User Topic: Still hate?
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Default  Posted: 5:07 PM, July 26th (Friday)

All of you who are divorced... especially those a few years out, if there are any...

do you still hate the OM/OW?

I have been cheated on by 3 different men, and I have more DDays than anyone ever should. I am here, just trying to pickup the pieces.

At least the current man "only" cyber-cheated.

"Love means never having to say you're sorry."

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Default  Posted: 5:37 PM, July 26th (Friday)

I hate that she's a part of my kids' lives. Unfortunately, the contact that I have to have with XWH and the fact that I have minor kids who come back from visitation and tell me what's going on over there has definitely kept me from full "meh" at this point.

But hate her? Nah. She's pitiful. That she can marry my ex after meeting him on Ashley Madison and think that he's some kind of great meal ticket for herself and her kids is totally pathetic. She has no job, no degree... she's just gone from one negative marriage to another (which she'll discover at some point). I also pity her kids-- it must suck to have such a selfish woman for a mother.

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Default  Posted: 7:56 PM, July 26th (Friday)

OW is non existent to me. She is a non-entity. If she lives or dies, it will have no impact on this world. She is nothing. She is less than dead.

Now my X, I still hate him. But then he still hurts my DD.

And it's hard to dance with a devil on your back
So shake him off
-- Shake It Out, Florence And The Machine

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Default  Posted: 8:39 PM, July 26th (Friday)

Hate her? Sure, not so much for me but how her and Ex's selfish actions hurt my son and effect his life.
But I find I don't think of her every day like I used to, hardly at all now really. However if she was trapped in burning car in front of me with no one else around.....

"I shall Forgive and Forget.
Forgive myself for being stupid and Forget about you."

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Default  Posted: 9:23 PM, July 26th (Friday)

I would like to add that I consciously delegated OW to a non-entity. I had to work on that. For a long time after dday I obsessed over her until one day someone on SI pointed out that I was letting her live rent free in my head. So I evicted the bitch.

It is a process, but it can be done and for me it was incredibly freeing.


And it's hard to dance with a devil on your back
So shake him off
-- Shake It Out, Florence And The Machine

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Default  Posted: 9:31 PM, July 26th (Friday)

I don't hate the wifetress. If anything, I pity her. She's an insecure and weak woman, now married to an insecure and weak man. But mostly, I don't think about her much at all. She's irrelevant.

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Default  Posted: 9:34 PM, July 26th (Friday)

Well, my divorce isn't officially final yet, but it has been 4 years since STBXH and I separated with no chance of R, so I'm going to answer the question .

Unfortunately, I DO still hate the OW. She and STBXH have broken up, but I still hate her for what she did to me and my children. And yes, I realize STBXH is to blame also, and I still hate him for it too.

I would love to be at the point of indifference, but I'm not. OW (and STBXH) destroyed my family when my youngest was only 4 months old. Mine and my kids' world changed in an instant. How do you stop hating people who could do something so heartless?

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Married 12yrs - together 20
A started 2/09 - S 7/09 - he filed for D 12/09
I wanted to R and he didn't. He never stopped seeing the MOW, who filed for D 11/09. They've since broke up...for now.

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Default  Posted: 9:36 PM, July 26th (Friday)

I don't dwell on it any more, but I still hope that she and my wxh die slow and painful deaths.

Then I don't think about them any more.

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Default  Posted: 9:54 PM, July 26th (Friday)

I didn't answer my own question.

The ow with my college ex fiancé? I don't hate her. I feel sorry for her- and also admire her for calling the cops when he hit her. That's something I wish I had done.

The ow who was with my DD's dad? It's been 4 years. I still have a restraining order, so she isn't part of my life or my daughter's life at all. The majority of the time, I don't think of her at all, she isn't even a blimp on my radar.

But even after 4 years, I still don't consider her a human being. I hear about her every now and then again, and I smile when I hear that she is having a rough time. I have never considered myself as a hateful, vengeful person- but this ow...if I could murder her and have no consequences for doing so, I would. I wouldn't bat an eyelash or lose one moment of sleep. She disgusts me.

I have been cheated on by 3 different men, and I have more DDays than anyone ever should. I am here, just trying to pickup the pieces.

At least the current man "only" cyber-cheated.

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Default  Posted: 10:02 PM, July 26th (Friday)

I don't hate OW. That would give her too much power. She comes and sits in the car at drop offs. She will attend some sporting events to mark her territory and to "support my kids." < that is not hate, that is disgust.

She disgusts me. I don't like her, I don't approve of her actions or her behavior. The fact that she sets herself up as a caring adult in my children's lives makes me roll my eyes every single time.

My youngest asked me this same question. Do I hate OW? I answered him with the truth. I don't hate her. But I don't like her. I will never like her. We won't be friends or friendly. But I am not going to pull her hair, spit in her general direction, key her car or otherwise embarrass myself or my kids.

At this point, if a voodoo doll could cause her absolute pain within my control, I don't think I would exercise that power. Shortly after dday? I'd have set that bitch on fire. Now? eh, she's pitiful enough all by herself.

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D 12/2012

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Default  Posted: 10:07 PM, July 26th (Friday)

I hated OWUglyIndian so much that I made her important for quite a few months.

Not anymore. I don't hate any of them. I think they are horrible, hideous people but I don't hate them. They didn't do this to me or my family - if it wasn't them it would have been be someone else, some other low hanging fruit who was willing and in proximity.

I do hate it that OWUmpteen is in my girls lives. I hate it that she shares time with them that I feel has been stolen from me. She is a 24 y/o imbecile - I hate it just the same that that 41 y/o imbecile gets to steal time from me just to diddle on his computer or diddle his whore instead of cherishing and giving my girls the quality time they so richly deserve.

Thinking of this quote helped me move past some of the hot anger:

Holding onto hatred is like drinking poison and expecting the other person to die.

I may have reached a point where I'd piss on him if he was on fire.... eventually!!

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Default  Posted: 10:19 PM, July 26th (Friday)


SBB, the first version of that quote I heard was

Hate is like holding a hot coal in your hand and hoping it will burn the other person.

Then I heard the poison version and liked it better. But it was both of these that helped me move on too! We are cosmic twins in healing.

end t/j

[This message edited by caregiver9000 at 10:19 PM, July 26th (Friday)]

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Default  Posted: 10:49 PM, July 26th (Friday)

How do you stop hating people who could do something so heartless?

You make that person a nothing. A void. An erased entity. A nothing that matters to no one and will never ever have any impact on the world. A void that will not even register on any person's radar if they cease to exist. In fact, it is like they do not exist now because they mean nothing to nobody.

THAT is better than hate. When a person is hated then they have power and notoriety. Think about Hitler. Do you want OW to have the recognition in life and death that Hitler had? No. You want her to be never remembered ever ever again. Not loved. But also not hated because that brings as much emotion as love. Rather, to be non-existent.

And it's hard to dance with a devil on your back
So shake him off
-- Shake It Out, Florence And The Machine

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Default  Posted: 11:18 PM, July 26th (Friday)

My answer is surprising to me.

No, I don't hate her.

She played a key part in the breakdown of my marriage, she was opportunistic and she exhibited the morals of a dishrag BUT she was not the one who I had exchanged vows with. No, I don't hate her. I can honestly say I don't feel anything towards her.

Now, if you had asked about the XH, that's a different story.

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Default  Posted: 11:59 PM, July 26th (Friday)

I do. If she showed any kind of remorse, or any kind of character, I don't think I'd feel that way. But she's a spider.

She ended up dumping him. Just like she dumped the last married man. And will the next. My ex ruined his life for nothing. Left his kids to move across the country, for nothing. For a spider spinning webs for her prey.
On a recent blog post (she's a writer for an ad agency) her final words were:
Who knew that the suffering of others would put such a big smile on my face?

Oh the irony. I believe every word of that is true.

So yeah, hate pretty much sums it up. Wish she didn't have that power...

[This message edited by NWfleur at 12:00 AM, July 27th (Saturday)]

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DD: 4/10/2012
(Separated since 12/11...affair began ??!!)


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Default  Posted: 3:53 AM, July 27th (Saturday)

Nope, not at all. I think it's just plain sad that OW is so pathetic that she wanted my life. Now she's got it, except XH didn't marry her, but he does cheat on her.

As for him, I pity him. Still hope he can one day be the man I gave him too much credit for being. Which makes me ... foggy at best.

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Default  Posted: 8:25 AM, July 27th (Saturday)

You know, I never hated stripper-whore. She's a barely literate white trailer trash stripper that gave blow jobs outside the club for extra cash. I find her pathetic and not worth my time.

I tell everyone who tries to hate on her (the few people that I have contact with that see the happy couple) that they should encourage her to get an education on ex-shat's dime.

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Default  Posted: 8:51 AM, July 27th (Saturday)

No, I don't hate her anymore. I don't wish her well, but she is not worthy of me feeling anything about her.

Me: BGF - 33
Together 11+ years - not married, no children.
D-Day: 2/9/2010
OC Born: 10/9/2010
Status: He chose OW/OC and left immediately.

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Default  Posted: 11:57 AM, July 27th (Saturday)

NW? Hate her? No . Fear her? Yes- she is bat shite crazy. She used to bring her gun to kid pickup AND tell my kids she needed it for protection because I threatened her! I didn't. But it ( and the stand your ground law) had me arranging for undercover police protection at kid drop off. She and XH moved closer and closer, they now live 1/2 me away. She drives by my house regularly. Youngest is 18 and out of HS. Xh and I have no need for contact, yet she still drives by. We have been divorced for 10 years. I think she hates me, her obsession with me is a little scary.

Other than worrying about my safety, they are mostly comic relief in a sick sort of way.

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Default  Posted: 3:02 PM, July 27th (Saturday)

I don't hate OW anymore. "It" is a pawn in his life, just as I and are children, family and friends all have been. Rather, I pity "it" if the thoughts even enter my head anymore.

It took some thinking on my part and work with counselors to get to a point where I can believe that OW is just a symptom or product of the A and it could've been anyone.

OW fell for the same initial charm that I did. But the mask doesn't hold up under pressure and a snake is beneath.

If OW creeps into my head nowadays, it's with a shake and thought of "stupid fool", for I and she know what "it" is getting and "it" is choosing to accept it-"it" is someone who can be hugely controlled and is being controlled and going to get shock of her life someday, as I did. Calling it "her" makes her too real and too person-like, so "it" works better for me to keep thinking of a a sense, like Gollum but very large.

I am not divorced yet but it is in process. I've been waiting to see if "it" appears at a mediation meeting or someday shows up at my door. TBTD...That'll Be The Day!

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Default  Posted: 3:05 PM, July 27th (Saturday)

P.S. It occurred to me in the wee hours one night that I've been cheated on by every man but one, Beyond Breaking. It's not many, but hit me hard.

Do I wear a "stupid" or "naive" sign or something?

There is one who, for whatever reason, has come out of the wood work from over 20 years ago and tries to tell me he didn't really do it...he is married and I keep ignoring him or telling him, "go away." What gives?

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Default  Posted: 7:42 PM, July 27th (Saturday)

The OW was my best friend. I loved her like a sister.

She not only had an affair with my husband, she manipulated me. She would ask me questions about my marriage, and report back to him, she encouraged me to leave him after I found out about the first affair, etc. She told anyone that would listen (after news of the affair broke) that I abused him for years. She shows NO respect for boundaries or my role as their mother - she insists on showing up for everything, parent teacher conferences, etc.

I am working on letting the hatred go, for ME, but yes, I hate her.

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Ex said he wanted separation 2/14/10
DDay #1: 5/23/10 18 month affair with his 22 yr old paralegal
DDay #2 9/22/10 my best friend, now his wife
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Default  Posted: 9:12 PM, July 27th (Saturday)

Yes, I think hoya is definitely entitled to the hate - what a bitch...

As for me it's like someone posted earlier:

I consciously delegated OW to a non-entity

As I told XWH a long time ago, I already got the best he had to offer, she can have what's left, and it ain't pretty.

And, when I have thought of her, I pity her.

I may see her for the first time in a couple of weeks at my nephew's 3rd bday party. My XSIL and I are still close - she has refused to allow X to bring OW around for the past 2 1/2 years since Dday - but my XMIL is pushing for her to at least allow her to be there - it's fine I can handle it now. Honestly, it will be fun to watch her squirm because my SIL's In Laws are a huge family who adore me, lol.

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Him: XWH-44
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DDays: 1/10/2011
Status: Divorced 4/27/11

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Default  Posted: 9:52 PM, July 27th (Saturday)

Hate ex? Yes, with a passion. Hate OW? She's not with ex anymore so no, I don't care about her one way or another. If she were with ex still I'm not sure how I'd feel? I think she is pathetic and stupid but I don't hate her.

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Default  Posted: 12:00 PM, July 28th (Sunday)

With all my heart.

I don't think I will ever stop hating her because I think she is a very shrewd, conniving bitch. She worked with my ex for like 10 years and they never had any interest in each other. Then all of a sudden after she is put in charge of payroll and sees that my ex made very good money, I think little $$ popped up in her eyes and she set her eyes on her target. I could just hear her saying "I'm gonna get me a piece of that pie".

At an office Christmas party, 3 years before I kicked ex out, she acted very, very strange towards me. I caught her staring holes in me but she wouldn't speak a word to me - we used to talk all the time before that. When me an H got in car after the party, I asked what was her deal and he showed absolutely no signs of guilt so I don't think he was "gaga" yet. Don't think he started thinking of her as an OW until end of 2008 from things I can piece together.

So bottom line, I truly believe in my heart that she pursued my H for at least a 1-1/2 before the big dumbfuck figured out she was coming on to him and then he jumped on that fast train to affairyland.

Even though he "finished" it, I do believe she started it, so I will hate her forever and a day for chasing after my H and sinking her hooks into him.

Of course I will always hate him too for allowing her to sink her hooks.

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Default  Posted: 12:42 PM, July 28th (Sunday)

Yes. But it's not an ACTIVE hate. She doesn't occupy my mind and I don't plot her downfall. But, yes. I hate her.

I understand the people who say "why hate her, she could have been anyone". If that works for them - Great. But, if a drunk driver slammed into my car and destroyed my family, I'd hate them too. Sure, it could have been any other drunk driver...but it wasn't. It was that person. They made a choice and the choice they made caused pain and damage to me and mine.

Like I said though, it is not an active, all-consuming hate like right after D-day. It doesn't occupy my every waking thought or interfere with my life. But, while I may no longer be plotting her downfall, I have party hats and confetti standing by in case it happens anyway.

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Default  Posted: 2:48 PM, July 28th (Sunday)

I don't. I don't want to be friends with her, but much of that is because she's such an unpleasant person. Like XWH!!! However, I am in many ways grateful to her (though it took me a long time to realize and admit this.)

While the pain of infidelity was beyond anything I could have imagined, it made me take a good look at my XWH and my marriage and realize that he was (is) a broken, abusive, personality-disordered person. I was happy in the marriage, and thought I had married my best friend, but my life is so much more amazing now.

I realized that XWH was a parasite, sucking me dry. He's like the dementors in Harry Potter. He could suck the joy out of any situation. I always made excuses for him -- his childhood, the demands of medical school, etc -- but really, it's just because he's a broken, unpleasant person.

I truly believed in marriage for life, and I'm not sure that I ever would have left him had it not been for the cheating. I also don't believe that if it hadn't been her, it would have been anyone. She was almost a clone of his mom, and there aren't many people unfortunate enough to claim that! I'm pretty sure that it was only because of the sick semi-incestuousness of MOW that he had an affair with her.

But life is so much better now that I'm glad she was immoral and willing to step outside her marriage to sleep with my husband. Otherwise, I would have been saddled to that dementor for the rest of my life; existing instead of living.

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Default  Posted: 10:39 AM, July 29th (Monday)

I am not divorced yet (EXH signes the papers this week woot) but we have been separated for two years (dday was 4 years ago).

I don't think of her at all. I guess because I always blamed him from day one. He made the committment to me, not her. She is just some sad person who thought she could get something from a married man. He dropped her real quick when I found out and has never gone back to her.

I have to drive by her work quite often and barely give it a thought. She got what she deserved and I think he did too. So I am happy .

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DS - 12
D-day 06/21/09
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Default  Posted: 2:57 PM, July 29th (Monday)

I'm 8 years out. I never hated OW. She only lasted about 6 months post-D. I have forgotten her name.

Don't hate XWH either. Hate is a wasted emotion in my world. I have moved on, survived, and am thriving.


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Default  Posted: 3:20 PM, July 29th (Monday)

So many great lines on this thread!

I don't "hate" any of the OW as that implies some level of caring, and I don't give one tinkers damn what happens to any of them. If they all fell off into a giant sinkhole tomorrow I would only shrug and give a "meh." They don't deserve any of my energy. They were nothing more than notches on POS's bed post.

As for POS...well, I don't "hate" him, but I absolutely hate what he has done to me, our marriage, and the family. I hate what he continues to do to the kids. I will never forgive him for any of that. I cannot turn off 30 years of feelings overnight, but I am really quite ambivalent where he is concerned.

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Default  Posted: 3:33 PM, July 29th (Monday)

I don't have warm fuzzies for her. In fact, if I am asked to think of her (like, here), I do kind of hate her.

But here's the thing: I have more important things to worry about. LOTS of them. And she's NOWHERE on my to-do list.

She's a nonentity, basically. If I am encouraged to think of her, I can muster up some ill feelings. But really, I don't care to think of her at all. (Now that I'm thinking of her, though, I hope the quality of her life reflects the quality of her character. Her nonchalant attitude when I was scared for my depressed son's life---a depression triggered by my poor son learning of the A before I did, and hiding it because he had NO idea what to do with the information-- earned her that. I suspect she continues to skate, unscathed. That's just how life is,sometimes---just plain unfair. And for that, I can work up a head of hatred. For a minute or two, until something real demands my attention. Like my dog, who wants to be let in from the backyard. He's WAY more important to me than a broken whore who uses other people to fill her holes.)

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Default  Posted: 3:35 PM, July 29th (Monday)

I don't hate her because I don't care about her.

BUT, if she was still in my ex's life I might feel differently. They weren't together anymore when she came to my door and told me about their affair. She was jealous and thought he was cheating on HER at that moment so she came to me to rat him out. So twisted.

So I hated her in the moment, but could care less now. I haven't passed her anywhere and I know I wouldn't like it if I did. But I don't care enough to look her way or say anything to her. She's beneath me.

As for my ex, I reached the stage of indifference. Hallelujah!! It helps that he's apologized. In fact, that step was totally necessary for me to get here. I see and talk to him far too often because of our young son whom we share 50/50 (custody only, no finances exchanged.)

But now he's just a super familiar stranger if that makes sense.

I'm happy now. No room to hate.

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Default  Posted: 8:11 PM, July 30th (Tuesday)

OW means nothing to me. I feel nothing but pity for her.

Now my XWH, him I hate, more for the damage he has done to his children than for his betrayal of me.

I wasn't married to OW. I was married to XWH. He's the one who cheated on me and pretended everything was fine.

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Default  Posted: 8:22 PM, July 30th (Tuesday)

Once I decided to leave my xWH, it's a little shocking by how much the xAPs have become a non-entity to me. Zero. But I think it's because I've been able to detach from the whole thing.

However, my ex didn't stay with either of his APs (although his new GF is another of his 'just friends' so maybe he is) and we never speak as we don't have children or any shared property or issues. We have like 1% overlap in life (friends). That's it. I think that makes a huge difference.

Don't get me wrong, I don't *like* xOWs. I would probably get some satisfaction if I heard something terrible happened to them, but there isn't that constant seething hatred.

ETA: I don't even really hate my exWH. Resent? Yes. Angry? Sometimes. Hate... no.

[This message edited by hurtbs at 8:22 PM, July 30th (Tuesday)]

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Default  Posted: 7:30 AM, July 31st (Wednesday)

All of you all are better people than me. I still hate OW#umpteen and all the others that I know about (ie have names for) plus xWH. All of the OW were complicit in the long con my xWH ran on me. All were equally culpable for stealing 10 years of my life, all the money that I worked for from age 20 to 45 and well, just everything.

It's not ever present, I don't think about it much, but when I do, I am filled with a visceral hate that if one of them or xWH were in front of me and I thought I could get away with it, I would beat them to a bloody pulp. I can visually see the damage I would do and occasionally I get the satisfaction of doing it in my dreams. And that feeling doesn't make me feel shameful, it kind of makes me grin. Call me an awful person if you want, I don't care. There was an SI member who told me I was heartless, and in this area, you bet I am. And proud of it.

I think one reason the hate stays alive is that most of the OW from the last 5 years, plus xWH are in my orbit. So there is always the potential that they will show up in my work place and fuck with my current life. And I mean fuck with my career, not just be a presence.

In my current posting, I very openly explained about xWH and he is banned from entering the country I am in and I have permission to report if he does. But of course, that says nothing about the future b/c as I get further from this, people will be less understanding of my fear.

So in truth, I think the hate remains b/c I still feel vulnerable to them in that area. Whatever though. I've survived a lot and will survive this too. It's what I do apparently so I might as well accept it, stop trying to pretend I'm weak and get on with it.

"The difference between involvement and commitment is like ham and eggs. The chicken is involved, the pig is committed." -Martina Navratilova
"The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me." -Ayn Rand

Posts: 3124 | Registered: Dec 2008 | From: Mexico
Member # 18222
Default  Posted: 8:31 AM, July 31st (Wednesday)

Most of the OW were ones I found out about long after I kicked ex out, so, I guess they never really registered with me, they were just confirmation I made the right choice. OW1 probably should have hated, she is the one who told me he was cheating, claimed she didn't know at the time that he was married, then months later hooked up with him again, but I just don't even care to muster up the energy to have any feelings for her whatsoever.

OW2 I hated for a long time, then I pitied her, then we got along while I pitied her, but their "relationship" couldn't tolerate my kindness and she ran away. It's been a year now since she left, and I wish her well, just because I loved her daughters, and hated they were caught in the middle of their mother's crap, and I hope she can get her shit together and give them a good life.

If you had to,d me 4 or 5 years ago I would feel this way, I would have laughed, but...things change.

Me-29,Two boys, 10 and 9

It will all be ok in the end. If it's not ok, it's not the end

Happily remarried to a wonderful man (Aussie). I think I found the right guy and the right finger this time.

Posts: 4491 | Registered: Feb 2008 | From: Indiana
Helen of Troy
Member # 26419
Default  Posted: 9:15 AM, July 31st (Wednesday)

Not anymore. I don't hate any of them. I think they are horrible, hideous people but I don't hate them. They didn't do this to me or my family - if it wasn't them it would have been be someone else, some other low hanging fruit who was willing and in proximity.

I do hate it that OWUmpteen is in my girls lives. I hate it that she shares time with them that I feel has been stolen from me. She is a 24 y/o imbecile - I hate it just the same that that 41 y/o imbecile gets to steal time from me just to diddle on his computer or diddle his whore instead of cherishing and giving my girls the quality time they so richly deserve.

I feel the same way.
OWnw and XWH either buy the kids too much junkfood and junk, and other wise ignore them. What they really need most is presence not presents.
I don't hate this OW. There were several why should I single her out? I dislike her.
I wish she would be a better adult when my kids are around her. She is also hooked on opiate meds that are not even prescribed for her/does not have a legit reason to be taking them. I worry about my girls' safety when she drives them. I feel powerless about that.
She also tries to email me nastygrams where she wants to tell me all my perceived faults with profanity-- her emails are all filtered to the trash unread. This according to kids, infuriates her. Too bad too sad. Let the actual parents do the parenting. The only reason she would need to communicate with me would be to tell me the girls' father died. Anything else I don't deal with her at all.
The girls are embarrassed by her trailerfabulousness, walmart shopping, pork rind eating, accent and poor grammar. Example "It don't matter. It really don't" That's how she talks. She also tries to buy them skanky inappropriate clothing. They're not allowed to wear those things when they're at home or with me. (90% custody is mine)

Posts: 4715 | Registered: Dec 2009
Member # 39801
Default  Posted: 9:41 AM, July 31st (Wednesday)

I have always disliked her due to per personality, I knew her before the A.
I don't hate her for what she did because she's just a needy, incomplete, broken individual who finds that broken WS mirrors her need.
I take strength in the knowledge that I am strong enough to get myself well and not be the kind of person who needs HIM.
She does not have that, he doesn't have the strength to fix himself.
So hate, not really.
As for him, I pity him. Still hope he can one day be the man I gave him too much credit for being

^^This too...but I still have hope that my #1XWH will get his shit straight, and he's been cheating on women for 20 years.
What is it about people like us who see the potential best in people, the people who never fulfill that potential?
Oh, wait-we're codependent. Lol. Keep forgetting.

I cannot be responsible for another's personal growth.
DDay#1 of a "cheatillion" 4/1/13
Divorce final 11/04/13

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