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Brandon808
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Default  Posted: 8:25 AM, July 9th (Wednesday)

I came across a used car for sale. It seems to be in solid shape. 2005 Jaguar XKR with 62K miles. Can anyone tell me anything about them? Maintenance issues, etc.?


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Default  Posted: 8:36 AM, July 9th (Wednesday)

http://www.edmunds.com/jaguar/xk-series/2005/consumer-reviews.html

http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/Reliability.aspx?year=2005&make=Jaguar&model=XK%20Series

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Brandon808
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Default  Posted: 8:46 AM, July 9th (Wednesday)

Thanks TR!
Yes, I don''t have details but I did hear indirectly that Jags got much better after Ford acquired the company.

They''re asking price is a little high to me though ($18,900) especially since it needs new tires, but they said they''d listen to any offers. It drove very nicely.


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Default  Posted: 9:10 AM, July 9th (Wednesday)

*poof* the huge Baby Jaguar pic.

Oops, sorry, wrong jaguar.

(ETA - sorry about the size of the pic - I was trying to be obnoxious but not THAT obnoxious. I don't know how to resize it).

[This message edited by JanaGreen at 9:48 AM, July 9th (Wednesday)]


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Brandon808
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Default  Posted: 9:24 AM, July 9th (Wednesday)


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Default  Posted: 9:45 AM, July 9th (Wednesday)

Lucas "Prince of Darkness" electrical system.
( http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2009-jaguar-xf-supercharged-road-test-review )

It's good they look pretty, since you spend so much time outside them while they're being fixed...
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That's the reputation of Jaguar. It's been a long time since I looked, though.


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Default  Posted: 9:47 AM, July 9th (Wednesday)

Call around and get prices on normal maintenance items. Over $1,000 for brakes isn't uncommon.

Remember, these were engineered as expensive cars. They have expensive parts and take expensive labor. Even though they're asking about a quarter of what it costs new, fixing it doesn't get cheaper.

As long as you can afford to fix it when it breaks, or just needs brakes, go for it


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Default  Posted: 9:48 AM, July 9th (Wednesday)

I'm with TrustedHer.

My Dad and stepmom have owned a couple and my dad says never again. They are very problematic and expensive to fix.


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Default  Posted: 9:49 AM, July 9th (Wednesday)

Oh, and check out the maintenance intervals on the supercharger. Those can't be neglected either


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Brandon808
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Default  Posted: 9:54 AM, July 9th (Wednesday)

Thanks everyone. Although I could afford the cost of the maintenance I don''t want the headache so I think I''ll pass on this one.


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Default  Posted: 10:51 AM, July 9th (Wednesday)

**sigh**

It looks so pretty though!

Here's hoping you find another beauty to replace it.


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Default  Posted: 10:53 AM, July 9th (Wednesday)

It does, doesn''t it norabird?
The picture doesn''t really do it justice either.


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Default  Posted: 11:03 AM, July 9th (Wednesday)

Here's how to handle this opportunity that you'd love to take advantage of - go here to see photos of the E-type Jag: https://www.google.com/search?q=e-type+jaguar&num=100&rls=com.microsoft:en-US:IE-Address&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=eWe9U8jLG4iRyAT68oHwBw&ved=0CCgQ7Ak&biw=1218&bih=691

You'll see the later jags are real downgrades, at least in appearance....


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Default  Posted: 11:07 AM, July 9th (Wednesday)

Have you seen the new Jaguar F-Type? Awesome. My new dream car.


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Default  Posted: 11:14 AM, July 9th (Wednesday)

I love jags- years ago I had an old x-type and loved it and just recently my brother got an XF...

The F-Type is also a dream car of mine.

With my old X-Type I never really had any reliability issues- I only sold it because of the tax/fuel costs.


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Brandon808
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Default  Posted: 11:56 AM, July 9th (Wednesday)

Have you seen the new Jaguar F-Type?

Just pictures online. It does look awesome.


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Default  Posted: 12:18 PM, July 9th (Wednesday)

The F-Type is also a dream car of mine.

With my old X-Type I never really had any reliability issues- I only sold it because of the tax/fuel costs.

All problems fixed, just get an FXX


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Default  Posted: 12:28 PM, July 9th (Wednesday)

Older models were a nightmare in our northern climate. I hear they have come a long way, though.


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Brandon808
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Default  Posted: 12:55 PM, July 9th (Wednesday)

All problems fixed, just get an FXX
Oh sure, I''ll just pop right down to the lot and pick one up.


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Jeaniegirl
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Default  Posted: 3:24 PM, July 9th (Wednesday)

Brandon, Jaguars are my heart :) I absolutely love them and I'm on my third. They are the most dependable cars I have ever owned and are good for 300,000+ miles if maintained properly. I have owned mainly XJ Jags but I now have a XK8 convertible. They drive like a dream.

One thing you definitely need to do if you buy this car is find a Jaguar mechanic and take it there for oil changes, etc. It's always best to find a certified Jag mechanic NOT with any dealership but one who has their own garage. You will save tons of money on any future work you might have to have done. I am currently looking at a XKR convertible to buy as I really love their body styles.

Go for it. 62,000 miles is NOTHING for a Jag. Also check to see if it has all maintenance records as that is a big help.


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Default  Posted: 3:29 PM, July 9th (Wednesday)

Okay, have to ask. Is that a RED XK8 sitting next to the car you are looking at?? If so, they are RARE.

I would also add that if you buy a Jag OR Mercedes (I have both), educate yourself because so many things you CAN fix yourself instead of paying someone else. You can also order any needed parts for repairs ONLINE at about 60% cheaper than any mechanic will charge you.

Heck, I'm a GIRL and I fix things on my cars. I just changed out an air flow censor on my Mercedes and it didn't even require any tools to change! Dealership would have charged me lots of bucks to do that.


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Default  Posted: 3:30 PM, July 9th (Wednesday)

Ford doesn't own Jaguar any more. Sold,to an Indian concern if I correctly recall. Stil made in the UK.

Ever hear the old,saying if it has , um,er chest protuberances or,tires sooner or later it will cause you trouble? Everybody live know who,has owned a Jag has paid big repair bills. Ditto,for,Audi, Mercedes, BMW. They're just designed that way.

Think,about a Lexus if you want style, comfort and prestige. My wife's volvo is now 8 years old and other than an appetite for brake pads it's been a good car.


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Jeaniegirl
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Default  Posted: 3:32 PM, July 9th (Wednesday)

Perhaps my experience with Jags is different than some posting here but a nice Jag with only 62K miles is like a new car. I'm a woman who takes long road trips and I always trust my Jags to get me there and back. I wouldn't do that with an American made vehicle.


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Default  Posted: 3:41 PM, July 9th (Wednesday)

Okay, have to ask. Is that a RED XK8 sitting next to the car you are looking at??
No, actually it''s a convertible Mustang.

I talked to a shop that specializes in European cars. The mechanic was very nice, said he''d be glad to look it over so I may take him up on that.


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Default  Posted: 3:54 PM, July 9th (Wednesday)

Brandon, thanks for responding. I have a red 1999 XK8 Jag convertible, very classic. I was told only 300 were manufactured in that color. So I got excited when I saw the RED.


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Default  Posted: 4:01 PM, July 9th (Wednesday)

No problem Jeaniegirl.

I was about ready to give up on this but I think I''ll see what the mechanic has to say about it.


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Default  Posted: 4:07 PM, July 9th (Wednesday)

I hope you do! And the mechanic will be truthful with you, I'm sure. I have bought all my Jags from one dealership so I haven't had any issues. After warranty ran out, I would then switch to the certified Jaguar mechanic with his own shop.

The '99 XK8 was a one-owner when I bought it and had 29,000 miles on it. I purchased it in 2004 and I have only had to replace the battery, the serpentine hose and buy a new set of tires. The correct tires are so important on Jags so don't go for 'cheap' on tires if you buy this beautiful car.

Edited to add the '99 XK8 has close to 200,000 miles and still purrrrrs like the Kitten she is.

[This message edited by Jeaniegirl at 4:09 PM, July 9th (Wednesday)]


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Default  Posted: 7:07 PM, July 9th (Wednesday)

Brandon, I'm curious to see what he says about the front suspension. It could just be the picture, but it looks like the car was either lowered and them not aligned, or it might have a broken spring. It might also be the picture, but something looks off there


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Brandon808
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Default  Posted: 8:40 PM, July 9th (Wednesday)

Thanks WH5!
I will definitely ask about that.


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Default  Posted: 1:27 PM, July 10th (Thursday)

Absolutely beautiful.

My daughter would be insanely jealous. She is 5 and is already a huge Jag fan, she has a coronary every time she spots one on the street. She wants to know why her parents drive a Volvo wagon and not a Jaguar.

ETA: we've had several vintage BMWs. They always needed something (electrical work, coolant issues, on and on), but my husband, who is not a mechanic, was always able to do the work himself with part bought online.

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Default  Posted: 2:57 PM, July 10th (Thursday)

One more thing that's very important. Service records versus required maintenance. If service has been neglected, you WILL have trouble down the road, hopefully not too far from home.

Things like transmission fluid, coolant, rear differential fluid, timing belt, fuel filters, power steering fluid change are not cheap so sometimes owners put off this necessary maintenance. Failure of any of these components is catastrophic.

So, if there are no maintenance records, assume its never been done and find out prices for such and factor those into your purchase offer. For the items I mentioned, I'm talking 2000 to 2500 dollars.

BTW, 2005 was long before Jag improved its reliability reputation.
Don't confuse durability with reliability. Indy race cars are highly reliable, but don't last much more than the length of the Indy 500 without a major rebuild. Get the idea?


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Default  Posted: 5:42 PM, July 10th (Thursday)

I almost got run off the road in my Jeep by a brand new F-Type going about 100 miles per hour on a busy city street yesterday afternoon. It was an honor.

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Default  Posted: 7:58 PM, July 10th (Thursday)

Thanks Schadenfreude. I''ll see what they have on hand.

I''m going to try to get it checked by a mechanic tomorrow.
I''m hoping he says it''s good to go or at that it at least doesn''t need anything major.

I almost got run off the road in my Jeep by a brand new F-Type going about 100 miles per hour on a busy city street yesterday afternoon. It was an honor.
So if I cut somebody off in traffic they should be thanking me, huh?


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Default  Posted: 9:57 AM, July 11th (Friday)

Just be wary of older expensive cars, even with only 60K miles on them. It's not just the mileage, it's the age. I'm glad you're taking it to a mechanic.

I'm a car girl, and I used to LOVE the older, rarer S and RS line Audis (before they became ubiquitous). After pouring $$$$ into low mileage but older models, I finally decided enough was enough. I now only own newer Audis/MBs/etc under warranty

Good luck if you decide to get it though- it is fun, even if it burns holes in your pockets.

[This message edited by hill at 9:58 AM, July 11th (Friday)]


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Default  Posted: 3:38 PM, July 11th (Friday)

UPDATE

Not going to get that Jaguar. By the way I want to thank WH5. I paid more attention to the suspension. It scraped again when I pulled into the mechanic''s parking lot and we''re not even talking a steep grade at all. The alignment was off and the driver side of the hood, door and trunk didn''t feel right. Just don''t want to take the risk.

Oh well.


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Default  Posted: 10:11 PM, July 12th (Saturday)

Wow, Wifehad5. Just from a photo.

I am in awe.

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