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Dreamboat
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Default  Posted: 10:42 PM, May 28th (Tuesday)

I will not sent this response, but this was my first response.


Dreamboat,

Hope you are well. With no job to be found and the inability to live with (Bitch SIL) or my parents, I have of course ended up in London. It turns out that this was a good thing because 7 days after DD’s 16 birthday, I had my second heart attack...they added 3 more stents to my right side. The doctor said that the left side also has issues but wants to see the results of the medication I am on along with a Thallium scan before he takes any further action.

I am not sure when I will be able to visit...job situation is just as bad or worse here. My parents along with cousins would like to spend some time with DD but they have a wedding to go to in Toronto, Canada in the middle of June...they will be free after the 25th of June (They will pick-up DD or meet you half way...they, nor I, want DD to drive on her own to Hometown). Let me know what you and her decide.

If DD is interested in visiting London, we will need to get her passport ready...let me know if I need to do anything for this. It would be lovely to spend a month or more with her and there are direct flights from Hartsfield to Heathrow.

Let me know what you decide,

Deadbeat

SHOCKER!! I am so dumb that I never figured out that you moved to the UK in 2010. Not. It took me about 1 month it figure it out. BTW, DD has known for a year. Here is a clue – keeping obvious secrets from your child is not a good way to build a good relationship with her.

I will ask DD if she wants to visit Hometown and I will respect her wishes. But I must tell you that her last visit did not go well because your sister repeatedly lied to DD telling she was bringing cousins home but then did not. DD spent a week, alone, with your parent waiting to see her cousins but then never did because of the actions of your sister. In addition, I really do not want to have to rescue her from Hometown YET AGAIN. The only reason I did not last time is that DD did not tell me the situation. The entire time I thought that not only you were there (you left earlier) but that cousins were there. DD knew I had to work so she never told me what was up. And then there was the time that you called me and told me that “this is not a good time for me to be a father” and “DD’s visit was inconvenient” to your family. Oh yeah, and the time that your sister threatened me with a harassment suit if I have called her again AND she had my child! Oh yes, the sweet memories. So yeah, if it is up to me DD will never visit Hometown again. But I will respect her wishes if she wants to go back to Crazy Town that you call “family”.

Regardless, DD has track and softball practice 5 days a week. In addition she had several books she must read for her AP classes and she also must study for her SAT and ACT. Since you have not paid any child support in over 4 years, the only way she can go to college is to get a full ride academic scholarship. However, she does not know you are a deadbeat and you are the reason I worry about money so much. You are welcome.

DD will not be visiting you and your whore and her spawn in London. I thought you knew DD hated your whore. Well, for future reference you should note that DD hates your whore and you need to keep that bitch away from her. I am completely serious about that.

I am sorry for your health. But what do you expect when you sit around and smoke cigarettes all day? I mean, didn’t your first heart attack kinda give you a fucking clue? Anyway, if you do die, make sure someone informs us. That way at least DD will get survivor’s social security. Oh wait, is that insensitive? Oops sorry. Yeah. Live long and prosper asshole.

[This message edited by Dreamboat at 11:25 PM, May 28th (Tuesday)]


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ButterflyGirl
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Default  Posted: 10:47 PM, May 28th (Tuesday)

I love a good vent

So sorry for what that asshat has put you and your DD through. FFFFTTTTTGGGGGG!!!!!


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Default  Posted: 10:48 PM, May 28th (Tuesday)

Love your response!


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gonnabe2016
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Default  Posted: 10:52 PM, May 28th (Tuesday)

That response is almost too good NOT to send....but, alas, don't. *sigh*

“this is not a good time for me to be a father”

That's just ice-cold and wrong, wrong, wrong.


"Oh, what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive." - Sir Walter Scott

In my effort to be *concise*, I often come off as blunt and harsh. Sorry, don't mean to be offensive.


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FirstLoveGone
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Default  Posted: 11:16 PM, May 28th (Tuesday)

Seriously?! I would just fucking send the response you typed out.

He is so fucking clueless. Who gives a shit what he thinks if you send it?

This dickhead needs some fire rained upon him. I think your email is perfect.

You never see him, you rarely communicate, you don't coparent with him, he lives across the world, and he doesn't pay you child support. . . so what have you got to lose in emailing your response?

Unless you think emailing him would open up some floodgates or be dentrimental to DD, I would hit that send button.


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Dreamboat
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Default  Posted: 11:24 PM, May 28th (Tuesday)

It is so tempting to send it. I have been trying to formulate a civil response to him in the past hour. I failed. I am just so fucking bitter.


And it's hard to dance with a devil on your back
So shake him off
-- Shake It Out, Florence And The Machine

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ButterflyGirl
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Default  Posted: 11:26 PM, May 28th (Tuesday)

I personally love your vent as well, but my advice would be to take the emotion out of it and stick to the facts..


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Dreamboat
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Default  Posted: 11:45 PM, May 28th (Tuesday)

Second attempt. A little more civil, but not much. Try try again tomorrow...

I am very sorry for your health. You must know that as much as I hate you I do not wish death upon you.

DD and I both know that you are living in the UK and have been for a long time. It was quite obvious. I have to tell you keeping the “secret” and pretending you did not move really hurt your relationship with DD. That was stupid.

I will ask DD if she wants to visit with your family. She is busy this summer with both sports and studies. She is taking 2 AP classes next year that require summer reading plus she is studying for the SAT and ACT. But if she wants to take a break and visit your family I will make it happen. Please do not push her on this issue because she is a peace keeper and will acquiesce just to remove pressure from herself.

She will not be visiting you while you live with that woman. You should really know better than to ask that of her. Right now you are lucky she even acknowledges you.

This year she made all A’s – a 4.0. She also scored a Gold on the National Latin Exam, which means she scored in the top 10%. And she was inducted into the National Latin Honor Society. She is very worried about college because she wants to go to Auburn but out of state tuition is very expensive now. Her backup plan is UGA but she does not want to go there for many reasons. There is no backup plan beyond that because she is not interested in engineering (so GaTech is out) and the other in state schools really suck. So she needs a 1470 on the SAT (Math and Vocab) to get a scholarship from Auburn, otherwise she has to go to UGA. BTW, you owe ~$80K in child support. If you had paid then I would not worry about the cost of tuition at Auburn. She does not know you are such a deadbeat. You are welcome.


And it's hard to dance with a devil on your back
So shake him off
-- Shake It Out, Florence And The Machine

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BrighterFuture
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Default  Posted: 12:04 AM, May 29th (Wednesday)

Perfect!


Me:30
Him:31
D-day:2/24/13 (I was 10 weeks pregnant at the time and DS was 15 months)
Status: Parted ways!

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BrighterFuture
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Default  Posted: 12:04 AM, May 29th (Wednesday)

[This message edited by VeryHurtbroken at 12:07 AM, May 29th (Wednesday)]


Me:30
Him:31
D-day:2/24/13 (I was 10 weeks pregnant at the time and DS was 15 months)
Status: Parted ways!

"If only I can fight just a little longer, I know it's gonna make me stronger" Jamie Grace-Holding on.


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BrighterFuture
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Default  Posted: 12:04 AM, May 29th (Wednesday)

[This message edited by VeryHurtbroken at 12:09 AM, May 29th (Wednesday)]


Me:30
Him:31
D-day:2/24/13 (I was 10 weeks pregnant at the time and DS was 15 months)
Status: Parted ways!

"If only I can fight just a little longer, I know it's gonna make me stronger" Jamie Grace-Holding on.


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BrighterFuture
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Default  Posted: 12:05 AM, May 29th (Wednesday)

Damn cellphone.

[This message edited by VeryHurtbroken at 12:10 AM, May 29th (Wednesday)]


Me:30
Him:31
D-day:2/24/13 (I was 10 weeks pregnant at the time and DS was 15 months)
Status: Parted ways!

"If only I can fight just a little longer, I know it's gonna make me stronger" Jamie Grace-Holding on.


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Dreamboat
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Default  Posted: 12:28 AM, May 29th (Wednesday)

Damn cellphone.


And it's hard to dance with a devil on your back
So shake him off
-- Shake It Out, Florence And The Machine

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TattoodChinaDoll
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Default  Posted: 12:45 AM, May 29th (Wednesday)

I need to hang out in D/S more often (since that is where I'm headed). I need everyone's wittiness to rub off on me!

ETA: It sounds like your DD is very intelligent and mature! And that she loves you very much.

[This message edited by TattoodChinaDoll at 12:47 AM, May 29th (Wednesday)]


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Grace and Flowers
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Default  Posted: 1:57 AM, May 29th (Wednesday)

I still like the first one better.

Just sayin'.


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Default  Posted: 7:50 AM, May 29th (Wednesday)

KKK Clicking the *Like* button!


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ButterflyGirl
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Default  Posted: 8:00 AM, May 29th (Wednesday)

Man, I'm conflicted..

For your second letter, I would say take out "You are stupid" and really anything having to do with the OW.. I would let your DD handle her feelings about that directly with your stupid ex. He really doesn't care what you have to say about it, and it could seem like you are speaking for your daughter, so I would let her speak to him directly about it..

But $80K due to child support????? Hmm, I back to liking your first email better

t/j And hi China Doll! I've been waiting to see you down here! You will find lots of people down here who know just what you are going through


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badd
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Default  Posted: 8:20 AM, May 29th (Wednesday)

I will ask DD if she wants to visit with you or your family. She is busy this summer with both sports and studies. She is taking 2 AP classes next year that require summer reading plus she is studying for the SAT and ACT. But if she wants to take a break and visit you or your family I will cooperate as I am able to help make it happen.

This year she made all A’s – a 4.0. She also scored a Gold on the National Latin Exam, which means she scored in the top 10%. And she was inducted into the National Latin Honor Society. She is very worried about college because she wants to go to Auburn but out of state tuition is very expensive now. S0 she needs a 1470 on the SAT (Math and Vocab) to get a scholarship from Auburn, otherwise she has to go to UGA. BTW, you owe ~$80K in child support. If you had paid then I would not worry about the cost of tuition at Auburn. She does not know you are such a deadbeat. For that, You're welcome.

These are your own words, and they are perfect. I added two or three words for inclusiveness re his and their visits, ok since you know she won't go to London. Also so you do NOT agree to "make it happen" but will cooperate to help. You do NOT want to get stuck accused of not paying airfare or providing a ride or whatever. Ignore the poor me health issues, that will cut him much deeper than anything you can say. You tell him with brutal lack of emotion it is up to her, but you will cooperate for her if needed, and you give her a hugely well supported out with all the activity information. As far as the well earned dig for child support and the even better earned your welcome for not letting her know? I would ABSOLUTELY leave it in, he is an asshole! good luck with it. What an ass (bears repeating), oh, and FTG!

[This message edited by badd at 8:55 AM, May 29th (Wednesday)]


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Default  Posted: 9:12 AM, May 29th (Wednesday)

I'm with badd. Kids/finances only. I would take out from "She does not know you're a deadbeat..." onwards too though.

Digs are ego kibbles for him. Let the fucker be ego kibble starved I say. He knows he's a douche - knowing you care either way would make him feel important. He is not.

FTG.


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Default  Posted: 10:13 AM, May 29th (Wednesday)

dammit, SBB is right, but it pisses me off too, as someone who has received not one penny of child support, I completely hear you, and I think he should know! of course we all know they DO know, and we all know they won't feel worse if we tell them, but it is HAAAAARD not to!

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Dreamboat
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Default  Posted: 10:40 AM, May 29th (Wednesday)

OK, I finally have a real response that is as emotionless as I can get. I did include that she will not be visiting him in the UK because of OW. He knows that she hates the whore because she refused to even speak to him for over a year when he first M the bitch. He needs to know how ridiculous his request is so that he does not put DD on the spot by asking her.


I am sorry for your health. Please take care of yourself.

I will ask DD if she really wants to visit Huntsville, but she is rather busy this summer with track, softball, and preparing for AP classes and the SAT/ACT. If she does want to visit then I will make it happen.

We knew you moved to the UK a very long time ago. She will not be visiting you while you live with that woman. You should really know better than to ask that of her.

[This message edited by Dreamboat at 11:11 AM, May 29th (Wednesday)]


And it's hard to dance with a devil on your back
So shake him off
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Default  Posted: 10:48 AM, May 29th (Wednesday)

I would take out "If she does want to visit then I will make it happen"...to..."If she does want to visit, I will let you know."

Saying "you'll make it happen" implies it's on your dime.

Hell to the no on that.

AJ's MOM

ETA: FYI - You have your DD's actual name on your post.

[This message edited by ajsmom at 10:49 AM, May 29th (Wednesday)]


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Default  Posted: 10:55 AM, May 29th (Wednesday)

How about this:

That's too bad (or it is unfortunate) that you're in poor health. I'm sure you'll recover in time.

I will ask DAUGHTER if she really wants to visit Huntsville, but she is rather busy this summer with track, softball, and preparing for AP classes and the SAT/ACT. If she does want to visit then we can discuss how to go about making it happen.

We knew you moved to the UK a very long time ago. She will not be visiting you while you live with that woman. Since you know how DAUGHTER feels about your wife, you should really know better than to ask that of her.


I wouldnt give him any kibbles on being "sorry" for his health. Acknowlegdge without giving any "feelings" about the matter.
I agree with AJsMom that by saying "I will make it happen" that you open the door to having to pay for stuff that HE should be responsible for.

ETA: It sounds like your daughter is an intelligent and very capable young woman (like her mother) despite having a dipshit for a sperm donor. Kudos to you and DD.

[This message edited by GabyBaby at 10:57 AM, May 29th (Wednesday)]


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Default  Posted: 11:06 AM, May 29th (Wednesday)

I wouldn't acknowledge his health. Who gives a flying fuck, really?

I'm with AJM on "I will make it happen".

I would also take out the last line from "We knew you moved..." including the "to ask that of her". No jabs because he's not important.

We're starving them of ego kibbles, remember?

F....T.....G.....

I also meant to say a big congrats to your DD for her marks - you must be positively thrilled!!


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Default  Posted: 5:38 PM, May 29th (Wednesday)

Why do you want to acknowledge his health? I'd skip that line personally. Fuck him whether he is in poor or good health.

Please, please tell me there is some way you can go after him for CS!...just pisses me off...


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Default  Posted: 7:32 PM, May 29th (Wednesday)

Love, love your letters!!

Honestly, I have always been most successful talking about kids and finances only. It's difficult a lot of the time, but my former (daily) stress headaches and general peace of mind is waay better than wasting even one minute of my time with worrying about that guy.

You can do it!

[This message edited by stronggirl72 at 7:32 PM, May 29th (Wednesday)]


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Default  Posted: 7:36 PM, May 29th (Wednesday)

I am just so fucking bitter.
No, you really aren't bitter. You're an honest realist dealing with a selfish assclown. Big difference.


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Default  Posted: 7:48 PM, May 29th (Wednesday)

Stupid POS broken person,

I will ask daughter if she would like to visit Huntsville, but she is rather busy this summer with track, softball, and AP classwork and the SAT/ACT prep. If she does want to visit, we can discuss how to go about making it happen.

We knew you moved to the UK a very long time ago. Daughter feels very uneasy about your wife and current living situation. Please realize that asking this of her puts her in a very awkward situation and may not in her best interest.

~Dreamboat


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Heavy Sigh
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Default  Posted: 8:00 PM, June 1st (Saturday)

Daughter feels very uneasy about your wife and current living situation. Please realize that asking this of her puts her in a very awkward situation and may not in her best interest.

If you have to mention London, which I wish you wouldn't, I would prefer this suggested way of saying it.

The way you wrote the original versions makes it sound as if YOU are the one blocking her way (the THAT WOMAN comment), and it really isn't daughter's decision or feelings but you who aren't allowing her to go. He will take the "that woman" comment as you saying "not over my dead body" and that your daughter is being prevented by it, rather than you leaving it her choice to make.

This allows him to feel self-righteous that it's your fault he never sees the daughter he never trieds to see, and ignore the fact he's a deadbeat. He will possibly memorize the "that woman" line to repeat to all family to make it seem you're a horrible shrew who bullies the daughter and impedes him from seeing her and it's not as if he isn't trying sooooo hard to see her, it's all your fault. You know he wants to do this anyhow - blame you.

Why give him that ammunition to throw HIS bad choices over onto you?

[This message edited by Heavy Sigh at 8:06 PM, June 1st (Saturday)]


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Default  Posted: 8:09 PM, June 1st (Saturday)

I think you're getting close to what you need to say in your response, and I don't have anything wise to add. However, make sure you wait a while (a few days, a week?) before you respond. He doesn't deserve your immediate response, and he may get kibbles from a speedy reply. Take your time.


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Default  Posted: 8:59 PM, June 1st (Saturday)

Deadbeat,

DD and I are aware that you are living in London.

I will let you know what DD decides about the visit to your family this summer.

Dreamboat

Seriously, that is all you need to address. He doesn't deserve to know how she's doing in school. You definitely don't need to acknowledge his health. And as for a visit to the UK, you know she won't be going, so there's no need to say anything.


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Default  Posted: 9:18 PM, June 1st (Saturday)

I missed this.
Love the first two drafts but Griefstricken's scaled down to the basics is enough.

Last Dec (last time I ever have to see FT) FT and I were doing business for about 2 hrs. All he did was whine about a family legal problem and his heart attack (he blames on me because I was pushing him legally.) I just kept repeating, I understand and Ummmm. He got NOTHING from me.

Your X deserves the same, NOTHING !
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Default  Posted: 12:34 AM, June 2nd (Sunday)

Too funny!

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Default  Posted: 9:12 AM, June 2nd (Sunday)

I personally would reply with crickets unless there was a (legitimate) question regarding kids or finances involved. No question=no response necessary. All the little statements in his email are worms on hooks! Be a smart fishy and don't take the bait!!

That said, loved your vent in the first response!!


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Default  Posted: 9:18 AM, June 2nd (Sunday)

Reminds me of that movie A Few Good Men. In the courtroom scene at the trial of the two marines, the defense attorney is setting the stage with a long narrative and the prosecutor asks "Is there a question anywhere in our future?". Always makes me chuckle...


Tune out the noise of what others tell you about who you are and work it out for yourself...

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Default  Posted: 12:27 PM, June 2nd (Sunday)

"Is there a question anywhere in our future?"

Hee hee. That scene makes me chuckle too.

I'm noticing a pattern with STBX's emails and texts. It's pretty much, "<curse words>, <complaint about money>, <lie about money>, <false accusation about divorce proceedings>, <false accusation about kids>, <bitch and moan>, <more curse words>."

Me: Hmm, still not seeing a question there. Moving along now.. Nothing to see here..


I hope you were able to figure out a good response Dreamboat! I know you are trying to protect your daughter, but I still think it might be best if she tells him how she feels herself. He can continue to think that you are brainwashing and speaking for her until he hears it from her mouth.. My ex tries to tell me all the time that the kids hate me and want nothing to do with me and I intimidate them and that they will leave me later in life. It's all complete bullshit, and my son even told me that he has to say things like that to daddy so daddy won't be mad at him..

Just saying that I don't believe anything me ex tells me about how my kids feel about me, so he might not believe you either.. And she sounds like high school age, so maybe she's old enough to fight for herself here and tell him how she feels. I know you want to protect her, but sounds like he DID abandon her, and she's going to have to deal with that..

Big hugs to you and your daughter..


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