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 FeelingSoMuch (original poster member #38814) posted at 6:43 PM on Wednesday, May 8th, 2013

As I look back at the 12 years we spent together before my WW's affair, I feel that she started out codependent on me and somewhere along the way we switched places.

She had a long A and brought the OM to our home. She now says she wants R.

I'm asking myself why I'm still here.

Is it because I love her? Or am I codependent?

Has anyone else struggled with that?

Me: BH
Her: WW
Together since 2001. Married since 2007. Found out about her affairs in 2013. Now separated, waiting for divorce paperwork and in a wonderful new relationship. Life is good again.

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MovingUpward ( member #14866) posted at 8:44 PM on Wednesday, May 8th, 2013

There have been many that have struggled with co-dependency. You might want to check out the co-dependency support thread at

http://www.survivinginfidelity.com/forums.asp?tid=296628

and maybe you might find some advice in there to get you started.

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 FeelingSoMuch (original poster member #38814) posted at 9:32 PM on Wednesday, May 8th, 2013

thank you.

Me: BH
Her: WW
Together since 2001. Married since 2007. Found out about her affairs in 2013. Now separated, waiting for divorce paperwork and in a wonderful new relationship. Life is good again.

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sisoon ( Moderator #31240) posted at 9:41 PM on Wednesday, May 8th, 2013

I think it's very healthy for you to be asking this question. Many people go into R blindly without considering options and motivations, and that sometimes leads to unnecessary pain.

Alas, you're the only one here who knows the answer - but you can't get an answer unless you ask the question.

fBH (me) - on d-day: 66, Married 43, together 45, same sex ap
d-day - 12/22/2010 Recover'd and R'ed
You don't have to like your boundaries. You just have to set and enforce them.

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Theradin ( member #38518) posted at 10:02 PM on Wednesday, May 8th, 2013

Codependency is huge in this community (BS & WS alike). My WW is just coming to terms with learning and accepting her lifelong codependency. Through her IC, she has gained a LOT of insight into her own issues, many of which propelled her to engage in lifelong A-like behavior and other destructive behaviors.

Just recently, my IC has suggested I read up on codependency because she believes I may have codependent coping mechanisms, etc. I'm going to start reading up on it as soon as my WW finishes the book first..! :)

Although I have considerably more DDays than you, I feel our situations are somewhat similar. My WW had a LTA (EA/PA) that has been off and on since 2006 (six months after we got married). Of course, I didn't find out about it until the last half of last year (2012). She didn't disclose it, and didn't end it on her own. I found out about it, and after months and months of repeated lies (first he was "just a friend", then he was an "emotional attraction", then it was an "emotional affair", then finally she revealed that it was a full-blown LTA EA/PA), I finally started my own investigation to blow the cover right off of it. Once she knew I was hot on her trail, she made a bee-line toward disclosing the full A. And I had to literally give her an ultimatum (either you quite fucking around on me and our family, or you can leave - I won't be with you any longer if you continue to attempt to destroy our family and emotionally abuse and betray me). It was only then that she 'decided' that she was done with the A. This was a few months ago, but we still had TTing going on up until 1 month ago.

Another similarity is that my WW had sex with her AP in random hotels, his house, other people's couches, etc. But never in our house (though she toyed with the idea of bringing him to our family home, to fuck and sleep in our marriage bed, for a few days while I was on work travel - but she never went through with the actual planning and executing of it).

But here's the thing that I take from this. Back when she first slept around on me (2006, 6 months into our marriage) we did not have children, and were relatively VERY young into our marriage. Had I caught her then or had she disclosed the A, I would have divorced her so fast it wouldn't have even been funny. The reason being: I didn't know the "real her". She was living a total lie - our marriage was a sham! And we didn't have children. Not a lot of incentive to stay in something like that when you could, instead, just write off the 6-month marriage as a bad life lesson. But now that we're so much further into our M, have children, and she is working to correct a lot of her issues that led to those behaviors (note: I'm working to identify and resolve my issues that also contributed to our marital problems), I am no longer contemplating ending the marriage. But the only way I could sit with my decision to stay in the marriage after almost 8 years of affairs and affair-like behavior is to draw strict bottom lines and firm boundaries. If she engages in any affairs or affair-like behavior, it is over. Immediately. No questions. No discussion. Having that "insurance" has allowed me to see things differently and stay in our M to work through R. That way, I will never have to go through the hell of trying to recover from another A. I cannot control if she'll have another A, nor can I control if ANYONE has an A (say we split up and I hook up with another woman, who's to say she won't have an A?). What I can control is going through R, and all the pain and hard work it takes to do it. I refuse to go through R again. It's hard enough the first time, and I'm just starting out in it.

Maybe you could think of it that way - by drawing a nonnegotiable bottom line and strong boundaries with yourself for her? She "says" she wants R, but it's pretty easy to mutter those words. Is she backing it up by NC with her AP? Contacting him with you present to demand NC and set the record straight on why she is ending it with him and staying with you? Is she going to IC? Are you going to go to MC with her? Sorry, lots of questions, but it can better help frame how sincere she is to R, and if you are even willing to put up with it, with her, if you choose to go down that road.

Best of luck to you, whichever choice you make. In the end, I can assure you, you'll come out MUCH better than you are now, and can live with a clean conscience. Whatever you do, don't compromise your integrity by engaging in anything that would jeopardize your morals or marriage. You may feel like it at times, but that brings you to her level, and will NOT make you feel good about yourself, ever.

BH (me): 35
WW: 34
1 kid (7 y/o)
multiple affairs spanning our entire 11-year marriage
multiple d-days over the last 3 years (most recently: 1/3/2016)
divorced and finally released from this prison: 2/26/2016

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DixieD ( member #33457) posted at 10:36 PM on Wednesday, May 8th, 2013

FeelingSoMuch, Co-Dependent No More by Melanie Beattie is a very good book on the subject. There are different patterns in co-dependency, so people don't all behave the same, other than being equally unhealthy.

It's not unusual to pass the co-dependent ball back and forth in a relationship, or for one partner to be co-dependency and the other to be counter-codependency and then switch.

Breaking free of codependent behavior is not easy but none of this stuff is easy. It's good you are looking into every avenue of help for healing.

[This message edited by DixieDevastated at 5:00 PM, May 8th (Wednesday)]

Growing forward

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LosferWords ( member #30369) posted at 10:42 PM on Wednesday, May 8th, 2013

The fact that you are still there doesn't necessarily mean that you are codependent. It could be that you love your wife and want to stay married to her. That being said, I think the fact that you are wondering if you are codependent could be an indicator of it being a possibility.

I would second the recommendation for Codependent No More. That was a very enlightening read for me, and helped me identify my own codependent traits for what they were. IC was a big help as well. Are you in IC?

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 FeelingSoMuch (original poster member #38814) posted at 11:22 PM on Wednesday, May 8th, 2013

We are both in IC, once a week, in addition to a weekly session together.

It's costing quite a bit, but it's been helpful.

Thank you for the book recommendation, I plan to pick it up.

Part of my struggle is that I never thought that my wife would cheat or that I would stay with a cheater.

It would've been much easier if it had been a one-night stand "mistake." A LTA without boundaries -- our home -- is killing me.

Is she remorseful? She says she is. I say she's on her way to being remorseful, but she's not there yet.

She tells me there's NC, but they work together. That makes me feel unsafe, but the therapist says with time, she'll cringe at the sight of the OM.

Having said all that, I have what it takes to move on, except the desire to move on. It's hard for me to imagine life without my WW. I saw her as my best friend and I don't have family around me. Lots of friends, though.

I'm looking forward to reading that book. Thank you.

Me: BH
Her: WW
Together since 2001. Married since 2007. Found out about her affairs in 2013. Now separated, waiting for divorce paperwork and in a wonderful new relationship. Life is good again.

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PointMan ( member #38577) posted at 12:32 AM on Thursday, May 9th, 2013

One of the best things I've found since dday is Melody beatties book "Codependency no more". Whenever I get anxious I read chapter 7 and immediately feel much better. We truly have not control over what our WS's will do. All we have control of is ourself.

After reading this book I shut of the keylogger on her computer, quit checking her phone records daily, and quit checking the texts on her phone. I have been much better off. I no longer obsess over her because I know that I am in control of my life. I have choices.

I'd like to stay M but if she steps out again I will be strong enough and confident enough to kick her sorry ass out the door.

I deserve better.

DDay: 1/16/13
ME: 49
WW: 43
2 boys: 9 and 13
Trying to R.
Married 15 years.
"keeping the faith"

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