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VD2012
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Content  Posted: 6:10 PM, February 18th (Tuesday)

Before addressing anything else, I just wanted to extend a thanks to Deeply Scared & MangledHeart, the moderating staff, as well as all of the wonderful members here, be they betrayed or wayward. Surviving Infidelity is such a great place and has helped me as well as my wife immensely. The outpouring of support and help this place offers those suffering through all this stuff is so invaluable. So thank you to each and every one of you.

That said, I've needed to be away. Needed to be away from infidelity, adultery, cheating, whatever you want to call it. Despite my best efforts it was consuming everything about me and slowly but surely driving me insane. I felt like I was becoming obsessed with everything about my wife's affair. Not in an unhealthy way mind you, just... it being there constantly. Thinking about it, being reminded of it, triggering from it, being fearful of it. It was my life, as I'm sure and know many here can relate.

In October I was consumed with two opposing thoughts. One was I love my wife and want to work toward our future together, that I forgive her and see just how much she is changing and working on herself and us. The other thought, which was slowly growing without me addressing it, was a developing resentment and bitterness that was eating away at everything else. My internal self talk was taking a turn for the jaded and I wasn't paying attention. Everything she did or did not do was colored by the affair even if it had no relevance. Why? Because it's the only thing that was in my head. And I wasn't doing anything about that.

I couldn't enjoy our son like I wanted to. I couldn't enjoy our daughter like I wanted to. I couldn't enjoy our family as a whole. Couldn't enjoy anything really. I wasn't happy. I was utterly and absolutely miserable. Music, television, exercise, food, writing, reading, games, anything. Nothing I did was fulfilling. I found too much of my time was thinking about the affair. In the shower, in bed at night, eating lunch, changing a diaper, walking down the street, during sex, it didn't matter, the affair was there every second. Be it an in-my-face trigger or just that subtle notion that my world is forever changed and nagging feeling that my life isn't "right".

I was becoming combative with my wife and quite frankly feel like I was turning into an asshole. Every second, there it was. And it didn't help that I came here every day. Opening up every new thread multple times a day. Checking back on topics I'd read previously. Scouring through post after post seeing if there was something that could help me, something I feel I could reply to or worst of all... just because it became my thing to do, my "hobby". My wife's affair had become my life and everything else was just me going through the motions.

So what's happened in the past 4 months? A lot of introspective thinking, lots of talking, acceptance and realizations. I'm in a much much better place mentally. I've also come to realize, and begrudgingly accept, I'm not on the 2 year or 5 or anything plan. This is just my life as it is now. My wife had a brief affair following a mental breakdown precipitated by a lifetime of crap. Nothing can change, alter or otherwise do anything about it. Despite feeling like I'd accepted it before, I hadn't. I had that nagging feeling, that desire to somehow alter the past. I wanted that time machine so bad. I don't anymore.

I look at my wife and see such a beautiful person. She has changed and grown beyond any measure I thought she could. We've had some problems in the past few months but almost entirely caused by me letting my negative feelings affect me and not dealing with them like I should. I also stopped communicating those feelings to her. I didn't want to push her guilt or make her feel shame, so I swallowed up the feelings. I didn't want to negatively affect her positive changes. I saw how much she was improving, and just as she was doing so I was becoming consumed by that bitterness. "Why should I have to heal? Why do I have to be accepting? Why did this happen to me? I miss feeling happy. I miss enjoying life. I hate being sad all the time. I hate that things bother me now when they never did before." Yet there she was demonstrating her new coping mechanisms, handling stressful things and making decisions properly. I'd be in a terrible mood and overreact to something (which was sadly becoming the norm) and she dealt with it properly... she did what I used to do. She was calm, rational, understanding, willing and wanting to talk. I've been humbled more than once by her newfound grace and positivity.

Why though? Why was I getting like that? Quite frankly I've been terrified of being happy. Scared to enjoy my life. The more she changed, the better our life became, the more I grew fearful. What if this doesn't last? What if this is all some long form sham and she's secretly going to really screw me over in the future? I started getting paranoid. I didn't want to start feeling happy in case it was going to get yanked away from me. I can't go through this sort of thing again. That combined with my seeming obsession with her affair was just getting too me too much. I freaked myself out when I started thinking how easier and "safer" it would be just to stay miserable and bitter. That's when I decided I needed to do something or else I was bound to get worse, and only I could change myself.

I took a long walk one day and sat nearly freezing on a park bench and just started talking out loud to myself. I said all the things my rational self would say and I listened. My emotional self then expressed all the horrible shit I was thinking and feeling. I conversed with myself for nearly an hour, out loud, in a park with people roaming about. I didn't care, and I needed it. Journalling, talking to my wife, posting on here, going to counselling, none of it helped me as much as just spilling out every diametrically opposed and conflicting thought or feeling I had out loud to myself. I decided I made a choice to stay with my wife, to let her grow and change. I made a choice to carry forth as a family and part of that choice is learning how AND actually coping with what's happened to me. Not just pragmatically, not just logically, not just rationally, but with my feelings. One of the things I came to the conclusion of is that I thought about and dealt with her affair way too much. I needed to stop.

So I've spent the past few months learning how to ignore the affair. I try not to talk about it, when I trigger I do my best to brush it off and when it could be of relevance I choose to make it irrelevant. I was concerned this could be a form of rug sweeping, or perhaps even compartmentalization. It's not. I've more than scrutinized every fiber of the damn rug let alone anything that could be put under it. You don't heal a wound by constantly picking at it, reopening it and perpetually staring at it as if it's the only thing in existence. My problem was I didn't know how to let it go. For me, I just had to. Just had to stop. Stop making it part of my life. Force myself to focus and do other things, to try and re-embrace what I used to love, and somewhat more importantly find new things to love. I had to just live my life without the affair.

My wife still comes here almost daily. Her browser is filled with SI tabs, and she's every so often telling me about something she's read. And we've had a few talks about how she feels regarding the affair and other stuff related to it. I'll still address it and talk to her about it if it's important to her. Yet for me, I can't let it take hold of my mind anymore. I choose to sit on the floor building a block castle for our son, or watch him try and start walking, or help our daughter learn to read, or something that's become really important embrace my life with my best friend. Our relationship has livened up in wonderful ways all just by simple gestures like laying in bed together on Sundays, cuddling without distractions to watch movies, sitting with each other actively, and something I missed so much: flirting. . I've gone out of my way to do everything I can that isn't affair related. I've gone out of my way to live my life without the affair. I dumped it's sorry good for nothing ass.

But also, despite learning to ignore the affair (in what I feel is a healthy way), because honestly at nearly 2 years out it as a thing isn't really important to our lives anymore, I think I've finally embraced my emotions. I do not ignore them. I talk about them constantly with my wife, I share what I feel and how I feel about things. We both know it's often a result of the affair, but in the moment the affair has nothing to do with my feelings. The feelings matter, the affair doesn't. It's hard for me to articulate this, but I hope you understand. It's a distinction I had to make for myself to be able to move on.

Which I think I really finally am. For a couple months I combated myself daily in an effort not to come here. Or look up something else about infidelity. But after a couple more months... I actually am glad I'm not here daily I appreciate and admire those with the strength and desire to extend themselves to those newly suffering years out from their own devastation, but it's not in me. I get dragged down too easily in my head which isn't mentally or emotionally healthy for me.. Even now my wife thinks I'm depressed, which I believe she's right. I still don't enjoy life like I used to, but I actually feel for once (not just think) that my future will be happy. To combat that depression and general malaise of life I need to stay away from the affair. It has no place in my life anymore. I've had more moments and actual days of happiness since making my choice than I thought I would. We have sex now and I don't think about it. That is so beyond awesome. I can look at her and feel love, wholeness and happiness like I once did without the pain getting in the way. Not always sadly, but the fact I have moments or days like that makes me very hopeful.

I'll always carry the pain of my wife's choices in some way probably for the rest of my life. When I look at her though she's not the same wife. I feel safe with this person, she respects me, cares for me, I'm learning to trust her and I know that she finally loves me in a healthy way. Also, much to my joy, I see the beginning of her own self love. Our daughter is wonderful and watching my little clone grow is an amazing thing to behold, my wife has gone back to school and is excelling in her program. She started looking for a new job without me knowing, but the irony of all ironies is I've told her to hold off until she's finished with school (despite the fact I'd love her to leave her work). She can't take being there personally anymore, so even in that regard it will soon be a distant memory. And we've even taken up new hobbies together. We recently got into playing board games together. Life's, really, just moving forward. Something I was afraid of but am now looking forward to.

I'm not happy like I want, but learning to live a life not consumed by "the affair" has renewed me in many ways. One day I'll be where I want to be and I know my wife will be by my side. And now, I actually think I can enjoy that and not be scared. I'm actually very much looking forward to our 10 year anniversary next month. Something I'll be very happy to celebrate.

Again, I want to thank all of you here at SI who have helped me, have helped my family. You are people are amazing. I also would like to say sorry to those who have followed me and taken a personal interest in my story. My last post was conflicting and quite negative, and my sudden disappearance wasn't appropriate. I'm sure it left more than a few at ill ease, so I'm sorry for that. My wife has been talking about this place a lot recently and I felt I should update on myself for those of you who care.

Anyways, thanks for reading.


Me: 28 ~ Her (FR2012): 27
Together: 9 years, 2 children
D-Day: April 19, 2012

Surrender to the truth of life.


Posts: 466 | Registered: Jul 2012 | From: Traversing Dark Places With The Light of Truth
Aubrie
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Member # 33886
Default  Posted: 7:35 PM, February 18th (Tuesday)

Good to see you posting again VD. Been thinking of y'all often.


Me - FWW * Him - QuietStand

"Courage is being scared to death and saddling up anyway." - J. Wayne

"What if I fall?" Oh but my darling, what if you fly?


Posts: 6227 | Registered: Nov 2011 | From: South, Y'all!
karmahappens
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Member # 35846
Default  Posted: 7:36 PM, February 18th (Tuesday)

So glad you checked in.

I wish you continued strength and healing. You have come through so much in your lIfe, I applaud your continued commitment to healing.

Hugs to you and your wife.


“And the day came when the risk to remain tight in a bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom”
Anaïs Nin
Me: 45
Him: 47
Dday 8/2007
We have R'd

Posts: 3800 | Registered: Jun 2012 | From: Massachusetts
AFrayedKnot
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Member # 36622
Default  Posted: 8:04 PM, February 18th (Tuesday)

The feelings matter, the affair doesn't.


BS 39
fWS 36 (SurprisinglyOkay)
DD DS
A whole bunch of shit that got a lot worse before it got better.
"Knowing is half the battle"

Posts: 2584 | Registered: Aug 2012
LA44
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Member # 38384
Default  Posted: 8:07 PM, February 18th (Tuesday)

Thank you so much for posting this. It is beautiful to read where you are right now and how you got there.

Also, you are an incredible writer and I am hoping the work you do on a daily basis somehow uses this gift you were blessed with.

All the best to you and yours, VD2012.
LA44

ps: my H read the part about the board games and like that (but I am not going there!).


Me: 44
He: 47 WH
Married: 15 years
D Day: December 2012
Affair: Fall 2009 - Dec. 2011
R is not linear

Posts: 2287 | Registered: Feb 2013 | From: Canada, eh
Skan
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Member # 35812
Default  Posted: 8:56 PM, February 18th (Tuesday)

Hey, as it''s said, take what you need and leave the rest. I''m glad that you took the support when it was needed, and then took time to dig within yourself when YOU needed it. Life''s moving forward what a wonderful thing for your family!


Imagine a ship trying to set sail while towing an anchor. Cutting free is not a gift to the anchor. You must release that burden, not because the anchor is worthy, but because the ship is.

D-Day, June 10, 2012



Posts: 4804 | Registered: Jun 2012 | From: So California
rachelc
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Member # 30314
Default  Posted: 8:58 PM, February 18th (Tuesday)

I've wondered about you VD, considering... You know...

You've done exactly what I want to do but am struggling to let go of. I need to step back too.

Good luck!


his Dday: 2/10
my Ddays: 1/12, 4/12 broken NC 12/12

me (WW/BS): 48
him: (BS/WH)52
4 kiddos in mid 20's

Me: I didn't sign up for this.
Him: you're already in this. All you can do is resign...


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ILINIA
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Default  Posted: 9:21 PM, February 18th (Tuesday)

Posts like yours are what keeps me attached to SI. To hear the journeys about both personal growth and growth within a marriage has been extremely valuable as I forage ahead.

Thank you for posting!



Entering R slowly and cautiously...

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still-living
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Default  Posted: 9:49 PM, February 18th (Tuesday)

Yet there she was demonstrating her new coping mechanisms, handling stressful things and making decisions properly. I''d be in a terrible mood and overreact to something (which was sadly becoming the norm) and she dealt with it properly... she did what I used to do. She was calm, rational, understanding, willing and wanting to talk. I''ve been humbled more than once by her newfound grace and positivity.

This resonates strongly with me. What my wife says now or how she reacts continues to amaze me more and more. A definition of love I discovered, "seeing your self through another", and the old cliche "Opposites attract" are making more sense. Take out the bad, I am now becoming what attracted me to my wife. I believe the same is happening to her. We are growing up through each other. Its nice.


BH(me)47
WW 47 FOO Issues
DDay 11/09 Coworker
High School Sweethearts
Married 06/91
8 months TT
Sons 19 and 14
Recovery is constructing a pyramid of inference from which to see clearer.
The process involves using the reflexive loop.

Posts: 739 | Registered: Dec 2010 | From: Ches
5454real
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Default  Posted: 10:01 PM, February 18th (Tuesday)

That's extremely awesome.


BH 51, WW 42
DS 23(Mine),SD 21,SS 20(Hers),DS 9 Ours, DGS 3, DGD 1 mo
D=Day #1 5/04EA (Rugswept)
D-Day #2 3/10/12, TT til 3/13/12
Married 10yrs
“I have no love for a friend who loves in words alone.”
― Sophocles, Antigone

Posts: 2827 | Registered: Nov 2012 | From: midwest
ICECOLD
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Member # 40258
Default  Posted: 1:54 AM, February 19th (Wednesday)

Thank you for the update, and I'm happy you are getting better. Its one step at a time...

I've been following your story since I've joined SI, because you're so well spoken, eloquent, and intelligent, and It seems like we actualy have the exact same flaws and hang ups. Im way more rational then emotional, which hinders me greatly in recovery. So thanks again for sharing your journey.


"If you think the grass is greener on the other side, it's because it's fertilized with bullshit."

"If you think the grass is greener, you're welcome to take a hike"

BS:47
WS:45
Kids

R: one foot in, and one foot out


Posts: 50 | Registered: Aug 2013 | From: Atlanta GA
UKlady
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Member # 39058
Default  Posted: 2:40 AM, February 19th (Wednesday)

Wow! This has just moved me to tears (in a good way). I''m struggling so much right now starting year two and desperately want to be where you are. Your post has been like a wake up call, a smack in the face if you like (in a good way - if that''s possible! ) and I will think on this lots.

Thank you so much


Me: BW 45
Him: WH 48
Married: 6 years, together 9 years
D-day: 3 January 2013 - he confessed.
A: June-Dec 2012
No children.

Posts: 153 | Registered: Apr 2013 | From: UK
OnAnIsland
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Member # 34319
Default  Posted: 3:00 AM, February 19th (Wednesday)

Thanks for posting your update. Keep taking care of yourself and your family. SI will be here if you need it. Glad things are improving.


D-day: Christmas 2011
D-day 2: 3/28/2013

Married for over 15 years
2 beautiful boys in elementary school

You may not control all the events that happen to you, but you can decide not to be reduced by them. Maya Angelou


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spond
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Member # 41686
Default  Posted: 6:52 AM, February 19th (Wednesday)

Thank you for sharing your wonderful journey VD2012.

I also found myself spending a little too much time of the SI site. I have actually attempted to step away from the Just Found Out forum, because I feel, if I want to recover I shouldn't be hashing through someone else's misery, I should be attempting to surround myself with other recovering individuals.


BH(me) | fWW
2 Kids - Married 2002
D-Day TT & EA | D-Day #2 PA
Reconciling

Posts: 402 | Registered: Dec 2013
ItsaClimb
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Member # 37107
Default  Posted: 8:10 AM, February 19th (Wednesday)

Thanks for the update. I have often thought about you and wondered how you were doing. Glad things are going well for you.


BS 46
Together 29 yrs, M 25 years
2 daughters 24yo(married with a brand new little daughter) & 19yo
D-Day 18 Aug 2012
6mth EA lead to 4mth PA with CO-W. I found out 8 1/2 yrs later

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sisoon
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Default  Posted: 8:10 AM, February 19th (Wednesday)

I don't know how you got so wise so young, but I'm glad you did, and I'm glad you posted and described your process.

I also think I'm glad I didn't walk by you while you were talking to yourself on a park bench.

If you don't mind, I'll think of what you're aiming for as 'mindful happiness' or 'happiness while staying in touch with reality' or something like that. I don't think you're very far away from that. It takes time for the memory of pain to fade. It'll fade anyway over time, and it fades faster if you apply yourself to living in the here and now - as you've been doing.


fBH (me) - 70 (22 in my head), fWW (plainsong) - 65+, Married 45+, together since 1965
DDay - 12/2010
Recovered, not yet fully R'ed
I share my own experience because it's the only experience I know, not because I'm a good model.

Posts: 10073 | Registered: Feb 2011 | From: Chicago area
VD2012
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Member # 36317
Content  Posted: 11:59 AM, February 19th (Wednesday)

Thank you all for the kind words and replies. I appreciate them.

sisoon, yeah, you're right. That's it. I was in a place where my heart and mind where opposed to each other and I couldn't move on. I was dwelling on the memory of pain. My heart and mind are in sync again though. For the first time it seems in years. I know my future will just keep improving.

That said, after much discussion with my wife and coming to learn of some actions and bannings months ago, as well as being personally reprimanded for reaching out to someone lambasting my wife... I think It's time I step away further from SI and focus on my life now. I've loved the support of the members here and the place's very existance but it's also become a very painful reminder of a time in my life I wish to move on away from.

Again, thank you all very much. Members past and present and those who've helped me. Perhaps one day we'll cross paths again.


Me: 28 ~ Her (FR2012): 27
Together: 9 years, 2 children
D-Day: April 19, 2012

Surrender to the truth of life.


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