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Default  Posted: 9:32 AM, August 27th (Tuesday)

Im still traumatized by it. Robin Thicke should be ashamed for being a part of that mess! Not art!

She looked like a tweaker. She needs a reality check.

How she was behaving with Robin Thicke was beyond disturbing. No respect for herself or others. Just out to shock and out do lady weirdo! Sad


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Default  Posted: 9:44 AM, August 27th (Tuesday)

Robin Thicke should be ashamed for being a part of that mess!

Some reports are saying that what she did on the show was not what was rehearsed and that she "improvised" while on stage. I have no idea. I just know that what she did was just vulgar and classless.


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Default  Posted: 9:46 AM, August 27th (Tuesday)

Remember when Jamie Foxx said years ago that she would burn out and end up on a stripper pole? He caught hell for that. Wonder what he is thinking right now.

Sadly, the media types talking about how bad this is are the same ones making fun of Taylor Swift trying to stay squeaky clean. She still takes her mother to awards shows. Where the heck is Miley's mom?


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Default  Posted: 9:50 AM, August 27th (Tuesday)

I just know that what she did was just vulgar and classless.

Agree 100%.

And I'm not sure if this is true or not, but I read an article this morning saying that Billy Ray is on the board of the PTC )Parent Television Council) so you have to wonder what shit he's taking right about now.

I get the whole shock value that some celebrities do, but this wasn't shock...it was crude and obscene. IMHO.


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Default  Posted: 9:51 AM, August 27th (Tuesday)

Where the heck is Miley's mom?

She was in the audience watching and once Miley finished, her mom stood up to give her a standing ovation


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Default  Posted: 9:57 AM, August 27th (Tuesday)

Robin Thicke's mother said "Well, I'll never be able to unsee THAT!"

She's shamelessly promoting her next album which I believe launches next Tuesday.

The record label is thrilled with all the free publicity.

As to Mr. Thicke (and as much as I like him as a singer) - ever really read those lyrics?

Sorry, but way above disgusting for me.

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Default  Posted: 9:57 AM, August 27th (Tuesday)

Eh. I can't help but sing along when Blurred Lines comes on the radio, but I don't think RT is the epitome of class himself.

And I agree with AJ about the lyrics. They're kind of, er, rapey.

I would cut off some of my toes to look like the brunette in the video though.

ETA again - as far as class - if you watch the video, in several scenes "ROBIN THICK HAS A BIG D***" is written in huge letters in the background. I can't imagine Miley scarred him for life or anything.

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Default  Posted: 9:59 AM, August 27th (Tuesday)

DD and I were watching the vma's. When Miley started "dancing" she said, "I'm disappointed in her" and changed the channel.

Well said DD.


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Default  Posted: 10:44 AM, August 27th (Tuesday)

What she did was fairly tame compared to the uncensored video for blurred lines. Wow.

It's the teddy bears that disturbed me. The juxtposition of those innocent stuffed bears and what she was doing was bizarre and oh so wrong. And the foam finger??? OMG

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Default  Posted: 10:47 AM, August 27th (Tuesday)

I totally want to go as one of those Teddy Bears for this Halloween.

Just strap a big honking one to my back, and BAM! Done!

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Default  Posted: 10:53 AM, August 27th (Tuesday)

I wasn't offended by the performance...I just thought she looked like an idiot. And apparently Robin raided Beetlejuice's closet. Or robbed a Foot Locker. Not sure which.

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Default  Posted: 11:03 AM, August 27th (Tuesday)

Don't you think it's sad when someone as young as Miley has to resort to such vulgar, tasteless performances to "get attention"?
I did not watch the VMA's, but sure heard about it first thing the next day on every source of media....so I guess in that respect she won out didn't she?
As for Robin Thicke, I feel sorry for his wife having to watch that sordid performance involving her husband....I'm sure she wasn't impressed either


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Default  Posted: 11:22 AM, August 27th (Tuesday)

movingforward, if she didn't have a problem with the video for the song, she wouldn't have had a problem with Miley's performance. I heard the video was her (his wife's) idea, but I'm not sure if that's true.


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Default  Posted: 11:26 AM, August 27th (Tuesday)

And apparently Robin raided Beetlejuice's closet

Thank you! I've been trying to figure out why his suit looked familiar.


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Default  Posted: 11:29 AM, August 27th (Tuesday)


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Default  Posted: 11:54 AM, August 27th (Tuesday)

Robin Thicke's mother said "Well, I'll never be able to unsee THAT!"

That is exactly what I thought too!!

She looked like she was in a soft porn video. I mean, she was humping a foam finger

The whole thing was just ick


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Default  Posted: 11:59 AM, August 27th (Tuesday)

I agree - the entire thing was ICK!

Shame on you Hannah Montana!

Sure there are a lot of 'cross the line' performers out there, but she has a entire generation of girls watching her from her TV days. Like it or not, a certain level of responsibility goes with that.

Edited to take out the Taylor opinion....I shall stay focused on the subject of Miley.

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Default  Posted: 11:59 AM, August 27th (Tuesday)

and for some reason her protruding tongue coming out time and again really grosses me out. ICK! But...if I were a writer on SNL I would be allll over that for my next skit!


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Default  Posted: 12:00 PM, August 27th (Tuesday)

I don't want to say what I thought of it as it probably violates the "no politics" rule... but think for a moment about what the teddy bears and simulated rimming could be construed as representing.

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Default  Posted: 12:14 PM, August 27th (Tuesday)


And I agree with AJ about the lyrics. They're kind of, er, rapey.
exactly.

I think most people have no idea what they are listening to. The song is disgusting. The video is disgusting. The whole world has become 'pornified', and stupid little fools like Miley don't even have clue what the lyrics mean.

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Nice, real nice.

"Blurred Lines"
(feat. T.I. & Pharrell Williams)

[Intro: Pharrell]
Everybody get up
Everybody get up
Hey, hey, hey
Hey, hey, hey
Hey, hey, hey

[Verse 1: Robin Thicke]
If you can't hear what I'm trying to say
If you can't read from the same page
Maybe I'm going deaf,
Maybe I'm going blind
Maybe I'm out of my mind
[Pharell:] Everybody get up

[Pre-chorus: Robin Thicke]
OK now he was close, tried to domesticate you
But you're an animal, baby, it's in your nature
Just let me liberate you
Hey, hey, hey
You don't need no papers
Hey, hey, hey
That man is not your maker

[Chorus: Robin Thicke]
And that's why I'm gon' take a good girl
I know you want it
I know you want it
I know you want it
You're a good girl
Can't let it get past me
You're far from plastic
Talk about getting blasted
I hate these blurred lines
I know you want it
I know you want it
I know you want it
But you're a good girl
The way you grab me
Must wanna get nasty
Go ahead, get at me
[Pharell:] Everybody get up

[Verse 2: Robin Thicke]
What do they make dreams for
When you got them jeans on
What do we need steam for
You the hottest bitch in this place
I feel so lucky
Hey, hey, hey
You wanna hug me
Hey, hey, hey
What rhymes with hug me?
Hey, hey, hey

[Pre-chorus: Robin Thicke]
OK now he was close, tried to domesticate you
But you're an animal, baby it's in your nature
Just let me liberate you
Hey, hey, hey
You don't need no papers
Hey, hey, hey
That man is not your maker
Hey, hey, hey

[Chorus: Robin Thicke]
And that's why I'm gon' take a good girl
I know you want it
I know you want it
I know you want it
You're a good girl
Can't let it get past me
You're far from plastic
Talk about getting blasted
[Pharell:] Everybody get up
I hate these blurred lines
I know you want it
I hate them lines
I know you want it
I hate them lines
I know you want it
But you're a good girl
The way you grab me
Must wanna get nasty
Go ahead, get at me

[Verse 3: T.I.]
One thing I ask of you
Let me be the one you back that ass to
Go, from Malibu, to Paris, boo
Yeah, I had a bitch, but she ain't bad as you
So hit me up when you passing through
I'll give you something big enough to tear your ass in two
Swag on, even when you dress casual
I mean it's almost unbearable
In a hundred years not dare, would I
Pull a Pharside let you pass me by
Nothing like your last guy, he too square for you
He don't smack that ass and pull your hair like that
So I just watch and wait for you to salute
But you didn't pick
Not many women can refuse this pimpin'
I'm a nice guy, but don't get it if you get with me

[Bridge: Robin Thicke]
Shake the vibe, get down, get up
Do it like it hurt, like it hurt
What you don't like work?

[Pre-chorus: Robin Thicke]
Baby can you breathe? I got this from Jamaica
It always works for me, Dakota to Decatur, uh huh
No more pretending
Hey, hey, hey
Cause now you winning
Hey, hey, hey
Here's our beginning

[Chorus: Robin Thicke]
I always wanted a good girl
(Pharell: Everybody get up)
I know you want it
I know you want it
I know you want it
You're a good girl
Can't let it get past me
You're far from plastic
Talk about getting blasted
I hate these blurred lines
(Pharell: Everybody get up)
I know you want it
I know you want it
I know you want it
But you're a good girl
The way you grab me
Must wanna get nasty
Go ahead, get at me

[Outro: Pharrell]
Everybody get up
Everybody get up
Hey, hey, hey
Hey, hey, hey
Hey, hey, hey


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Default  Posted: 12:44 PM, August 27th (Tuesday)

I wasn't offended by the performance...I just thought she looked like an idiot.

That's what I thought. I mean seriously, after Madonna and Lady Gaga and whatever, partial nudity and crotch grabbing and humping things is pretty lame as far as shocking the world goes. I think Toddlers in Tiaras has even covered most of that ground by now. So as far as being offensive, it is, but so is so much of what performers do these days to get attention. It's not even original-offensive, it's just lame.

But what really got me is that she wasn't even a good performer. She looked like a hyperactive uncoordinated kid jumping around trying to get their parents attention. She didn't even have any dance moves or choreography! I mean at least when Madonna wanted to shock us, she had a routine that went with it and it looked like she practiced it. Miley Cyrus was just randomly leaping around. It was embarrassing for her, even beyond doing it in her underwear and humping a foam thing.

Another thing? Her disgusting pasty tongue. That was one of the grossest tongues ever. It looked like a dehydrated panting dog tongue with the dried saliva. If she was trying to be sexy, didn't she at least look in the mirror to see if her tongue was pink? It was just... ewww. Like a corpse tongue.


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Default  Posted: 12:46 PM, August 27th (Tuesday)

re: her tongue. I wish she would put that thing away! It seems she has it out in every single "selfie" of her. Nobody wants to see that shit!


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Default  Posted: 12:47 PM, August 27th (Tuesday)

She looked like a tweaker. She needs a reality check.

I thought the same thing

BananaGirl13 and I watched a bit of it and early on, she said "Okay, this is totally ruining my childhood. I can't even" and stomped off.

Agreed. How freaking disturbing that whole thing was.


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Default  Posted: 12:49 PM, August 27th (Tuesday)

I suspect she may be doing Ecstasy. Check out her pupils at the VMA's:


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Default  Posted: 12:57 PM, August 27th (Tuesday)

Y'know, it makes me sad. Why is it that every popular song that seems to come out these days has lyrics calling women "bitches"? What IS this?

And the sad thing is that women and girls of today not only aren't offended by this, but they SING ALONG.

The women of my mother's generation that marched for equal rights and worked so hard to make sure that their daughters would have a better future would be (and probably are) puking their guts out or turning in their graves to see what the world has become for women now.


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Default  Posted: 1:02 PM, August 27th (Tuesday)

I just watched the video of her performance. Disgusting.

I happen to LOVE Blurred LInes. Yes, I've watched both versions of the video and I don't find it NEARLY as offensive as Miley's video for We Won't Stop (of is it Can't Stop?).

OMG, if you think Blurred Lines is bad, watch her video. Disturbing AND disgusting. After watching that video and reading that there are drug references in it ("dancing with molly" is some kind of slang for a drug) I believe she has taken a page out of Britney Spears handbook. I think she is going to self-destruct before she can start climbing back up. She's clearly on drugs, and promoting them in her work. I hope she finds her way back, but I fear that she's going to have to completely destruct like Britney before she'll even begin to clean up her act.

I think it's sad, because she IS talented. Shame that it's all going to waste.


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Default  Posted: 1:07 PM, August 27th (Tuesday)

But what really got me is that she wasn't even a good performer. She looked like a hyperactive uncoordinated kid jumping around trying to get their parents attention. She didn't even have any dance moves or choreography!

Amen! And she can't sing. But that's JMO...

Another thing? Her disgusting pasty tongue. That was one of the grossest tongues ever. It looked like a dehydrated panting dog tongue with the dried saliva. If she was trying to be sexy, didn't she at least look in the mirror to see if her tongue was pink? It was just... ewww. Like a corpse tongue.

Haha! Agreed.


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Default  Posted: 1:55 PM, August 27th (Tuesday)

But what really got me is that she wasn't even a good performer. She looked like a hyperactive uncoordinated kid jumping around trying to get their parents attention. She didn't even have any dance moves or choreography! I mean at least when Madonna wanted to shock us, she had a routine that went with it and it looked like she practiced it. Miley Cyrus was just randomly leaping around. It was embarrassing for her, even beyond doing it in her underwear and humping a foam thing.

100% this. So many talented performers out there and THIS is what gets air time?


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Default  Posted: 2:29 PM, August 27th (Tuesday)

This article explains how I kinda feel about it

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/26/dear-miley_n_3817375.html

I just thought it was...sad. I don't think it has anything to do with drugs, necessarily, and I'll defend some of her choices. I think her short hair looks great, when not done up in those ridiculous pigtails or whatever the hell those things were. And I'll even defend the flesh-coloured plastic bikini thing. She's 20 and at that age, my sister and I wore outfits to the club that didn't cover a whole lot more than that. And it's not like she's the first to wear something like that. Anyone remember Britney Spears's bedazzled flesh-coloured jump suit?

However, I saw her over the top, hyper-sexualized theatrics as very, very sad. To me, she seems a very talented young girl who has zero confidence in herself. Instead of letting her talent slowly and quietly pull her into adulthood, she's using her sexuality. Except she's too young to realize how desperate that looks.

Christina Aguilera did the same thing, at 22, with her "Dirrty" video.


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Default  Posted: 2:37 PM, August 27th (Tuesday)

Yup she's either faking going off the deep end, or she really has.

Look at that pic of her. She is so thin that her legs have no true tone, they certainly don't look like dancer legs. She has that gaunt look where her head is too big for her body.
I'm sorry but what she tried to pass as twerking was sad, that was just a little girl shaking her hiney.

It was a disaster from beginning to end. She sounded horrible, looked like a mental hospital escapee, and couldn't even really dance. At least with some of the other women mentioned here they can dance.

Yuck, yuck, yuck.

I love blurred lines, I's sorry but I don't see it as being demeaning to women, more as a statement of the woman he is singing about is strong, and making her own choices. No one is going to put her in her place. Just my thoughts.


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Default  Posted: 2:40 PM, August 27th (Tuesday)

I love blurred lines, I's sorry but I don't see it as being demeaning to women, more as a statement of the woman he is singing about is strong, and making her own choices
ditto.


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Default  Posted: 5:00 PM, August 27th (Tuesday)

I didn't even know backing your ass into some guys crotch HAD a name..........

And yeah...Miley sticking her tongue out was just stupid, weird and gross. I wonder if she will ever live it down.

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Default  Posted: 6:41 PM, August 27th (Tuesday)


Sorry, couldn't resist. I thought the whole number was classless - Miley and Thicke. She came off as a talentless idiot and looked like she was on something illegal. The whole thing was just yuck.


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Default  Posted: 12:31 AM, August 28th (Wednesday)

Look at this regarding Miley and her VMA appearance:

http://www.buzzfeed.com/daves4/things-miley-cyrus-looked-like-at-the-vmas


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Default  Posted: 12:57 AM, August 28th (Wednesday)

Oy vey, where to begin?

I didn't watch the VMAs. Thankfully, my boys have no interest in that stuff. What I saw, I saw online this morning, and I've been shaking my head since.

Back when I was a kid on the farm, when animals were in heat, they would behave much like Ms. Miley did last night, and that's the first thing that popped in my head. To me, she looked like a big old she-cat in heat, trying to mate with anything looking remotely mate-able.

Good thing I wasn't at the show - I would've been unable to hold back that uncontrollable urge to douse the girl with a bucket of cold water to cool her down a bit.

But the very, very, VERY worst thing had to be Miss Miley's Magical, Mesmerizing, Dancing Tongue. I will have nightmares over that tongue for weeks! Every time the girl moved, she opened up her mouth and FOOMP - THERE IT WAS! Waggling and twisting and gyrating as if IT WAS DANCING to the music! Maybe that's the point? Maybe we are supposed to be in AWE of Miley's Magical Tongue? Because it has better moves than her? Maybe? God, I don't know, but there HAS to be a point to it all...doesn't there? Or maybe it was a cry for help - maybe there's something wrong with it? Does it not fit in her mouth properly? It looks very, very large, but she appears to have some control over it, so it's not like she has to swing it over her shoulder to get around, you know? I just don't know WHY we were subjected to Miley and Her Dancing Tongue like that. It really hurt my eyes. Really. I need to lie down now.


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Default  Posted: 12:59 AM, August 28th (Wednesday)

There was something about this popping up all over my FB page today. Totally interesting point regarding how we were so quick to tear HER apart, but what about HIM??

Dr. Jill, a nationally recognized sexologist, speaker, writer, blogger, media personality, and activist, wrote this on her page:

[Dear Society,
If you think a woman in a tan vinyl bra and underwear, grabbing her crotch and grinding up on a dance partner is raunchy, trashy, and offensive but you don’t think her dance partner is raunchy, trashy, or offensive as he sings a song about “blurred” lines of consent and propagating rape culture, then you may want to reevaluate your acceptance of double standards and your belief in stereotypes about how men vs. women “should” and are “allowed” to behave.

Sincerely,
Dr. Jill

Pretty interesting point. I found them both offensive and just sort of ridiculous. And I'm not prude at ALL, not too easily offended. To me it was just garbage. But hey, they got a lot of publicity from this didn't they? My guess is that wasn't an accident.

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Default  Posted: 6:35 AM, August 28th (Wednesday)

Im not real fond of these people bc of this sort of behavior.

Her album comes out on Tuesday. She has to do something that stands out. What seems acceptable or at least gets the most attention is bad behavior. She succeeded in getting her recognition and possibly a few more record sales.

This was 20 yrs ago, but in H.S. I took a class on the history of the Arts. If I remember correctly, plays and being an actor were out lawed waaaaayyyyyyy back when because it was felt this group had questionable morals. The people in the times of the triple digit years were onto something.


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Default  Posted: 6:54 AM, August 28th (Wednesday)

Here's my opinion of the whole thing said better by someone else.

http://sexologist.tumblr.com/post/59399069155/a-sexologists-two-cents-on-the-2013-mtv-vmas

Dear Society,

If you think a woman in a tan vinyl bra and underwear, grabbing her crotch and grinding up on a dance partner is raunchy, trashy, and offensive but you don’t think her dance partner is raunchy, trashy, or offensive as he sings a song about “blurred” lines of consent and propagating rape culture, then you may want to reevaluate your acceptance of double standards and your belief in stereotypes about how men vs. women “should” and are “allowed” to behave.

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Default  Posted: 7:03 AM, August 28th (Wednesday)

slight t/j: There are a couple of pretty funny parodies of Blurred Lines out there...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKfwCjgiodg

and

http://vimeo.com/70304632


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Default  Posted: 7:45 AM, August 28th (Wednesday)

I think the fact that Robin Thicke didnt even TRY to touch her during his whole preformance speaks volumes on how he felt about her 'show'. Even when she grabbed him and licked his neck, he didn't bring his arm around or anything.

He never started any of the engagements with her, it was all Miley.

Also, the song, while still degrading women, does not promote rape. The lyric "imma take a good girl" just means that what he wants....like I take my dog on a walk, I take my husband on vacation, Take this woman to be your wife.

There are more lyrics in his song that give women the choice.

Look up the lyrics to a few of these:

Hootie Hoo by Outkast
Smack That by Akon
I Wanna Fuck You by Akon
Shake That Ass by Eminem and Nate Dogg
Bitches Ain't Shit But Hoes And Tricks by Dre, Snoop and two other guys
Wait Till You See My Dick (the whisper song) by Ying Yang Twins
No Hands by Waka Flocka
Wildflower by Ghostface Killah

Anyone remember the summer song "The Thong Song" by Cisco - not much uproar there but he "likes it when your bootie goooo"

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Default  Posted: 8:13 AM, August 28th (Wednesday)

Kelly Clarkson's comment was "Two words #PitchyStripper".

I'm not offended by the slutting it up factor. I get that it causes controversy, sells records, gets ratings. We get the media that we buy. It wouldn't happen unless we, the people, were consuming it.

But. It was terrible signing. Terrible dancing. Not arty. Not expressive. Not complex. Not intriguing.

It was just plain UGLY.

I know understand why the interwebz has invented the phrase "DAFUQ?".

She has to be on some hardcore drugs. None of that seemed rational - I've read things about it being a contrived, controlled spectacle but I don't know - I don't think you can fake that level of unbalanced - not even as a marketing ploy. It doesn't feel like a sell out - it feels like a break down.

Lada Gaga (who I do love) came across like some kind of Dalai Lama by comparison.


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Default  Posted: 8:27 AM, August 28th (Wednesday)

Also, the song, while still degrading women, does not promote rape.

I respectfully disagree. The song encourages men to disregards a woman's "no" to mean he should keep trying.

But the real point is, he and the song are as equally disgusting as her performance, but she - the woman - is getting all the hate and he is getting a pass.


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Default  Posted: 8:33 AM, August 28th (Wednesday)

All this publicity has her laughing all the way to the bank. She currently has 2 songs in the top 10 downloads.

Someone is buyin what she's sellin


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Default  Posted: 8:33 AM, August 28th (Wednesday)

This makes me so glad I never had kids to try to explain this to...


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Default  Posted: 8:39 AM, August 28th (Wednesday)

This is a really good article about the difference between what Miley did and what others, specifically Madonna have done in the past at the VMA's.


http://ideas.time.com/2013/08/27/pops-drop-from-madonna-to-miley/


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Default  Posted: 9:57 AM, August 28th (Wednesday)

Good article DS - I know some people think that if you didn't like her performance you are "old, prudish, etc." but as the article and so many others here have pointed out - it wasn't even performed well - where was the "talent" in what she did? Even my 17 DD was like "yuck". And don't get me started on that tongue - totally yuck for me - she just looks stupid. I could do without ever having to see her again and will do my best to avoid having to.

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Default  Posted: 10:02 AM, August 28th (Wednesday)

I thought I was watching some sort of demented mardi gras parade.

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Default  Posted: 10:03 AM, August 28th (Wednesday)

LOL @ kernal's post....


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Default  Posted: 10:22 AM, August 28th (Wednesday)

kernel - I nearly inhaled my lunch when I saw that side-by-side -

The tongue was really disgusting, along with the foam <cough> finger.


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Default  Posted: 10:34 AM, August 28th (Wednesday)

But the real point is, he and the song are as equally disgusting as her performance, but she - the woman - is getting all the hate and he is getting a pass.

Slut-shaming. When guys go to clubs and pick up a girl for a ONS they are back-slapped and told they have *game*, when a women does the same thing she is a whore/slut/trashy.

It's societies "boys will be boys" and girls should be "prim and proper". Which makes no sense, because then who are these men with *game* supposed to be having sex with?


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Default  Posted: 11:40 AM, August 28th (Wednesday)

I'm not laughing at her for looking like a slut. I'm laughing at her for looking like a fool.


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Default  Posted: 12:01 PM, August 28th (Wednesday)

Yeah, I don’t see this as slut shaming; the male equivalent to that performance would be a guy going to a party, naked save for a tube sock on his wang, doing the floppy wiener dance all night. Eye rape. Vulgar, desperate, gross, certainly not sexy.

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Default  Posted: 12:12 PM, August 28th (Wednesday)

Yeah, I don’t see this as slut shaming; the male equivalent to that performance would be a guy going to a party, naked save for a tube sock on his wang, doing the floppy wiener dance all night. Eye rape. Vulgar, desperate, gross, certainly not sexy.

His song is the verbal equivalent of her actions on stage. When Madonna first came on the scene she was also slut-shamed, she is *now* an artist, but back in the day she was not so well received or spoken of.


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Default  Posted: 12:21 PM, August 28th (Wednesday)


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Default  Posted: 12:30 PM, August 28th (Wednesday)

I guess I'm in the minority here, but honestly I don't see what all the hype is about. I get that she was a child star and to see her on stage doing those type of moves would be upsetting to the younger audience who were fans of Hanna Montana.

I think that's the hard part of being a child star is that when you grow up, you can never do anything "adult" because you will be torn down.

Yes, she has issues with drugs and doesn't look healthy anymore.

But I did not see anything that so bad with her performance because that song is basically talking about sex and she performed her part.

As I said I know I'm in the minority here, but its just my opinion.


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Default  Posted: 12:33 PM, August 28th (Wednesday)

I dont see it as slut shaming either. It was just freaking bad!!! She cant dance, it looked really awkward and just plan horrible. Dancing isnt everyone'e forte.
Fantasia was on stage with Jamie Foxx at the BET awards in 2006. But she sang with him, had WAY more finesse, and actually ended it by kissing him.

Miley just looked a hot mess...it didnt even really fit the song. She looked like the drunk friend at the party. The one where her girls cover their faces in horror and say "dammit, I knew we shouldnt have let her have that last drink..."


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Default  Posted: 12:42 PM, August 28th (Wednesday)

I guess I'm in the minority here, but honestly I don't see what all the hype is about. I get that she was a child star and to see her on stage doing those type of moves would be upsetting to the younger audience who were fans of Hanna Montana.
I think that's the hard part of being a child star is that when you grow up, you can never do anything "adult" because you will be torn down.

Yes, she has issues with drugs and doesn't look healthy anymore.

But I did not see anything that so bad with her performance because that song is basically talking about sex and she performed her part.

As I said I know I'm in the minority here, but its just my opinion.

I agree. The performance in and of itself wasn't well done or high quality choreography, but when pitted against the words of the song, she was *playing her part*.

She could have had moves that were sexier and not so bizarre, but that goes to talent not the quality of who she is as a person.


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Default  Posted: 12:44 PM, August 28th (Wednesday)

It doesn't feel like a sell out - it feels like a break down.

^^this^^

In my first response on this thread, I said she must have taken a page out of the Britney Spears handbook. I think she IS so lost trying to portray her "adult" persona, that she's gone waaaaaaayyy overboard. And her drug use is apparent. I agree 110% that this foreshadows a breakdown, not slut behavior for the sake of show.

As for the song, I said it before and I'll say it again: I happen to love it! I saw an interview with Robin Thicke when it first came out, and he said the song was meant to be a funny take on a bunch of older guys hitting on a younger hot chick. That's why you see TI doing the Fred Sanford bit in the video. And, Pharrel doing the "hey girl, come on over here" is a take on the older guys ogling hot girls like when they walk past a construction site. It was meant to be a fun, up-tempo song for the summer.

Everyone is entitled to their opinions, but I don't see the rape-force sex part in this at all. Just my $.02. I don't want to start a debate about the song; this thread is about Miley's outrageous performance, I think.


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Default  Posted: 12:44 PM, August 28th (Wednesday)

There is a simple, and horrible, message here for young girls.

You can be wholesome and *good* when you're young but you really should consider looking and acting like a ho when you're 20.

It not so much about what Cyrus does, it's the mixed message for younger girls.


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Default  Posted: 12:45 PM, August 28th (Wednesday)

I also happen to love the song. I think its funny, catchy and makes me just want to get up and dance.


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Default  Posted: 1:54 PM, August 28th (Wednesday)

I didn't watch the show. I did find a video online though because I wanted to see what everyone was freaking out over. I'm just glad my kids didn't see it.

My 8 yr old DD likes her old music. She has some of her music from when she was Hannah Montana. I won't let her listen to the new stuff.

I think the big difference between her, Madonna and some other singers is Miley has a huge following of younger girls. The whole thing was just nasty.


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Default  Posted: 3:08 PM, August 28th (Wednesday)

Honestly, had they gotten someone who was a little more coordinated/ sexy, I probably would have found the performance kind of hot...

Although sometimes it freaks me out how much Robin looks like Mr. Seaver...


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Default  Posted: 4:02 PM, August 28th (Wednesday)

I'm a fan of Big Freedia (New Orleans bounce music.) Miley's moves just weren't the same--they didn't have the joy of the body that you see at his/her concerts.


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Default  Posted: 4:06 PM, August 28th (Wednesday)

His song is the verbal equivalent of her actions on stage. When Madonna first came on the scene she was also slut-shamed, she is *now* an artist, but back in the day she was not so well received or spoken of.

I don't see it as slut shaming. Whoever that guy was (and I've never seen nor heard of him, and have never heard his song before watching the vid online) was just standing there either lip syncing or mumbling something. I couldn't hear the lyrics and it didn't seem to have much of a tune, so to me he just looked like Bloated Elvis in a bad suit, mumbling into a mic while a girl gyrated on him. He looked like a tool, but wasn't as far as I could see doing anything dirty or offensive. IMO, not knowing anything else about him, in the performance he nearly looked like a victim of her hyper awkward lunges.

I was a teen in the 80's and so I did see all the crazy crap Madonna did, but she was actually a really good dancer, choreographer and (for the times and her music) a fairly good singer, too. She put on a really well rehearsed show. She would work up a sweat and you could tell she was working her ass off. As far as I could tell Miley Cyrus isn't a singer or dancer, doesn't have a core talent to launch from and seemed to use the stage to essentially throw a fit while masturbating. When I was a teen Madonna's performances shocked me, but it also made me want to take dance lessons because she was an amazing dancer.

I used to think the same of Michael Jackson. Yeah, he crotch-grabbed and that was always gross, but man he was a good dancer and that "move" felt and looked deliberately choreographed. Compare that to the rappers and musicians who came after him who didn't dance at all, but just held their penis through their pants and squeezed once in a while while they were singing.


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Default  Posted: 4:22 PM, August 28th (Wednesday)

Fwiw, slut shaming isn''t referencing her performance, it''s referencing the fact that people are disgusted by her performance but are giving the guy a pass despite him being just as bad/guilty/involved in the performance. Slut shaming is referencing the fact that women doing that are bad, slutty girls but the men are all awesome bro you''re a stud. That is, a double standard.


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Default  Posted: 4:27 PM, August 28th (Wednesday)


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Default  Posted: 5:04 PM, August 28th (Wednesday)

giving the guy a pass despite him being just as bad/guilty/involved in the performance.

All I saw was the video clip of their vma performance, so I haven't seen whatever he did on stage that was the equivalent of her behavior, and don't want to.


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Default  Posted: 5:10 PM, August 28th (Wednesday)

They are both adults and should be ashamed of themselves. That performance was vulgar, inappropriate, and classless. I don't think it was more Miley than Thicke- if anything, he is older and should have known better.

The whole thing was very...yuck. Between the teddy bear, foam finger sexual innuendos, and the tongue-flailing- I don't know who choreographed that dance of hers and said, "yea, this will be hot" but that person needs to be fired.


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Default  Posted: 5:19 PM, August 28th (Wednesday)

I wish I could get my patients to stick their tongues out that well. You could probably look in her mouth and see her stomach forget the tonsils!!!

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Default  Posted: 5:22 PM, August 28th (Wednesday)

Didn't see it. Seeing the pics posted here is enough for me.

The song itself is catchy...but then it dawns on me which song it is and I change the station. Just can't listen to it.

BUT, the reason I hopped in is this:

I feel sorry for his wife having to watch that sordid performance involving her husband....I'm sure she wasn't impressed either

I heard a report that said RT's wife had no issues with the performance......


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Default  Posted: 7:37 PM, August 28th (Wednesday)

You wanna hug me
Hey, hey, hey
What rhymes with hug me?
Hey, hey, hey

The meaning and/or innuendos of the song aside, this is just... I have no words. And apparently, neither do the lyricists of this song. Mug me? Slug me? Fudge me????

Lots of catchy tunes have really idiotic or wtf or lyrics that are offensive or just plain ole don't make sense. I still think the macarena is sketchy and I have no idea what the hell they're saying.


Miley, Stop. Just stop. This was just a train wreck on sooo many levels, whether it be vulgarity, inappropriateness, coordination or entertainment in general. If I ever saw anyone "dancing" like that irl, I'd be tempted to push the furniture away and have a tongue depressor at the ready.

My lawn, get off it.

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Default  Posted: 8:51 PM, August 28th (Wednesday)

LOl at ajsmom's post. Hilarious!

I agree with this ...

it feels like a break down

It reminds me of Britney Spears - remember the haircut pics? This kind of has the same feel.


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Default  Posted: 10:15 PM, August 28th (Wednesday)

Sooo...... I am looking thru the TV listing this evening and I see that Disney is running one of the Hanna Montana movies I figure they made that deal months ago to coincide with Miley's release of her album and now they are regretting it.

Anyway, I chuckle and say something to DD16. She said she had not seen the VMA thing yet but heard A LOT about it. I said "It was gross and ick"

So DD starts to watch it, starting witht he dancing bear song thru the blurred lines song. Here is a sampling of her comments:

* (immediately) Is she on drugs? She looks like she is on drugs.

* What is she doing?

* I didn't know white girls could twerk...

* eww, why does she keep touching her vagina?

* Oh, she just took off her clothes

* o.m.g

* That is just gross

* Does she come back after the rap....oh, there she is...what is she doing??

And when it was over -- "That was a LOT worse than I imagine. What was that??"

Just thought I would share the reaction of someone who was, at one time, in her core audience.

I think Miley was trying to show the world that she was grown up and sexy, but she came off as raunchy and pathetic.

And I think the only thing that Robin Thick did wrong was book her to sing with him. It was a catchy and fun song that will forever be tainted by a weird chick humping a foam finger.

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Default  Posted: 11:39 PM, August 28th (Wednesday)

Madonna could dance. She could sing. I didn't agree with all of her subject matter, but she's an artist with a point of view and a musical/dance medium to express it. It has always been clear that Madonna has been authentic to who she is as an artist.

Even Lady Gaga is an artist. I definitely don't agree with her subject matter for most of her songs and pretty much all of her videos, but she's an obvious artist. When she's performing you can just look at her eyes and see she's being authentic.

I'm sorry, but I don't see artistic talent in the Miley VMA performance. I never watched her in her Hanna Montana days, I have no nostalgic sense of her or desire to keep her trapped as an innocent virgin. People grow up & have sex. Big whoop. Has nothing to do with one's artistic talent. I just didn't see any dance ability in the VMA performance. Also, the look on her face, in her eyes, was simply not authentic. Listen, I've just spent a very long time married to someone who was not authentic. I am now operating on a master's level for detecting people who aren't authentic. What I saw in the VMA performance was not authentic.

As for the Thicke guy, I don't even know WTH he is. The song y'all are talking about I refuse to listen to. It has a good beat, I like the tune, but the words are horrible so I won't listen. What he may or may not have done while Miley was on stage I cannot say, since her performance was so painful I stopped watching it. That's saying something, because I don't find much which is that upsetting. I even like Mapplethorpe, for goodness' sake!

I am an artist. I understand artists. The VMA gig was not art.


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Default  Posted: 11:55 PM, August 28th (Wednesday)

Okay, I just watched the Blurred Lines unrated video. Gratuitous nudity, definitely an exploitation of those beautiful girls, but you know what? Totally didn't offend me like the VMA performance did.


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Default  Posted: 12:10 AM, August 29th (Thursday)

And I think the only thing that Robin Thick did wrong was book her to sing with him. It was a catchy and fun song that will forever be tainted by a weird chick humping a foam finger.

^^Summed up perfectly^^

Here's one for Miley


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Default  Posted: 12:14 AM, August 29th (Thursday)

She's very late to that party. The hair is similar in outrage factor. Difference this was 1985 And the song is, well, at least catchy. I happen to like them, but then again my tastes can be a bit...eclectic.

Ain't nothin' new under the sun.

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Default  Posted: 7:46 AM, August 29th (Thursday)

All I saw was the video clip of their vma performance, so I haven't seen whatever he did on stage that was the equivalent of her behavior, and don't want to.

That's the thing he just STOOD there....didnt interact with her at all.

And look, the song is not all that great for women, we get that. But its not about raping anyone.

I would be willing to bet that at least at some point in everyones lives, they have had someone say to them "Come on, you know you want to"....and yet you still didn't do it.

There are songs out there that are WAY worse, but no one is flaming them here.

Here's part from Wait (the whisper song):

"Wait (The Whisper Song)"


Hey how you doin lil mama? lemme whisper in your ear
Tell you sumthing that you might like to hear
You got a sexy ass body and your ass look soft
Mind if I touch it? and see if its soft
Naw I'm jus playin' unless you say I can
And im known to be a real nasty man
And they say a closed mouth dont get fed
So I don't mind asking for head
You heard what I said, we need to make our way to the bed
And you can start usin' yo head
You like to fuck, have yo legs open all in da butt
Do it up slappin ass cuz the sex gets rough
Switch the positions and ready to get down to business
So you can see what you've been missin'
You might had some but you never had none like this
Just wait til you see my dick

THAT is just wrong...wrong wrong wrong.....

And RT's wife isnt mad because the RT looked uncomfortable on stage. She knew that he didnt care for all that business. It was totally obvious.

I think his unrated video is to much. I liked it better when the girls clothes were on.


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Default  Posted: 7:53 AM, August 29th (Thursday)

LOVE this:

http://youtu.be/rHdiutY4XqA


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Default  Posted: 8:23 AM, August 29th (Thursday)

http://fistintheair.com/2013/08/28/justin-bieber-ft-miley-cyrus-twerk/

Oh. My. God.

I feel so old

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Default  Posted: 8:30 AM, August 29th (Thursday)

DS, you are not the only one!


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Default  Posted: 8:38 AM, August 29th (Thursday)

Undefinabl3...

I think I'll "Squee" in agreement with you...afterall, that stupid word has just been officially submitted to the Webster Dictionary


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Default  Posted: 9:13 AM, August 29th (Thursday)

Fwiw, slut shaming isn't referencing her performance, it's referencing the fact that people are disgusted by her performance but are giving the guy a pass despite him being just as bad/guilty/involved in the performance. Slut shaming is referencing the fact that women doing that are bad, slutty girls but the men are all awesome bro you're a stud. That is, a double standard.

Exactly. He can write/perform a sexually explicit song and it's no big deal. A womean does it and BAM, slut shaming.

I'm not referencing her talent, she has no talent now nor did she as Hannah Montana. Madonna, Gaga and others have all been slut shamed at one time or another and they HAVE talent.

It's the double standard that creates and allows the slut shaming.



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Default  Posted: 9:18 AM, August 29th (Thursday)

To me, there are so many other things in the world to be offended/upset by...Miley Cyrus and her foam finger dance are the least of my concerns.

Animal abuse. Children being abused and exploited. Crime against the elderly.

*Those* are social issues that are not only offensive but despicable...imho. That's what I get offended and upset over.

Words to a song? A no talent spoiled brat making a fool of herself? Not such a big deal in my world


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Default  Posted: 9:26 AM, August 29th (Thursday)

Words to a song? A no talent spoiled brat making a fool of herself? Not such a big deal in my world

Agreed!


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Default  Posted: 8:02 PM, August 29th (Thursday)

I don’t think this display was an “accident”. It’s the ongoing transformation of the music industry into lower and lower depths…

Compare this lyric:

And I'm like
Baby, baby, baby ohh
Like
Baby, baby, baby noo
Like
Baby, baby, baby ohh
I thought you'd always be mine (mine)

To this lyric;

How many roads most a man walk down
Before you call him a man ?
How many seas must a white dove sail
Before she sleeps in the sand ?
Yes, how many times must the cannon balls fly
Before they're forever banned ?
The answer my friend is blowin' in the wind
The answer is blowin' in the wind.

The former lyric needed a team of SIX writers. SIX! (Justin Gärtner, Justin Bieber, Christopher Stewart, Terius Nash, Christopher Bridges, Christina Milian)

The later only needed Dylan.


I could have selected a “lesser” prophet but even Kiss lyrics are like literary gold compared to the crap being provided to the mass-produced stars of today.

Relatively few of today’s stars write their own music. Often they are added as co-writers simply as a form of payment (choose my song, I’ll give you co-writing fees). Basically they are finely polished instruments that preform what others select for them.

So you have an industry where writers combine to create formula-songs. They then need a formula-performer that can be molded to fit in with an image created by marketing and sales. So Miley began as a child-star, progressed to a Lolita-aged-barely-legal-semi-sex-symbol but still a teenage star. Now she’s grown out of that but because they always marketed her in a not-appropriate-for-her-age sexual light.

So now she’s too old for that – what next? Well why not the sexual vamp? And wasn’t that the ideal stage to present the new image?

All thought through. All planned. From skin-colored clothing, sexual innuendo, protruding lounge… Welcome to the new Miley Cyrus.

And if it doesn’t work out? Well the next American Idol, Teenage Star, The Voice, AGT….
Whatever candidate with looks, a voice and a willingness to do anything is waiting in the wings. Miley can join Brittney in suburbia.


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Default  Posted: 8:18 PM, August 29th (Thursday)

Bigger!!!!!

So great to see you!!! And I love your message


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Default  Posted: 8:43 PM, August 29th (Thursday)

Why yes as long as we are comparing those great lyrics from the 60's with today's shit how about this number one hit:

Shirley!
Shirley, Shirley bo Birley Bonana fanna fo Firley
Fee fy mo Mirley, Shirley!

Lincoln!
Lincoln, Lincoln bo Bincoln Bonana fanna fo Fincoln
Fee fy mo Mincoln, Lincoln!

That is just the first verse of the fabulous number one hit the Name Game from 1964. Yes we had some real winners back then.

Point being, every era has their pop 40 shit. There is some fabulous stuff out there now if you look in the right places.

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Default  Posted: 9:05 PM, August 29th (Thursday)

Shirley!
Shirley, Shirley bo Birley Bonana fanna fo Firley
Fee fy mo Mirley, Shirley!

Lincoln!
Lincoln, Lincoln bo Bincoln Bonana fanna fo Fincoln
Fee fy mo Mincoln, Lincoln!

Hey, that was the best jump rope chant when I was a kid (late 60s, early 70s)!


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Default  Posted: 9:10 PM, August 29th (Thursday)

Don’t get me wrong. Lots of good talent nowadays and lot’s of good music. I just selected two iconic texts (I don’t even listen too much to Dylan – too hippy for me). Could have pulled Coldplay or even Siguros…

And DS - good to be back!


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Default  Posted: 9:56 PM, August 29th (Thursday)

Don’t get me wrong.

I didn't...just playing. Besides, anytime I can pull out the lyrics to the Name Game I am all over it.


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Default  Posted: 11:22 PM, August 29th (Thursday)

A mans response. Just found this on the net.

“My little man isn’t old enough to read yet, but one day he will be, and one day I’ll give him this letter,” he said.


Dear son,

Don’t let Robin Thicke be a lesson to you.

Don’t let any of these pigs and perverts you see on TV be a lesson to you. They treat women like garbage; they possess no chivalry, no self control; they are disloyal and dishonest; they spend all day pursuing pleasure at the expense of others, and they encourage you to do the same. You might be tempted to follow suit. In fact, you WILL be tempted. These male pop stars and celebrities, look at them, you’ll think. They take advantage of emotionally broken, self loathing, confused young women, and they are rewarded handsomely for it. Look at their nice clothes and their nice cars. Look how they are admired and loved. Look, they treat women like trash and other women fawn all over them because of it. This must be how real men behave, you’ll think.

And you’ll be wrong. You’ll be wrong about a lot of things in life — this is what it means to be human — but never will you be more wrong than when you feel the temptation to buy the lies that pop culture sells about the nature of true masculinity. Son, there is nothing glamorous or fun about being a man of low character and no integrity. What you see on TV is a facade. It’s a sales pitch. It’s poison. You see the bright lights and the sexy women, but you don’t see what happens when the cameras are off and these pop culture gods return to their lives as mere mortals. You don’t see them in their big, empty, lonely houses. You don’t see the emptiness in the pit of their souls. You don’t see all the alcohol and drugs they have to use to dull the pain of living a life devoid of real, committed relationships. You don’t see the hatred they have for themselves and for humanity. You don’t see the jealousy they have towards normal, decent men.

Your dad is no celebrity. He’s just an average, boring guy. But he’s got something that every famous and non-famous womanizer envies: He’s got the love and commitment of ONE beautiful, smart, faithful woman. He’s got your mom, and he’ll only have your mom until the day he dies. He ought to be waking up every day shouting praises to the Lord because of that.

Listen, son, don’t let the world tell you how to be a man. They don’t know anything about the subject.

Men are loyal. Men are honest. Men respect and honor women. A man goes out and finds one woman, and he vows to protect and love her for the rest of his life. A man would never betray that vow. Even the weakest and most cowardly man — if he is a man at all — would die for the woman he loves. Your dad is no hero, but let someone try to hurt your mom and watch him suddenly turn into Superman (or Batman, whichever you prefer).

See, son, you don’t have to be big and strong to be a man, although I think you will be one day. You don’t have to be “cool” or athletic. You don’t have to play guitar or fix cars. These are all fine things, but they don’t define a man. A man is defined by how he treats women, by how he keeps his promises, and by how he protects and serves the ones he loves. That’s what makes a man a man. My dad taught me that, he taught it by example. I pray I can do the same for you.

Oh, and by the way, if I ever catch you disrespecting women, I will sit you down and talk to you about it. But first I’ll kick your butt up and down the street. That’s a promise.

Love,

Your old man

It's going viral.

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Default  Posted: 11:51 AM, August 30th (Friday)

I'd never heard the term "slut shaming" until this incident.

Now I've added it to my vocabulary, so I'm going to score the whole thing as a win.


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Default  Posted: 11:58 AM, August 30th (Friday)

I was listening to a couple of DD20's friends discuss this-did not see it. They think Miley is an attention whore. And then one of them asks "am I the only one who thinks she looked like Cynthia the doll from rugrats?"

I'm glad these kids see it, makes me a little less fearful about our future leaders.


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Default  Posted: 2:57 PM, August 30th (Friday)


..i have to wonder if Miley has ever watched Fred Astair and Ginger Rogers dance and sing????

.. and they didn't need no foam finger to do it!

..i realize, that was then, this is NOW..

..sadly, sex sells and she knows it.. what are the 8+ year olds saying about it??

..school's back in next week.. kids can write some essays on the topic for English class..

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Default  Posted: 3:30 PM, August 30th (Friday)

Isn't it showbiz though?

I think she's actually brilliant compared to others. To me it was an act, a show and nothing else.

I don't understand all the fuss.


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Default  Posted: 4:41 PM, August 30th (Friday)

Could you imagine doing something, or making a fool of yourself, and then someone saying "Freak show!" or all the other things that are written on the internet?

The OP here is anonymous, and so I don't mean to offend you in any way. I am just using this as an example. I might have done the exact same thing!

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Default  Posted: 5:16 PM, August 30th (Friday)

You know board pearl, I'm trying to imagine bending over and grinding Beatlejuice but it just isn't working for me.

I get your point and actually agree with some of what your saying. I think the internet can get carried away with the hate...but we all know that including Miley and her people. I'm sure they had a very good handle on the stir this would cause and had to know that it would burn the internet up. If not, well someone needs to get fired. I personally think this twenty year old kid needs some help. That was sad and hard to watch...not a good thing.


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Default  Posted: 5:30 PM, August 30th (Friday)

I think having us old folks call it a Freak Show was entirely the point. I have to agree with Bigger about the current celebritards. All of those national TV karaoke contests throw people into every genre of music possible because they are not looking for artists, they want the entertainment version of tofu.

Now, just because almost all entertainment is improved with the addition of Breaking Bad.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UUD3zyu7Ek
Hank and Marie watch the VMA.


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Default  Posted: 5:30 PM, August 30th (Friday)

I think having us old folks call it a Freak Show was entirely the point. I have to agree with Bigger about the current celebritards. All of those national TV karaoke contests throw people into every genre of music possible because they are not looking for artists, they want the entertainment version of tofu.

Now, just because almost all entertainment is improved with the addition of Breaking Bad.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UUD3zyu7Ek
Hank and Marie watch the VMA.


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Default  Posted: 5:38 PM, August 30th (Friday)

Aesir. Now we are talking entertainment my friend. Finally I see the point of that whole performance...thank you and have an A1 day.


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Default  Posted: 6:42 PM, August 30th (Friday)

Exhibit 1 on how to go from pretty to looking like a she-male porn ad in two years.

Awful.

Sad part is her stock just went up 100%.


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Default  Posted: 7:02 PM, August 30th (Friday)

Isn't it showbiz though?

I think she's actually brilliant compared to others. To me it was an act, a show and nothing else.

I don't understand all the fuss.

I thought showbiz was for people to perform for others' enjoyment. I don't care about her sexuality, but the fact that she was a really, really bad singer and dancer was pretty newsworthy during an evening dedicated to those with talent.

Picture one of the keynote speakers showing up to your college graduation, and they were drunk and illiterate, slurred through a speech and then belched in the microphone - and then the next day, instead of talking about all the people who achieved something, the only coverage was of the drunk, illiterate speaker.

I think being fussed about someone demonstrating that little respect for their profession is completely appropriate. And I think people should shame her for not apparently practicing or caring about the quality of her performance. It should have been an honor to perform in front of so many more accomplished people, but she made it a joke, and made the winners' evening about herself. I think people with 'fame' get a pass on awful behavior that normal people would be justifiably censured for. It's not bullying to let someone know when they're being rude, entitled and disrespectful.


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Default  Posted: 8:47 PM, August 31st (Saturday)

Hank and Marie watch the VMA.

Oh, thank link was excellent!


Here is another one, commentary on the "Why is Miley 'crazy', 'trashy', etc., and Robin Thicke is not?" in a great song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=O2zbxM4EehE


ETA:

Lyrics:

We want topless women in our music videos
We want pop stars acting like they're in a porno
You know we want it and we gettin' what we ask for
But when Miley does it we say "Oh my God No!!"

Why's she acting like a ho, this is so wrong, we all object
Where did she get the idea to act like a sexual object?
I suspect she is on drugs, I think she's losing her mind
Did you see her shaking her ass on TV, singing "Blurred Lines"
Which is such a wholesome song, I can't believe she ruined it
Her slutty moves made Robin Thicke look misogynistic
What a bitch, she makes me sick, doesn't she have ethics?
How dare she try to use sex to sell pop music!

We want topless women in our music videos
We want pop stars acting like they're in a porno
We want it and we always get what we ask for
But when Miley does it we say "Oh my God No!!"

The line's no longer blurred you crossed it and upset the nation
Don't get us wrong, we're super cool with objectification
But it's hard to watch you play that part, we've know you for too long
So please go back to singing the Hannah Montana theme song
And we'll go back to watching others do exactly what you did
And we won't be offended cause we can not picture them as kids
And we'll be cool with videos with women prancing around naked
And it won't be sexist as long as the song's a number 1 hit

We want topless women in our music videos
We want pop stars acting like they're in a porno
We want it and we gettin' what we ask for
But when Miley does it we say "Oh my God No!!"

Miley, oh Miley.
You're upsetting everybody
By being so slutty,
Unlike all the other pop stars....

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Default  Posted: 3:45 AM, September 1st (Sunday)

Late to party, but I think Miley acted like a pig. I think she was so over the top in wanting everyone to know she's grown up that she went too far.

We get it, we got it with tats and crazy haircut. I was not impressed. She seems like a talentless joke now.



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Default  Posted: 7:09 AM, September 1st (Sunday)

Pretty much sums it up!


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Default  Posted: 9:37 PM, September 11th (Wednesday)

Sorry to resurrect this topic, but this video is HILARIOUS!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tP-sJJHzDQ

Parody of Miley's "We Can't Stop". OMG - HILARIOUS!


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Default  Posted: 5:06 AM, September 12th (Thursday)

I just read a headline on Yahoo that said something about Miley Cyrus, a see-through dress and no underwear. Didn't read the article, just saw it as I was getting to SI.

I couldn't help but think, if everyone stopped paying attention and writing about her, wouldn't she just stop?

(Not here, I mean the internet, tabloids, tv, etc.)


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Default  Posted: 7:59 AM, September 12th (Thursday)

Here's another funny video - now off to watch the Breaking Bad video!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZbHm4IgiZY

Star Trek reacts to Miley.


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Default  Posted: 8:02 AM, September 12th (Thursday)

It's so true to formula it's maddening. They (and there have been so many of them) need to shed their Disney image to get the fanbase and longevity they want. So they whip out the unbridled sex kitten routine, shock the crap out of everyone and get fans in the kids who are just old enough to want to go against everything their parents tell them. It's nauseating, but marketable and it happens over and over.

As for the performance itself.. what struck me the most was she can't sing .. not live anyway. She sounded awful. So we were left with gyrating, butt shaking, and teddy bears. Whoop-dee-doo Miley. It would suck to have your only marketable talent be that.
Multi Million Dollar paydays aside, I imagine even within the entertainment community, there would be disdain from ACTUAL musicians for those who need a freakshow and gratuitous sex to get any attention at all. She and others like her have to know they have no real skill.
It's the Paris Hilton effect. If all else fails, shock the shit out of people to be relevant.

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Default  Posted: 8:07 AM, September 12th (Thursday)

It's the Paris Hilton effect. If all else fails, shock the shit out of people to be relevant.

Yep!


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NaiveAgain
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Default  Posted: 8:22 PM, September 12th (Thursday)

It makes me sad. Honestly, Miley didn't come up with that routine. She has handlers, agents, make-up artists, choreographers, a whole team that handles the brand "Miley."

So when they come up with the idea of her dancing around half naked with her tongue out and huge teddy bears prancing around the stage, she does it, because she wants to be a star and make lots of money. She is addicted to the fame, the power of celebrity, and trying to find love and attention in whatever way she is being raised to find it.

It is an empty life, full of pretty things and screaming fans that will pay money for a napkin you spit in, but not much in the way of true or deep love, appreciation, and real emotions/feelings.

And the fact that she is obviously performing other people's work and ideas makes the entire performance empty and lacking. I don't see a pretty future ahead for her unless someone intervenes for her and helps to ground her to real life.


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