IMO, you should close the bakery, stop talking to her, and lawyer up.. Stop worrying about what she's thinking, what she's doing, what her plans are, etc., and just focus on what you want. And I wouldn't include her in any of your plans. She sounds very manipulating, and I would keep my distance if I were you..

Divorce is war brother.

Hell yeah it is..


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ButterflyGirl
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Default  Posted: 4:10 PM, May 16th (Thursday)

Is it even in the realm of possibility that she and I could go south and live as roommates? Maybe the OM is really just a friend?

To answer your questions point blank, in my opinion, no.

If he's just a "friend," he is a friend *with benefits.*


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Guy43123
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Default  Posted: 4:23 PM, May 16th (Thursday)

I have little doubt that the OM is more than she is letting on. But, and that is a big but...


Part of me is starting to think all that has happened will ultimately be a good thing. Sure, the OM is a dirt bag worthy of being burned at the stake, but when I look at the totality of my marriage I must admit that it was a bad mix and neither of us is truly the marrying kind. She has a roving eye and while I have never cheated on her I must admit that I do as well.

If, and that is a HUGE if, she is sincere about divorcing and moving south together as roommates, I am beginning to find the prospect exciting. Life has been stagnant and boring for man years and the prospect of facing the unknown for the first time in 20 years is very appealing to me.

How sick is that?


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homewrecked2011
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Default  Posted: 5:36 PM, May 16th (Thursday)

First, see an atty, free consult.

In my state, A= 60/40 split on assets and they get 60% of the debt.

Nature girl is right about NOT having sex now, it will make it impossible for you to claim A perhaps.

Here's how it works in my state...I filed for divorce. The petition read homewrecked has been informed WH is in an affair and she believes this.

Then we had a primary hearing.

The judge granted "discovery". I was able to subpoena phone record and bank records. I prob could have sub more stuff, but 200 texts a day sent me into outpatient status at a "behavioral center",, where incidentally 5 other women were there for the same reason. well, one woman ran her husband over with her car first!!! LOl

Anyway, once I got those records, my atty called his atty,showed him what we had, and then my XWH settled with me and I got lots more than I thought I would bc of the texting records. I could have gotten a PI, but I had enough at this point.

So, moral of story, go to atty first. Please.

Stop talking to her. She is mentally ill.

I stayed in the shower LOTS at first to de-stress.

Please read the first 2 chapters of Love must be tough by Dr James Dobson. RIght off the bat he talks about how to handle your spouse if you've given into 3somes with your spouse just to try to keep them or for any other reason. Agreeing to have sex with your w and letting her be free to be with him is same thing. But, it's what many people here thought might keep their spouse.

Even if you sucked at being a husband, she could have filed for D, then got a boyfriend, just like a NORMAL person would have done.

She has been sick a long time. There is a "root"in her that is diseased and the "bloom" you are seeing is the "bloom" of her sickness. She was like this before you and will be like this after you.

HELL-- the OW in my story-her first husband KILLED the OM and himself. It didn't stop her-- she's doing the same thing with her current H and my H. Of coarse it's the "just a friend thing".

Keep posting here,,,we all feel your pain.

[This message edited by homewrecked2011 at 5:39 PM, May 16th (Thursday)]


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Guy43123
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Default  Posted: 6:12 PM, May 16th (Thursday)

In my state, A= 60/40 split on assets and they get 60% of the debt.

As I do the math, I'm beginning to see that financially it might be in my best interest not to fight her in the divorce. She is allowing me to keep a number of marital assets that are valued at around 30k and the most I'd stand to gain financially from fighting her is 10-15k plus the added cost of having to pay an attorney.

Granted, I do suspect that she has money stashed in a secret bank account but I'm relatively certain it's in her mothers name and I'd have a very hard time proving it was in fact her's.

The there is the fact that taking the easy way out would be considerably faster and less painful. Sure, the discovery process would reveal proof of the affair such as phone records or FB messages, but do I really want to see that stuff? Ive seen enough already.

So..... Maybe I should just stick it to her (sexually) and be done with it. At least I get some sort of satisfaction out of it that way. Oh hell, I don't know what to do.


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Default  Posted: 6:23 PM, May 16th (Thursday)

So..... Maybe I should just stick it to her (sexually) and be done with it. At least I get some sort of satisfaction out of it that way. Oh hell, I don't know what to do.

More likely you'll get a nasty STD out of it, rather than satisfaction.


Me = BS (Stay-at-home-mom)
Him = EX-d out (abusive troglodyte NPD SA)
3 tween-aged kids
Together 20 years
D-Day: Memorial Weekend 2011
2013 - I DIVORCED HIM, I'M FREE!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBOJpIwF47Y

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Guy43123
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Default  Posted: 6:33 PM, May 16th (Thursday)

More likely you'll get a nasty STD out of it, rather than satisfaction.

It would almost be worth it.... almost. Then I also have my self-respect to consider as well. It's a nice thought but I doubt that I'd actually do it for real. I have a friend who I've known and trusted for years that would be willing to help me in the sex department. She is single and quite picky about men, where I just happen to be one she has never got lucky with. :)

The thing that nags at me most about my wife, is that I'm dying to know if she is sincere about moving south and renting an apartment together, but I have no idea why I need to know this.


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Skan
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Default  Posted: 7:20 PM, May 16th (Thursday)

Frankly? You don''t need to know if she''s sincere about the move or not. You just simply do not need to know. What you do need to do is file for divorce.

Listen, you''re allowing her to get into YOUR head and spin her lies. You are allowing her to de-rail your recovery. You are allowing her to get close to you again, and you know from your track record that the only reason she wants to get close to you, is to stick a knife in you. Hell, if you did actually have sex with her, it wouldn''t surprise me if it was the loudest, kinkyest sex you ever had with her, and your found that she had a VAR under the bed and was now sobbing about her violation by you to the police.

5454real has it right. Divorce is war. She is not and will not be your friend through this process. You need to focus on winning the war scoring on skirmishes will get you no where. Victory conditions.


Imagine a ship trying to set sail while towing an anchor. Cutting free is not a gift to the anchor. You must release that burden, not because the anchor is worthy, but because the ship is.

D-Day, June 10, 2012



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