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miadianna
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Default  Posted: 10:49 AM, November 4th (Monday)

I knew this day was coming. He texted my daughter last night and told her he was getting married and he wants my son to play guitar at his wedding and my daughter to sing!

She said "Mom, I cannot do this. I cannot go to this or be any part of it." I said "Well, tell him." and she did. Then the crazy started. He doesn't understand why and thinks everyone should be happy for him. She ended up having to block his number and OW's number. She never gave OW her phone number and is mad about that too. This is abuse. Her own father. Makes me sick.

[This message edited by miadianna at 10:59 AM, November 4th (Monday)]


Me: BS 53
Son: 27 years old
Daughter: 25 years old
D-day(s) 9/23/94 - 1/31/05
Divorced 4/10/08

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ajsmom
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Default  Posted: 10:55 AM, November 4th (Monday)

Still delusional after all these years I see.

What a tool.

AJ's MOM


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nowiknow23
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Default  Posted: 10:59 AM, November 4th (Monday)

Sending you all a huge hug. ((((miadianna & kids))))


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HurtsButImOK
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Default  Posted: 12:08 PM, November 4th (Monday)

Hugs to you, DS and DD.

They never seem to see their horribleness for what it is. Totally selfish behaviour (whining voice with accompanying violins) "but it makes me happy, why aren't you happy for me"


Me: Awesome - 35

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DeadMumWalking
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Default  Posted: 12:10 PM, November 4th (Monday)

((((miadianna & kids))))

What a self-centered asshole. No consideration AT ALL for his own children.

Yeah, they really want to make music to celebrate the bitch that broke up their family.

ASSHOLE.

((((miadianna & kids))))


Me (BS), Him (WH): early 50's
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M: 24 (19 1/2 at Dday), Together 29
Dday: Dec 2008
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osxgirl
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Default  Posted: 2:50 PM, November 4th (Monday)

Hmmm.... I think if I were her, I would change tactics and tell Dad that she is excited to help out with their "special" day, and that she is working on a wonderful rendition of "Your Cheatin' Heart" to celebrate their love.


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miadianna
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Default  Posted: 3:11 PM, November 4th (Monday)

When she texted back she had no interest in being a part of it, he wrote back "Well maybe you could do a reading? A poem or something? I will leave a spot open for you." She replied it wasn't necessary, she will not be coming and he wrote back "WHAT GIVES!!!?" Then went on a text ramble about how he doesn't know what she has against OW because she had "little or nothing" to do with our divorce and it was all him because he said "it was time." (Except I have the messages and pics of her being a huge part, sorry fool) I'll never forget when he threw himself a birthday party, she didn't go and he called her and yelled "You are supposed to make me feel special, I want to feel special, it's my birthday!!!" Yeah almost 55 years old.

This is from a man who never once visited his kids since he left in 2005 and never once came to see her at college (4 years!) and she went to school in our city, she wasn't far away. What a parent failure.

She wrote "Believe me, since you left we are all better off. I know a lot of things that you and many people don't know I know." Then she blocked some phone numbers on her phone. Done.

Part of the confusion for him is he has no idea I knew he was cheating and have folders full of instant messages, photos, and emails. I've never told him I knew, I have no contact with him. They've been lying and spinning the story around to people that they met a year after we separated. I just let him look like the fool he is. His whole family believes it too.


Me: BS 53
Son: 27 years old
Daughter: 25 years old
D-day(s) 9/23/94 - 1/31/05
Divorced 4/10/08

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sparkysable
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Default  Posted: 3:15 PM, November 4th (Monday)

he wants my son to play guitar at his wedding and my daughter to sing!
He is delusional! And then he's shocked when his kids aren't excited about this blessed event!?

It would be one thing if the two of you decided that things weren't working out between you in a mutual agreement, and then later on met someone and was getting married.

Sorry, but when you marry the OW, you don't get to enjoy the same well wishes. But they expect it. I don't get it.


D-day OW#1 2/2004; R for 6 years; D-day OW#2 5/2010

Marriages that start this way, stepping over the bodies of loved ones as the giddy couple walks down the aisle, are not likely to last.


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Skan
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Default  Posted: 3:25 PM, November 4th (Monday)

Well, in the unlikely chance that your children change their minds, I would suggest that they choose one of the songs from this playlist: http://www.chartattack.com/features/2010/08/30/twenty-great-fuck-you-songs/


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tesla
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Default  Posted: 5:13 PM, November 4th (Monday)

Oy. What a douchebag.
You have raised a wonderful daughter that knows how to set her boundaries.


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SBB
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Default  Posted: 5:27 PM, November 4th (Monday)

It doesn't sound like they have any sort of relationship with OW. Do they have a relationship with him?

He is reaping what he sowed.


I may have reached a point where I'd piss on him if he was on fire.... eventually!!

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ButterflyGirl
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Default  Posted: 6:09 PM, November 4th (Monday)

This is from a man who never once visited his kids since he left in 2005 and never once came to see her at college (4 years!) and she went to school in our city, she wasn't far away.

Wow. Parent failure for sure. It makes it even more sad and hurtful that he's probably only asking her to do this for appearances, to impress OW or his family and friends, and/or to justify his actions and not feel so bad about everything.

If his children are supportive and come to sing or read a poem or whatever, what he did must not have been all that bad

What a dick.. Lots of hugs to you and your kids..


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miadianna
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Default  Posted: 6:11 PM, November 4th (Monday)

They have no relationship with OW, they were almost 16 and 18 when he left. But he wants them to be the Brady Bunch. My son was about to graduate high school, he moved out a week before my son's 18th birthday. He bought a house about 100 miles away in her town but expected them to be the ones to visit, but only when he wants. Which is when he has some sort of party. They have never spent any time with him alone since he left. They have visited a few times, always with OW there. Her kids lived with them, he said mine would have to get a hotel if they wanted to stay over. Which they never did.

A few years ago he sat them down and told them he made a living will and OW will come before them. They are in 3rd place, after his brother and OW. Just wanted them to know. At the time, he only knew her a few years. He makes a lot of money.

They don't care about that at all. My kids are not materialistic. They lived with me full-time. I raised them, took care of them, were there for them for every single thing all of these years. He was never around. Now they are grown and are very close to me and he can't stand it.


Me: BS 53
Son: 27 years old
Daughter: 25 years old
D-day(s) 9/23/94 - 1/31/05
Divorced 4/10/08

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Phoenix1
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Default  Posted: 6:33 PM, November 4th (Monday)

Self-entitled much??? What a fucktwit. I'm sorry your daughter even has to deal with it, but good for her for standing her ground!

I believe I am in the same position you started with. XPOS left in March and hasn't seen the kids since. He has no contact with kids except superficially with DS20 (DS20 is simply being civil and polite to get a few things out of him then is cutting him off). My DDs don't want anything to do with him. He sent me a text a few months ago that was asking something about DD22 (nothing important). I responded that he needed to talk to her about it as she was an adult. He responded, "I tried, but no one talks to me." HHHmmm, I wonder why, douche bag???? I expect him to marry his whore any time now, but anticipate his relationship will be the same as in your case with the kids in a few years - nonexistent.

These pricks just don't get it. Boggles the mind!

[This message edited by Phoenix1 at 6:34 PM, November 4th (Monday)]


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Kids - DDs 22,17 -DS20 Deceased
M Dissolved 2013

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Default  Posted: 6:38 PM, November 4th (Monday)

I'm really sorry.

We have this coming, if not already and kept secret from me.

He is also taking OW around to family members without asking them and showing up at their doors to introduce her.

And he brings our daughter there before we are even divorced.

On the phone he begs our daughter, "do you forgive me? Do you? Do you?" over and over, she said.

He was mad because I said he should not know those people.

He told my mother he wanted to marry her before we even knew he was a cheater.

WTF?

I am sorry for your pain and that of your children. No one should have to have it.


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careerlady
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Default  Posted: 8:37 PM, November 4th (Monday)

I''m so sorry I don''t understand how people can be so selfish and self-centered


Me (BS, 35); The Snake (WS, 36) 13yrs together; 1 baby boy (DOB 7/12)
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D by default 5/3/14!
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tryingagain74
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Default  Posted: 9:31 PM, November 4th (Monday)

Sorry that you're joining the charming club of those with XWS who are stupid enough to marry their APs. Yep, they don't see anything wrong with it and are under the mistaken impression that everyone will bless and welcome their union. It's sad how delusional they are, and they will never learn.

I'm sorry for your kids. At least they are old enough to be able to avoid the crazy. My kids are forced to deal with it during their forced visitation.


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FaithFool
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Default  Posted: 8:13 AM, November 5th (Tuesday)

I love your daughter.

Children aren't props to be trotted out to accessorize the unicorn rainbow life.

I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall during that conversation.

What a fuckwit.


DDay: June 15, 2008
Mistakenly married Mr. Superfreak
20 years of OWs, WTF?
Divorced Dec 26, 2011
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to sing in the lifeboats". -- Voltaire

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Default  Posted: 9:21 AM, November 5th (Tuesday)

Hugs to you and your DS and DD! I'm admiring your daughter and her boundaries.

Your ex is an asshole.


Me (BS): 42 Children: DD 19, DS 15
Settled at mediation
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miadianna
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Default  Posted: 2:26 PM, April 28th (Monday)

I'm just venting, have nobody else to talk to about this but I'm so mad at him. Daughter has cut off contact and XH won't give up.

He's at it again. Their wedding is next month and he is desperate for my daughter to be there. She has had no further conversation about this wedding since the last time he asked her and she told him she was not interested. The only time she has seen him in the past year was on Christmas Eve. It was a short dinner at a relative's home. She overheard someone asking him about the wedding at Christmas and thinks she heard it was May. He never told her when it was.

This past weekend he bomb texted her asking her again if she changed her mind and would please come to his wedding. She once again said "I'm not interested. It's not something I support so I have no reason to be there. But it would be nice if you, me, and my brother could meet and have dinner down here sometime." (XH moved 100 miles away and has never come to see her although he is in our area very often.)

He completely ignored her offer to have dinner with him and her brother and started asking her why she doesn't want to come to his wedding. He said it's going to look bad. He wrote "Your aunt XXXX would love to see you." (manipulative..her aunt could come and see her anytime and never has.) When she again said she wasn't going to be there, he wrote "But OW really likes you! It would mean a lot to me for you to be there." She doesn't care if OW likes her or not.

Her last text was telling him she is too old to be going back and forth like this and she has no interest in attending his wedding, she doesn't support it, and she would like if he respected her decision and not contact her again about this wedding.

I really can't believe he has no idea why she doesn't want to be a part of this. Can someone be that blind and narcissistic?

[This message edited by miadianna at 3:20 AM, May 3rd (Saturday)]


Me: BS 53
Son: 27 years old
Daughter: 25 years old
D-day(s) 9/23/94 - 1/31/05
Divorced 4/10/08

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Default  Posted: 2:43 PM, April 28th (Monday)

Can someone be that blind and narcissistic?

Yes and it's always about them.

Good for your DD and not giving in to a deadbeat Dad.


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norabird
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Default  Posted: 2:56 PM, April 28th (Monday)

Your DD sounds like a wise woman. I'm sorry her dad is blind to the situation...but she is handling it remarkably well! Kudos to you for raising a great woman.


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Kajem
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Default  Posted: 2:59 PM, April 28th (Monday)

I really can't believe he has no idea why she doesn't want to be a part of this. Can someone be that blind and narcissistic?

Yes! Unfortunately there is no cure for his affliction.

He's desperate because her not attending, will cause a rip in his carefully concocted story of the picture perfect blended family.

It's very hard to stand your ground against your parent, even when the parent is wrong! Give her extra hugs from us.. And I'll send some strengthening SI mojo her way. She has integrity. She didn't learn that from her father, you've done good mama!

Hugs for you too, it's hard to watch your kid go thru this stuff?

K


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sparkysable
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Default  Posted: 3:11 PM, April 28th (Monday)

He's desperate because her not attending, will cause a rip in his carefully concocted story of the picture perfect blended family.
This is exactly it. He even said it was going to look bad. For who? Him? He's marrying the OW, how much worse can it look?

It's very hard to stand your ground against your parent, even when the parent is wrong!
Absolutely! She is showing a lot of strength right now in standing up for herself. I wish more people in this world were like her.


D-day OW#1 2/2004; R for 6 years; D-day OW#2 5/2010

Marriages that start this way, stepping over the bodies of loved ones as the giddy couple walks down the aisle, are not likely to last.


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miadianna
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Default  Posted: 3:39 PM, April 28th (Monday)

This is exactly it. He even said it was going to look bad. For who? Him? He's marrying the OW, how much worse can it look?

This is where it gets tricky. I'm almost positive her family and friends have no idea he was married when they started their relationship. Because he travels for work, met her in another state at the hotel bar where she is a bartender, and was able to continue their relationship there during his work week, he probably told everyone he was already separated or divorced when he was not.

My daughter said "I know they're going to lie and tell people 'Oh poor little M...she is not here because she is still having trouble accepting the divorce' but I don't care Mom. I don't care what people I don't even know say or think about me because I know the truth."

Then she looked at me and said "Mom, have you ever dated a man who was married?" And I replied "No, I haven't." And she said "That's the difference. She did and continues to be with him. I don't have to like her. What they did together has affected our family forever and I just can't and don't need to accept it. I am moving on with my life as I have done for the past nine years since he left. He hasn't made any effort to acknowledge or apologize to any of us what he did was wrong and change. So I have a right to feel the way I do unless something changes."


Me: BS 53
Son: 27 years old
Daughter: 25 years old
D-day(s) 9/23/94 - 1/31/05
Divorced 4/10/08

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invictus
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Default  Posted: 4:05 PM, April 28th (Monday)

miadianna, this sounds SOOOOO familiar. My adult children want absolutely nothing to do with their ex-Dad, and it has everything to do with his behavior. Things would be SO different if he had showed he was truly sorry to have cheated. Instead, he is very much like your ex... does not seem to realize that he taught his children better than to associate with liars and cheaters.

He has had the opportunity to repair their relationships somewhat if only he had fulfilled his obligations in the divorce decree. Instead he filed a motion to be relieved... (and was denied) and frequently has been late with support payments. (May 1, he'll be 3 months behind...)

They might be able to understand a "mistake" like forgetting to get a divorce before having sex with someone besides his wife. They're too smart to put up with blatant lying and disrespect.

Your daughter has her head on straight. It may be different for a son (mine is still not willing to see the ex at all). You have given your children the outstanding gift of freedom to make up their own minds. My kids were already over 18 when all the discovery happened so I was fortunate not to have to deal with split-parenting. And that your ex has waited 9 years to marry OW says volumes. It wasn't even 1 year after the divorce was final that EXH married #2. My kids just rolled their eyes.

All the best to you and your children -- the values you've taught by your example are good ones... bless you all!

"i"


♥ One should rather die than be betrayed. There is no deceit in death. It delivers precisely what it has promised. Betrayal, though ... betrayal is the willful slaughter of hope. ~Steven Deitz

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miadianna
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Default  Posted: 4:30 PM, April 28th (Monday)

Now my son just messaged me (through his dad) to see why she doesn't want to be there and is she "sure" she doesn't want to go? This is ridiculous.


Me: BS 53
Son: 27 years old
Daughter: 25 years old
D-day(s) 9/23/94 - 1/31/05
Divorced 4/10/08

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SpecialK
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Default  Posted: 5:01 PM, April 28th (Monday)

I see your kids are adults and seem to be able to handle the situation on their own, but I see you never addressed the "reason" for the divorce yet you collected all the dirt? Why? I would blow their world up with the threat of showing up at their farce of a wedding with the evidence unless he backs off your daughter. It's time for Momma Bear to show some claws and let him know he ain't fooling anyone but his stupid self.
grrrrrr

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miadianna
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Default  Posted: 5:10 PM, April 28th (Monday)

Special K..I really never thought it would get this far. I have emails and chat messages and pictures from back in 2004-2005 when I had a suspicion he was cheating and wanted to prove for myself I wasn't going crazy.

Sometimes taking the "high road" gets you here, I guess. I thought I was doing the right thing at the time.


Me: BS 53
Son: 27 years old
Daughter: 25 years old
D-day(s) 9/23/94 - 1/31/05
Divorced 4/10/08

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SBB
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Default  Posted: 5:20 PM, April 28th (Monday)

^^ wait - your kids don't know she is an OW? Or they haven't seen all of the proof?

IMHO your daughter isn't reacting as the daughter of a BW, she is making a choice based on the fact that he has been an uninterested and uninvested father.

She is entitled to make a choice here as is your son. Her dad refuses to see it but she is looking to build bridges - she just doesn't want to be paraded around at his wedding when he hasn't bothered to help build those bridges.


I may have reached a point where I'd piss on him if he was on fire.... eventually!!

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miadianna
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Default  Posted: 5:21 PM, April 28th (Monday)

My son wrote "He is still trying to get over the fact that he messed things up with her."

Only with her? No one else?


Me: BS 53
Son: 27 years old
Daughter: 25 years old
D-day(s) 9/23/94 - 1/31/05
Divorced 4/10/08

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phmh
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Default  Posted: 7:26 PM, April 28th (Monday)

I have some advice for your daughter that I picked up on another forum I used to frequent (for people with terrible inlaws -- I no longer need it!) She needs to learn to stop JADEing.

To JADE is to Justify, Argue (and/or Apologize), Defend, and Explain. You never, ever, EVER want to JADE. JADEing is self-defeating behavior, because it allows the toxic individuals in your life an "in" to beating you into submission. To JADE is to hand over your power to someone else.

By "justifying" your decisions, you hand over your power by giving the other party the right to judge you. Nobody has the right to judge you for your needs.

By "arguing" with the other party, you hand over your power by making their desire to argue with you legitimate. Your needs aren't going to change no matter how much someone argues with you about them.

By "apologizing" to the other party, you hand over your power by admitting you're doing something wrong. You have every right to protect yourself and make sure your own needs are met.

By "defending" your position, you hand over your power by making the other party an authority figure. You're an adult, and fully capable of deciding what you do with your life. Nobody else has a right to tell you how to live.

By "explaining" the reasons for your boundaries, you hand over your power by giving the other party a chance to nullify your own experience. Your experience is your own. It is precious. Nobody else can know whether it's true or not.

I know it can be really really hard to learn new responses to situations, especially situations people have spent years grooming you to react to in specific ways. Fortunately, the script for avoiding a JADE moment is both brief and adaptable. It's something Nancy Regan taught us decades ago: JUST SAY NO!

"No, that won't work for me."
"No, I can't do that."
"No, thank you."

"No" is a complete sentence.

And when the "but whyyyyyyyyy?"s start, break all the grammatical rules with another one-word answer: "Because."

"Because that won't work for me."
"Because I can't do that."
"Because I said no."

The third and final step is the really brilliant one. Change the subject.

"No, I told you I won't be doing that. So how's the weather been where you are? Are the azaleas blooming yet?"

Now, there is a difference between JADEing to toxic people who don't have your best interests at heart, and exploring your own reasoning and reactions with people who are trying to help. You have to learn where that line is for yourself, from situation to situation. It takes practice--and that's okay. If you keep at it, it will become second nature, and you'll find your life is a great deal simpler.


Me: BW, divorced, now fabulous and happy!

Married: 11 years, no kids

The greater danger for most of us lies not in setting our aim too high and falling short; but in setting our aim too low, and achieving our mark. -Michelangelo


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Caretaker1
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Default  Posted: 9:46 PM, April 28th (Monday)

He's a jerk. Here's one in same vain. My ex and her bf are blending families already and invited to her parents home constantly. Disney Dads daughter is already talking step sisters.

Our kids art too young to voice their opinion ad mommy dearest and her mommy paint unicorns and rainbows. Both have pd and bipolar traits.


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renee21
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Default  Posted: 11:30 AM, April 29th (Tuesday)

Good for your daughter. He's a self centered ass and like most they believe the BS that they try to sell to the rest of the world.

I cringe at the thought of this being something around the corner for my kids. I'm preparing myself for the stbxh being stupid enough to marry his gutter pig. Granted it sucks for him right now because his family has closed all doors when it comes to her. my kids all hate her and know she is the OW due to it being flaunted. My 9 year old today told me he wished she lived I. the house nearby so he could flatten her tires. Yep, staying with her is an excellent option.

They are idiots, every one of them that move on with the AP deserve to eat shit in fairytale land.


BW(me) 36
WH-36 SA
Three kids 18, 16 and 9
Married 18 years.
Multiple D-Days, multiple OW and an OC
12/19/03,5/13/2004,12/5/2009, 2/20/2014
I am no longer a guest on the Jerry Springer Show.

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