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Gottagetthrough
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Default  Posted: 5:35 PM, January 2nd (Thursday)

Is that the same thing or are they two different things?

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Default  Posted: 6:19 PM, January 2nd (Thursday)

http://www.wisegeek.com/are-gluten-free-foods-also-low-carb.htm

Informative article for you.

I am on a very low carbohydrate regimen - permanently. It maintains my weight loss from two years ago.


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Default  Posted: 6:32 PM, January 2nd (Thursday)

Different things... but you can do both!


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Default  Posted: 6:43 PM, January 2nd (Thursday)

I'm a low carber as well.
I also maintained a huge weight loss (150 lbs) for almost a decade by eating low carb. Then I got lazy and fell back into my old eating habits, gained approx. 40lbs, which I am now working back off (by eating low carb and exercising).

The key for me is to stay under 50 net carbs and take in the bulk of my calories in fat and protein.


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Gottagetthrough
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Default  Posted: 8:58 PM, January 2nd (Thursday)

OHHHH DAMN...

I was diagnosed as PCOS this year and looked online for natural ways to help PCOS symptoms (which aren't really bad, I actually had to ask several drs as several told me I never had fertility issues and don't 'look' like a PCOSer... finally had some bloodwork done this year that confirmed)

Anywho, I looked up diets that are good for PCOS, etc. Low Carb. I thought that was the same as Gluten Free. Even bought a boat load of gluten free pasta (Im a vegetarian, I eat a lot of bread and pasta)

my gluten free pastahas 2 MORE gs of carbs than my regular $1 pasta

Keep telling myself, Im learning...

So anyone do low carb vegetarian. Ive been veggie for decades. I cant eat meat. How do you do that low carb


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Default  Posted: 9:10 PM, January 2nd (Thursday)

Keep under 60 grams of carbohydrates daily.
There are online resources, including healthy carbs...check them out.
Calories vs carbohydrates -- I don't count calories, just grams of carbs.

I do eat meat....prefer white chicken breast.
For my protein sources I eat eggs and cheese.
I also include salads daily.

I am not a fresh fruit or veggie eater, which I know is not the healthiest. However, I do take a vitamin supplement and very healthy for my age (62).


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Default  Posted: 11:18 PM, January 2nd (Thursday)

I don't know why anyone wants to do low carb. You NEED carbs--good carbs--low glycemic whole grains, fruits, vegies. You can do a little soy, a lot of barley/quinoa/farro (all high protein whole grains).

Gluten free is for people with wheat sensitivity/celiac/chrons.


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Default  Posted: 11:22 PM, January 2nd (Thursday)

You may want to try paleo rather than gf paleo is naturally low carb, healthy whole foods found in nature no processed stuff.


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Default  Posted: 11:34 PM, January 2nd (Thursday)

Yeah...as you figured out, GF and low carb aren't the same :(

My daughter has type 1 diabetes and celiac disease. We count every carb that child eats and drinks in order to calculate her insulin dose. When she had to transition to GF after her celiac diagnosis, I was shocked by the increased number of carbs it took to satisfy the same appetite in her growing body.

GF portion sizes are much smaller than "normal" food...so the carbs may look comparable at first, but when you carve out equal portion sizes of each, it's painfully obvious that GF food is much heavier in carbs :(

You might consider perusing some Paleo suggestions for ideas. While meat is part of a Paleo lifestyle, the foods eaten are GF and very low carb in general.

Good luck!


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Default  Posted: 11:48 PM, January 2nd (Thursday)

Different diets.

I have been looking for paleo foood ideas and what it includes etc, I have found pinterest is a great source of information. Hope that helps.


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Default  Posted: 1:11 AM, January 3rd (Friday)

I am a nutritionist and am working w a PCOS woman who is a vegetarian. It's been challenging but she is doing really well now.

You may not be handling carbs well and have developed insulin resistance so that's why even carbs that are healthy for lots of people have to be kept to a minimum for you. You could also get a glucose monitor and track your blood sugar for a month. Different people respond differently to different carbs. I've known diabetics who have steady blood sugar when eating beans and other who's blood sugar shot up after 1 serving.

There's only 3 macronutrients so if you have less carbs then you must have more protein and since you are a veg and you can't get that high with protein, don't be afraid of healthy fat. Many nutritionally oriented doctors suggest up to 60% fat for the good health. (Dr Perlmutter -sp.)

Vegetables
Nuts/nut butters
Coconut fat/milk
Seeds, flax/chia pumpkin, sunflower
Flax seed oil for the omega 3s
Avocados
Beans
Root veg like sweet potatoes and beets in moderation.
Protein powder (whey, hemp, pea)
Tempeh, tofu (avoid fake soy meats)
Eggs
Cheese, yogurt, butter, ghee
Small amounts of whole grains (avoid all kinds of flour products)
Sweeten with stevia or xylitol.
Lots of Cinnamon!
Chocolate :-) (not the bars but making your own chocolate pudding with coconut milk, chia seeds, vanilla, cocoa powder, pinch of sea salt whiz zed smooth in a blender and set in a fridge.)
Try not to depend on artificial sweeteners like Splenda or aspartame as they create problems.

If you are at all open to fish, shrimp, etc ...or at least fish / cod liver oil as that makes the cells more sensitive to insulin. That would help a lot.

Make sure you are taking b12 methyl cobalamin at least 1000mcg. Especially if you end up on metformin.

Good luck. Take a few weeks to make slow changes, it doesn't have to all happen this week. Keep researching what healthy foods you enjoy and adding them in, slowly eliminating the sugar/flour foods/processed stuff.

You will feel better! My client is running half marathons now.


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Default  Posted: 1:36 AM, January 3rd (Friday)

Low carb doesn't mean no carb.
I choose to limit carbs/sugar and, for me, it works well. I don't feel sluggish and bloated after meals and I have a lot of energy.


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Gottagetthrough
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Default  Posted: 7:58 AM, January 3rd (Friday)

Try not to depend on artificial sweeteners like Splenda or aspartame as they create problems.

I was drinking almost 3 20oz bottles of diet soda when i got my diagnosis of PCOS...

And Im not on metaformin yet, but thats been discussed as a possibility.

I also had a 10lb baby, and the ob at the time was sure i had gestational diabetes, but i did not. Wonder if that has anything to do with the PCOS...

Hmmm... lots to think about! Still pissed that I just went shopping and got bulk quinoa and bulk gluten free pasta LOL!!!

and MANY thanks for that list of foods to start me out with. My SIL is doing low carb to lose weight, and told me that peas have lots of carbs So much to learn, i had no idea.

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Default  Posted: 9:28 AM, January 3rd (Friday)

I"m a PCOS, primarily vegetarian and I have taken Metformin for 10 years.

I did lose a lot of weight, but it took a while to do that. It comes back on really easily too.

If I"m being really "good", here is what I eat:

Mostly I live on greek yogurt, fat free. I eat it in the morning with fruit and a little honey. Or an egg sautéed with some peppers, mushrooms and a little low fat cheese. If I"m being "bad", I might cook an egg or two with a piece of whole wheat toast.

I made tuna salad (I do eat a little meat…) with greek yogurt, adding celery or whatever. I put it on salad or fill an avocado. I use greek yogurt as sour cream too. I create salad dressings or make a great dip with yogurt, natural peanut butter, honey and cinnamon. Perfect for dipping with apples or as a topping for fruit salad…my kids LOVE this. Sometimes I add a tablespoon of chocolate to it too.

I make my own soups and freeze in individual portions. Butternut squash, broccoli, sometimes chicken and quinoa, bean soup. I generally add a little milk when they are thawed to add some protein.

Dinner is salad with cheese, cottage cheese, salmon, tofu. Quesidillas (whole wheat) with cheese and veggies. Sauteed zucchini with goat cheese..yum! Or a soup...

Snacks are nuts, cottage cheese with a little lemon olive oil on top, a low fat cheese stick. Desserts are fruit with whipped topping and a cup of decaf coffee or tea. I do put a tablespoon of half and half in for richness. A touch of splenda.

The trick for me is to always eat a carb and a protein together. Over Christmas, I didn't care..I ate what I wanted. Now I"m having to take that weight off…I wish I didnt' do it, but every Christmas I allow myself to splurge.


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Gottagetthrough
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Default  Posted: 9:53 AM, January 3rd (Friday)

thank you so much for all of this wonderful information!

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Default  Posted: 9:56 AM, January 3rd (Friday)

are kidney, black, navy beans OK and low carb

also, whats the deal with quinoa... i see differing opinions on it

if i can eat beans, vegetables, salsa, hot sauce and quinoa i will be A-OK.


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Default  Posted: 2:38 PM, January 4th (Saturday)

I use quinoa sparingly.

You'll have to find out what "sets you off". Most nutritionists tout the benefits of oatmeal. Well, that makes my blood sugar all wacky. I crash fast afterwards. Feel shaky, etc.

If i eat too many carbs, I feel shaky or sluggish or can't form my words correctly, I also become short tempered. My ex used to tell me, "you need to go eat something."

Beans are good, but they aren't a complete protein. But, beans with brown rice is a complete protein. Do you have a nutritionist?? It really did help me in the beginning.

Oh, I do rice cakes with peanut butter as a snack. Just had a greek yogurt with fruit because the 3pm time is a major crash time for me.

You need to find a way to get more protein in your diet.

I made low fat broccoli and cheese soup for dinner tonight with salad. The kids will have grilled cheese to dip in

Seriously, find a good nutritionist and then start listening to your body! No one is the same, you have to find out what you triggers your body.


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Default  Posted: 8:17 PM, January 4th (Saturday)

Speaking as a diabetic and fellow pasta-lover, I use Dreamfields pasta - it's low GI/low carb and it tastes JUST like the real thing. You'll never know the difference.

I devour pasta - if Dreamfields didn't exist, I'd be heartbroken.

(You may want to test it with just one box to be sure - sometimes it doesn't work for everyone, but for those where it does, it's a LIFE SAVER.)


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Gottagetthrough
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Default  Posted: 9:11 PM, January 4th (Saturday)

I saw dream fields tonight at the store, but it said 41 g of carbs? My sil does low carb and eats it, too. I'm confused

I bet it has something to do with low glycemic index. but I'm not sure.


I think I will make an appt with a nutritionist, good idea :-)


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Default  Posted: 5:24 AM, January 5th (Sunday)

I eat paleo and love it I've never felt, trained or looked better. I jumped off over Christmas and now feel awful so am starting on the Whole 30 diet tomorrow. It's a 30 day clean eating programme to reset your eating habits just google it if you're interested there are heaps of free resources and no products to pitch!

Won't proselytise here but there are some great websites check out Marks Daily Apple and Everyday Paleo. Let me know if you decide to try the Whole 30, it really helps to have a "sponsor"


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Default  Posted: 9:50 AM, January 5th (Sunday)

Reading nutrition labels is something you're going to have to do in order to get the real picture of the food you're eating.

Dreamfields has 41g of total carbs and 5g of fiber. The net carbs would be 41 - 5 = 36g NET carbs per portion.
For me, 36g carbs is a significant amount of my total daily carb intake (50g or less of net carbs per day).

I julienne fresh zucchini, daikon, and occasionally carrots to make noodles instead of using traditional pasta. Zucchini is a great (and easy) replacement. Daikon in a chicken "noodle" soup tastes WONDERFUL.

There are tons of websites on low carb eating that you might find helpful. If you're on Facebook or Pinterest, look up DJ Foodie. He always has GREAT recipes and sends a lot of link to free ebooks (cookbooks, etc) as well!


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Default  Posted: 10:59 AM, January 5th (Sunday)

I don't know exactly how Dreamfields works, to be honest. But it does, at least for me, because when I eat regular spaghetti, my blood sugar goes through the roof - the Dreamfields doesn't do that to me, so there must be SOMETHING going on.

It states that the leftover carbs are "protected" by a specialized process. Take that as you will - I don't know anything about it.

The only thing I can testify to as far as this product goes is that it works - for me. So I can keep having lasagna.


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Default  Posted: 2:39 PM, January 5th (Sunday)

I've been low carbing for years and really love it! There are a lot of people who don't understand or think it means eating nothing but steak and butter, but I love to eat chicken, fish, all veggies, fruits, etc. Another way to think of it is more of a cut-out-the-white-stuff mindset in many cases. Sugar, bread/pastries, pasta, potatoes, white rice, etc. It's not a hard and fast rule because, for ex, cauliflower is very low-carb, but that general guideline helps get rid of a lot of carbs.

I picked up the Atkins book years ago and followed it very closely until I became more comfortable with the whole idea of low-carb eating.

Anyway, as far as beans go, there are canned black soybeans in many grocery store health food sections. They look and taste like regular black beans but without the carbs. I use those in any recipe where I would normally use regular black beans, even by themselves as refried beans.


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Default  Posted: 3:10 PM, January 5th (Sunday)

Anyway, as far as beans go, there are canned black soybeans in many grocery store health food sections. They look and taste like regular black beans but without the carbs. I use those in any recipe where I would normally use regular black beans, even by themselves as refried beans.
Awesome! I'm going to try this!


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Default  Posted: 4:14 PM, January 5th (Sunday)

My husband and I went low carb after I read the Primal Blueprint (same guy who has the Mark's Daily Apple blog). That man changed our lives. The book absolutely motivated me to want to do right by my body and it has made a huge difference. We changed our lifestyle completely in September 2012. Since then, I've lost a little over 70 pounds and my husband is hovering at somewhere around 60. I saw my doctor for the first time since I started it and she was so happy, she hugged me.

Low-carb for us has been very healthy. We still eat fruit and veggies. My husband is Cuban so we still eat beans, too. We've just learned that our carbs have to be taken in moderation and we avoid anything made with refined sugar or flour. But if we want something, we eat it. If I want a piece of cheesecake, I have one. I just don't have one everyday or eat the whole cheesecake anymore.

The weight loss has made a huge difference, too. We're more active now just because we can be. My feet don't hurt after 30 minutes of walking. My knees and back don't ache all day every day. I don't just sit all the time because it hurts to do anything else, anymore. When I go to the playground with my granddaughter now, I'm climbing the jungle gym with her.

Whoever said you need carbs as if a low-carb diet meant cutting carbs out entirely doesn't understand how this works. Of course, you need carbs. You can't get every vitamin and mineral your body needs from meat alone. But you don't need high-sugar, processed carbs that the body doesn't have to work to digest. If your body has to work to digest it and if it's high in fiber, it's good for your body (in moderation).

The key here is MODERATION. Too much of anything is not good for you and we've become a society that just doesn't do anything in moderation. Sex addicts have issues because they don't have sex in moderation. Alcoholics have issues because they don't drink alcohol in moderation. Shopaholics have issues because they don't shop in moderation. And overeaters have issues because they don't eat in moderation. Even people who exercise too much have issues. My point is that there is a huge difference between a low carb diet and a no carb diet. Eating carbs in moderation is the key to making this work.

The other key for me was considering the consequences of my actions. What I mean by that is along with eating in moderation, I now heavily consider the long term effects of what I'm putting in my mouth to determine if it's worth it. A bonus is that I realized that, just as my WS had issues with considering the long term effects of some of his behaviors, I also did when it came to food and some other areas of my life. When we started trying to eat more deliberately and with long term consequences in mind, we realized that it was something we needed to start applying to other areas of our lives as well. We're now more careful spenders, eaters, exercisers, and thinkers in general. We've paid off more debt, have money in savings, spend better time together, and enjoy life more all the way around. But it all started with the Primal Blueprint and a low carb diet in September 2012. That book really made me think about my life and how to change it for the better.


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