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plainpain
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Default  Posted: 8:40 PM, May 13th (Tuesday)

It has been a year since the last D-day, two since the first d-Day. Two years of my life I have been thinking about this woman every single day. I don't "blame" her, I hold my WH 100% responsible. But I feel like this person impacted my life and my marriage and I don't know how to have closure on it. She had his baby. We are NC, and she has not tried to change that.

I think about her every day. I creep her FB. I know more about her and her life than my WH ever did. I feel like I actually need to break up with her... how messed up is that? I know, I know, stop creeping her. Stop feeding it. I know. But HOW???

I feel like I have turned OCD over this. I need help. How do I let her go? How do I stop letting her be in my head and my marriage? How do I stop giving power to a ghost? The A wasn't even about her, she wasn't anything at all, so why the fixation?

I honestly feel like if it weren't for the baby factor, I could file her away. But I feel like I have to keep myself prepared so I am not blind-sided again.

I really need help. :(


Me: Believer; 40s
Him: Liar; 40s
Married 19 years
1 year EA/2 month PA/incidental infidelities I can't begin to process
OC born 2014
OW:21
In successful R, but still in just plain pain.

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LosferWords
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Default  Posted: 8:57 PM, May 13th (Tuesday)

I'm so sorry, plainpain.

I can relate in a way, as the OM is the biological father of my son.

I did end up blocking him, his family, and his friends from facebook. He has another couple of web sites he is on because of the band he is in, so I've just mentally made a pact with myself not to look at those sites. Between the blocking and that self-pact, that has helped a bit with the online obsession.

As far as stopping giving her power... one thing I've found helpful is to allow myself to feel the feelings of rage and anger that I feel towards OM. Eventually, just facing those feelings head on, those feelings do start to lose their power. I start to lose interest in those feelings.

I also have made a conscious decision to never forgive him (he was a supposed friend of mine, so this is where that comes in to play). Making that decision has allowed me to let go a bit more.

All of that, and just trying to concentrate on things that are worth my time and mentally energy way more than OM.

Given all of that, I still have my days, and can most definitely relate.

Sending you ((hugs)), peace, and strength.


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Gotmegood
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Default  Posted: 9:03 PM, May 13th (Tuesday)

I really have no idea why I'm responding to you, because I have no concrete answers. I can only say that I get it. I went through that. I did the same thing, to the point that I thought I had a 'problem'. My WH screwed a prostitute. I spent endless hours researching creepy websites. Found her ads. All of them. Found her pictures, read her website, found her 'porn' videos, read her reviews.....over and over and over. It became crazy. And I never, not for a minute, 'blamed' her....I always saw her more as the drug dealer to a habit I didn't know he had. His fault 100%. But it was such a shock. Such an unknown to me, and it took a while. So I guess what I want to say to you is that it's almost gone. I'm almost free. I spend maybe 1 hr a week trolling, looking, creeping. There's no more mystery to me, and perhaps that will happen to you too. It just finally, after over-exposure to this disgusting and debased individual, it doesn't draw me in anymore. There's nothing left to find out. Maybe it will just play itself out with you, as it did with me. I hope so for you.


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Him: WH 64 , prostitute 20 yr old
DDay: 8-13-2013
Status: boinging up and down like a yo-yo

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LoveActually
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Default  Posted: 9:48 PM, May 13th (Tuesday)

((plainpain))

I honestly feel like if it weren't for the baby factor,

I'm five years out, the ow for me; a total stranger he met at a bar had a long distance 12 month EA and was able to sneak away for 3 days of PA. No baby involved in my case, but I obsess like crazy too, yes even after all this time. I think it's about us looking for the "why", why her. What did she have that made him almost throw away everything...why her...why was she worth causing me the greatest hurt in my life and making me carry this burden for the rest of my life. I think I look sometimes searching for the one moment when I will get it...I will see what he saw or get what he got that allowed him to do such a terrible thing. But, five years later and it's still the same..it was never about her--she could have been anyone that night at the vacant bar stool. In your case, you have a something I can't imagine dealing with on top of the carnage. A baby. I can't fathom the pain that goes with that in addition to the already horrific pain of the affair itself. Don't beat yourself up for obsessing...you have so much on your plate. Do either of you have to have any contact at all because of the baby..or is total NC? If you are total NC maybe it's just natural curiosity about that baby and what her life is like now--maybe looking for proof of the misery or mess of a person that she has to be? That's what I think I look for when I'm obsessing--validation--I want and need validation that she truly is as horrible as I think she is--or at least what my mind tells me she is. Just throwing ideas out. Hugs and I'm sorry I know it hurts.

[This message edited by LoveActually at 9:49 PM, May 13th (Tuesday)]


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Married 11 yrs, together 16 yrs

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plainpain
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Default  Posted: 9:52 PM, May 13th (Tuesday)

Did/does your WH know about the obsession? I think that's what I hate mostly - I hide it from him. I steal time from my children for it. I feel like a WS. We have a "no secrets" policy, and I am not honouring it. I have tried to talk to him about it, but I feel like it disgusts him, and I actually feel a great deal of shame over it. He does not want her in our life, our marriage, our future. I say to myself, "Well, you put her there".

I am being selfish. I am giving brain space to her, at the cost of transparency with my WH. I hear myself saying, "Well, I would have told you but I knew you would be mad." Wayward thinking.

Justifying. Blame shifting. Secrecy.

I hate her, I don't want to think about her... but I don't know how to stop. I feel like she must be a witch of some kind.


Me: Believer; 40s
Him: Liar; 40s
Married 19 years
1 year EA/2 month PA/incidental infidelities I can't begin to process
OC born 2014
OW:21
In successful R, but still in just plain pain.

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plainpain
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Default  Posted: 9:59 PM, May 13th (Tuesday)

LoveActually, we have zero contact. We emailed around her due date so we could give her contact info to order paternity test, etc, but received crickets from her. Definitely I want to see that she is miserable. I want to see that her baby is ugly, that she has no friends, that she got some weird flesh eating disease, that she is a bad mother. But I also want to see that the baby is safe, that it is loved, that she has support, that my childrens' sibling is not in a desperate life. It's so mixed and muddled.

I hate that I am looking at OW to find validation. That is too ironic for words.


Me: Believer; 40s
Him: Liar; 40s
Married 19 years
1 year EA/2 month PA/incidental infidelities I can't begin to process
OC born 2014
OW:21
In successful R, but still in just plain pain.

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sunvalley
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Default  Posted: 11:00 PM, May 13th (Tuesday)

I would highly recommend trying EMDR therapy. It helped me immensely in not obsessing about the OW. Still occasionally check up on them, but not like I used to and my views on them now are more realistic and I dont think about them much if at all. It may not work for everyone but it worked for me on this specific issue.

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TheBestMe
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Default  Posted: 6:49 AM, May 14th (Wednesday)

(((((plainpain))))) My arms are hugging you really really tight!!!

I want to see that she is miserable

You all know how much I HATE "it". I came to realize that my obsessive stalking through cyber space was a defense mechanism. It was my way of trying to control the situation. New pictures pictures on social media would let me know if the A was on again. If it had a new man, a terminal illness or was dead, then I was safe. I just wanted to be safe in my M. My recovery began by closing my social network accounts.

But I also want to see that the baby is safe, that it is loved, that she has support, that my childrens' sibling is not in a desperate life
.

Has paternity been established? Are you hoping to see something in the pictures that will establish that this is NOT an OC? Let's hope so.

It's so mixed and muddled
.

Yes it is. In other words "A hot mess".

I hate that I am looking at OW to find validation. That is too ironic for words
.

You seem to be trying to make sense of it all.

BTW, my H, my family and some of my close friends, would have had me committed if they knew all that I had done in order to get intel on "it". It is not necessary for me to share that with my H. I did share it in therapies.

No, I take that back. It knew everything about me and wagged war against me. It launched a nasty campaign against me. I was under attack in a war that I was unaware of.

I honestly feel like if it weren't for the baby factor, I could file her away. But I feel like I have to keep myself prepared so I am not blind-sided again

Healing is a process. When you are strong enough, you will put her in her proper place.


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WH Trying As Best He Can
Married 23 years
Status: Working towards friendship
D Day #1 - 2007 My gut told me
D Day #2 - 2010 His D told me
D Day #3 - 1/11/2013 OW Confirmed
LTA 7 years

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LoveActually
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Default  Posted: 11:48 AM, May 14th (Wednesday)

No my husband doesn't know. Just like you said, I feel a lot of shame connected with the obsession too. Everyone seems to have moved on but me. I have thought about seeking help. I get so angry still that he and his actions put this person in my head for what could be a lifetime. I bring it up from time to time-he is always so sad and apologetic - I know how sorry he is but it still won't erase it from my mind - sucks.


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Married 11 yrs, together 16 yrs

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Default  Posted: 11:55 AM, May 14th (Wednesday)

Is it that you really truly cannot stop or is that you really truly do not want to stop? One usually acts as a veil for the other.

(((plainpain)))


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Default  Posted: 11:57 AM, May 14th (Wednesday)

You don't have to feel shame about this - most of us have been there. I've certainly spent my fair share of time playing PI on the AP, but there wasn't an OC involved here and I can't fathom how that would feel.

The one thing you do have control over is looking her up online. It's addictive for sure.

I think about her every day. I creep her FB.

Here's how the cycle goes: Creep FB. Think about her more. Creep FB more. Think about her EVEN more. Creep FB EVEN more. Think about her ALL the damn time.

The FB has to go. It sounds scary in theory, but once you unplug I promise you will feel some relief right away. Come up with a contingency plan. When you feel like looking her up on FB, go to your room and read a chapter out of your favorite book. Or take a walk. Or a bath. Or go shopping. Do something where that brainspace is dedicated to you and you alone.

It's a long process, but if you force yourself out of it you will find that letting her go will become more and more natural.

((plainpain)))


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plainpain
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Default  Posted: 12:03 PM, May 14th (Wednesday)

I know I need to stop, and I'm not stopping - can't or won't? I can, but I won't. Pain shopping. Knowledge is power. Looking for a shred of hope OC is not my H's. Pick it, it's probably true. I want "closure", but I can't imagine what that would look like. We just moved, you know? We left it all behind. My H doesn't need closure.. he just dropped her like a hot potato. I feel like he had a year to process it before I ever knew about it. I'm playing catch up. It's so gross. I don't know what the pay off is for me - I never feel better after seeing a new pic of her. I just think, wow, she's so NOTHING.


Me: Believer; 40s
Him: Liar; 40s
Married 19 years
1 year EA/2 month PA/incidental infidelities I can't begin to process
OC born 2014
OW:21
In successful R, but still in just plain pain.

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plainpain
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Default  Posted: 12:06 PM, May 14th (Wednesday)

Thanks Jrazz. I know you're right. I'll keep trying.


Me: Believer; 40s
Him: Liar; 40s
Married 19 years
1 year EA/2 month PA/incidental infidelities I can't begin to process
OC born 2014
OW:21
In successful R, but still in just plain pain.

Posts: 807 | Registered: Jul 2013
meplusfour
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Default  Posted: 12:12 PM, May 14th (Wednesday)

((plainpain))

I used to spend hours creeping OW's children's Facebook pages, drive and park by her house. It affected my moods, my mental space and my time with my kids. You have taken the first step in recognizing that it is a problem and have the desire to address it.

Jrazz has great suggestions (as always). Take it one hour, one morning, one afternoon at a time. It takes time to break a habit and this is what it has become. Find other things to fill your mind, something enjoyable and meaningful to you. Read books, start a home renovation project such as painting or gardening~anything that keeps your mind and your hands occupied.

Finally, do you think it is the uncertainty as to whether OC is actually your husband's offspring? Do you have an outlet for these feelings? Would writing letters to the OC help you express your thoughts? Express how you are concerned about his life, your hope that he is cared for. Don't send the letters, but keep them in a box. If you are in IC, this might be worth bringing up.

Sending you grace, dignity and strength.


BW (me)42
WH 44
3 daughters, 1 son
Married 10 years, together 13
DDay 3/14/2013, four year PA
In R
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Default  Posted: 12:16 PM, May 14th (Wednesday)

PlainPain,

I have been guilty of the same thing. In my case, OW was an OEA, a long ago flame that sought out my H via sociall media under the guise of renewing 'friendshiip' but escalated behaviors until my H finally got it through his thick head something was off and stopped responding. He was too polite to block her though, so she continued to fish until I got involved and ran her off with threats and the means to blow up her comfortable life.

He essentiallly forgot about her when he decided to stop responding, but I obsessed about her and cyber~stalked her for quite awhile. And, like you and others have said, I now know WAY more about her than my H ever did. Part of my reasoning was to give me additional ammunition/contacts should she ever break NC. Part of it was trying to understand her motivations, I think. And part of it may have been because she asked nosy questions about me that were none of her business. (Fortunately, I could tell from the correspondence my H dodged the NOYB questions, much to her frustration.)

But I know/knew it wasn't healthy. My IC knew it wasn't healthy. OW is blocked now, but I've been through block/unblock cycles in the past. Good new is the blocked cycles are lasting longer. I really hope for your sake that OW stays in the past and doesn't contact. But I DO understand your obsession, especially with an OC in the mix.


excerpt from an awesome quote "Forgiveness - the finishing of old business that allows us to experience the present, free of contamination from the past."

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Default  Posted: 12:50 PM, May 14th (Wednesday)

(((PP)))

I think a big part of your issue is there is so much unkown. You assume this baby is your spouses, but still have no real closure on it. She has made it obvious that she wants nothing to do with him. I would accept that as he probably isn't the father, after all why wouldn't she want CS? That makes no sense.

I too healed and 5 years out occasionally wonder what has happened to this homewrecking monster that flipped my world upside down. In fact I googled her the other day. Yup. Sure did. I allowed myself to waller in it for a full 15 minutes. Then I put it away.
It's a struggle for me because I never met her, or saw her in real life. Just pictures on my H's computer, and what I find on the internet. She lives in a different city, and she is like the mystical creature to me. Just like a rainbow farting unicorn, I tend to make her more than what she is.

I assume that she has had no major wake up calls, and her life has not changed, and she has probably continued to prey on men that are contemplating divorce as only a divorce attorney could. But I also know that My H chose me, he chose to accept the pain he caused, and he worked his ass off to figure out his why's and to heal himself. 99% of the time that is more than enough for me.

I would suggest that you really start to limit your exposure and head space with her.
Give yourself a reward system, and stick to it. Block her on social media. Don't peak for a day. When you can do that without struggling then build up to two days, then three. And each time you succeed you do something nice for you, and you alone. This is your war to fight. This is your ill to cure. Your rewards should be just for you.

Lastly, there are AD's that help with OCD behaviors, and it may just be part of the chemical changes you have undergone from the stress of your life in the past year that have made you compulsive about this. If so, consider talking to your Dr, or seeing a Psych and discussing trying some meds. It may just be that you need something to reset the chemical clock so to speak.


Me: FBS
Him: FWS
Kids: 15 & 17
Married for 22 years now, was 16 at the time. .
D-Day Sept 26 2008
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Default  Posted: 1:32 PM, May 14th (Wednesday)

Guilty! Yep, me too. I used to much more but it's back again. Not as bad but back. I wish I could just forget him forever. He was my friend. I just want to ask him "WHY?". Knowing that my question would never be satisfied and plus, it's been 1.5yrs since the last broken NC. It would only re-open a scar.

So forever I'm left wondering. Wondering what my wife saw in him. Wondering why he went for it despite. Wondering what the hell they were thinking in their heads because BOTH are married.


BS - Me 43 WS - Her 41
DDAY - June 2012 (found the texts)
DDAY2 - Next Day (found out who) EA
TT- till 9/2012 (some PA)
Married 20yrs. 2kids
Status: in careful R. Sometimes spinning our wheels

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Default  Posted: 1:41 PM, May 14th (Wednesday)

plainpain - I wish I had some advise to help but I don't as I struggle with this too.

I actually find myself jealous that you have a FB to creep over. I have nothing on the OM that my WW had an LTA with - I don't even know what he looks like. But yet I still find myself obsessed.

I think this is somewhat normal for a BS but I don't know what to say to stop it or lesson it.


BS - Me 38
WS - Wife 39
D-Day - Oct 12
Married 10 years
OM1 - 12-year LTA
OM2 - 9 month A turned into open relationship with couple for another 1 1/2 years

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Default  Posted: 2:10 PM, May 14th (Wednesday)

ReunitePangea Geez in your case I'd ask for more info. This guy in your mind could be larger than life itself. You may see that if you do meet him he's less threatening than you thought and my dilute your fixation.

I went to see OM one day (even though I've known him for years). In my mind I had re-created him after the A as the most threatening person in the world. When I saw him, I was amazed of how regular and non-threatening he was. How he was just joe-shmow. Almost stupid that my FWW had an A with him.


BS - Me 43 WS - Her 41
DDAY - June 2012 (found the texts)
DDAY2 - Next Day (found out who) EA
TT- till 9/2012 (some PA)
Married 20yrs. 2kids
Status: in careful R. Sometimes spinning our wheels

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Default  Posted: 2:34 PM, May 14th (Wednesday)

OW was a friend, and I still see her in passing weekly or biweekly. So, it is hard to completely forget about her. Also, she seems determined to foster friendships with mutual friends that she knew only tangentially before. She is an attention-whore, along with the other kind as well.

I have blocked her on fb, and have had strong urges to check lately, as it is affair season, and knowing her, she is not capable of not posting something maudlin or sappy about "love." I have stayed strong -- trying to keep it that way. It is hard though.

I think the thing is, that we think there is some meaning in who they chose, when there really isn't. If you are an alcoholic, it is like the difference between whiskey and scotch -- there are subtle shades of difference, but all the waywards are after is the high. The APs were available, and willing. They were nothing special, except the fact they were broken enough to do it.

[This message edited by bionicgal at 2:36 PM, May 14th (Wednesday)]


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DDay - June 2013, A was 2+ months, EA then PA
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Default  Posted: 3:37 PM, May 14th (Wednesday)

WH still works with OW. I blocked her on my FB but still couldn't stop. I created a FB for my 2 yr old DS and used that to creep her page. Like you nothing I saw ever made me feel better. Ever. If anything I usually felt worse. I still have a really hard time with this. I blocked her on that page and deactivated it but it's way to easy to reactivate and unblock.

Today I told WH I'm not even sure the hate I feel is for her but really for what she represents. I could see in two seconds that if they were to be together irl they would be miserable. Why couldn't he see that?? Why did he think it was love?? I also can't help wondering if she and the things they did are what he really wants. She could not be more different than me personality wise. I truly feel like I don't know the man who did this. He was definitely not the man I thought he was and I'm having a hard time accepting that.
Like another poster said maybe I'm hoping one day I'll just understand.
Sorry for the rambling, I wish I had some advice, but I can relate.


Me-BS Him-WH DS 5/12
T-13 M-9
DDay 5/26/13, TT through 8/13
2.5 yr EA w/co-worker, PA 12/12 to 4/13.
Hopeful for R

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plainpain
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Default  Posted: 6:41 PM, May 14th (Wednesday)

I think at this point it feels like a gambler feels after they have lost everything they won at the table. You keep playing, keep checking, hoping maybe THIS time you'll win. I really like the idea of writing a letter(s) to the OC/OW. Not to be sent, of COURSE - strictly for cathartic purposes. Maybe I need to just articulate it once and for all, and then lay it to rest.

I am not convinced she won't want CS at some point. She is a drug dealer on welfare. She has a thing for sugar daddy's. She has an income of sorts, I suppose. I think what she's concerned about is the possibility of sharing custody. We made it clear we weren't walking away - if the child is his, we want to have access. But at this point, we don't really see reason to fight her for a paternity test. If it comes to that, we'll deal with it. But it is a big unknown still hanging out there.

I am so sorry for all the pain here. One thing I am so glad of through all of this - I have become so much wiser and empathetic IRL. Here, I'm still on the needy side if things. :) Thank you for all the truth, compassion and encouragement.


Me: Believer; 40s
Him: Liar; 40s
Married 19 years
1 year EA/2 month PA/incidental infidelities I can't begin to process
OC born 2014
OW:21
In successful R, but still in just plain pain.

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Want2help
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Default  Posted: 10:37 PM, May 14th (Wednesday)

She is a drug dealer on welfare.

plainpain,

It's different from state to state, but in my state, in order to be eligible for ANY government assistance, you have to name a potential father for your child so that the state can sue for child support.

If paternity has not been established and the father fights the suit, the state will order testing to be done.

My cousin had a "surprise baby" (she somehow did not know on a conscious level that she was pregnant until she was admitted to the emergency room with cramps that turned out to be labor pains, but this story isn't about that). She genuinely did not know who the child's father was. The state denied her benefits (food assistance and medical benefits) until she supplied a name. She did, the guy was tested, and it was not his. Only then did the state accept that she truly does not know who the father of this child is, considering the circumstances.

Other women I have known had to supply the name of the "potential father" for any assistance, whether they had anything to do with the man or not.


As far as Facebook goes, I wish I had some words of advice. I had gotten pretty good at not looking, but now that OC is being adopted I maintain a separate Facebook just for correspondence with OW. I still creep. Almost daily. I am also struggling to quit.


BS- me.
FWS- him.
DDay 6/07 (immediately separated)
RDay 8/07
OC born 3/08
OC Adopted 2014

Reconciled


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blakesteele
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Default  Posted: 8:13 AM, May 15th (Thursday)

(((plainpain)))

I am sorry for the pain and struggle you are experiencing. I experienced obsessive tendencies too.

Adultery to a BS's is traumatic. PTSD and PTSD-like symptoms are a very real thing. I was tested for PTSD but only had PTSD-like symptoms....obsessive thoughts are one of them.

You keep replaying the event in an attempt to process through it...but you can get stuck there for a bit. Are you in IC? If not, I would strongly recommend this.

Do you have RL female friends? It also helps me to fellowship with male friends about what I am feeling. None of my friends, thankfully, have experienced adultery in their M...but just expressing my feelings helps take some of the power away from them.

Feelings are indicators....not dictators. Don't treat them as such. WS's did....and you know the results of that decision.

I have tried to talk to him about it, but I feel like it disgusts him, and I actually feel a great deal of shame over it. He does not want her in our life, our marriage, our future. I say to myself, "Well, you put her there".


Couple things here....

first, I did this. I felt like I was putting my wife in "undo" pain by bringing up her affair. Codependency sucks...and that is why I initially refrained from talking with my wife about her A. VERY UNHEALTHY. Codependent No More....was a book that helped me understand myself. Once I did I used the techniques in the book to break myself of that cycle.

Second, shame is someone elses sin pushed over/thrust onto you. I get it....as a "man" I felt shame my wife sought out another bull to satisify her. Shame of that plus my codependent tendencies very easily allowed me to accept more pain after each of my DD's. Shame will fade....but it fades faster when you expose the sin that has occurred. Not talking about facebooking "My husband is an ass and f'ed so and so".....am talking about leaning on a select group of people who are relationship friendly. Shame LOVES the dark....put some light on it and watch it shrivel and die.

Third, I pray your husband will find a copy and read How To Help Your Spouse Heal From Your Affair. I pray he finds the courage to finish his statement with "don't want her in our M.....I am sorry I chose adultery and invited her in in the first place. I will spend the rest of my life making this up to you."

Tips to do;

--focus on the present. A is no longer being chosen by your husband.
--realize your husbands affair did not kill you. Abandonment fears have been a part of me since age 12. Adultery is among the strongest abandonment a person can chose....and I SURVIVED it!!! This is "worst case scenario"....and I made it through it!!!
--appreciate your growth...such as the empathy you mentioned you now have for others. There are parts of you that are being awakened that you never knew you had.
--reach out.....in prayer, reading, RL fellowship, posting on SI. This is too big for any one person to handle. You may have, like I have, spent a lifetime of doing it alone. Take a chance and reach out!
--make it a goal to become better not bitter.
--Healing is a Choice. Steve Arterburn. Get it and read it. It will empower you by bringing truth to the choices you have. Your pain will temporarily blind you to the many choices you have.


I will say a specific prayer for you now and will add you to my SI specific prayer list.

22 months out....past the obsessive thinking phase. But I still remember how aggressively I engaged the fAP. Like another poster mentioned....my mind built him up to "something special". The night I met him on his front porch I found a very different creature. I found a double-chinned, pudgy, terrified man.

Once I saw him in the true light he belonged in, my pain level stayed the same but morphed. I NOW had the thought "THIS is what my wife chose over me?!?! What she endangered my health (unprotected sex) over?

That lead me to the next phase.....turning my attention away from the AP and back to where it belonged....on my wife. She chose to adultery....she was not raped. She sought and harvested that which she desired. Through this process I took "me" out of her affair equation. Her affair, like all affairs, are singularly selfish actions. AP matter not, spouses, children, health rish....nothing deters a person set on adultery. It really is just about them.

Then that led me to the next phase.....

.....not all linear actually......edges of each phase blurr into the next.

This is a process.

You are normal.

This is serious trauma.

Keep posting.

We have your back.

God is with us all.


ME: 42 BH, I don't PM female members
SHE: 38 EA
Married: 15 years
Together: 17 years
D/Day 9-10-12
NC: 10-25-12
NC: Broken early November 2012, OM not respond
2 girls; 7 and 10
Fear is payments on debts you have not

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tushnurse
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Default  Posted: 12:12 PM, May 15th (Thursday)

PP I am all for writing her. I did this multiple times. I would get all my icky, angry, mean, thoughts and feelings out, then I would burn the paper, and allow the negativity to go up in smoke.

Sometimes they would consist only of methods that I wish she would die, others would be exacting how Karma had told me she was gonna Fuck her over, and telling her to hang on tight, cause the storm was coming. Others were really sadness, and pity for her F'd up life, actions, and beliefs. Begging her to never breed, because she could NEVER love a child the way you have to as a parent.

Some were very eloquent, and others just spewing the hatred.

I found this very cathartic. Destroying the negativity allowed me to heal.

So write away....


Me: FBS
Him: FWS
Kids: 15 & 17
Married for 22 years now, was 16 at the time. .
D-Day Sept 26 2008
Fully R'd, and Happy Happy Happy

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