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hitbyatruck
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Default  Posted: 9:30 PM, May 22nd (Wednesday)

My son is in the 4th grade. I usually go on all field trip with both of my kids, only missed a few over the years. If I didn't get picked to go on the trip I would just drive myself out and pay admission to wherever the class was going. This has never been an issue. As an 'unofficial chaperone' you simply weren't in charge of a group but still helped.

With all the crazy events of the world the school now requires anyone who has interaction with the kids have FBI/State clearances...not a problem, got'em.

The 4th grade never asked for fieldtrip parents so I figured I would just drive out like any other year. My H and I met with the principal the day before to make sure this was ok. The principal stated that he could not stop me from paying admission at a public place but I was not to be in charge of kids. NO PROBLEM. I told the principal that I wasn't comfortable with the 1 to 13 adult/child ratio. He understood.

I get there and I am rudely told by one teacher that I wasn't permitted to be with any of the kids including my own son even though the school has a copy of my clearances. I informed the teacher that I had a meeting with the principal yesterday and he is fully aware that I am on the trip. She tells me that the principal said he has no recollection of said meeting. I call the principal, he remembers the meeting but now tells me that I am to keep my distance from the children including my own son.

I am a frequent flyer at the school, this makes no sense to me at all. At least my child's homeroom teacher stuck up for me and said the situation was getting out of hand. I did manage to enjoy the day with my son but was under the close eye of the rude teacher.

I told the teacher that I refused to be rude to a child that asked me to hold their bag or take their picture... But if they needed to go anywhere away from the group I would kindly tell them to ask another adult.

I got a call when I got home from the trip from one of teachers asking me for every detail of my meeting with the principal and the comments from the rude teacher.

THe teacher that called me explained how the school is trying so hard to be secure and all the wrinkles aren't out of the system yet.

What a day!


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little turtle
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Default  Posted: 7:16 AM, May 23rd (Thursday)

That's a bit extreme. I tagged along on a field trip to the zoo earlier this week. There were no problems. I had to get a background check when I went on a previous field trip as a chaperone, but it wasn't required to tag along.


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idiot85
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Default  Posted: 8:50 AM, May 23rd (Thursday)

Sometimes schools are ridiculous! We have the exact same issues sometimes with the nursery (they're pre-school).

I'm sure you're not going to hurt your child (or any others!) but, by their standards, even if you were- you probably won't wait for a school trip!!

Our kids Nativity Play- only family of kids allowed- fair enough, no pictures or videos to be taken of children (safety reasons) harsh but, fair enough I suppose. 7 for DVD of Nativity Play- WTF??!!

Oh the other thing that gripes me- I care so much for my kids, if anyone hurt them I would kill them of course- I'm a normal human being, a normal Daddy. Teachers are not allowed to 'touch' children- no contact, completely NO contact. So, why take them swimming- 3 year old boy trying to get underpants up not very dry body- ridiculous. On swimming day all the kids come out of nursery like badly dressed wet dogs- girls in freezing cold with poorly dried hair rolled tights, boys with inside out tshirts or barely buttoned shirts. Nearly forgot the obligatory, shoes on wrong feet and trousers not buttoned. My son once came out with an inside out jumper over the top of a not buttoned at all shirt (he couldn't do the little buttons)- I was fuming!

OK rant over!!

[This message edited by idiot85 at 8:53 AM, May 23rd (Thursday)]


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Posts: 575 | Registered: Apr 2013 | From: Old Blighty
simplydevastated
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Default  Posted: 9:03 AM, May 23rd (Thursday)

That is extreme. I'm sorry they were rude to you, that was uncalled for.

There seems to be very little communication in schools these days, plus many schools have adopted a "zero-tolerance" policy that I think pushes out commonsense thinking. I remember one girl in the news was suspended for distributing drugs - translation, she gave her friend a Midol because her friend couldn't handle the painful cramps any longer. Another little boy (this was yrs ago, but local) was suspended for bringing a gun to school, the gun was a zipper pull that his police office father gave him.

I understand and appreciate that faculty and administration are doing what they can to keep our children safe while in school, however, the I think it's gone too far.

So, why take them swimming- 3 year old boy trying to get underpants up not very dry body- ridiculous. On swimming day all the kids come out of nursery like badly dressed wet dogs- girls in freezing cold with poorly dried hair rolled tights, boys with inside out tshirts or barely buttoned shirts. Nearly forgot the obligatory, shoes on wrong feet and trousers not buttoned. My son once came out with an inside out jumper over the top of a not buttoned at all shirt (he couldn't do the little buttons)- I was fuming!

OMG! I don't blame you! That is absurd! I would have been fuming, too.

I love my daughters 1 st grade teacher. She's always hugging a student or patting them on the arm or something. She loves her job and she loves her students. My kids so far have all had teachers like that (with the exception of one teacher), they've all been very huggy and they treat the children like they are their own.

[This message edited by simplydevastated at 9:04 AM, May 23rd (Thursday)]


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Kalleigh
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Default  Posted: 9:19 AM, May 23rd (Thursday)

FBI/Sate Cleanences, WOW is all I can say. All we have to do is sign a slip saying that we are coming with or driving ourselves.


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idiot85
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Default  Posted: 9:21 AM, May 23rd (Thursday)

I don't blame (most) teachers- they get scared to death they'll be accused of something but, when I was a boy a highlight was that if you'd been particularly good and worked hard, at the end of the day when the teacher would play the piano and we'd have a sing song, the kid who was the most well behaved- the 'star of the day' could sit on her knee whilst she played piano- we all LOVED that.

That teacher is still there and she will sneakily hug a crying child or help with buttons- I feel sorry for her.

Teachers being rude- unacceptable btw. I wouldn't be rude to a teacher and I would expect the same courtesy.

Here they're called DBS checks 'Disclosure & Barring Service" and they cost from 26 to 44.

[This message edited by idiot85 at 9:24 AM, May 23rd (Thursday)]


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hitbyatruck
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Default  Posted: 11:13 AM, May 23rd (Thursday)

My clearances were only 10 dollars and I am very happy to follow the rules. BUT common sense was out the freakin window yesterday. I have had two more phone calls this morning about my trip yesterday. I think they were both just wanting the full scoop of what happened more than any help of some kind.

I am still floored about yesterday. The principal dropped the ball and the teacher was just plain rude hiding behind what she felt was school policy.

About the swim trips from above... I worked in a daycare for years. Swim trips scared the crap out of me. We were not to touch children BUT you are in a pool with small kids who weren't strong swimmers! We held them up in water but weren't permitted to help them button their clothes! Makes no sense at all.


Married 1998, 2 kids
D-day3/27/09,he left 5/23/09
WH wants to rebuild 3/21/10
He moved back in 9/25/10,
Dec, 2011-finally putting it all together, H had multiple affairs.
Possible porn addict for 15 yrs.
01/2014- in house separation

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