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cl131716
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Default  Posted: 2:46 PM, February 13th (Thursday)

This is an idea that came from breezy's post in JFO. For those who successfully R'd and experienced projected jealousy (they accused or had thoughts you were unfaithful) do you have any insight? How long did the projections last? How can you move past it? And what is the best way to counter them?

Answers from WS's appreciated too.


Me BS 31
Him WS 34 Trying4change
Together 3 years, married for one
D-day: 07/23/13 cybersex with COW
D-day: 12/27/13 found out he met and kissed a "friend" in 2011
"A clear and innocent conscience fears nothing."

Posts: 935 | Registered: Sep 2013 | From: Oklahoma
Breezy150
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Default  Posted: 3:57 PM, February 13th (Thursday)

Thank you, I am still learning how to navigate this site. LOL.


I am so disappointed when a liar's pants don't actually start on fire.

BS me 41
WH 42 his whore was my friend
Married 24 years
Finally finding R?
3 kids 3 grand kids
DDay 1 -Jan 2 2014
DDay 2 -Feb 20 2014 A went underground fo


Posts: 539 | Registered: Feb 2014
Hosea
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Member # 42422
Default  Posted: 5:47 PM, February 13th (Thursday)

I've posted very little here, though I've lurked here awhile.

My wife had a brief affair more than a decade ago, but we're fully reconciled and very far past the crisis. I have some opinions on the topic, though I'm just some random nobody.

I offer this perspective with a caveat–– it applies only to marriages in which there was only one affair, and it requires that the WS, having committed to reconciliation, feels genuine guilt. It does not apply to marriages torn apart by serial infidelity on the part of a WS. (God help anyone married to someone so broken and self-absorbed.)

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After an affair, both the WS and the BS are extremely vulnerable to jealousy, though very unique strains of it.

BETRAYED JEALOUSY - A wounded jealousy. This is a jealousy of trauma, one which drives the victim to imagine both past (and possibly real) unconfessed betrayals along with future ones.

NOTE: This is HIGHLY DEBILITATING yet ENTIRELY RATIONAL, as an affair is nothing less than the confirmation of their greatest possible fears. The BS is often powerless to fight the compulsion towards paranoid thinking and they need and deserve the wayward's help to combat it.

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BETRAYER JEALOUSY - A selfish jealousy. This is a jealousy of guilt, one which recognizes (to some degree) that depth of one's betrayal. This indicates, in some fashion, the self-centeredness of the WS. He/She is putting themselves in their victim's shoes, and imagining how he/she would "get even" in such horrible circumstances.

NOTE: This is a HIGHLY DESTRUCTIVE "defense" mechanism which is inherently offensive and hurtful to the Betrayed Spouse. Absent clear evidence, the Wayward Spouse has NO RIGHT to question the trustworthiness of the very person who has already proven their trustworthiness to the very person who has already proven their untrustworthiness. Consider the humbling prospect that you married someone of far greater character who simply treats you better than you can imagine treating them. (Lucky you, unlucky them!)

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In my opinion, the burden to alleviate BOTH types of jealousy is entirely on the WAYWARD SPOUSE. Period.

Here's what I suggest:

BETRAYER JEALOUSY: Unless your BS has actively given you cause to suspect a "Revenge Affair", this jealousy is an indicator of your own egocentrism, just as the affair was. GET OVER IT AND KEEP IT TO YOURSELF. Do not make accusations or even suggestions about this possibility to your BS. It will only reinforce in his/her mind your self-absorption, which you've already more than demonstrated by betraying him/her. He/she is looking for you to prove that you can change to be a better spouse, not be an even bigger jackass than he/she fears!

BETRAYED JEALOUSY: Your BS has every right to be fearful of possible past undisclosed betrayals. Make sure you have fully accounted for your misdeeds. (I can't overstate the importance of full-disclosure as a foundation for reconciliation!) The BS also has every reason to believe you think him/her utterly worthless and doubt your trustworthiness going forward.

You must be an open book, surrendering yourself to any form of monitoring they require. This will help alleviate their potential for jealousy and suspicion. (I know these points are reiterated everywhere on SI but it can't be said enough.)

But it is every bit as important that your dealings with your BS, in private and especially in public, reinforce to them (and the world) that you value them above all others. If you are both at a party, surrounded by men and women, stay close to your BS. Keep an arm around him/her when you can (if they let you!) Let them know, and anyone watching you, that your spouse is the center of your universe.

It helps SO MUCH for your BS to see you sending signals of this kind to others, especially those people who might look, in their paranoid eyes, like future affair partners waiting to bonk you.

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I would encourage any Wayward Spouse who struggles with jealous fears of potential payback from their BS to really examine your own heart. Don't weaponize the guilt you feel; if you do, you cheapen the priceless gift of forgiveness you've been given. The proper response is gratitude, both earnestly felt and visibly demonstrated.

If you fear he/she might be disloyal to you at some time down the road, do everything in your power to show you value him/her more than anyone else ever could. This is what they longed to believe when they forgave you for doing the opposite. This is what you both swore to do when you married. And this is the new foundation your marriage will be built on, amidst the rubble left of the old.



John 8:10-11: "Then Jesus stood up again and said to the woman, “Where are your accusers? Did they not condemn you?”

“No, Lord,” she said.

And Jesus said, “Neither do I. Go and sin no more.”


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SisterMilkshake
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Default  Posted: 5:59 PM, February 13th (Thursday)

Great post, and very good insight, Hosea, for being, as you posted,
though I'm just some random nobody.
BTW, welcome to SI. Sorry you qualify as a member of this club.


BW (me) 50ish FWH 50ish
Married 34 years, 3 children
d-day 3/10 LTA (4 yrs./fucking & flirting)

"Oh, why do my actions have consequences?" ~ Homer Simpson
"She knew my one weakness: That I'm weak!" ~ Homer Simpson


Posts: 9408 | Registered: Nov 2010 | From: The Great White North USA
cl131716
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Default  Posted: 6:35 PM, February 13th (Thursday)

Wow Hosea, that was a great read! Thank you for the response. I definitely need to have my WH read it.

Unfortunately, I do believe WH would be in the serial cheater category as he had an EA before we married and another only 6 months after we married. The jealousy has been there as long as the cheating has. I'm not sure what that means for me.

Still I enjoyed reading your reply.


Me BS 31
Him WS 34 Trying4change
Together 3 years, married for one
D-day: 07/23/13 cybersex with COW
D-day: 12/27/13 found out he met and kissed a "friend" in 2011
"A clear and innocent conscience fears nothing."

Posts: 935 | Registered: Sep 2013 | From: Oklahoma
Breezy150
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Member # 42421
Default  Posted: 6:35 PM, February 13th (Thursday)

Thank you so much Hosea for that very informative post. I was the one that brought it up in JFO. Obviously it is not exactly what I wanted to hear, but it is what I needed to hear. I thought my WH jealousy was a kind of proof that he felt SO guilty.

I stop him as soon as he starts and tell him that I will not be punished for his choices, and he can't project his guilt on me. It looks like we need a little more work in this area.

Any other advice on how to work through this is very much appreciated.


I am so disappointed when a liar's pants don't actually start on fire.

BS me 41
WH 42 his whore was my friend
Married 24 years
Finally finding R?
3 kids 3 grand kids
DDay 1 -Jan 2 2014
DDay 2 -Feb 20 2014 A went underground fo


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