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gypsybird87
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Default  Posted: 4:34 PM, October 2nd (Wednesday)

I was not XWH's first betrayed partner. I knew that, to a certain degree, while we were together. But since D-day etc a lot more info has come to light.

He cheated on his very first girlfriend with the woman who became his first wife and the mother of his five children. I sort of knew about this, but he spun it differently (of course) and I believed him.

He then cheated on said first wife and mother of the kids. I suspected this a few years ago, but now the XW is holding nothing back. She's told all the kids recently, "Now you're seeing first hand what an asshole your dad is, and I'm not hiding anything for him anymore."

After they divorced he was briefly alone and then met a woman online. He dated her/lived with her for four years. Guess who he used to cheat on her? Me. Though I didn't know it at the time.

And now he's cheated on me and left me for OW. I can only imagine that the same thing will happen with that relationship, because up to this point in life he's cheated in EVERY relationship he's had. His pathetic life is on some sort of f*cked repeat cycle, over and over. Only the players change. Never him. He never, NEVER changes and I'm convinced he never will.

I'm just curious how many of you, like me, found themselves victim to a serial cheater. And does it make you feel better (since clearly this is HIS issue and had little to do with me personally), or worse... (because how did I not see this guy for what he really was??)

I go back and forth, feeling validated one day, and like the worlds biggest sucker the next. It depends on my state of mind, I guess. And lately my state of mind hasn't been great.

Thanks for reading...

((HUGE HUGS)) to you all. I would be really lost without this board lately.


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Him: Someone else's problem

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Posts: 749 | Registered: May 2013 | From: Oregon
Tripletrouble
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Default  Posted: 4:38 PM, October 2nd (Wednesday)

We were young when we started dating (early-mid. 20's) but I recognized he had had poor boundaries, even if I didn't know the term or the implications. I almost didn't marry him because of it. Now I'm surprised and sad at how intuitive I was for being so young, and that I didn't trust my own judgement.

ETA hugs to you too

[This message edited by Tripletrouble at 4:39 PM, October 2nd (Wednesday)]


40 somethings - me BW after 20 years
D Day April 2013
Divorced November 2013

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Posts: 633 | Registered: May 2013
SBB
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Default  Posted: 4:59 PM, October 2nd (Wednesday)

The sad clown cheated on every single girlfriend he's ever had except the one who beat him to it.

Of course I didn't find that out until years later. It always bothered me that he smirked when talking about it.

I asked him why and he gave a different reason for each one. It was what I now know to be the usual bullshit crap. Mainly problems in the relationship and he 'fell in love' with someone else. I asked him if he thought there was something wrong with him - the women were all so different as were the relationship problems. Nope - just fell in love. You can't stop love now, can you?

Stupid me didn't even see the dots let alone connect them.

I knew he was capable of it I just didn't think he would do it. To.Me. Wife. Mother of his children. No way.

I was special, dontcha know.
http://psychopathyawareness.wordpress.com/2011/12/20/a-vain-fantasy-his-one-true-love-the-exception-that-confirms-the-rule/

Now OWUmpteen gets to be special! I suspect she has already beaten him to it though.


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Posts: 5535 | Registered: Apr 2012 | From: Australia
Nature_Girl
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Default  Posted: 5:00 PM, October 2nd (Wednesday)

No, I'm not the first.


Me = BS (Stay-at-home-mom)
Him = EX-d out (abusive troglodyte NPD SA)
3 tween-aged kids
Together 20 years
D-Day: Memorial Weekend 2011
2013 - I DIVORCED HIM, I'M FREE!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBOJpIwF47Y

Posts: 9536 | Registered: Jun 2011 | From: USA
h0peless
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Default  Posted: 5:04 PM, October 2nd (Wednesday)

We were each others' first serious relationship so yeah, I was the first. I'm not the last. When I was still snooping on her, I saw that she was having an ongoing online EA with some dude who she thought was from Australia (really Ohio, though. Thanks, Spokeo!) while she was with her New Dad.

Posts: 1657 | Registered: Sep 2012 | From: Baja Arizona
StillLivin
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Default  Posted: 5:11 PM, October 2nd (Wednesday)

I'm not the first either. I knew about only one, and he was young, admitted to poor boundaries and corrected the error of his ways. His second wife, later found out after M that she was the OW during his first M, cheated on him. He was crushed and broken. Along comes StillLivin to the scene. Watched him carefully to see if he truly got the boundaries for the first 2 years.
Yep, married him. M was good for the first couple of years. He adored me and constantly craved my attention.
Fast forward, here I am. I KNOW WSs that have changed, mine just wasn't one of them.
Uhgggg, I've never even cheated on a boyfriend when I was single and never looked at another man after I got married.


I don't need further confirmation of what a fuckwit he is. I already have plenty, thanks very much. -SBB
D: 7/2/2014

Posts: 2213 | Registered: Aug 2013 | From: AZ
Whalers11
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Default  Posted: 5:14 PM, October 2nd (Wednesday)

My ex told me before we started dating that he cheated on every single girlfriend he ever had. I should have run then, but I was 17, stupid, and thought it would be different with me. (Also, he made it sound like none of his prior relationships were very serious...)

He had a girlfriend when I met him. I was very clear that we would not "date" until that relationship was over. I now have reason to believe there was some overlap in our relationships and that I may have been the OW for a bit...


Me: BGF - 33
Together 11+ years - not married, no children.
D-Day: 2/9/2010
OC Born: 10/9/2010
Status: He chose OW/OC and left immediately.

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newlysingle
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Default  Posted: 5:26 PM, October 2nd (Wednesday)

I really don't know. I'm pretty certain that he was single when I met him. He was new to the area where I met him. I've never heard anything not has ha ever admitted to cheating on anyone else.

I agree with others though, they he exhibited a lack of boundaries early on. I should have gotten a clue.


BW - Me (37)
XWH - (37) The Gnat
OW - Some dumb whore he picked up in another state and moved here here. Known as Hello Kitty.
M for 8 years, together for 10
1 DD (5), 1 DS (1 year)
Dday 3/13
Divorced 9/20/13

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Dreamboat
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Default  Posted: 5:42 PM, October 2nd (Wednesday)

Sadly, he was cheated on by his first girlfriend -- she slept with his best friend. So he understood the pain and still did it. Asshole!!!!


And it's hard to dance with a devil on your back
So shake him off
-- Shake It Out, Florence And The Machine

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peridot
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Default  Posted: 5:55 PM, October 2nd (Wednesday)

I don't know if he had ever cheated on anyone else. He didn't talk about his past relationships. We were in our early 20s when we met. I do know that he and the OW have cheated on each other.


I think...therefore, I'm single.

It is what it is.


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hurtbs
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Default  Posted: 6:22 PM, October 2nd (Wednesday)

My ex has never left a relationship without a new one lined up. He was the OM to a MOW once.

In all scenarios he was the victim.


Me BW Him XSAWH
DDays 2006, and then numerous more
Divorced 2012

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Take2
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Default  Posted: 6:29 PM, October 2nd (Wednesday)

The fiance before me, (I was told they cheated on each other, regretted it deeply and learned from it...) Maybe he just learned to cover his tracks better... He cheated on me, multiple times. He cheated on the OW he left the M for (before Dday) and a subsequent gf. He is living with somebody now... any one want to lay down bets...?


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cayc
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Default  Posted: 6:54 PM, October 2nd (Wednesday)

xWH was never not cheating on whoever was the girlfriend or wife. OW#umpteen gets the pleasure of being wife number 4 (while xWH just turned 40). Hmm, wonder how that''s going to work out?

He conned me because I''m a nice, honest person who doesn''t suspect that people are liars and cheaters because I''m not. He conned me because I was loving and giving and supportive and tried to work with him and compromise. He conned me because of all of my good qualities. Qualities that I''m proud of. He didn''t con me because I''m weak. So I''ve nothing to be embarrassed about. Most especially because once I found out what he really was? I divorced him immediately and for over a year have deflected every single avenue he''s used to try and contact me. Fucker.


"The difference between involvement and commitment is like ham and eggs. The chicken is involved, the pig is committed." -Martina Navratilova
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Abbondad
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Default  Posted: 7:08 PM, October 2nd (Wednesday)

I was not the first. Now that I've time to gain perspective on my STBXWW's relationships before me, there is a clear pattern: from a very young age she would be with someone, would meet someone else, immediately attach, detach from the other, and so on. Her relationships overlapped like this for years--she was NEVER alone--until she married me.

I guess with me it just took longer. Amazing that I never saw the bloody red flags that waved in my face.

Attachment issues for sure. Attach, detach, attach, detach.... And I assume it will continue with her current POS unless she realizes she has serious problems and goes into deep extended therapy. But in any case, not my problem any more.


Divorced April Fool's Day 2014

Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
-Dune


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ruinedandbroken
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Default  Posted: 7:38 PM, October 2nd (Wednesday)

Yes because I was his first girlfriend and he was my first boyfriend. We were really young.


“People who cheat feel that life is for the taking, and that everyone deserves happiness no matter what the cost. I must remember these tricks if I ever have my soul surgically removed."
Me: BS 42. Him: WH 41 2 Kids 6&9
Married 14 yrs Together 21

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gypsybird87
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Default  Posted: 9:47 PM, October 2nd (Wednesday)

Thanks for all the responses. This:

My ex has never left a relationship without a new one lined up

is my XWH exactly too. In all his adult life he's only been alone for a couple of months. That was right after his first wife kicked him out. He always described that as "the darkest time" in his life. I thought it was because his marriage was ending and he was losing his kids. Now I think it had nothing to do with that. It was horrible for him because he was alone, and he couldn't stand it. Other than that brief period, ALL of his relationships have overlapped.

It's really sad when you think about it. I don't like being alone but at least I know that I can do it if I have to. He can't, and so he makes sure that he's never in that situation.

It makes me realize how much stronger I am than him.


Me: Enjoying life
Him: Someone else's problem

Rock bottom became the solid foundation on which I rebuilt my life. ~ JK Rowling


Posts: 749 | Registered: May 2013 | From: Oregon
NewMom0220
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Default  Posted: 10:07 PM, October 2nd (Wednesday)

I was not the first. After DDay his sister told me that his mean, awful, terrible, cold, callous, heartless ex-wife (he was married for like a year in his early 20's) probably found out he cheated on her and she left. She left immediately.

Now I'm the mean, awful, terrible, cold, callous, heartless ex-wife, or at least that is how he painted me once I found out about his A. And no doubt OW heard about just how awful I am.

[This message edited by NewMom0220 at 10:09 PM, October 2nd (Wednesday)]


Me: BS 36
Him: WS 37
14 month old DS
Married 5 years, together 8, DIVORCING!!! (taking forever)
DDay: 3/1/13 (4 Month PA while I was pregnant)
Sometimes all you have to do is forget what you feel and remember what you deserve.

Posts: 352 | Registered: Apr 2013
sunsetslost
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Default  Posted: 10:50 PM, October 2nd (Wednesday)

Yes, the first. Infidelity was a deal breaker for me. This was discussed early in our courtship. She told me that even after what shed been through in a series of bad relationships she never dishonored her partner. I believed her. It just takes a nice guy to unleash the bad girl, I guess. Wish I'd have treated her like shit.


Divorced 7/11/14. New Beginning on the Gulf of Mexico. It's real nice.

Posts: 734 | Registered: Jul 2013 | From: The beach.
Weatherly
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Default  Posted: 7:17 AM, October 3rd (Thursday)

My ex has never left a relationship without a new one lined up

Mine either.

He was my first real boyfriend, but, he had a girlfriend before me. We saw each other a few times before meeting, and he spent a lot of time staring, but that was it. He told me, he had a gf at that time, and someone else told her that he had a crush on me, and he claimed that was why she broke up with him, for liking me, even though we hadn't met. At 17, I thought "crazy, jealous chick." Eventually, I found out, while he and this girl dated all through high school, every time they had an argument, he went out with other girls. He had about 15 "one week"girlfriends throughout the 4 years they were together. Now, I wonder if she was completely reasonable in her reaction.

He replaced me several times before I kicked him out. And, since then, he's never been alone. He's had about 20 break up in the last 5 years, but, he's never been single.


Me-29,Two boys, 10 and 8

It will all be ok in the end. If it's not ok, it's not the end

Happily remarried to a wonderful man (Aussie). I think I found the right guy and the right finger this time.


Posts: 4485 | Registered: Feb 2008 | From: Indiana
Lola2kids
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Default  Posted: 7:41 AM, October 3rd (Thursday)

I think I was the first.
He was my first everything.
He was married before and she cheated on him.
I thought he would never do that to me. I was wrong.

His ex wife told me that he was an asshole to her. It's her justification for the affair but I tend to believe her having lived with the asshole myself.
Apparently once she had caught him with some girl at a party off alone with his hand down her shirt. He said he was drunk.
It puts a lot of questions into my mind. Has he done it before? Probably.

Not my problem anymore.

[This message edited by Lola2kids at 7:42 AM, October 3rd (Thursday)]


BS: (Me) 47
Kids: twins DD(10)
WS: Him 49 (Together 12 years)
D-Day April 18, 2011, Him:out Sept. 11, 2011..moved June 27, 2014.
"They say that absence makes the heart grow fonder but I am growing more and more fond of his absence"

Posts: 1364 | Registered: Jul 2011 | From: Ontario, Canada
Ashland13
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Default  Posted: 4:29 PM, October 3rd (Thursday)

Yes, I was the first and then he cheated on OW with me.


Ashland 13

A person is a person, no matter how small. -Dr. Suess

Perserverance and spirit have done wonders in all ages.

-George Washington


Posts: 2204 | Registered: Feb 2013 | From: New England
ideservebetter45
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Default  Posted: 6:09 AM, October 4th (Friday)

I was his third wife. He cheated on and left all 3 of us and 6 children all together. The tears and remorse he showed when he talked about the first 2 was all bullshit. ..a leopard doesn't change its spots..

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