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Tred
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Default  Posted: 12:58 PM, May 17th (Friday)

I didn't want to T/J the Ghostbuster thread, but personally I don't believe in ghosts, spirits, or whatever you want to call them. I actually think it would be cool to stay in for real haunted house, but maybe they are only haunted for believers . Of course, I do like messing with people who do believe in ghosts, such as my wife. So do you believe in ghosts? If so, why? If not, why not? My "why not" is I've never seen any evidence of anything paranormal that couldn't be explained scientifically. And seeing something that was filmed on television to get ratings and sell commercials cannot, IMO, be considered authentic. I do believe I'll have a beer soon, and enjoy my Friday evening while I contemplate the "spirits"


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Default  Posted: 1:12 PM, May 17th (Friday)

I do believe because I've had too many experiences that couldn't be explained with science.

Some experiences date back to my childhood and were pretty scary, so I won't list those. The most recent experience was I heard a young child's laugh/giggle (different than my children) late at night next to my bed. No one was in the room and my children were asleep.


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Default  Posted: 1:16 PM, May 17th (Friday)

I do. Just a lot of moments, could be explained, but I don't mind the notion.

I've never seen any evidence of anything paranormal that couldn't be explained scientifically

My high school physics teacher believed the spirit leaves the body at death. He said that the carbon weight decreases ever so slightly after death, and the decrease has yet to be accounted for scientifically.

[This message edited by Crescita at 1:16 PM, May 17th (Friday)]


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Default  Posted: 1:21 PM, May 17th (Friday)

I do. Like simplyd I have experiences going back to childhood. I have seen actual spirits--I'm promise I'm not a kook either. I don't talk about it with many people because it seems strange just saying it out loud even and the time I have shared some of my experiences people looked at me like, well like I was a kook!


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Default  Posted: 1:30 PM, May 17th (Friday)

Cool! And for the record, I'm not trying to start a debate on whether or not ghosts/spirits/faeries are real, just interested in if you believe in them or not. There are no wrong answers, and I would be the last one to question someone else personal experience. That's why I think it would be fun to stay in a haunted house, or somewhere people are affected by paranormal experiences.


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Default  Posted: 1:35 PM, May 17th (Friday)

There are a lot of sites out there that list places (restaurants, B&B's, etc...) that you can go to. There's a restaurant just south of me that in a certain room (it's in an hold house) people have experienced things, like being tapped on the shoulder while dining.


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Default  Posted: 2:23 PM, May 17th (Friday)

My friend and I were having this conversation years ago. I said that I didn't want to rule anything out, but until I saw one I didn't exactly believe in their existence.

Then one presented. Scared us s#!%less but answered my question.

I owe Authenticnow the full story but I don't have the time to type it all out here.

ETA: We were scared because it was both completely unexpected and coincidental. Nothing jumped out and yelled boogety boo.

[This message edited by Jrazz at 2:43 PM, May 17th (Friday)]


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Default  Posted: 2:27 PM, May 17th (Friday)

Yes. I've had experiences as an adult that were unsettling or without explanation but the things from when I was a child were terrifying and more frequent.
In my experience nothing makes you sound like a nut quicker than telling the stories so I don't.. but yes, I do.



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Default  Posted: 2:32 PM, May 17th (Friday)

I really want to believe, but I've never had a really concrete experience; I've always thought that my father or my grandmother would make themselves known to me if they were in the afterlife. Then I think it would probably scare the shit out of me, so they're probably doing me a favor by not showing themselves.

I've had some 'experiences' but nothing like sully's.


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Default  Posted: 2:53 PM, May 17th (Friday)

I do

My first experience was when I was 14 or 15. My friend died but I didnt find out for a few hrs later. (Friend came to visit. but I didnt see him. I felt him)

Another at age 16.

When I was pregnant with dd two pennies were left in a cereal bowl. Wh was in CR for two weeks. I was the only one home.

The girl and dog (unrelated to each other) in my former apt

This new house thing is freaky. Ive never had negative before.

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Default  Posted: 3:34 PM, May 17th (Friday)

The most recent experience was I heard a young child's laugh/giggle (different than my children) late at night next to my bed. No one was in the room and my children were asleep.


We're the first owners of the house we live in now, so it shouldn't be haunted, but our lights and faucets have a way of turning themselves on every now and again.


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Default  Posted: 3:42 PM, May 17th (Friday)

I don't. The mind cannot exist without the body.


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Default  Posted: 4:02 PM, May 17th (Friday)

My high school physics teacher believed the spirit leaves the body at death. He said that the carbon weight decreases ever so slightly after death, and the decrease has yet to be accounted for scientifically.

That explains it. My soul is fat.


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Default  Posted: 4:14 PM, May 17th (Friday)

Yes, I do.


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Default  Posted: 4:25 PM, May 17th (Friday)

I do believe, I do believe, I do believe in ghost.

My mothers house has spirits that are there. Many people have experienced stuff there. My niece at the age of 3 didn't like sleeping in her room. She told my sister one night that people keep talking to her. She told her to tell them to leave her alone, they did. Children voices are heard all the time. The house is about 140 years old and was once the house where the priest would live for the local catholic church.

Nothing scary just paranormal. We do not call the house haunted but spirited.


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Default  Posted: 4:43 PM, May 17th (Friday)

I don't think I do- I like the 'scared' feeling though so I'm remaining open minded

My daughter swears an old lady was in her room a couple of years ago and told her she'd turn her heart into a pumpkin but we've put it down to sleepy 3 year old and Disney.

My SIL believed her though- we live in a Victorian house so... Plenty of people will have passed through!!


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Default  Posted: 4:48 PM, May 17th (Friday)

I don't believe in ghosts but most of my friends do.


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Default  Posted: 4:58 PM, May 17th (Friday)

I do. I had one experience when I was about 13/14, in the children's home I grew up in. Before lights out, I made *sure* my closet door was closed. Heard it latch. When I woke up the next morning, it was ajar about 2 inches. *Someone* opened the door and it wasn't me. I didn't have a roommate either.


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Default  Posted: 6:03 PM, May 17th (Friday)

I woke up one night and there was a man standing over my bed. I was terrified but I couldn't scream. Then I felt the mattress start to depress--he was climbing into the bed! Then I screamed & woke the X; he said, very calmly, "It was my father." (A very evil man who died a few years earlier.) This has since been explained to be as a night terror. I'm not totally convinced...

I also saw a woman wearing a long skirt and a shawl walk into the room where I was working at a BIA agency office in Montana. I was walking down the hall toward the office. When I got there (within a few seconds, no one was in the room. I checked the kitchen next door and no one was in there either. I was told it was the 'Shawl Woman' who haunts the agency. It was a brand new building but it was explained to me that it had never been blessed.

Who knows?


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Default  Posted: 6:09 PM, May 17th (Friday)

I no longer only believe what I see. For me it is in the who knows category. For me it is could be.


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Default  Posted: 6:20 PM, May 17th (Friday)

I do, I've had a few experiences over the years.


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Default  Posted: 7:25 PM, May 17th (Friday)

These are some great stories! I couldn't find any information on carbon weight decreasing on death, but that doesn't disprove it. It would be awesome to believe that I could be a spirit...I know who I'd haunt! (Infidelity free zone reminder here ) But it would be cool to be like Patrick Swayze in Ghost!


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Default  Posted: 7:41 PM, May 17th (Friday)

But it would be cool to be like Patrick Swayze in Ghost!

Your MUCH sexier the Patrick Swayze


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Default  Posted: 7:44 PM, May 17th (Friday)

Yes, I do. I haven't had any particular experiences but I think there are a lot of unexplainable things in this world and it could be ghosts or spirits. Why not? I kind of like the thought of it, as there are people I would like to haunt many, many years from now.


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Default  Posted: 7:54 PM, May 17th (Friday)

Apparently I have a ghost with gas in my house because when I walk into the bedroom and it smells like rotten eggs, WH "swears" it wasn't him. Must be a ghost.

But really, yes I do believe. I've had my own experiences. I also believe I can be sensitive to such things. One day I'll read about using my ability. But damn, I'm lazy.


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Default  Posted: 8:00 PM, May 17th (Friday)

when I walk into the bedroom and it smells like rotten eggs

Isn't a sulphur smell one of the clues? There are a lot of anecdotal similarities in stories, and I thing smelling sulphur is one of them. But it could just be your WH has some funky gas


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Default  Posted: 8:06 PM, May 17th (Friday)

Well it certainly does smell like something crawled up there and died so it could be the ghost coming out.


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Default  Posted: 9:36 PM, May 17th (Friday)

I believe. I''ve had too many instances to not believe.

The most memorial was when I was about 11. My BF and I would play a lot together at her house. Her grandfather lived with them he was a very elderly man, quite frail, but just THE most lovely man you ever met. I truly adored him and he seemed to consider me one of his grandkids. We had this game we would play. His favorate seat was a sort of stationary rocker it didn''t rock per se, but it went back and forth. When I would come over and if he wasn''t in it, we would "race" to see who got to sit in the chair first. Of course, once I "beat" him to it, I would get up and give it to him my Great-grandmother beat manners into me at an early age, but it was "our" game. This is the time to mention that I would come and go from their house in a pretty casual manner knock on the door and then go in.

One night I came to the house, knocked, came in, saw the rocker with no one in it and immediately ran over and sat down. And immediately shot up because I felt like I had sat on someone''s lap. I looked at the rocker, sat down, and shot up again. My BF and her mother came into the room they had been crying. They saw me looking at and running my fingers over the rocker and asked if anything was wrong. I said, well, I sat down, but it felt like I was sitting on someone, but no one is here. Tears started streaming down their eyes again my BF sobbed. Her mother told me that her father (the Grandfather) had passed away that day. I was so shocked that I just walked out the front door.

I know that I sat in his lap that night. I know that he made sure that I felt him, so that he could say good by. And there is nothing that anyone can say that will make me feel otherwise.


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Default  Posted: 11:03 PM, May 17th (Friday)

Yes-- my family members and I have had too many unexplained experiences for me to completely discount them. While I have never actually seen anything, I have felt presences strongly and smelled certain scents that, for where I was at the time, were completely inexplicable (a specific perfume is one in particular). Fortunately, all but one experience that I can think of were positive-- I like to think that there are some great people watching over me and the kiddies.


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Default  Posted: 11:08 PM, May 17th (Friday)

Well it certainly does smell like something crawled up there and died so it could be the ghost coming out.

Those are demons that must be exorcised.


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Default  Posted: 11:09 PM, May 17th (Friday)

when I walk into the bedroom and it smells like rotten eggs, WH "swears" it wasn't him. Must be a ghost.
Or a natural gas leak. Seriously - get that checked.

I think there are things in the universe we can't begin to understand. I have no way to disprove or prove the existence of spirits, so I remain open to the possibilities.

The experiences that have been described to me by friends and family members are utterly fascinating. And, on some level, tremendously comforting.


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Default  Posted: 12:28 AM, May 18th (Saturday)

Count me in. I've also experienced enough to totally believe.

I had two visits by a friend who told me details about his death that were later told to me to be what actually happened and then came back to say a final goodbye and tell me he was okay.

And I was told by a psychic that there is someone who is in spirit who is watching over me.


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Default  Posted: 3:18 AM, May 18th (Saturday)

I believe. The house I grew up in just had too much crap happening to be explained. My mom would be cooking and she would yelp and grab a spot on her thigh or butt and as we watched a black and blue mark would appear. She swore it felt like someone was pinching her. We'd see the shadow of a man walk by and one day she announced he had to stop touching her or get out. She never got pinched again but we'd still see his shadow. She also got held down in bed one morning. She said it felt like someone was choking her and my dog wouldn't go into the bedroom.

I had a handball that fell off the table all the time so I surrounded it with books. One night I was studying and heard the ball bouncing. The books were in the same place but the ball was on the floor bouncing.

The day my grandfather died I had a dream where he hugged me and kissed me and told me to be good for my mom and that he will always love me. I woke up and the bed was warm where he'd been sitting in my dream. A few seconds later I heard a yell and going into the kitchen my mom told me that we had to pack and get to the airport because mu grandfather had just died a few minutes ago.

There are others but those are the short ones.


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Default  Posted: 6:12 AM, May 18th (Saturday)

Jrazz,

I owe Authenticnow the full story but I don't have the time to type it all out here.

You can't just leave us with that cliffhanger! Inquiring minds want to know.


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Wink  Posted: 7:16 AM, May 18th (Saturday)

I believe...
The year H and I got married, we had to put my dog down. A couple months later, running down the hall, was "my dog." I jumped and kind of flipped out. I gathered myself back up and accepted it. She loved to run down that hall!
Another time, was shortly after my dad passed away, 2 years ago. I was at home, on the couch. I got this feeling I wasn't alone. H was at work and my daughter was napping. I looked down the hall, no daughter. She was still asleep. I looked over toward the computer area, and in the chair was a dark shadow. Dad was always at the computer at home when he was alive. So I took it as my dad coming to check up on me (us).


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Default  Posted: 11:01 AM, May 18th (Saturday)

Absolutely. Too many stories to tell, but...absolutely. The easiest to tell? I know the exact time of my father's death because I felt him pass through me and I looked at the clock when it happened.

I didn't know until the death certificate came that I was off by 1 minute. I just knew he died between 1am and 7am. My Mom called me at 1 am and said he was in cardiac arrest and a helicopter was being called, and she slammed the phone down. The next phone call was at 7am with my BIL saying he didn't make it. At 3:36am I felt my Dad pass through my body...but didn't tell anyone. When the death certificate came, time of death was 3:35, he arrested on the helicopter, so I know it is accurate.

My 9 year old dd told me that he visits her in her dreams.

I have many more stories...I just think some people are more in tune to spirits than others.


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Default  Posted: 11:13 AM, May 18th (Saturday)

My grandfather died suddenly about 10 years ago. He was known to enjoy a drink or two and, the night he died, he was drinking Pepsi out of a bottle. My mother jokingly asked him whether he had spiked it or not. He said that he hadn't.

After he died, my grandmother, my mom and I were sitting in the livingroom, talking about him. My mother mentioned asking about him about his drink earlier in the evening and we laughed that he had probably been fibbing. At that exact second, the cap to a water bottle flew off the bottle and landed on the floor on the opposite side of the kitchen. We're sure that was Grampy saying "No! I was telling the truth!"

A number of years later, I was at a pub with a couple of friends of mine. We were being goofs and a friend of mine took a picture of me. Behind me, there was a misty figure, in the general shape of a human. The edges of the mist are see-though but the core is not. This pub was non-smoking and there was no one behind me. The pub is located in an area of town know to be haunted, so after the initial shock of seeing the picture, we weren't surprised.


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Default  Posted: 4:31 PM, May 18th (Saturday)

First of all, Skan, that's the most lovely story I've heard in a very long time. I have NO doubt that Grandpa did, indeed, sit and wait to say good-bye to you.

While I affectionately refer to them as my "ghosts," what I really believe in are spirits.

I have not always. My mind was changed after my brother, then mother, died.

My brother, in particular, has been very present at specific times---since his death.

I am sure many would insist there are rational reasons for the experiences my family and I have had. In most cases, I'd be among them. (I mean, I did, after all, choose to believe hundreds of "rational reasons" offered by Mr. Trac-Fone )

But there have been FAR too many things that have happened. Lots of electrical "tricks" (including a phone call from my brother AFTER his death---a call that was NOT recorded by the phone company and did not register on either of our phones via called ID--as well as all kinds of other electrical oddities....spirits tend to use the energy from electrical objects, and that has been the case here), rearrangement of photographs (or their removal from walls and placement elsewhere---when no one was in the house but I), the STRONG aroma of my brother ---not specifically cologne that reminds me of him, but HIM--and the feeling of a hand on my forehead when I am upset. (The latter always prompts me to check to see if it's my hair---and it's not. The reason I think it's my brother is that, when he was very, very ill, the ONE thing that comforted him was when I stroked his forehead. And I feel this when I need comforting.)

My mother's around, but less often.

Both are quite comforting, and I realize that most would write off their presence to this, precisely. That it's comforting for me to THINK they're around.

But there have been some hard to explain things. Like the sound of music coming, late at night, from our basement family room---where my brother's (excellent) stereo and (excellent) music collection "live." Like, music so loud I've been awakened, and gone to tell my son to knock it off----only to find said son asleep in bed, and NO ONE in the basement.....but find records out of their jackets, different albums on the turntable than were there previously, etc.)

Both of my kids have sensed him. I do not tend to see him--just feel and smell (though I catch glimpses---which I completely concede may be my imagination). Both of my kids and Mr. Trac-fone have seen him.

In most regards, I am VERY science-minded. Before I believe things, I look for the peer-reviewed scientific research.

But this? I've had FAR too many experiences in the past 15 years that just can't be explained in any scientific way.

(If you weren't a skeptic, I'd share my experiences with the intuitive healer that these experiences----among other, more mundane life experiences---spurred....)

ETA: My oldest (25) has had more experiences than I. When in school, she had one apartment in a building that did many short-term leases to patients at the Texas Medical Center; she was regularly visited by a young woman who appeared to still think she was still a patient. Not scary, but unsettling at first.

And she had VERY NEGATIVE experiences after she was given a Ouija board as a preteen/young teen. She and her friends, of course, got the sillies playing with it. But it invited something NOT beneficent in. She asked her (by then deceased) uncle to protect her--and prayed---and that entity did not return.

But both of us do get the heeby-jeebies in certain places where there's negative spirit activity. The most stunning example is the old prison in Joliet, IL (now partly a museum--one I would never visit)----our hair literally stands on end when we drive past. Not good spiritual stuff there, at all.

[This message edited by solus sto at 5:18 PM, May 18th (Saturday)]


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Default  Posted: 6:49 PM, May 18th (Saturday)

Damn Solus, that's a hell of a story!

(If you weren't a skeptic, I'd share my experiences with the intuitive healer that these experiences----among other, more mundane life experiences---spurred....)

Feel free to share - just because I'm a skeptic doesn't mean that I don't have an open mind! I really do enjoy the experiences shared so far - they won't convince me one way or the other, as I'm not trying to get anyone to change my mind or vice versa. Hell, in some ways I'm a little jealous, it would be nice to believe . The worst part about not being a believer is there is no ones name to scream when you are having an orgasm


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The house I grew up in was haunted when my mom and dad moved in to it.

It was a converted two family house with us living on the 2nd floor.

When they first moved in some did live downstairs but they moved out and after they moved out my mom would still hear movement downstairs and hear and smell someone cooking eggs and frying bacon.

Plus our dog, well after my dad died would do the perking of the ears and follow something from one side of the room to another and sometime he would growl at whatever he was tracking.


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Default  Posted: 7:56 PM, May 18th (Saturday)

I'll share another although its not my story but my aunt's. It made my hair stand up on end when I heard it and still creeps me out. Bear with me its long.

My aunt got her own apartment with her cousin Ellie when she was in her early 20's. The night they moved in their friend Lucy (I grew up with her as another aunt) came to help and sleep over. They were laughing and joking while cooking and got hot so tried to open the window but it was sealed with paint and even with all 3 of them pushing they couldn't move it. They said all of a sudden there was a knock on the door. They looked through the peephole and no one was there. They turned to walk away and heard footsteps, looked through the peephole again and still nothing. They went back to cook. As they were eating they heard footsteps and banging from the apartment above them. It was a remodeled building with all new tenants. They took a broom and knocked on the ceiling to make them quiet down. The noise stopped and they heard footsteps come down the stairs and again a knock on the door. Ellie got mad and grabbed the door open. Nobody was there. She freaked out and bolted the door closed. They were all a little freaked out and called the landlord saying the neighbors were being assholes. The landlord said impossible they were the first tenants and no one else was moving in for a couple days. They were completely freaked out by then and decided they'd go to bed. They got up and heard a grinding noise in the kitchen. They went to check and the window they couldn't open was now open one inch.

They decided to stay and go to sleep thinking all of it was weird and creepy but they were not hurt. Despite this they were scared and all slept in the same bed. A couple hours late they heard Lucy moaning. They shook her and both my aunt and Ellie said when she turned Lucy looked like an old woman and tried to lunge at them. They pushed her and she hit the floor. When she got up she looked like Lucy again and told them they had to get out now. They ran to the door and unlocked it but the door wouldn't budge. They heard the grinding noise again in the kitchen and freaked out yelling and screaming. My aunt called her boyfriend who lived down the block and he came and easily opened the door. They were all still screaming but James said he hadn't heard anything until the door opened. They moved out the next morning.

No one ever lived there more then a few days and eventually the building was slated for demolition and was still an empty lot by the time I was an adult. They were told that when the remodeling had been going on they found a room with symbols, chicken feathers, blood and other things. All of it spoke of bad things. My aunt doesn't like remembering it and it still creeps me out to think of.


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Default  Posted: 8:17 PM, May 18th (Saturday)

i come from a family of off-beat weirdos. as such, i've had two or three creepy experiences. I've only got time to write one. Maybe I'll write the other's later.


Several years ago I was a graduate student. I was studying online at the time, meaning I was not in the same state as the university. It was just after or just before Christmas that I was viewing the tapes.

Anyway, I had a dream in which a young woman appeared in my bedroom. Just like in the movies, the room was cold. My hair was standing on end. She kind of hovered a couple of feet above the floor. She told me, "tell my father it's ok. everything is fine." She repeated this a couple of times until i hid my head under the covers. (i know, pretty manly)

A few weeks later I visited my advisor at the university. At that time I found out that one of my other professor's had a child that had died in a horrible car accident during Christmas break. (This was when I had the dream.) I looked at the picture in the paper. It was the girl in my dreams.

I never told her father because I thought it would hurt him. After all, he was a scientist. How could he reconcile this nonsense?

Not sure if I did the right thing.


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Default  Posted: 10:02 PM, May 18th (Saturday)

no, but I believe in hypnopompic hallucinations

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I believe in spirits (good and bad). We lived in the family farm house until I was seven. When I was about five, my brothers and I along with my mom were in the house one day. My mom heard my parents water bed slooshing around and hollered at us kids to stop jumping on the bed. Problem was, she walked into their room and saw no children....but saw the waterbed moving.

There were numerous other things that happened, but the final straw was when my mom saw a full shadowed figure of a person walking toward her in broad daylight. She told my G-Ma that the old things in the attic (old hair from first haircuts, etc) had to go as spirits can 'attach' themselves to items/objects. Once they moved that all out of the house, all the stuff stopped happening.

In another house we rented, we'd hear a rocking chair in the attic creaking....when no one was up there. The next tenants called my parents and asked if we had heard it too.


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Default  Posted: 10:49 PM, May 18th (Saturday)

If not, why not?

I suppose in the simplest of terms, because there is always a rational explanation and when there isn't a rational explanation it's because everyone stopped looking for one and settled on "because magic" - which is profoundly unsatisfying when actually applied to real world events.


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because there is always a rational explanation and when there isn't a rational explanation it's because everyone stopped looking for one and settled on "because magic"

That scared every one away SG - good job mate There goes my hope of making a four page thread without "blow job" in the title.


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Default  Posted: 8:01 PM, May 19th (Sunday)

Well, I'm nor skeered away by SG.

My grandmother died when I was 9. About a month after she died, she came in my bedroom, smiled and placed her hand to my face. I couldn't feel it physically but I knew she was there.

When I was 12, I went to a Methodist Camp Meeting that lasted 2 weeks. There was a tabernacle for the church services and I went there alone one afternoon. A man in a long white robe/gown kind of thing walked up and called me by name. He said that I was going to be a gospel singer and touch people with my music. I left there feeling excited and thinking I was going to make records and get famous. I thought my life (which was full of craziness and abuse and chaos) was going to get better. When none of that happened, I decided I had hallucinated the whole thing.

But it's funny... I am now the worship leader in my church. And for the past 4 years, I have sung with a group that travels, sharing testimonies and music. Every Sunday evening from June to September, I would sing tell my story and watch people respond. So maybe it's a coincidence. Or maybe I fulfilled it because it was spoken to me. Or maybe that man was sent to give me hope that someday my pain would be used for good.

Who knows? But I know what I believe.


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Default  Posted: 8:04 PM, May 19th (Sunday)

Well no, I've never settled on just magic for anything that's happened to me. I just honestly believe in spirits but don't use them as an explanation for every strange thing.


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Default  Posted: 9:51 PM, May 19th (Sunday)

Im back trying to help get to page 4. :))

Seriously not all weird things in my life are thought to be ghosts sometimes life is just weird

But there are undeniable situations. I know I saw Jenny and the dog (same apt but not related).

When I was 16 a woman called my name. I was in a bad way at the time and just calling my name helped.

I even saw man jog walk across post road in ct. I saw him clearly but not as clear as I see my sofa. He knew I was driving a car. He was dressed in a suit of the early decades of the 1900 (possibly 1930ish) sans the jacket . The cemetary was the direction he was heading. Another cwmetary was on the opposite side of the road around the corner. This was very late at night.


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Default  Posted: 7:43 AM, May 20th (Monday)

To defend my own position, first let me say I do believe that people experience these things. In fact I think these experiences are normal.

My comment "because magic" is just a summary way of saying that I do not feel placing something into a category of inexplicable is satisfying or personally acceptable. If a thing is not immediately explicable, that does not make it inexplicable. If a thing is beyond current means of explanation that does not make it supernatural by default, either, IMO. The celestial bodies overhead are not gods, but they're no less amazing for that. The greek deities could be viewed as majestic and terrible, or like a bunch of too powerful children that didn't like it when people exhibited virtues and tantrumed all over that; majesty and the mundane are a matter of perspective. A star is a 'miasma of superheated plasma' - and it could be "just" that, or it could be viewed as the thing from which we're all made. Yes, we come from star stuff. Is cool.

Also, Clarke's third law is great: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." Harry Potter might shoot fireballs from his wand, but it's given an awe it really doesn't merit compared to Naval railguns that can fire tungsten armor piercing bullets at a kinetic energy of 9 megajoules - that's 2.5E-6 Gigawatt hours, which is twice the power required to spin up a flux capacitor to go back in time. Only part of that statement is fictional and not really how it works but it was fun to play with that.

I also think "because magic" because if something has an influence on the natural world, it is by logical extension a part of that natural world and therefore as magical as stars and rainbows. Which means if ever ghosts are trapped in bottles and studied, I think they'll be far less interesting to many people.

I think it's fine for people to categorize things this way until it interferes with real life. People who listen to a psychic without ever getting a home inspection run the risk of poisoning their entire family. Folks who try homeopathic remedies because medical science can be scary and not have all the answers run the risk of making things worse. Stuff like that.

I don't think it will ever change but that is why I do not believe in ghosts and think magic is a lovely way to look at the world without understanding how the illusion works. My son still doesn't know how I the card he picked at random from the deck of cards he shuffled himself and placed back into the deck he himself reshuffled - and I never once touched - wound up in my pocket, and the mechanisms behind that very simple trick are even deeper and more complex than any arcane formula could provide.

That is where I am at and why I am there with the "because magic" statement.


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Default  Posted: 1:56 PM, May 20th (Monday)

Tred, don't worry, we'll get you to a 4 page thread in no time.

SG wouldn't scare me away

HFSSC, that is a great story.

Sully, what part of CT is that?

I also don't believe in saying that everything "unexplained" is supernatural. I've seen enough to believe. My mom and sister have seen enough to make me believe. I do try to rule-out any/every possibility before claiming supernatural.

Two more examples.

First - During the day I'm always home by myself. One day about two years ago I cleaned the entire condo. I put the kids placemats at their places at the table. I then went about my day. A few hours later I walked passed the table on my way to the basement and I stopped dead in my tracks and literally said "What the hell!" My son's chair was pulled out enough for a child to sit down (again he was at school and all the chairs were pushed in) and the placemats were placed on top of each other and moved closer to my end of the table. There is no way that those objects could be moved by a breeze and I know exactly how I left them.

Second - I have an antique apple on a shelf next to my grandmothers picture. It always sits on the left and a few times it's been moved to the right. Again, I'm always home alone during the day.

Not sure if anyone wants to take a stab in the dark and guess as to how these things could be moved when I didn't do it.


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Default  Posted: 1:57 PM, May 20th (Monday)

Yep, I do.

In fact, I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one "living" in my 100 year old house.

Before I moved in, I caught a glimpse of someone standing behind me when there was no one else on the same level of the house.

My DD's, sitting in the living room, heard footsteps upstairs when there was no one else in the house.

I've heard, what sounds like, children running up the stairs late at night.

I've found the front door unlocked in the morning when I know I locked it the night before.

Doing dishes one night, the dining room light turned off. I thought the light blew and found it turned off at the switch.


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Before I moved in, I caught a glimpse of someone standing behind me when there was no one else on the same level of the house.

That would freak me out.


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Default  Posted: 2:28 PM, May 20th (Monday)

Since you asked..

Quoting both but answering the second first.

First - During the day I'm always home by myself. One day about two years ago I cleaned the entire condo. I put the kids placemats at their places at the table. I then went about my day. A few hours later I walked passed the table on my way to the basement and I stopped dead in my tracks and literally said "What the hell!" My son's chair was pulled out enough for a child to sit down (again he was at school and all the chairs were pushed in) and the placemats were placed on top of each other and moved closer to my end of the table. There is no way that those objects could be moved by a breeze and I know exactly how I left them.


Second - I have an antique apple on a shelf next to my grandmothers picture. It always sits on the left and a few times it's been moved to the right. Again, I'm always home alone during the day.

This one is pretty normal. Since it's an object you are very familiar with, and it tends to occupy a specific place, it's likely your brain sees the apple, sees the mantle and constructs the image as the apple being where you expect it to be until you turn enough of your attention on it to notice it is out of place.

When we see things, we are not taking actual snapshots - we get limited sensory input and our brains construct the rest. It's a useful survival skill since actually seeing a threat vs. inferring it from familiar patterns takes a lot more brain processing, but it also means there's a lot of room for perceptual error.

This is also why someone can swear up, down, left and right that "Officer the light was green!" then be utterly dumbfounded at a camera showing them running a red - if it's a light they frequently go through that has a long green cycle, the brain just fills it in.. you may even see it as red but not acknowledge it as such and fire off processes that say its green.

This isn't something that happens so often that people are crashing into each other because of it every day, especially since there is enough variable stimuli that your brain is constantly reprocessing the surrounding environment, but it happens often enough that you can be reliably duped by professional magicians because of it. It's kind of awesome actually.

To go back to the first example, it's entirely likely you laid out the placemats yourself and just didn't have your attention focused on it as you moved through the day. This happens so much when people drive I think it has its own urban dictionary entry under an auto pilot reference.

These things actually happen a lot more often than people take note of. It's only when something is unusual enough to notice is when we stop and look at it.

Not saying this is exactly what happened - there could be any number of outlandish or more mundane reasons - but it is a rational explanation that is very common as a perceptual error.

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Just for fun - what is wrong with this picture?
You mean other than the fact is isn't loading?


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Default  Posted: 2:37 PM, May 20th (Monday)

Before I moved in, I caught a glimpse of someone standing behind me when there was no one else on the same level of the house.

I remember reading the Amityville Horror when I was young - not sure if I had this experience if I would of bought the house! But then again, I probably would have and used the story to scare the shit out of people who visited. I'm certain that SandAway wouldn't of let us buy it though - she gets spooked easily (she's always watching ghost shows on TV, go figure).

PhoenixRivers - I had to look up hypnopompic hallucinations, and it looks like it only occurs entering and exiting sleep. Some of these stories obviously don't fit that.

SD sounds like she is living with a poltergeist - maybe your place is built on a relocated cemetery!


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Default  Posted: 2:52 PM, May 20th (Monday)

My aunt and uncle had three kids- two girls and a boy and they bought this land with a barn out in FL. They moved a trailer on it and they live in this mobile home. Well the little boy was about 3 and he loved to go to the barn with his mom and I think they bred puppies and stuff so they would be out there a lot. Well my little cousin told my aunt he wanted to be a fireman like John. She kept asknig WHO is John and he said that the fireman named John played with him in the barn and they were best friends.

Well several months later, my couins were all riding with their grandmother and she ran a stop sign. My little 3 year old boy cousin was killed there on site.

After he died and my aunt and uncle picked themselves up and got on with life they found out, after someone told them, that the land and barn (and one time a long time ago a house) was owned by a very old man named John - who was a retired fireman and had died ... and my family had actually picked up his land a few people down the line, but after he died. They had NO idea since they didn't buy it from his estate that John was real.

Now the family thinks he was there to ease my cousins passing.

Well about a month ago that lady who ran the stop sign? Well her husband died. He had real bad cancer. They were all gathered in the room and he sat up and said Look ____ is here! and it was my little cousin's name. My aunt just cried and cried and she confessed she had seen her little boy the Friday before. She said he had gone into the kitchen and was walking back into the sick room and she saw him dart around the corner like he was playing hide and seek. She just ... didn't want everyone to think she was cracking up under the weight of caring for her father in law.

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Sorry nik. Pixel pixies pinched the painting.


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Default  Posted: 3:20 PM, May 20th (Monday)

SG,

Is that a picture of a ghost ?

I think that was a pretty good explanation of people being on autopilot. We get tons of ghosts that move my wife's keys and drinks all the time!


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Default  Posted: 3:39 PM, May 20th (Monday)

My office is in a hisotric home. It has long been said the house is haunted by the founder of our town, and who lived and died in this house. I have certainly had weird feelings when working there alone, and have heard odd things. BUT. do I believe? Not really. I think it is just random sounds and my mind "goes there" to explain. Usually when that happens I decide it is time to go home, so I'm ok with the connection!


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Default  Posted: 3:59 PM, May 20th (Monday)

I will tell you that I have personally had experiences, but I am still not convinced I believe.

Once years ago, my husband and I went to a friend's house. They had remodeled their basement and built a bar with a pool table, big TV, etc. Hubby went downstairs while I visited in the kitchen with friend's wife. She told me where the remote was downstairs so hubby could turn on the TV - I went to the top of the stairs to holler to him. I saw a figure which I assumed was him cross the bottom of the stairs (heading from the bar on the left of the stairs toward the TV/sitting area on the right)... but when I yelled to him, his head popped around the corner from the BAR SIDE. He was the only one down there, and he swore he had not walked over to the TV. I mentioned this to my friend, and she said "Oh, it's probably our ghost." She had experiences with it, too.

While I can still explain that one away in my head, I can't explain the experience my daughter had. My daughter had just turned 4 when my grandmother passed away. I loved my grandmother so dearly and she was very important in my life. However, she had been ill for a few years before she died, and lived nearly 2 hours from us, so we didn't see her very often. My daughter knew her from pictures, but really knew very little about her.

One morning - a year to the date that my grandmother had passed away - my daugher woke, telling me Grandma had visited her the night before. I said "Oh, you dreamed of her?" She said "No mom. She came in my room and sat on my bed and held my hand." I asked if grandma said anything, and daughter replied "She said 'I love you, dolly." My grandma called me Dolly! My daughter would not and could not have known that. A few weeks later, my daugher said grandma had visited again. I asked what she said this time, and daughter said grandma told her happy new year (it was new year's day). I asked what she said to grandma, and she said "I told her thanks and happy birthday." I asked why she wished her happy birthday, and daughter rolled her eyes and said "Because she TOLD me it was her birthday, duh!"

Yep. Grandma's birthday was New Year's Eve. Again, daughter would not have known that. We hadn't had any celebrations of grandma's birthday when daughter was alive due to grandma's distance and health.

To this day, I think my daughter and grandma had a special connection because daughter was baptized in grandma's baptizimal gown from 1915. I am so glad grandma came to visit. This one, I WANT to believe!


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Default  Posted: 5:32 PM, May 20th (Monday)

I do believe absolutely. Many of the oldies around here might remember Lucky~daughter trying to remove a ghost/spirit from one of her homes.
She's had many haunted homes, mainly from living on military bases, I think.
And yes, I've seen them too.


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Default  Posted: 6:18 PM, May 20th (Monday)

SD...Greenwich, CT. Near Mahre Ave. There are two cemetaries sort of across from eacb other

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Default  Posted: 7:18 PM, May 20th (Monday)

This one, I WANT to believe!

That's a cool story - I'd want to believe that to. There's probably some ironic law of physic that states you can only see ghosts if you believe in ghosts . If you don't believe in them, your mind will insert a rational answer...


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Default  Posted: 8:46 PM, May 20th (Monday)

Tred I remember reading Amityville Horror and it freaked me out. I asked my mom if we could drive to Long Island so I could see 112 Ocean Ave.


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Default  Posted: 10:53 PM, May 20th (Monday)

I don't. The house I grew up in was on or near where two bodies some serial killer dumped back in the '60s were found. There was (and still is) the shell of an old, burnt out house next door. Never saw anything out of the ordinary.

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Default  Posted: 11:48 PM, May 20th (Monday)

I believe, maybe because I need to, I dunno.

My sister was killed in a car accident at 17. She was driving, her boyfriend was passenger. She was killed instantly, he was found alive and admitted to the hospital.

Three days after she passed I saw her. She was sitting on an old rock wall facing me, crying. She said she was alone and didn't want to go. She couldn't find anyone and was afraid.

I told her to look for Bampi (our grandfather). I said he was with her and she had to find him. I watched her turn around I could see my grandfather in the far distance watching her but in front of my grandfather was her boyfriend. She turned back to me and said "he's here" smiled and waved to me.

About 15 minutes later the phone rang. Her boyfriend passed.

Some things just can't be explained and sometimes those things give us peace.

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Default  Posted: 12:18 AM, May 21st (Tuesday)

Yes, we very much believed we had a ghost in our home when I was growing up, it was a very old home, and our spirit was quite benign. Catching glimpses out of the corner of my eye of movement, or at the end of the hall, or downstairs when passing the living room. We were convinced it lived my toy music box that broke, it would play randomly when no one was anywhere near it.

I can see that the music box just had a glitch. We put it in the attic, why didn't we just throw it away? I guess I had toys up there that didn't fit anywhere else.

My brother and I put a handkerchief and a pencil on top of the music box. We checked it the next day, the handkerchief was sticking out from under my doll house and the pencil was gone. Maybe my brother was tricking me, I was a kid, gullible, but he seemed scared, too, and to this day, denies he did anything to mess with me.

I used to love the sound track to St. Elmo's fire. I would play it over and over as a kid. During one song, I heard a voice, I don't know what it said, it scared the shit out of me though. I remember getting very sick afterwards. It was a long time before I could listen to that tape again, when I did, it was normal, no voice heard, but I got very sick again. I threw the damn tape away. Maybe just a coincidence, but I'm never going to listen to that sound track again.

I had a friend die in terrible car crash, it caught fire. The thought of his suffering plagued me for weeks after his death. I had a dream I was on a playground and could hear kids playing around me. It was so sunny I could barely see, had to squint my eyes. And my friend came up to me, I knew it was him, it was his voice, I just couldn't see him, the sun in my eyes. I hugged him and said I thought I'd never see you again. He laughed and told me he was ok. I knew he wasn't suffering and was no longer plagued by those sad thoughts. Not really a ghost story, but it is real.

We moved to a new home a few years ago and the hot water heater was in the attic space above our room. It made some awful banging noises that sounded like someone was up there. It just had a lot of gunk in it and when we flushed it out it went silent. Unfortunately, that attic space is reached through a door in my daughter's closet. And whenever I open her closet door, the attic door pops open and scares the shit out of me every time, and it's always when I'm home alone. I mean, I'm sure it's just air pressure, warm air in the attic, cold air from the A/c...logical, of course, I'm a friggin adult, I'm not scared...no, I am.

Lastly, my friend works in a nursing home, and nursing homes see a lot of death. She talks about her shufflers and breathers or whiffs of perfume or hearing talking, thinking a resident is awake or has the TV on, only to find out the halls are empty, and people are sleeping...or the room is empty. You are all making me give myself goosebumps.


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Default  Posted: 12:04 PM, May 21st (Tuesday)

Oh, also I work in a haunted building.

It is a very old building, built in the early 1800's and is on the historic register.

There have been stories for years. I have been in this building and been chased out. Ok, not literally chased but I've heard things that made me leave in a hurry.

A few years ago, we had an outside vendor installing a new phone system. There were about 6 of us, in total, and we needed to do it after hours.

I don't make it a habit of telling random people about the building, in fact I usually don't even think about it. So I never said anything to these people.

Sometime around 8PM, I was on another floor with some of them and two others were on the 4th floor, where my office happens to be.

The two of them came downstairs to us very quickly and looked a little freaked out. One of them looked at me and asked, "Ok, what's up with this building?"

I had no idea what he was talking about and when I asked he said, "This place is haunted, isn't it?"

Apparently, he had walked around a corner and seen a shadow, figure....something that shouldn't have been there. He was so flustered, he couldn't really describe it.

Then there was the Victorian lady who slapped one of my co-workers. Two others had seen a woman, dressed in dark Victorian clothing walk into a coworker's office.

Within a few seconds the coworker, who never saw the women, was slapped across the face. Left a hand print and all.


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Default  Posted: 1:22 PM, May 21st (Tuesday)

Yes I do believe in ghosts. My mom always talked about ghosts in her house and we always chalked it up as too much to drink But I actually experienced the ghost one night when I stayed with her. I was frozen with fear. It started as a light shining through the bedroom window, it was a bright white round shaped light. It hovered outside the window, then came through it, slowly up to the head of the bed and hovered by my head for what seemed like an eternity, then it flew on up the hall and was gone. Needless to say I did not sleep another wink that night. It also had a humming noise to it. It was not like a light shining thru the window but rather just hanging right out side the window, so bright it woke me up.

I mentioned it to my mom the next morning and she said TOLD y'all I was not crazy and something was in here.

I also heard my mom call my name right at the time she passed away. She was in another state, but it was as if she was in my room and I sat straight up in bed. I have felt someone sit on the side of my bed then get up and leave. Not sure if those were ghosts or guardian angels

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Default  Posted: 1:31 PM, May 21st (Tuesday)

"Officer the light was green!"

SG, this is usually the driver trying to get out of a huge ticket.

I see what you're saying, but I know what I saw and I know where I placed these objects. There's no they could've been moved. I would understand if I was rushing about and slid the placements and didn't pay attention to where they landed, thought they were in the right spot and forgot, but that wasn't the case.


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Default  Posted: 12:59 PM, May 22nd (Wednesday)

sd, I can't make you believe what I said any more than you can make me believe it was ghosts. I put stock in my suggestion because it's been demonstrated over and over again, not just by anecdotal observation but with a lot of experiments. Memory is not nearly as reliable as people think it is, but we're all biased to feel it is - I mean I do too, even knowing how unreliable it is. There are some very amusing experiments done with change blindness. They range from very obvious to very subtle. One of the more obvious funny ones:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ahg6qcgoay4

So not telling you that's what really happened. Providing the alternative explanation you asked for.


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Default  Posted: 1:29 PM, May 22nd (Wednesday)

SG, I know and I wouldn't expect to try to convince you otherwise, either. We both have our belief system and that's ok. It's what makes us who we are.

I completely understood what you were saying. I apologize if my response came across as rude or that your explanation was wrong. That was no my intention. I asked for another opinion and you gave me one. I appreciate it, as well as your time it took explaining it.


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Default  Posted: 1:31 PM, May 22nd (Wednesday)

No, you weren't rude. I thought I was just being an inarticulate moron and was struggling to find a way to say that without appearing to be a condescending prick.


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Default  Posted: 1:39 PM, May 22nd (Wednesday)

I've appreciated the time everyone has taken to relate their stories - there have been some very interesting ones so far! I didn't start this thread to disprove (or prove) anything, I just find the topic interesting. The last thing I would want is to see someone not want to relate a personal experience because some "condescending prick" minimized and dismissed them. Nor would I have wanted to see a rational scientific explanation dismissed out of hand because it doesn't fit someone's experience. I think it's been informative and interesting to say the least! Hell, just because I personally have never seen a ghost (or had a paranormal experience) doesn't mean that I wouldn't want to - I think it would be cool (so far I think most of the experiences have been benevolent). And I enjoy a good ghost story as much as anyone.


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Default  Posted: 1:42 PM, May 22nd (Wednesday)

I thought I was just being an inarticulate moron and was struggling to find a way to say that without appearing to be a condescending prick.

I didn't get any of this out your post


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