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TattoodChinaDoll
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Default  Posted: 7:55 PM, June 1st (Saturday)

Wouldn't you think the man who has said all along that he didn't want a divorce and that he wanted a miracle to save this marriage would have fallen to his knees sobbing for forgiveness and begging for me not to go through with this? Oh, he has fallen to his knees sobbing before...when it was just too hard for him to be remorseful, compassionate, and empathetic. When it was all too frustrating for him because I wasn't better yet. I'm not saying this is what I want to see. More just a baffled feeling. Ok...maybe not baffled because I know what he has shown me is his true self and that wouldn't happen. Come to think of it, I think that would be a sign of remorse...being brought to your knees from the pain of the BS, not because of your own. Since Thursday he has said nothing about me being done. He either thinks I'm going to back down and he'll get his way again, or he is just doing what he has done for the last year and a half...shown me who he is.


Me (BW): 32
WH: 33 TimeToManUp
Married: 11 years, together 16 years
3 daughters: 9, 5, 3, and and 2 angel babies (2013 and 2014)
D-Day: 12/21/2011
Confronted him: 12/22/2011


Posts: 1728 | Registered: Jan 2012 | From: New Jersey
SBB
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Member # 35229
Default  Posted: 8:30 PM, June 1st (Saturday)

It is very difficult to see what you've been blinding yourself from for so long.

I wasn't confused when it happened - I was shocked. Shocked at how long I ignored it. How long I blinded myself. How hard I gaslighted myself.

His lack of remorse was a gift. It may have taken me a few more years to walk away myself had he continued to fake it.

Take your focus off him - only hurt is down that path. The decision here is not his, it is yours.

Right now you might be playing the "What If" game. A version of that is "If only he would..". It will keep you in this limbo for longer than you need to be.

I always remember a line I read here once "Its up to you how painful this needs to get".

Astonished is another good word - don't let it blind you when he embarks on another hoovering campaign.


I may have reached a point where I'd piss on him if he was on fire.... eventually!!

Posts: 5619 | Registered: Apr 2012 | From: Australia
TattoodChinaDoll
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Default  Posted: 8:45 PM, June 1st (Saturday)

I don't want him to do that. I am not saying that if he did I'd jump right back in his arms. I know better (I hope). I just don't know what the word I'm looking for is. I'm not surprised because I knew he would be like this because of what he has done for the last year and a half and what that has proven about him. Not really baffled because I figured out his whys for him and it coincides with his whys...passive aggressive, narcissistic, immature, selfish, and lacking any capacity for empathy. I guess it's just weird. Weird that he can't see it...but that's because I don't have his whys. I know eventually he is going to get mad at me for being strong. He always does. And then will say hurtful as verbally abusive things to me to get me to engage. It's a shame that I have it all figured out and I'm still here.


Me (BW): 32
WH: 33 TimeToManUp
Married: 11 years, together 16 years
3 daughters: 9, 5, 3, and and 2 angel babies (2013 and 2014)
D-Day: 12/21/2011
Confronted him: 12/22/2011


Posts: 1728 | Registered: Jan 2012 | From: New Jersey
Nature_Girl
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Default  Posted: 9:53 PM, June 1st (Saturday)

I was curious why he never bothered talking to me about the looming marital problems or threatened divorce. Never hinted at wanting to talk. Nothing. Refused to talk during MC, too. And then when I threw him out & had him served, while he was telling other people he was desperate to talk to me, he never once made any attempt to contact me. No phone call, no email, no letter, no note under my windshield wiper. Nothing. Which by that point I didn't expect him to try.

But yeah, it was a strange feeling to know that he expended less than zero energy in my direction to talk about or try to save the marriage. Or even act like he cared. Or even noticed.


Me = BS (Stay-at-home-mom)
Him = EX-d out (abusive troglodyte NPD SA)
3 tween-aged kids
Together 20 years
D-Day: Memorial Weekend 2011
2013 - I DIVORCED HIM, I'M FREE!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBOJpIwF47Y

Posts: 9856 | Registered: Jun 2011 | From: USA
TattoodChinaDoll
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Default  Posted: 10:01 PM, June 1st (Saturday)

My WH wanted me to go to MC. But I really think it was to control me. Ti get me to "feel better" so he cohld get what he used to out of me. He was lying to me for 9 months and not answering questions. He wouldn't have given the truth to an MC.

What it is, is a weird feeling that a human being can be like that. A human being that you thought would be at your side until the day you died. Actually, I didn't have "til death do us part," in our wedding vows. Because I thought that we'd be together forever...here and in Heaven. He must be a cyborg from Planet X.


Me (BW): 32
WH: 33 TimeToManUp
Married: 11 years, together 16 years
3 daughters: 9, 5, 3, and and 2 angel babies (2013 and 2014)
D-Day: 12/21/2011
Confronted him: 12/22/2011


Posts: 1728 | Registered: Jan 2012 | From: New Jersey
Nature_Girl
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Member # 32554
Default  Posted: 10:04 PM, June 1st (Saturday)

My STBX has spoken openly about wishing he could be a robot and not a human. He's wanted this for 20 or 30 years. He'd prefer to not have feelings and not have any ability to be affected by annoying humans. Nasty humanzies with their nasty feelinzies. Gollum! Gollum!


Me = BS (Stay-at-home-mom)
Him = EX-d out (abusive troglodyte NPD SA)
3 tween-aged kids
Together 20 years
D-Day: Memorial Weekend 2011
2013 - I DIVORCED HIM, I'M FREE!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBOJpIwF47Y

Posts: 9856 | Registered: Jun 2011 | From: USA
gma56
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DOH!  Posted: 10:10 PM, June 1st (Saturday)

But yeah, it was a strange feeling to know that he expended less than zero energy in my direction to talk about or try to save the marriage. Or even act like he cared. Or even noticed.

We were separated for 4-5 mo after dday and then had a 3 mo false R. He disappeared one day on a flight back to Thailand and Twat. Like it is said here everyday...look at the actions and never expect anything different.

As you detach and no longer have daily contact other than about kids and finances, you will see the marriage/WS completely different than you did when living the lie.

The dots will start to connect and then you say to yourself, WTH was I thinking by staying with WS ?? We definitely have our own fog as BSs.
Hugs you will be analyzing the marriage and him for months to come. It's eye opening !
Hugs
GMA


BW-Divorced
It's my life now, my choices, my mistakes to make and my victories to celebrate. His choices made me free of liars and betrayers in my life. That is priceless.

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confused615
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Default  Posted: 7:08 AM, June 2nd (Sunday)

I wonder if he is still having an affair with OW? He is unremorseful,selfish,refuses to quit his job,even though OW works 3 doors down in the same building,and now that you have decided you're done..he hasn't done or said anything to stop you from filing.

I've followed your posts..and his. He is so unemotional...unless it's to feel sorry for himself. He wants you to get over it already. He has been told by you,by me,by many SI members what he needed to do..when he came here asking what he should do...and then did nothing. It's as if,after dday,he never checked back into the marriage. He *said* he did...but his actions show otherwise.


You deserve better.

((((TCD))))


BS(me)42
FWH 45
4 kids
M: June 2001
D-Day: 8/10/10
Status: Reconciling?

..that feeling you get in your stomach, when you heart's broken. It's like all the butterflies just died.


Posts: 7743 | Registered: Jan 2011 | From: Indiana
nomistakeaboutit
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Default  Posted: 7:43 AM, June 2nd (Sunday)

Incredulous, maybe?

I hope for you that the word eventually becomes, "thankful".

Best to you and your little ones.


Me: BH 58.........Her: WW 45
DD: 8..........DS: 5
Married for six years.
DDay: 12-25-11 Divorced: 7-15-12
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"It's like a nightmare within a nightmare, which in and of itself is a nightmare!"

Posts: 963 | Registered: Sep 2012 | From: U.S.A.
TattoodChinaDoll
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Member # 34602
Default  Posted: 10:47 AM, June 2nd (Sunday)

Confused - That whole second paragraph is pretty much it. He can scream and cry when he is annoyed and frustrated...but can't show me or even tell me in his own words how hurt he is because of how much I hurt (not that he feels that way). I've coached him on everything. I've begged him to be proactive and that I didn't want to have to tell him everything.

I don't think he is with OW. But of course the thought has crossed my mind. And of course it's just one of those things I'll never know if he is there. I have said in anger that he should just go be with her. That they deserve each other and that that they should just go be broken together instead if ruining other people's lives. I was probably right about that.


Me (BW): 32
WH: 33 TimeToManUp
Married: 11 years, together 16 years
3 daughters: 9, 5, 3, and and 2 angel babies (2013 and 2014)
D-Day: 12/21/2011
Confronted him: 12/22/2011


Posts: 1728 | Registered: Jan 2012 | From: New Jersey
Williesmom
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Default  Posted: 12:55 PM, June 2nd (Sunday)

My wxh didn't really cry until the day that I told him that I was filing the final D papers and that it would be final within a week. I think that he was in denial the whole time that I would actually go through with it.


You can stuff your sorries in a sack, mister. -George Costanza
There is a special place in hell for women who don't help other women. - Madeleine Albright

Posts: 7781 | Registered: Feb 2009 | From: Western PA
Vulcanized
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Default  Posted: 1:40 PM, June 2nd (Sunday)

I have said in anger that he should just go be with her. That they deserve each other and that that they should just go be broken together instead if ruining other people's lives. I was probably right about that.

Sadly, yes, those are all true statements. Not that it hurts any less.

(((TCD)))


Me: MH 40s; Him: MH 40s (I had RA)
OW: 30s, moron; one of many
M: 8 yrs
3/13: D'd
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Everything is as it should be.

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